Especially since plot dwarfs it all every time.
Also from what I've seen, allowing Power level debates leads to endless creation of threads on that topic, and people don't talk about anything else.
Especially since plot dwarfs it all every time.
Also from what I've seen, allowing Power level debates leads to endless creation of threads on that topic, and people don't talk about anything else.
@uniaka:
Dellinger wrecked shit, Bellamy din't fight back. If Bellamy is good enough to hurt even luffy, Dellinger would be no problem for him.
I don't know about that. Dellinger easily dealt with fighters like Ideo and Blue Gilly.
I don't know about that. Dellinger easily dealt with fighters like Ideo and Blue Gilly.
Not sure myself where to place ideo, Gilly, Dellinger. Buth since all 3 lack either DF or Haki, I can't place them on par with Bellamy who looks like a smaller version of luffy, since their fruits are so similar, they both have CoA attacks.
The problem with Vergo, Diamante, Pica and Trebol is their tendency to overestimate what they are capable of when they have minimal knowledge on the opponent they are facing. Instead of approaching the fight from a cautious stance, they head in with their chest puffed out and believe they can torment their opponent before they finish them.
Vergo learned the hard way how wrong he was.
Diamante learned the hard way how wrong it was to underestimate a one-legged man, especially one driven by anger and rage.
Pica will learn how wrong he is in being safe in his stone.
Trebol will learn his snot is disgusting.
And Doflamingo will learn his executives weren't that smart - overestimating themselves and not exercising caution in their battles.
I don't know, I'm inclined to think Pica, of all people, should be allowed to boast a bit. I mean, the man has reshaped an entire island to his will, turned into a massive stone golem punching entire streets outta the way, then has kept doing tons of crazy shit, all the while being slashed once by Zoro, an attack that, by now, seems to have done little to no lasting damage.
He'll get wrecked by Zoro in one chapter, but what he's shown till now, well, it does give him at least a bit of a reason to be overconfident.
And talking about being wrecked in one chapter, if someone is perfectly justified in going down in such a manner, that's Pica, considering the fact that he's done tons of shit already, and, in his case and his case only, most of that shit has been on-panel.
Now Trébol, on the other hand. . . . . .
I don't know, I'm inclined to think Pica, of all people, should be allowed to boast a bit. I mean, the man has reshaped an entire island to his will, turned into a massive stone golem punching entire streets outta the way, then has kept doing tons of crazy shit, all the while being slashed once by Zoro, an attack that, by now, seems to have done little to no lasting damage.
He'll get wrecked by Zoro in one chapter, but what he's shown till now, well, it does give him at least a bit of a reason to be overconfident.
And talking about being wrecked in one chapter, if someone is perfectly justified in going down in such a manner, that's Pica, considering the fact that he's done tons of shit already, and, in his case and his case only, most of that shit has been on-panel.
I respectfully disagree, because while Pica is incredibly flashy, he is also incredibly ineffective.
Indeed, Pica will make a fine landscaper.
The problem I have with Pica is that he is just like Daz Bones, he believes his Devil Fruit makes him invincible. Sure he can cause lots of destruction with his ability and tank a lot, but has he really faced such weak opponents in the past that he has reached a point where he feels his abilities make it impossible for someone to defeat him?
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The problem with Vergo, Diamante, Pica and Trebol is their tendency to overestimate what they are capable of when they have minimal knowledge on the opponent they are facing. Instead of approaching the fight from a cautious stance, they head in with their chest puffed out and believe they can torment their opponent before they finish them.
Vergo learned the hard way how wrong he was.
Diamante learned the hard way how wrong it was to underestimate a one-legged man, especially one driven by anger and rage.
Pica will learn how wrong he is in being safe in his stone.
Trebol will learn his snot is disgusting.
And Doflamingo will learn his executives weren't that smart - overestimating themselves and not exercising caution in their battles.
