Man….. this episode was top notch. Songs, Stephen being cute, a tie-in from the last plot episode, strange reveals.. and managed to freak me out in 3-4 seconds with the creepy music at the end.
Steven Universe
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I just rewatched Warp Tour and Peridot mentioned reactivating Kindergarten. Looks like a storm's a-brewin…
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I kind of wonder if there are more Gems stationed on Earth with the same intents and purposes of the main cast. The sheer scale of these enemies makes it harder for me to believe that it was only just Rose and the trio(or four… if the theory that Garnet is two bodies/gems in one is to be believed). Unless Rose was really that powerful to fend them off...
Can't wait for a possible flashback episode that shows what happened in full detail.
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I kind of wonder if there are more Gems stationed on Earth with the same intents and purposes of the main cast. The sheer scale of these enemies makes it harder for me to believe that it was only just Rose and the trio(or four… if the theory that Garnet is two bodies/gems in one is to be believed). Unless Rose was really that powerful to fend them off…
Can't wait for a possible flashback episode that shows what happened in full detail.I kind of expect this.
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Well, considering…
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I think it's fair to say that Rose played an important role.
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That was a pretty great ep. Its episodes like that that make me feel like this show has got it more thought out and put together in advance than Adventure Time does.
Yes, Adventure Time obviously has something of a loose timeline and overall plan, (mostly regarding things like the Lich, Ice King, and Marceline, and even then only vaugley in broad strokes, or a veeery loose season arc) but for the most part feels like its mostly making things up as it goes along, or deciding what to do next with a character only after their previous one is done.
Here, it feels like they have more or less the entire backstory thought out, maybe even wrote the inevitable flashback/season finale first, (or at least heavily outlined in the series bible) and are very carefully doling out little bits of information one throwaway line at a time, consistently in almost every episode now, and it keeps coming together cohesively more and more bit by bit.
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I kind of expect this.
It always seemed to me like a big part of the Gems dedication to Steven was out of respect for Rose, and also because they need her powers to fight, which can only happen through Steven.Well she did have that huge cannon thing.
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And plant warriors
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With each episode, my love for Garnet and the other gems including Steven is growing more and more. Seriously, this little silly cartoon makes me teary eyed in the most unexpected moments.
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I swear, this show never ceases to be adorable. I am unabashedly in love with Steven and Connie's relationship.
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I hope it stays adorable.
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As cool as the idea of an overarching plotline in this show is, I don't know that full-on dramatic is the way to go. SU's track record with serious stories is a bit spotty, especially the ones involving the Gems. "So Many Birthdays" was incredible for showing the Gems in legitimate, well-acted distress, but then you got episodes like "Coach Steven" and "On the Run," where things felt more than a bit hammy.
Comedy fits the 10-minute format much better than drama, which means we'll be seeing many more 2-parters if they hope to get any mileage out of these recent developments. At the same time, devoting more than 4 episodes to serious business feels like it would be playing against the show's strengths.
I also think that we need to see the Gems step out of the parental role a bit more often, especially Pearl. I like her overall, but the writers have played her as an overbearing heel so many times that I'm getting a bit tired of her.
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I think that's part of Pearl's charm. She very logical. Dangerously so when it goes a bit out of control. Her problem is she's really unintentionally insensitive, and I'm curious to see how the show deals with that. Honestly I'd want to see it develop without really changing the fact that she can be insensivite. That would be too easy.
Also, the cute laid back episodes is tbh my favorite episodes. The more serious ones are fine too, but I feel they won't have much rewatch value once the stories foreshadowed are actually shown more clearly in future episodes. That's my opinion anyway since I was kinda dying for cartoons that felt like a slice of life meets a magic girl fantasy.
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Heard this song again while shopping the other day and was so happy :) so many memories of replaying this song in college.
Went to look it up on youtube and then I hear Estelle is the voice of Garnet? Dayum! Apparently there's going to be a song for Garnet sometime in the series :D
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As cool as the idea of an overarching plotline in this show is, I don't know that full-on dramatic is the way to go. SU's track record with serious stories is a bit spotty, especially the ones involving the Gems. "So Many Birthdays" was incredible for showing the Gems in legitimate, well-acted distress, but then you got episodes like "Coach Steven" and "On the Run," where things felt more than a bit hammy.
Comedy fits the 10-minute format much better than drama, which means we'll be seeing many more 2-parters if they hope to get any mileage out of these recent developments. At the same time, devoting more than 4 episodes to serious business feels like it would be playing against the show's strengths.
I really like the dramatic bits of Steven Universe, which get carried on the strength of the characters. They're so good and multidimensional that I jump at any time the show decides to explore them. Plus, the action sequences are fantastic.
