Odd. Maybe someone was messing up the sheet, so Noqanky, or whoever is in charge of it, locked anonymous editing? I'm logged into my Google account, so that might be why I can still edit it.
Nope, sheet is still open based on what I'm seeing. Idk what the problem was. Only thing I locked was the results form.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnndd, the results for this first round are set.
Keep in mind that a lot of weird complex math I don't quite understand went into these and that I did my best with the data provided. It was a bit hairy in that some people just didn't submit their results, and there was also a slight complication/unfairness with certain people having only one match in the entire round and that leading to higher ranking than people who played more matches (somehow), so if this is you, know that you still appear in the results but for the ranking stuff were given an N/A since there's just not enough data to justify giving a realistic ranking.
So pretty much, you'll need a reasonable amount of matches for the math to make sense, and just one won't cut it.
Anyway, I'm rambling so here's where you can take a look at results and some character data I compiled and wish to keep updating over the course of time.
Notes:
Now, I'm off to update the first post! Info on the next round and any updates to the rules will come as soon as my procrastination allows.
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My bad. I looked at the form and assumed that it would've been covered when the other person sent in info but I guess not
Haha, it's ok, only mostly affects the total losses for characters. As it is I don't mind the hilarity of Palutena and Lucina crowding 2nd and 3rd in every ranking.
Also, I sadly got the end of the page, so for the lazy folk here's my post with results and comments
Just in case.
OH YEA, and I do want to show my appreciation Purple, since I don't think any of this sort of ranking could have happened without your help. It looks mighty painful to deal with so I'm grateful you did it.
It's not much, but as a sign of thanks I went ahead and made you a new avatar, even though I haven't resized it. I think you'll like it
!
It's perfect. I'll put it on right away
Wait a second, there's something off about the character data. It doesn't add up for the third character to have just 5, from Ouroboros's victories alone.
Back to work … ok, I think it makes more sense now. Lucina seems to have nine victories while Robin came close with eight.
8-player Smash?! That's gloooorious!
Nerd Math for calculating ratings
[hide]In terms of Math, everyone started off with a base rating of 1000. Because of this being the first week or set of matches, each win would basically change your overall rating by 20 points because everyone has the same rating. This will change in the upcoming weeks because most everyone will have a different rating. Players like Uber-tier Panekai will find it more difficult to obtain points because the rating is higher, and losing on the flip side will detract more points if they lose to someone with a much lower rating than them, and vice versa. So it's very much possible for people with lower scores to jump higher, and with due diligence and practice, their efforts can be rewarded by snatching the top spots away… if anyone can even touch Panekai. I'd imagine some of you are familiar with the system used in Mario Kart 8, which I believe uses a similar system but exaggerates it so that it's possible to continue to amass points and to hit well over 10000 points online.
However, the reason why we decided to omit players who haven't played enough sets from an official ranking is that their rating is not reflective of time spent in the game. For example, having zero wins and two losses is too few data points, and this would result in a loss of only 40 points total and is otherwise unfair to players who have spent some time playing and have achieved some number of victories.
A separate method of calculating elo doesn't use your own personal rating but the average ratings of every player you play is how we calculate the weekly rating. Basically the formula's much easier to calculate out. It's average opponent rating + 400*win%. While it doesn't keep track of your skill over a period of time, it is an indicator of how well you performed during the time period, and it shows trends such as the oddities we saw when the data is skewed by having insufficient data points[/hide]
tl;dr Play a lot, practice a lot, and even if you're not doing too hot right now, even you can have a chance at becoming a rising star.
Yay, I'm 12th! gotta step it up I know I wasn't even on the radar guys, but I will try to do more matches. Also, slight error: it says October 20th, 2012 in the second box.
Congrats to Panekai for taking first!
Yay, I'm 12th! gotta step it up I know I wasn't even on the radar guys, but I will try to do more matches. Also, slight error: it says October 20th, 2012 in the second box.
You're ranked 12th because of circumstance, but really technically speaking you're unranked until you play a bunch more matches so that we can assign you an actual rank.
Congrats to Panekai for taking first!
Panekai is an absolute monster, and until we step up our tech game (or a divine wind of lag comes in to our benefit), I'd say he's got it pretty secured for awhile. His tech skill is just far above the rest of us.