I wouldn't say that they are all dumb, but that they clearly are resting on their past glory. Law was 100% right when he spoke to Doflamingo after cutting through Vergo: Over the last two years when basically all hell broke loose due to the War and the death of Whitebeard Doflamingo and his men could have done more to make the Doflamingo Pirates a bigger threat to the world but they sat back and did nothing, just resting on their past victories and having one of the strongest pirates in the world as their boss.
Because while they did nothing over two years, the rest of the world was showing how everything is about to change in this "New Era", and that inactivity is going to cost them everything they had.
I think people might be forgetting about this exchange from chapter 747 between Doflamingo and Pica. Pica asked Doflamingo for permission to go all-out, and said that, if allowed to do so, he could take out everyone, up to and including a Marine Admiral. The Doflamingo replied that there was no need to do that, and told him that they only had to crush the ones that came to challenge them.
What we've seen so far isn't Pica going all-out. This is probably somehow related to Zoro's observation that Pica is up to something in their fight, and why Pica hasn't seemed very impressive in terms of his ability to threaten Zoro.
My guess is that the destruction of the factory will make Doflamingo snap and give Pica permission to go all-out, and we'll see something a lot more impressive from him. Not that I don't agree that he's probably rather overconfident, I just feel like people are selling him short.
I respectfully disagree, because while Pica is incredibly flashy, he is also incredibly ineffective.
This. The guy has taken out more of his troops than enemies.
Like Jake the Dog said: "You've gone crazy mad with power lust, and I'm loving it."
Except he sucks with it.
Diamante isn't done yet, we didn't get to see his flashback with Crocus.
@uniaka:
Dellinger wrecked shit, Bellamy din't fight back. If Bellamy is good enough to hurt even luffy, Dellinger would be no problem for him.
Bellamy having Haki means shit. Chinjao also has Haki, but he could barely do anything against Lao G.
Same thing for Boo. Confirmed CoA user, but curbstomped by Machvise.
Amazon Lily, the skypean priests and the viceadmirals all prove that haki isn't the "ultimate technique", and also prove that non haki users can defeat them.
Boo and Tashigi are the poster people that prove that having haki does not equal being uber. Hell, Tashigi could damage Monet while Robin couldn't, but no one in their right minds would doubt for a second that Robin schools Tashigi any day of the week.
And to all the Pica deniers, you're a bunch of party poopers. You can rate people by the ammount of property damage they provide; that's how most decided that Trébol is stronger than Diamante, cause he lifted a ship and destroyed a building with it.
And reshaping an island is overpowered and impressive as FUCK. Oh, and before Luffy and Zoro jumped at Pica's massive statue, no one even knew how to tackle him or do some lasting damage.
Go back to your corner, open your mouths and eat some rain and dust.
I think people might be forgetting about this exchange from chapter 747 between Doflamingo and Pica. Pica asked Doflamingo for permission to go all-out, and said that, if allowed to do so, he could take out everyone, up to and including a Marine Admiral. The Doflamingo replied that there was no need to do that, and told him that they only had to crush the ones that came to challenge them.
What we've seen so far isn't Pica going all-out. This is probably somehow related to Zoro's observation that Pica is up to something in their fight, and why Pica hasn't seemed very impressive in terms of his ability to threaten Zoro.
My guess is that the destruction of the factory will make Doflamingo snap and give Pica permission to go all-out, and we'll see something a lot more impressive from him. Not that I don't agree that he's probably rather overconfident, I just feel like people are selling him short.
Except that was all talk. How much does talk really equal in the OPU?
Often not much. Your right though, in that interchange both DD and Pica claimed they could take out an admiral, but without the actual taking out an Admiral to back it up. Keep in mind also Diamante thought he could hold back all 4blocks tournament winners including both who he thought was Luffy, and Burgess,; which even if he had teamed up with Burgess against Luffy, Barto,and Rebecca, still don't see it being anywhere near as easy as he made it sound. Like others said, even if they're capable of a lot, they still seem like a crew that constantly overestimates themselves.
Well with them and a few others being the last ones fight ready of DD's crew, guess they'll get the chance to prove it 1 way or another.
