The power of the bird cage don't mean much if fuji hypothetically goes and kick don ass.
If Doflamingo locked himself inside the kairoseki factory there's nothing Fujitora can do(maybe he can, but we don't know that yet). You are arguing something very differently, I hope you know that.
If Doflamingo locked himself inside the kairoseki factory there's nothing Fujitora can do(maybe he can, but we don't know that yet). You are arguing something very differently, I hope you know that.
If fuji stop him before he does that , we can do this all day .
You try to come up with a hypothetically plot to show it don't matter if don is at the center of the cage or not .
Because he can hide in the factor and wait until everyone dead to make the bird cage seem unbeatable .
That make no sense since that forgets all they charcaters that can do something about it
This arc is a perfect example of why you shouldn't have too many characters. Regardless of whether or not they make sense, there is always going to be questions about why such and such character isn't doing this or that. I hope Oda learned his lesson.
I honestly think Oda just doesn't know what to do with Fuji for example. It's like he was in this arc just to say he wants to dissolve the Warlords. Burgess, if he's truly going for DFs, should have gone for Dofla since he's weak as well. If Burgess doesn't atleast get 1 df then I really don't see why he was in this arc, and I really like him. There are more examples I can come up, and other people have their own
If fuji stop him before he does that , we can do this all day .
You try to come up with a hypothetically plot to show it don't matter if don is at the center of the cage or not .
Because he can hide in the factor and wait until everyone dead to make the bird cage seem unbeatable .
You're arguing something completely different and you don't even realize it… It's not about what could happen which you are arguing with Fujitora hiding or kicking Doflamingo's ass and doing this all day, cause anything can happen, especially in One Piece. It's about how overpowered the birdcage in and of itself is and I use a hypothetical situation to show that.
You're arguing something completely different and you don't even realize it… It's not about what could happen which you are arguing with Fujitora hiding or kicking Doflamingo's ass and doing this all day, cause anything can happen, especially in One Piece. It's about how overpowered the birdcage in and of itself is and I use a hypothetical situation to show that.
And i am saying using a hypothetical situation to show that make no sense.
This arc is a perfect example of why you shouldn't have too many characters. Regardless of whether or not they make sense, there is always going to be questions about why such and such character isn't doing this or that. I hope Oda learned his lesson.
I honestly think Oda just doesn't know what to do with Fuji for example. It's like he was in this arc just to say he wants to dissolve the Warlords. Burgess, if he's truly going for DFs, should have gone for Dofla since he's weak as well. If Burgess doesn't atleast get 1 df then I really don't see why he was in this arc, and I really like him. There are more examples I can come up, and other people have their own
Pretty much. Honestly it's the birdcage that forced all these situations. If not, it could've just been written of as Burgess not being in the vincinity of Doflamingo and Fujitora not helping cause of the dissolvement. Now it just all goes out the window.
I honestly think Oda just doesn't know what to do with Fuji for example. It's like he was in this arc just to say he wants to dissolve the Warlords. Burgess, if he's truly going for DFs, should have gone for Dofla since he's weak as well. If Burgess doesn't atleast get 1 df then I really don't see why he was in this arc, and I really like him. There are more examples I can come up, and other people have their own
Fuji is important in the sense that he plans on doing something with this whole event, whatever it is.
And Burgess went for Luffy because he was looking weaker.
Lol Doffy doesn't need to hide from his own strings…That's like Ace being afraid if his own fire or Enel hiding from electricity.
This arc is a perfect example of why you shouldn't have too many characters. Regardless of whether or not they make sense, there is always going to be questions about why such and such character isn't doing this or that. I hope Oda learned his lesson.
I honestly think Oda just doesn't know what to do with Fuji for example. It's like he was in this arc just to say he wants to dissolve the Warlords. Burgess, if he's truly going for DFs, should have gone for Dofla since he's weak as well. If Burgess doesn't atleast get 1 df then I really don't see why he was in this arc, and I really like him. There are more examples I can come up, and other people have their own
The only reason why i see Burgess going after sabo DF so much is Burgess and BB want to stick it to luffy and maybe the WB pirates .
I can see BB saying to one of the wb pirates ace has now become part of my crew or something like that .
And i am saying using a hypothetical situation to show that make no sense.
You're arguing something completely different and you don't even realize it. We can do this all day, but let's just say you are right and call it a day.