@Purple:
You're ranked 12th because of circumstance, but really technically speaking you're unranked until you play a bunch more matches so that we can assign you an actual rank.
I'm sorry, school/work/Hyrule Warriors divides my time up pretty narrowly. Although the good thing is, starting November 1st, I will have more time on Saturday and Sunday to play!
Panekai is an absolute monster, and until we step up our tech game (or a divine wind of lag comes in to our benefit), I'd say he's got it pretty secured for awhile. His tech skill is just far above the rest of us.
Well I'll never make the top three then XD
Some people I haven't fought yet. Oh boy.
Well I'll never make the top three then XD
Not with that attitude you won't!
Some people I haven't fought yet. Oh boy.
Wellll that's like most everybody if my math checks out loll
@Purple:
Wellll that's like most everybody if my math checks out loll
Oh wait, you're talking about just For Glory.
…..I've only fought Noqanky. :O
so uh…how do prizes work exactly?
NNID: Panekai
so uh…how do prizes work exactly?
Short answer: it's in the first post
Actual answer: eShop stuff given to you as a code you can redeem
I was thinking though it might be wiser to have at least another round before prizes, because doing prizes per round might wind up costlier than planned since we do want to do 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
Next round should start at some point soooooooooon
I guess I will take my fifth play for now, better luck next time.. One another note, I coming for your head Panekai !
So right now I'm doing some work so I haven't crunched up any numbers yet but hey seems like a good time to make a post. Probs get some numbers up tonight.
First, thank you all for your input! For those who enjoyed the mii competition, that's fantastico. I heard there was some problems coordinating so expect a repeat of the theme when the wii u version comes out so that Foolio doesn't miss out
Second,
For Fun Week #2!!
FREE FOR ALL
-Any character you want any customs and equips you want
-All stages except FD and omegas
-Four Stocks, 10 minute time limit
-Items banned: Beetle, Boss Galaga, Gust Bellows, Drill (Because I'd say these are the least fun items for those caught by them)
This time around, it seems there was difficulty coordinating matches, so from now on, say your availability in this thread and jump on the IRC chat on Rizon at #APSmash to talk to anyone else available and set up matches. Matches can be from 2-4 players depending on who's around, three matches per set.
For those unfamiliar with IRC,
1. Go to https://kiwiirc.com/client
2. On the right hand column, select "Rizon"
3. Select a nickname
4. The channel to type in is #APSmash
Uhm, I'm going to specify that winners be the ones to record results and submit them. Also, Unlike For Glory, you can rechallenge people you've already fought. Just make sure all parties are aware of what's a set for the tourney and what's just a regular friendly match. So play a lot and have a lot of fun!
Oh right, and you have until Monday, November 3rd 11:59 PM EST to get this done
@Purple:
-Items banned: Beetle, Boss Galaga, Gust Bellows, Drill (Because I'd say these are the least fun items for those caught by them)
I've found the Ray Gun to be more dangerous than the Beetle and Drill.
The physics I've found have nerfed the ray gun's usefulness a lot. I haven't found any instance where ray gun spam has effectively killed anyone off stage
@Purple:
Stuff
Tried , it let me in but then says that the nickname I'm using is already being used, I tried to change the nickname and it's not change it.
How'd I end up dead center on the ranking list?… figured I'd be in the bottom 4.
Probably comes from the fact that I didn't get too many matches in total. Gotta step that up next time. I'm not good, but I'm no quitter lol.
Ok, so, I just went ahead and added ALL of the people on the spreadsheet who had Nintendo Network IDs to my Wii U Friend List.
Everyone who wants to SMASH Come November 21st, plz accept.
Switch Friend Code: SW-1795-2519-1884 • Click Here to check out my Twitch Channel
How'd I end up dead center on the ranking list?… figured I'd be in the bottom 4.
Probably comes from the fact that I didn't get too many matches in total. Gotta step that up next time. I'm not good, but I'm no quitter lol.
Ok, so, I just went ahead and added ALL of the people on the spreadsheet who had Nintendo Network IDs to my Wii U Friend List.
Everyone who wants to SMASH Come November 21st, plz accept.
I'll add you back as soon as I get to my Wii U ^^
Ok, next round is set!
For Glory: The Pre-Mid-Sequel!