The show's comedy blood is an important part of its character, but I can't agree that it's the dominant one. Rather, I think they're complimentary. I had trouble getting into the show when it was just levity, but the contrast between the simpler episodes and the more serious ones brings out the best in both. Some of the most effective episodes have elements of each within them. The show is defined by both since, at its heart, it's the story of superchild too innocent to really understand the gravity of his role.
I also think that we need to see the Gems step out of the parental role a bit more often, especially Pearl. I like her overall, but the writers have played her as an overbearing heel so many times that I'm getting a bit tired of her.
But that's part of the gems, too. The show is just as much about them constantly trying to adapt to their roles as parents as it is about Steven growing into his as a half-gem warrior. They aren't meant to be parents and aren't even that good at it, but they have to be. The Test put it into perspective, but that's the way it's always been and their strange relationship with Steven is one of the show's big draws. It's a really good take on parenting, which for a lot of people is a very strange role that they've suddenly been forced into.
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I don't think anyone is saying it should go into grim dark super serious mode all the time… but having it here and there with ongoing story is good and interesting and provides a balance. As JUST a comedy it falls short, and as JUST story it'd be missing the quieter moments. The balance is nice and key, and the slow methodical unveiling of backstory (sometimes in innocent sounding one liners way in advance) is pretty great.
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Heard this song again while shopping the other day and was so happy :) so many memories of replaying this song in college.
Went to look it up on youtube and then I hear Estelle is the voice of Garnet? Dayum! Apparently there's going to be a song for Garnet sometime in the series :D
THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING (well, not really but i love this song and now i'm excited)!!!
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I think SU could easily pull off a more serious storyline, but theres something kind of off about the pacing of the show that just isn't making it click quite as cleanly as Adventure Time did. Like it's not even with episodes, but on a microscopic kind of scale. Like AT had no problem just showing the characters relaxing or goofing off, but it could switch intensities and become quite tense and interesting quite quick (for some reason Sons of Mars comes to mind, especially at the beginning). SU has a more difficult time kicking the intensity up, even if the characters are doing actions things, it still feels a tad sluggish. That said, I really feel like they have nailed it in the past with non-story eps (Too Many Bdays was great, and especially the episode where Pearl fights her clone).
It's not that I'm not digging the serious story here (I am very much so) but it still feels like the show and the story team have t quite yet solidified when it comes to timing. Which is ok with me because AT didn't even get good till season 3, and SU still has a way to go before that but also a really great foundation to build on. I'm really excited to see where they take the show.
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What little I've seen of this show: It pulls off its serious moments so well. The most recent episode I saw was that one with the healing fountain and Steven needing to cry healing tears. That entire scene with Steven fronting the statue of his mother. Man…
I wish they could get this show on Netflix, cause I would watch every episode.
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THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING (well, not really but i love this song and now i'm excited)!!!
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That's exactly how I felt xD
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I wish they could get this show on Netflix, cause I would watch every episode.
http://www.watchcartoononline.com/anime/steven-universe
http://animeflavor.com/cartoon/steven-universeIts how me and Captain Usopp have been watching it, since our work schedules pretty much don't let us catch it on actual airing.
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Sweet! Thank you. I'd love to catch up on this show.
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yay. share the love. XD
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It has been. Dubbed-scene gets it up first, in my experience, though the sound quality of their first upload is generally lower. They had it around 7PM, though.
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Yes it is.
Man, that's some heavy stuff they're dealing with in this one.
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Gee, Amethyst just keeps having more and more personal problems.
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Amethyst is definitely the gem with the most emotional baggage. At least at this point in the story.
! I let out an audible gasp when she shape-shifted into Rose.
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Well, I'm a child. I laughed a lil at;
"It's cool man, I've seen your junk before."
Lot's of good adult jokes in this one.
EDIT: Posting as a I watch.
Steven Universe is such a matured show, its insane. I love the fact it nevers feels like it needs to pander to the kids and keeps making these complex but entertaining stories.
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By the end of the episode I was left wondering how much of a joke that line was.
I'm really impressed with how maturely Steven handled the very awkward situation
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I'm pretty sure Amethyst and Greg hooked up after Rose was gone. They both used each other to fill in a hole that was created with Rose leaving.
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Yeah, that seems to be the implication and that's… kinda weird.
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It seemed based on dialogue that Greg and Amethyst were a thing til I guess Greg fell in love with RoseQuartz.
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No I don't think that's it, if you listen to her outburst again, it seems more like she was jealous of Greg when Rose started hanging out more with him rather than her.