I do feel Zoro is doing his best, because he can't cut the birdcage, so all he can do is brute force against it.
He gave a speech to the samurai, something like "How do you know we can't push it if you haven't even tried?"
So… How does he know he can't cut it? Did he try, and I just missed it?... :ninja:
Andy…u make no sense and ur English is bad. Just ignore it kcity
This arc is a perfect example of why you shouldn't have too many characters. Regardless of whether or not they make sense, there is always going to be questions about why such and such character isn't doing this or that. I hope Oda learned his lesson.
In my humble opinion, the problem is not the number of people involved, we had that many people in the war and it went just fine. The problem for dressrosa is the insane powers of the Mingo famaily and Mingo himself. From somebody controlling strings, we have a guy now who can fly, cut, parasite, cut communication, create strings from objects, heal himself, create a string clone that can laugh and get angry and above all, the clone can cast some strings that even an admiral cannot scratch. I really was annoyed by the limitless powers of sugar, but at least she is not a fighter and I accepted it. But the powers Mingo has been showing are insane, but this last chapter… It's too much for me.
I honestly think Oda just doesn't know what to do with Fuji for example. It's like he was in this arc just to say he wants to dissolve the Warlords. Burgess, if he's truly going for DFs, should have gone for Dofla since he's weak as well.
It seems that the Gomu Gomu is much more interesting to Burgess than let's say Pica's fruit or the mightiest of them all: the ito ito. Which is retarded. And Burgess was clear he is going for the devil fruit not luffy himself. But guess what, that was a way to take Sabo from the fight against Mingo. And vice versa, to take Burgess, we have Sabo as an Alibi.
Lol Doffy doesn't need to hide from his own strings…That's like Ace being afraid if his own fire or Enel hiding from electricity.
I'm not sure I agree. Fire can't burn fire. Lightning can't electrocute lightning. I see no reason why strings can't cut a human being that can fire strings and stuff.
I mean, I do agree he doesn't need to hide - I'm sure he can control the strings to go around him, let him out, dissolve, whatever he wants. BUT, if the strings DID hit him, he isn't a logia - he is just a flesh and blood man - and I'd think they would cut him. He can't just pass through them like fire on fire appears to.
(Even if he was a logia, different "elements" behave differently; stone logia wouldn't just let stone pass through stone, I would think (I'm not referencing Pica, since I firmly hold he is paramecia, but in any case this claim holds for him too))
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Andy…u make no sense and ur English is bad. Just ignore it kcity
Circumstantial ad hominem?
He gave a speech to the samurai, something like "How do you know we can't push it if you haven't even tried?"
So… How does he know he can't cut it? Did he try, and I just missed it?... :ninja:
I would have thought that Zoro hardening his swords and slamming them at the cage would be enough to convince people that those strings can't be cut. I mean, it's not like he just placed those swords there gently. If he's using all his strength + Hardening to push those things back (and the strings themselves look fine), why are we supposed to believe he would be able to cut it?
I would have thought that Zoro hardening his swords and slamming them at the cage would be enough to convince people that those strings can't be cut. I mean, it's not like he just placed those swords there gently. If he's using all his strength + Hardening to push those things back (and the strings themselves look fine), why are we supposed to believe he would be able to cut it?
Because katana are slicing weapons, not chopping weapons. If he wielded bastard swords or axes, then you make a very good point. But the ability to cut with a katana comes from a certain kind of motion - a slicing motion. Slicing is a matter of moving the blade across a surface, while chopping is a matter of pushing the blade directly at the surface. I'm not a physicist, and I unfortunately can't be more precise, but that's more or less the difference that makes a difference: that's why just bashing his katana into the strings does not show he can't cut the cage - bashing is not how katana cut.
In my humble opinion, the problem is not the number of people involved, we had that many people in the war and it went just fine. The problem for dressrosa is the insane powers of the Mingo famaily and Mingo himself. From somebody controlling strings, we have a guy now who can fly, cut, parasite, cut communication, create strings from objects, heal himself, create a string clone that can laugh and get angry and above all, the clone can cast some strings that even an admiral cannot scratch. I really was annoyed by the limitless powers sugar, but at least she is not a fighter and accepted it. But the powers Mingo has been showing are insane, but this last chapter… It's too much for me.