Go back to your corner, open your mouths and eat some rain and dust.
Don't go quoting Kubo on the masses, please.
If you want to get technical, the Trebol team was the most efficient.
Jora was able to take the entire Sunny team minus Sanji, who in turn was easily incapacitated by Viola. And Sugar had no problem defending herself from Robin. Trebol had a walk in the park against Usopp.
@LUFFYSMC:
Except that was all talk.
It doesn't matter whether he was overestimating his capabilities, because that wasn't the point; the point was that he asked for permission to go all-out, and was denied it. We know he's holding back, even if we don't know exactly what he's holding back.
Keep in mind also Diamante thought he could hold back all 4blocks tournament winners including both who he thought was Luffy, and Burgess,; which even if he had teamed up with Burgess against Luffy, Barto,and Rebecca, still don't see it being anywhere near as easy as he made it sound.
He didn't have to; as far as he was concerned, the finals were 1v1v1v1v1, not 3v1v1, and he didn't have to beat them in a fight, he had to beat them under the rules of the competition - all he had to do was knock them out of bounds. As things actually turned out, he spent most of the final round taunting Rebecca (which is essentially showboating for the crowd, since they hate her), and was caught off guard when Sabo took advantage of the chaos caused by the success of operation SOP and simply destroyed the entire ring.
Imagine if he'd started using the techniques he used against Kyros - the ground would be waving under them, there would be spiked steel balls raining from the sky, and he'd be gouging out large sections of the ring with his half moon glaive, while waving out of the way of any incoming attacks. I can see why Doflamingo would have such confidence in his abilities in the Colosseum.
Bellamy having Haki means shit. Chinjao also has Haki, but he could barely do anything against Lao G.
Same thing for Boo. Confirmed CoA user, but curbstomped by Machvise.
Chinjao said himself that his fight with luffy got to him, not that Lao G himself was that great. You also have to consider that Sai awakens his 'forgot how you name that attack', took the lead of Navy, not only in name but also in power. It was all about Sai, he was the one to shine.
Haki and DF are the two best powers in one piece. Bellamy has both.
His haki was good enough to bypass luffy's CoA armor and hurt him. I don't think even chinjao did that( not sure about that)
Boo curbstomped by Machvise? Haki could be based on the user. The weaker you are, same goes for your haki.
It's still soon for haki debate, it just started to show in NW, likely close to the end we will know the full of what haki is all about.
One thing is for sure. First half of the manga was about DF for the main character, now in the second half he started to train his haki, the half that will decide him as PK.
Don't go quoting Kubo on the masses, please.
"When the moon cries in anger,
and the darkness fills my heart with despair,
I want to eat some chocolate syrup with a spoon." - Kubo, Tite, circa 2013
@uniaka:
Chinjao said himself that his fight with luffy got to him, not that Lao G himself was that great. You also have to consider that Sai awakens his 'forgot how you name that attack', took the lead of Navy, not only in name but also in power. It was all about Sai, he was the one to shine.
Haki and DF are the two best powers in one piece. Bellamy has both.
His haki was good enough to bypass luffy's CoA armor and hurt him. I don't think even chinjao did that( not sure about that)Boo curbstomped by Machvise? Haki could be based on the user. The weaker you are, same goes for your haki.
Dude, Hody Jones was able to bite through Luffy's CoA despite the former having no Haki whatsoever. Luffy himself is not a CoA expert yet.
And there's also the fact that, unlike Chinjao, Luffy is not fighting back against Bellamy.
And the only Haki that is based on the user's strength is Haoshoku. That was already established.
Haki the end-game ability! If you don't use it you don't have it and If you use it and you lose you're a weakling… Haki the edn-game ability!
Bellamy having Haki means shit. Chinjao also has Haki, but he could barely do anything against Lao G.
Same thing for Boo. Confirmed CoA user, but curbstomped by Machvise.
Say what you want about Bellamy, but you can't be serious about using that fight with Chinjao and Lao G as proof.