"Until SHE started hanging out with YOU"
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It was implied that they were close before and after. Reading between the lines, I'm pretty sure the series of events was:
-Greg and Amethyst meet and 'hang out'
-Greg meets Rose and starts 'hanging out' with her instead
-Rose dies
-Greg starts 'hanging out' with Amethyst again while raising young Steven
-Some incident happens, likely involving Amethyst shapeshifting into Rose
-Greg and Amethyst stop seeing each other and grow apartIt's actually a pretty mature way to tell a story for a kids show and it's a mature story, too. There's a quality I like about this show where it's really honest about childhood. There are plenty of things Steven sees and doesn't understand about the people and world around him, and I like that the show doesn't leave out those parts of the story, but instead shows them to us through Steven's experiences with them. It's not just Greg and Amethyst's relationship in this episode, but definitely with all of the Gem history that he's been slowly learning by accident necessity or both. It makes for a much more believable and fleshed out world.
Also, is it just me or does Garnet just totally rock that Cool Dad jacket?
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It was implied that they were close before and after. Reading between the lines, I'm pretty sure the series of events was:
-Greg and Amethyst meet and 'hang out'
-Greg meets Rose and starts 'hanging out' with her instead
-Rose dies
-Greg starts 'hanging out' with Amethyst again while raising young Steven
-Some incident happens, likely involving Amethyst shapeshifting into Rose
-Greg and Amethyst stop seeing each other and grow apartWhen is it ever implied that Greg and Amethyst met first? I'm pretty sure Rose was the first encounter with the Crystal Gems Greg had when she was the only person to show up to his concert.
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When is it ever implied that Greg and Amethyst met first? I'm pretty sure Rose was the first encounter with the Crystal Gems Greg had when she was the only person to show up to his concert.
Would Amethyst go?
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Would Amethyst go?
I don't know. We have no reason to believe she wouldn't if Greg meant something to her. But that's besides the point.
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When is it ever implied that Greg and Amethyst met first? I'm pretty sure Rose was the first encounter with the Crystal Gems Greg had when she was the only person to show up to his concert.
Well, the meeting part is irrelevant and I sort of just typed it without thinking. But yeah, just drop that word and the rest is pretty much it.
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Well, the meeting part is irrelevant and I sort of just typed it without thinking. But yeah, just drop that word and the rest is pretty much it.
Yeah true everything else seems to check out fine. I was legitimately asking in case I missed something. Because if they HAD met first, that would just add another layer to the whole situation in which it could be interpreted as Rose stealing Greg from Amethyst or something, which I think would be unnecessary.
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No I don't think that's it, if you listen to her outburst again, it seems more like she was jealous of Greg when Rose started hanging out more with him rather than her.
"Until SHE started hanging out with YOU"
This basically. Matt Burnett cleared up the whole "Greg and Amethyst" pairing.
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I just started watching and I'm digging it. Wagomu put it perfectly - this show is very honest about childhood.
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I just assumed he met rose then started hanging out with all the gems and became friends with amethyst and then fell in love with rose
"Until she started hanging out with you" def means they were watching lil butler before the two got serious, if I'm reading that right
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Oh my God, why did no one tell me Joel Hodgson was in this show?! I would have watched it sooner!
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i;m sure they all have emotional baggage. Amethyst is just the most immature at handling it.
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I just assumed he met rose then started hanging out with all the gems and became friends with amethyst and then fell in love with rose
"Until she started hanging out with you" def means they were watching lil butler before the two got serious, if I'm reading that right
I think it went something like this:
-Greg met Rose and the two started hanging out
-Amethyst got jealous that Greg kinda "stole" her best friend/mother figure
-Rose gets pregnant
-Rose dies/gives up her physical form to give birth to Steven
-Greg and the gems arrange how Steven is gonna be raised
-Greg and Amethyst start to bond over their mutual loss and find an escape by watching Lil' Butler, forcing Pearl and Garnet to take care of Steven in the meantime (which explains why they were pissed it was happening again)
-An event happens in which Amethyst torments Greg by shape shifting into Rose, details unknown/unclear (theory: Amethyst tried to replace Rose with Greg as the person who was there for her, and when he tried to walk away, probably for Steven's sake, she took it too far and transformed into Rose to try to get him to stay)
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Did they say she shapeshifted into rose before? I must have missed it..
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Did they say she shapeshifted into rose before? I must have missed it..
They didn't say it explicitly. Something made them stop hanging out and its the easiest guess to make based on what little we know.
I don't think that's the case though, since if that broke their friendship once, would she really do it a second time, even when angry? It seemed like a random act of on the spot pettiness and they all seemed kind of shocked that she went there. (Unless she did it a first time out of some emotion other than anger trying to get a different more love based reaction, in which case its all even more messed up.)
I would go along with Greg realized he was ignoring Stephen though and told Amethyst to stop.
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Yeah I mean it seemed to me that this was the first time she did it… And his reasoning for 'being there for his son' seemed like a first time thing too
Honestly I thought the reason they stopped hanging out was because they fricked and Greg felt horribly guilty about it afterwards
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What Greg says after he turns away from Amethyst-as-Rose: "I know you're doing it. I wanna be friends again. I really do. But I can't let you do this to me again."
Pretty much confirms she's done it in the past.
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i thought she did it before?