It seems that the Gomu Gomu is much more interesting to Burgess than let's say Pica's fruit or the mightiest of them all: the ito ito. Which is retarded. And Burgess was clear he is going for the devil fruit not luffy himself. But guess what, that was a way to take Sabo from the fight against Mingo. And vice versa, to take Burgess, we have Sabo as an Alibi.
Well said. Sugars powers are honestly even more ridiculous, but at least it gets swept under the rug by Usopp like with Perona's ridiculous powers.
I honestly think Oda just doesn't know what to do with Fuji for example. It's like he was in this arc just to say he wants to dissolve the Warlords. Burgess, if he's truly going for DFs, should have gone for Dofla since he's weak as well. If Burgess doesn't atleast get 1 df then I really don't see why he was in this arc, and I really like him. There are more examples I can come up, and other people have their own
Ever since the arc started I knew Fuji was gonna be as useful as Smoker was at Arabasta, but I was expecting Oda to keep him actually busy, letting him just walk his ass around while everyone's lifes are in danger was just disappointing as hell, even Burguess is busy right now -_-
In my humble opinion, the problem is not the number of people involved, we had that many people in the war and it went just fine. The problem for dressrosa is the insane powers of the Mingo famaily and Mingo himself. From somebody controlling strings, we have a guy now who can fly, cut, parasite, cut communication, create strings from objects, heal himself, create a string clone that can laugh and get angry and above all, the clone can cast some strings that even an admiral cannot scratch. I really was annoyed by the limitless powers of sugar, but at least she is not a fighter and I accepted it. But the powers Mingo has been showing are insane, but this last chapter… It's too much for me.
Of those abilities, only the string clone bothers me because it feels like it requires way more than just string manipulation in order to work.
Indestructible string cage doesn't really bother me that much. Even Parasite is fine as something similar happened in Naruto with Sasori controlling a hundred puppets at once. Those things do feel like could be done with absolute mastery over string manipulation.
Of those abilities, only the string clone bothers me because it feels like it requires way more than just string manipulation in order to work.
Indestructible string cage doesn't really bother me that much. Even Parasite is fine as something similar happened in Naruto with Sasori controlling a hundred puppets at once. Those things do feel like could be done with absolute mastery over string manipulation.
I was afraid someone would bring up Naruto and guess what pushed me to stop Naruto: The insane powers of Akatsuki. As simple as that. And I am afraid this is what will happen to my "One Piece" experience. And may I remind you that, it is the clone that started the bird damn cage.
He also used his strongest moves against both (Gomu Gomu Storm at the time).
then we have no reason to say that fuji's meteors are his strongest move .
just to point one thing , about birdcage , yes its absurd and its overpowered the whole fight don't seem logical ( using the manga's logic ) , Oda just wanted to use his old recipe , a big event threatening many people on the island while Luffy have the final fight with the boss , except this looks forced this time , just forget about arguments for or against birdcage , i don't think it can be explained , the manga have been running for too long and DF abilities became insanely powerful , maybe Oda could've just forget about his old recipe because this just doesnt work , but this "big event threatening everyone " at least have some good sides which are the mugis getting new allies that wouldn't have joined the mugis cause if it wasn't for birdcage .
yes i agree with you there are many other possible ways to do that , except you forget that Oda is under big pressure and writing weekly , this can happen to any writer , with that in mind i accept the birdcage idea symbolically because there are no logical reasons for what is happening in dressrosa . ( and those fckng string clones just to use that cliffhanger when kyros cut doffla's head pfff )
for the chap 789 predictions , i think that viola will get powned , rebecca will try to save her but will get powned too , and finally we will have one of the strongest "allies" defending the ladies cavendish who will effectively stall doffla , but will be on the edge of losing and this will be the moment for Luffy to jump in the fray !
I was afraid someone would bring up Naruto and guess what pushed me to stop Naruto: The insane powers of Akatsuki. As simple as that. And I am afraid this is what will happen to my "One Piece" experience. And may I remind you that, it is the clone that started the bird damn cage.
So what if the clone started the cage? Doula can easily do it himself too.
And Sasori's powers weren't that ridiculous (that was mostly the Sharingan, Edo Tensei and the Six Paths of Pain). Create a bunch of Chakra strings to control several puppets at once. Doula could easily do that too being a String Man.