This is exactly why the double standard of "off- panel fights" makes very little sense. Diamante fighting this whole time against Off- panel for chapters against Kyros can be seen as impressive; yet Lao G fighting a very worn out previously within hours toyified, and head reforming defeated Chinjao off screen for chapters equals "barely doing anything against"? Something Lao G also started to transform for the guy 'barely doing anything against him'?
Amazon Lily, the skypean priests and the viceadmirals all prove that haki isn't the "ultimate technique", and also prove that non haki users can defeat them.
Nobody really says it's the "ultimate technique", but it definitely adds something "emphasis on Impactful" to them. ( Not counting VA's since I never really took them seriously). When looking at AL and the Skypean Priests looking at those fights they tended to be won by exceeding speed, teamwork, surprise thru numbers, or something with adding power/ force in varying degrees of CoA, or CoO separately, ( golden bell, Luffy captures while Sanji kicks, Zoro's 1st real 'flying attack', Gear 2nd speed exceeds theirs); just saying it seemed it also still really took an extra something to overcome the benefits that haki provides.
It doesn't matter whether he was overestimating his capabilities, because that wasn't the point; the point was that he asked for permission to go all-out, and was denied it. We know he's holding back, even if we don't know exactly what he's holding back.
Yes that still is kinda the point, as he wasn't facing Fujitora at the time nor could possibly know all of, or even a majority of his capabilities; Yet this Shichibukai protected crewmember words are to be taken as seriously as actions?….
O.......K............?
If we don't know when, or where, how, or what he's holding back, then we also don't know if he's truly holding back, or especially if he is in these circumstances specifically.
Not saying he is or isn't, but until we see some evidence of it, can you really see lack of evidence of it, as proof of it?….......
He didn't have to; as far as he was concerned, the finals were 1v1v1v1v1, not 3v1v1, and he didn't have to beat them in a fight, he had to beat them under the rules of the competition - all he had to do was knock them out of bounds. As things actually turned out, he spent most of the final round taunting Rebecca (which is essentially showboating for the crowd, since they hate her), and was caught off guard when Sabo took advantage of the chaos caused by the success of operation SOP and simply destroyed the entire ring.
Actually DD had informed him, that it would be 1 vs 1 vs 1 vs 1 vs him was definitely an option. In fact Any1 who thought they could handle the Colosseum finals, should yes think there was a possibility of that similar to Enel vs Wiper vs Gan Fall vs Zoro vs Robin. People tend to turn on some 1 in these type of tournaments, and yes he had to win according to the rules of the competition which still allowed for multiple ways of winning for any of the contestants without actually defeating or killing some1, like what Sabo did getting, and eating the fruit, but for DD, and Diamante to think no matter what circumstances were they would definitely win against people of similar level of ability, even after losing his 4 other crew members contributions, seems as not acknowledging the unpredictability of a match with said many ways to win. (And you realize in a way 'kill all other contestants' is much more easier in a tournament then 'do all sorts of sneaky loopholes, that every1 else might also be doing at the same time' but expect only your way to work. So needing to defeat them still might've been easier, in a way.)
So let me get this straight:
Once again "he spent most of the match tormenting Rebecca", and you assume he'll do differently? When facing the real Luffy? When till those ending points he thought it was the real Luffy?…
OK......?
Any things possible I guess, but that would really take some massively impressive showmanship " butterfly flapping it's wings on 1 side of the world causes tornado on other side of the world" type thinking to realistically have me believe that was possible.
Imagine if he'd started using the techniques he used against Kyros - the ground would be waving under them, there would be spiked steel balls raining from the sky, and he'd be gouging out large sections of the ring with his half moon glaive, while waving out of the way of any incoming attacks. I can see why Doflamingo would have such confidence in his abilities in the Colosseum.