In my humble opinion, the problem is not the number of people involved, we had that many people in the war and it went just fine. The problem for dressrosa is the insane powers of the Mingo famaily and Mingo himself. From somebody controlling strings, we have a guy now who can fly, cut, parasite, cut communication, create strings from objects, heal himself, create a string clone that can laugh and get angry and above all, the clone can cast some strings that even an admiral cannot scratch. I really was annoyed by the limitless powers of sugar, but at least she is not a fighter and I accepted it. But the powers Mingo has been showing are insane, but this last chapter… It's too much for me.
I really don't see don powers being more insane that WB or some of the admirals .
Lets be serious here Oda had to nerf WB and put him in the story where he could not go all out .
The same for the admirals .
the whole fight don't seem logical ( using the manga's logic )
You are a man (or woman) after my own heart.
So what if the clone started the cage? Doula can easily do it himself too.
It's the fact that the clone is more powerful than a country + admiral + zoro +…....
I really don't see don powers being more insane that WB or some of the admirals .
Lets be serious here Oda had to nerf WB and put him in the story where he could not go all out .
The same for the admirals .
Except that, the techniques of those guys had been countered or stopped. Every body was fighting every body. I mean, WB had been attacked by almost all marines with different outcomes. The admirals, the same way, even WB commanders have shown some competence against admirals. But here in dressrosa, we have an admiral unable to do anything to a thing created by a clone of a warlord. I am not even talking about that said warlord.
It's the fact that the clone is more powerful than a country + admiral + zoro +…....
The cage is built in a different way from the clone. For example, the cage strings are thicker.
Remember that Doula can manipulate his strings in ways to make them thicker and tougher, like his spider web and overheat attacks. The only thing he did with the clone is reuse the strings.
I do have to admit the cage being indestructible is pushing things. I like the idea of it, and if there a was a clear reason for it being the way and certain downfalls that would be fine. However, there are certain problems that come with it that many have brought up. I can look past it for the most part, but there will be those questions in my head that will ruin it for me somewhat.
That said, I don't mind Zoro not being able to cut it. In some ways, that's knocking him down a few pegs. The guy who said he can cut anything not being able to cut something. It makes Zoro look more human in a way, where he gloats and then down the road he gets disproven.
Zoro got launched by Orlumbus because the range of his flying slahes is limited.
Maybe it was Oda's way of saying that Zoro can't cut the entire cage from a distance.
Now that is smaller Law could slice the shit out of it, if he had enough stamina of course.
So after "It's Haki" now we have "It's Stamina"?
Fujitora has said his priority was the people, basically save them. See only intervene now, it's pretty laughable one side. He could at least show an interest in stopping the BC!
Besides, you have a lot of characters, including an Admiral to push the cage. I find Fujitora is lowered for once !!
I would have preferred to see something related to its severity, or alone in his corner and brings a huge support. But here's how it's presented, I have not found it class and rewarding for our dear Admiral (that I like the way).
Fujitora in Dressrossa is like the Flash participating in a sprint event. Can't ran too fast, can't run too slow. Can't be the one who stops Doflamingo's plan, can't let people die though.
It's incredibly ambigious. Which is why I've left it alone all this time. Don't understand something, then better wait for the the end.
I just wonder what will you guys say now after this battle ends( since DD is likely 1-2 shots from Luffy and defeated next chapter)
Did Luffy solo DD'? Or was is a team up?
@uniaka:
I just wonder what will you guys say now after this battle ends( since DD is likely 1-2 shots from Luffy and defeated next chapter)
Did Luffy solo DD'? Or was is a team up?
With the way how the fight was i going with team up.
MVP being Gatz not counting luffy.
@uniaka:
I just wonder what will you guys say now after this battle ends( since DD is likely 1-2 shots from Luffy and defeated next chapter)
Did Luffy solo DD'? Or was is a team up?
It was a team-up undoubtedly.
Luffy would have beat the shit out of doflamingo regardless
Gear 4 was far beyond doflamingo
Luffy would have beat the shit out of doflamingo regardless
Gear 4 was far beyond doflamingo
I'm not so sure. Gear 4 is monstrous, don't get me wrong.
But – regardless of how he may have "shrugged it off" or was in the process of repairing it -- Doflamingo did have internal organ damage from Law.
Gear 4 also didn't finish off Doflamingo. Without the help of his allies, again, Luffy would be toast. Gatz and Law are considerable factors behind Luffy's eventual victory.
Luffy would have been defeated 10 minutes ago.
Luffy was going all out all of a sudden as well.
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@uniaka:
I just wonder what will you guys say now after this battle ends( since DD is likely 1-2 shots from Luffy and defeated next chapter)
Did Luffy solo DD'? Or was is a team up?
Undoubtedly there were many factors leading to his win. Gamma knife/countershock combo, then you have Gatz and everyone delaying Luffy defeat until recovery.
The best part about it is Doflamingo has been fucking around with an entire nation simultaneously.
Law has been put there for plot purposes sitting next to Luffy. Once luffy gets up and starts fighting Doflamingos going to pull off the inevitable string trap (sanji/jozu) and law will room him out.
You clearly forgot the meteor shower on purpose.
And it was a 10.000 ton man. That's the weight of a war cruiser.
Pica himself was just stone. Zoro could cut those since the start of the series.
And look at the upper panel of this page. You think that was just pushing? If he's using all his strength + Haki on the cage and nothing happens to it, I don't see how an actual move would be of any help.
my mistake. Getting 5h a sleep at night for a week straight isn't doing me any favors. Don't really have anything else to say that i haven't already
I'm not sure I agree. Fire can't burn fire. Lightning can't electrocute lightning. I see no reason why strings can't cut a human being that can fire strings and stuff.
I mean, I do agree he doesn't need to hide - I'm sure he can control the strings to go around him, let him out, dissolve, whatever he wants. BUT, if the strings DID hit him, he isn't a logia - he is just a flesh and blood man - and I'd think they would cut him. He can't just pass through them like fire on fire appears to.
(Even if he was a logia, different "elements" behave differently; stone logia wouldn't just let stone pass through stone, I would think (I'm not referencing Pica, since I firmly hold he is paramecia, but in any case this claim holds for him too))
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Circumstantial ad hominem?
You mentioned two logias.
Doflamingo is a paramecia. Makes perfect sense.
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Sorry Ned.
I meant to quote the other guy
Gear 4 also didn't finish off Doflamingo. Without the help of his allies, again, Luffy would be toast. Gatz and Law are considerable factors behind Luffy's eventual victory.
Luffy might be getting help from the people from Dressrosa, but don't forget Doflamingo is also taking advantadge of them; forcing Luffy to hurry up by threatening their lives. He used Gear Fourth at that point of the fight because he had to finish the battle as soon as possible to protect the country, (which he failed to do, by a margin of one hit) but the need to hurry up wouldn't have existed if the citizens weren't in danger.
Basically, both Luffy and Doflamingo are taking advantadge of the citizens.
And it's not as if Luffy didn't take any damage before the fight, either.
@HTC:
Isn't birdcage CoA haki-fied? I mean, the strings that compose it.
In order to overpower CoA's haki, one needs a stronger CoA's haki and, judging by everyone's inability to stop it, i'd say Mingo's CoA is stronger then even Fujitora's. Dunno about Sabo's since he didn't try to stop the cage, yet.
Personally, i think Oda's just trying to show a united Dressrosa trying to stop / slow down the cage: citizens, tournament warriors, pirates and marines alike.
Remember when Luffy broke through Marigold's CoA haki? Brute force was required for that. What if all the people trying to halt birdcage were to succeed that way? Individually, they haven't got the strength to pull it off but, combined … isn't that a form of brute strength? Whether or not it's sufficient remains to be seen.
Haki has a limit. Covering that much surface area with CoA would have Doflamingo done.
Can't wait to see full body CoA Doffy.
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Luffy might be getting help from the people from Dressrosa, but don't forget Doflamingo is also taking advantadge of them; forcing Luffy to hurry up by threatening their lives. He used Gear Fourth at that point of the fight because he had to finish the battle as soon as possible to protect the country, (which he failed to do, by a margin of one hit) but the need to hurry up wouldn't have existed if the citizens weren't in danger.
Basically, both Luffy and Doflamingo are taking advantadge of the citizens.
And it's not as if Luffy didn't take any damage before the fight, either.
Luffy was doing NOTHING against Doflamingo with previous gears. Luffy went all out to defeat Dofla. He failed.
Luffy would have been defeated without the citizens without their help. Luffy knew this as well.
@DHL:
Luffy was doing NOTHING against Doflamingo with previous gears. Luffy went all out to defeat Dofla. He failed.
Luffy would have been defeated without the citizens without their help. Luffy knew this as well.