Except that's assuming a whole lot with different opponents, and different circumstances. For 1 thing if Diamante couldn't stay fully standing easily from Sabo's attack, doubt his own attack would have been that damaging only to his opponents. He could easily also be caught in it winding up in the water. And for another thing there's the time it would take to set up those attacks, which might not work against multiple opponents, or even as fast moving opponents as Sabo or Luffy. Plus we've seen Luffy take piercing attacks from Krieg, fish men, Lucci, and Kizaru, I think he could easily take this attack, or easily dodging a la Hodi Jones water shots, ( hell even Rebecca could have been dodging), as well as Luffy counter attacking. While also yes Burgess, and or Bartolomeo could seemingly easily block.
@LUFFYSMC:
Say what you want about Bellamy, but you can't be serious about using that fight with Chinjao and Lao G as proof.
This is exactly why the double standard of "off- panel fights" makes very little sense. Diamante fighting this whole time against Off- panel for chapters against Kyros can be seen as impressive; yet Lao G fighting a very worn out previously within hours toyified, and head reforming defeated Chinjao off screen for chapters equals "barely doing anything against"? Something Lao G also started to transform for the guy 'barely doing anything against him'?
Even before the transformation, Lao G was having no problems against Chinjao. He had no visible injuries or even sweating.
Remember that Chinjao still had enough strength to destroy one of Pica's town-sized arms alongside Elizabello, even when supposedly worn out.
But the point is that having Haki does not mean you're suddenly going to defeat Hakiless people. Luffy at Amazon Lily was proof of that.
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@LUFFYSMC:
Nobody really says it's the "ultimate technique", but it definitely adds something "emphasis on Impactful" to them. ( Not counting VA's since I never really took them seriously). When looking at AL and the Skypean Priests looking at those fights they tended to be won by exceeding speed, teamwork, surprise thru numbers, or something with adding power/ force in varying degrees of CoA, or CoO separately, ( golden bell, Luffy captures while Sanji kicks, Zoro's 1st real 'flying attack', Gear 2nd speed exceeds theirs); just saying it seemed it also still really took an extra something to overcome the benefits that haki provides.
Again, Boo and Machvise. The latter literally defeated the former by only using his most basic attack.
@LUFFYSMC:
If we don't know when, or where, how, or what he's holding back, then we also don't know if he's truly holding back, or especially if he is in these circumstances specifically.
Except that he asked Doflamingo for permission to do so, and was told "no". And we know he's a loyal crew member of Doflamingo's. So, logically, he is not violating Doflamingo's orders, and is therefore, according to him, not acting as though he has free reign. Which means he is holding something back - something he apparently considers a "trump" move, capable of taking down even an admiral.
Once again "he spent most of the match tormenting Rebecca", and you assume he'll do differently? When facing the real Luffy? When till those ending points he thought it was the real Luffy?
Well, I'm guessing Luffy probably would have attacked him for tormenting Rebecca.
Except that's assuming a whole lot with different opponents, and different circumstances. For 1 thing if Diamante couldn't stay fully standing easily from Sabo's attack, doubt his own attack would have been that damaging only to his opponents. He could easily also be caught in it winding up in the water.
I have no idea what you're saying here, sorry.
And for another thing there's the time it would take to set up those attacks, which might not work against multiple opponents, or even as fast moving opponents as Sabo or Luffy.
I think you're misunderstanding how such moves would be used in the ring, and why he didn't use such moves in the match that actually occurred. He's the hero of the Colosseum, there to entertain the crowds through violence. He's there to put on a show, and that means he doesn't necessarily want to end things immediately. Plus, as you said, if you have 4 opponents watching you carefully, you aren't going to use slower attacks they might dodge or interrupt. Those are moves you wait to use until later stages of the battle, where you're ready to win, and when people are distracted by either each other, the fighting fish, or the fruit.
He was just standing around tormenting Rebecca because the crowd hated her; he wasn't in any hurry to win, he just wanted to make sure no one else did. If Luffy had been there rather than Sabo, though, he would have protected Rebecca and fought Diamante, who could have used his various weapons not to beat Luffy, but to get him out of bounds - and with his steel cape, ability to flagify himself to dodge attacks, and numerous hidden weapons and abilities, he might just have succeeded at that. Could he have beaten Luffy in a real 1v1 fight somewhere else? Of course not, but that wasn't the point; he just had to win in a competition where the rules (which he presumably set himself) were favorable to all his tricks, and that doesn't seem nearly so improbable. At worst, he'd be the evil super Foxy of the New World, and even Foxxy gave Luffy a challenging match, way back when.
Again, Boo and Machvise. The latter literally defeated the former by only using his most basic attack.
Boo actually provided us with an even better example: he imbued an axe with CoA, and yet did nothing to Bobby Funk's non-haki imbued body. Even with the use of haki, a sturdy body was enough to render all his hakiness useless.
all im saying is, if the Pica vs Zoro fight will only consist of:
1. Zoro looking for Pica
2. Zoro finds Pica
3. Zoro takes him out with 1 move
I will lose my mind. Dofla's crew, except for Pink, is a joke imo. Wait I forgot about Vergo and Monet. I like them as well. Everyone else sucks
Even Dellinger ?
It's not that they suck, but if they would be any stronger, they would rival a yonkou's crew, and I'm sure there are still some arcs until first one goes down.
The outside help SH got also shows they would not manage to defeat doflamingo alone.
If it wasn't for law to defeat Vergo, rest of the gladiators to defeat almost all executives and 1 seat(diamante), SH's journey could end here.
Could pica's ultimate technique be:
Step one: get Doffy and whomever from the family can he locate, and get them into a safe location, underground
Step two: make sure that the birdcage is still functional
Step three: submerge the island, until even the birdcage is underwater
Step four: resourface the island, clean of invaders, or inhabitants
That way not even someone who can fly would escape. It's a lot messier than just waiting for sugar to wake up, but desperate times take desperate measures, and it gives everyone something to do other than focus on Doflamingo, they have to focus on Pica, or drown. The turning point is when the factory is destroyed, and if Doffy will just fuck everything up to win.
About Pica's power working underwater, remember how Mr3 Powers still managed to protect him from being digested by the Bananadiles, he'll never be in direct contact with the water.
Could pica's ultimate technique be: Step one: get Doffy and whomever from the family can he locate, and get them into a safe location, underground Step two: make sure that the birdcage is still functional Step three: submerge the island, until even the birdcage is underwater Step four: resourface the island, clean of invaders, or inhabitants That way not even someone who can fly would escape. It's a lot messier than just waiting for sugar to wake up, but desperate times take desperate measures, and it gives everyone something to do other than focus on Doflamingo, they have to focus on Pica, or drown. The turning point is when the factory is destroyed, and if Doffy will just fuck everything up to win. About Pica's power working underwater, remember how Mr3 Powers still managed to protect him from being digested by the Bananadiles, he'll never be in direct contact with the water.
Probably just hide the family underground, while Doflamingo shrinks the birdcage, cutting everything in its way.
Probably just hide the family underground, while Doflamingo shrinks the birdcage, cutting everything in its way.
Also a posibility, but it puts the presure on defeating Doflamingo, not Pica. Also, if they try to sink the island first, then pica gets defeated, Doffy still can start to shrink the birdcage.
Also a posibility, but it puts the presure on defeating Doflamingo, not Pica. Also, if they try to sink the island first, then pica gets defeated, Doffy still can start to shrink the birdcage.
Sinking the island would be nice too. Only because I'd like to see Fujitora counter it.
Sinking the island would be nice too. Only because I'd like to see Fujitora counter it.
I'm sorry, Fujitora? Doing something?
He is a marine. They are incapable of doing anything positive succesfuly by their own volition. That has always been the case, and to expect it to change now is silly.
Don't forget he basically said he wasn't going to do anything bar preventing Sabo and the Revolutionaries from getting involved
Don't forget he basically said he wasn't going to do anything bar preventing Sabo and the Revolutionaries from getting involved
Not even that. If anything, his words can be interpreted as that he only needed that fight to create a justification for himself, and that he actually never intended any serious actions against them.