Luffy was fast enough to hit Doflamingo with basic Gear Second attacks, but they didn't hurt him. Now, Red Hawk was powerful enough to hurt him, and it should also be fast enough to hit him since it's a Gear Second attack.
Yes, had the citizens refused to help Luffy, he would be dead. But if the citizens weren't there to begin with, he wouldn't have ended in that situation, since he rushed to Gear Fourth to protect them from the Birdcage. And that's why Doflamingo isn't knocked out already.
I'll repeat it, Doflamingo is said to be one hit away from getting knocked out. Luffy just used Gear Fourth too soon.
Looking at the fight, it is a team up yes but oda made sure not to have luffy and law fight don together for more than a very short time.
As strong as don is don't think he could have take them on in a full at the same time 2 vs 1 fight .
Gear 4 luffy in law room would be crazy lol
I don't want to be a downer, but this chapter, man…
There are a lot of obvious ways to be doing things better than how they are being done - for example, Zoro just trying to cut bird-cage, succeeding, but it doesn't matter cause it just regenerated instantaneously. Now, of course, Oda likes to do things that are unpredictable, but the problem with Zoro (and everyone) just pushing the birdcage is it isn't unpredictable qua creative; it is unpredictable qua unbelievable/inane/problematic. It is unbelievable that Zoro wouldn't even TRY to cut it after his "I can cut everything" speech. It is inane in that people who could do something about Doffy (even Zoro, though he doesn't get involved in Luffy's fights, does stand up when he is down, but there are countless others too) are choosing to push on the birdcage instead. It is problematic because it leads to power level discussions, which one piece is not supposed to be about.
How cool would it be if the problem wasn't just "Birdcage > Everyone on the island, including Fuji, Zoro, and other strong bros", but instead that the power itself functions in weird ways? How cool would it be if Zoro could cut it, but it regenerates instantly? If it couldn't cut or move barto's barrier, but instead it just wound itself around/over it? How could would it be if it was malleable and fuji's gravity just pulled it down a little? And how cool would it be if, all these things the birdcage does to work around its problem, all that effort expended to get around each characters unique ways of dealing with it, slowed the birdcage down? How could would it be if regenerating strings, moving around barriers, etc. slowed Doffy down?
More importantly: How One Piece would that be? How One Piece would it be for different characters to unite under a common goal, but in their own ways, instead of everybody - including Roronoa "Sliceman" Zoro - just pushing on strings together? How One Piece is the Zoro and everyone else just pushing on strings together? Not very, imo.
And now everything is a goddamn timer. Luffy needs 3 minutes, but Birdcage will take only 2, but Dandelion tears take 2.5 (or what the hell ever). Instead of weird creative limitations and powers, we're just getting time limit after time limit after time limit tempered with out of character inanity.
The last few chapters I have had mixed feelings about, but I think it was mostly just due to arc fatigue. Now, though, problems are really coming together, and I think I can honestly say that this is the first chapter of One Piece I have seriously disliked. I will keep reading, and I hope that it gets better, and I absolutely 100% think Oda can do that, but at the time time, post-time skip just isn't feeling right to me, and this chapter really made that feel worse.
Can i just nominate this post as the worst post of 2015 ? Jesus Christ people sure are desperate for attention in this part of the forum .
This arc is a perfect example of why you shouldn't have too many characters. Regardless of whether or not they make sense, there is always going to be questions about why such and such character isn't doing this or that. I hope Oda learned his lesson.
I honestly think Oda just doesn't know what to do with Fuji for example. It's like he was in this arc just to say he wants to dissolve the Warlords. Burgess, if he's truly going for DFs, should have gone for Dofla since he's weak as well. If Burgess doesn't atleast get 1 df then I really don't see why he was in this arc, and I really like him. There are more examples I can come up, and other people have their own
No Oda needed to put this many characters in the arc for set up, maybe it didn't fan out properly but this wasn't just Oda wanting to throw a bunch if people together for the he'll of it this was a necessity.
And it's not Oda that doesn't know what to do with Fujitora it's you fans that can't get over the fact that his purpose is to do nothing and that there's a valid reason for that.
Fujitora has had his marines helping out with this entire situation he's just refraining from attacking Doflamingo and taking down the birdcage.
If it came down to the wire he would without a doubt take Doflamingo down rather than let all these people get slaughtered but it's not at that point yet.