Even though most of the people in OP can either slash or smash metal, Rock-Type attacks have still more damage than Steel-Types.
My shot-in-the-dark guess is that Zoro will need Elizabello's help for Pica.
@Hamburger:
My shot-in-the-dark guess is that Zoro will need Elizabello's help for Pica.
Zoro is not the type who refuses help and then haves a second thought and call back.
Though given how messed up all the other good guys have been getting, I don't expect Pica to be a cakewalk.
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@uniaka:
It's not that they suck, but if they would be any stronger, they would rival a yonkou's crew, and I'm sure there are still some arcs until first one goes down.
The outside help SH got also shows they would not manage to defeat doflamingo alone.
If it wasn't for law to defeat Vergo, rest of the gladiators to defeat almost all executives and 1 seat(diamante), SH's journey could end here.
I think it's just the opposite really. Seeing other characters outside of the crew take care of Doflamingo's best men give me the impression that many of them aren't even worth the Straw Hat's time. I mean Oda took half the crew away from the island and now they are dealing with saga defining villains.
You have Franky and the General taking out Baby 5 and Buffalo at the same time, Law talking down to Doflamingo about being complacent, Hakuba destroying Block D and Dellinger only to be absolutely useless against Robin and much more. Sure Hadrudin took out Mach Vice, but wasn't Hadrudin a one hitter quitter when Luffy so much as looked at him? Doflamingo was the final War Lord to be dealt with(pre time skip) and it's basically been there done that for the Straw Hat's.
Now don't get me wrong all of the executives have shown some impressive feats and the seats have given a decent show as well but even if half the New World wasn't on Dressrosa the Straw Hat's would come through just has they always have.
I think it's just the opposite really. Seeing other characters outside of the crew take care of Doflamingo's best men give me the impression that many of them aren't even worth the Straw Hat's time. I mean Oda took half the crew away from the island and now they are dealing with saga defining villains.
You have Franky and the General taking out Baby 5 and Buffalo at the same time, Law talking down to Doflamingo about being complacent, Hakuba destroying Block D and Dellinger only to be absolutely useless against Robin and much more. Sure Hadrudin took out Mach Vice, but wasn't Hadrudin a one hitter quitter when Luffy so much as looked at him? Doflamingo was the final War Lord to be dealt with(pre time skip) and it's basically been there done that for the Straw Hat's.
Now don't get me wrong all of the executives have shown some impressive feats and the seats have given a decent show as well but even if half the New World wasn't on Dressrosa the Straw Hat's would come through just has they always have.
Thought about this myself and I think for this reason I'd like another "Straw Hats fail, then bounce back" arc like Water 7/Enies Lobby, which remains after all these years my favorite arc in the series. Did I expect Dressrosa to be that arc? Not really, but I still want one somewhere down the line.
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The article says "The Strongest Pirates Emerge." An emperor is going to show up. :ninja:
I think its talking about the local pirates in Dressrosa
would be cool to see kaido on the last page
MI DOs !
It would be cool if we would get 2 chapters in a row for the first time or maybe chapter will get 30 pages.
Would be a blast to get it in One Piece - Kyros vs Dia conclusion + Bellamy vs Luffy end and start of Doflamingo vs Luffy and Trebol vs S omebody :ninja:
Stronger pirates emerge= pirates that defeated Loflamingo's family, like zoro managed to beat Pica.
Sorry, no Kaidou.
@uniaka:
It's not that they suck, but if they would be any stronger, they would rival a yonkou's crew, and I'm sure there are still some arcs until first one goes down.
The outside help SH got also shows they would not manage to defeat doflamingo alone.
If it wasn't for law to defeat Vergo, rest of the gladiators to defeat almost all executives and 1 seat(diamante), SH's journey could end here.
luffy and zoro could've brunoed most of his crew members. Like dellinger, dude would've been one shotted. Vergo would've been a fight but zoro could've beaten him regardless. Haki can't block swords(or can it? idk, but zoro still would've won).