OCTOBER 28 - NOVEMBER 7
Rules
Sets of three matches (best two out of three)
3-Stock
8-Minute time limit
No items
No equipment
Custom movesets allowed <–-- Please make sure that these are allowed if you're hosting a room.
Ties
Sudden Death will not count in determining the victor(or victoria) of a match. Instead, the person with the highest number of stocks and lowest percentage (if stocks are the same) wins.
Stages
First Pick legal
Battlefield
Final Destination + Omega
Arena Ferox
Prism Tower
Counterpicks
Yoshi's Island
Tomodachi Life
Reset Bomb Forest
Gaur Plain
Mute City
Brinstar
… Now Featuring
Jungle Japes
N's Castle
NEW FEATURE
If you ban a counterpick stage you get an extra stage ban for free! This is to account for a larger counterpick list than before. (Limited to one per user per match, offer valid until 11/07/2014)
The Fine Print (copypastad from last tournament)
! Rule breaking, Lag, and other issues
Lag is potentially one of the more problematic situations for us given the fact it can happen to anyone, it can happen at any time, and there is no cure.
However, we can work together to prevent it. If in the middle of a match try to minimize potential disruption as much as possible, such as streaming twitch and having netflix on your phone while playing.
If it happens during a match in a way it arguably affects the outcome, sadly there is nothing we can really do about it since I'm not entirely sure if the replay includes lag and I really doubt it does given how it works. Also, it is not the fault of the player. However, if you do know that you are experiencing terrible lag for w.e. reason, we ask that you let the other players know and maybe try at a different time.
If disconnected early during a match or mid-match we encourage that the match is replayed under the same conditions. That means the same stage, same characters.
If disconnected near the end of a match or in a match with lopsided standings (eg. one person has 3 stocks and the other has one stock and 90% damage) we advice that match is counted and the next match takes place. Of course, notice these are more than anything suggestions because we can't control all extremes.
! That said, if you fear foul play, particularly during high-steak (mm, steak) matches near the end, you may request that a third party monitor the match by joining and then SDing. People you may ask for this include myself, Purple Hermit, and Demon Rin. If you're not participating in For Glory but would like to volunteer this service and have reliable Wi-Fi speeds, please let me know so I can include you in this list.
! If you see or suspect that anyone breaks the rules, by doing things such as (but not limited to): picking a banned stage, exhibiting behavior that implies equipment on a character (no way Ganondorf is THAT fast), not turning off items, etc., then MAKE SURE TO SAVE THE VIDEO and let us know what the situation is. Keep in mind that if the other person challenges your claim the video will be the main source of evidence.
Players who are found breaking rules by ill intent will be forbidden from further participation in the current tournament and, depending on the time frame, may also be excluded from the following tournament. If in the top range of players, this includes forfeiting any prize the player may have earned. Smash ain't no joke!
! Submitting Results
When the tournament officially begins, I will put up a google doc for you guys to submit results so we can use Purple's math and get to ranking everything.
! Determining winners
At the conclusion of this series (November 7th) we will announce the top participants.
Regarding future tournaments!
The next tournament will tentatively take place from November 10th up until the release of Smash Bros for the Wii U in November 21st.
Following that tournament will be the first set of prizes and awards. More information will be sent to winners at that time.
Once the Wii U version releases, we will go into another break to allow people to adjust to the new stages, as well as to give Wii U newcomers a chance to get acquainted with the characters and catch up with unlocking challengers and custom moves. At that point we will find a way to accomodate players of both versions to make sure everyone can participate regardless of which version they have.
As usual, if you have any questions let me know! Feel free to discuss, have fun, yadda yadda
Yay! a new pre-mid-sequel so we can all share in the joy of getting our asses kicked by Panekai!
@Purple:
Yay! a new pre-mid-sequel so we can all share in the joy of getting our asses kicked by Panekai!
We just have to pull a Nintendo and bring Ness down
I made myself sad
All aboard the SS Panekai!
! For those of you who don't get the joke, Meta Knight in Brawl was so overpowered compared to everyone else that he got his own special rank on the tier list: SS
! Hence some people joked "all aboard the SS Meta Knight!"
Ooh, we're starting again. Im up for games right now if anyone else is.
NNID: Panekai
Ooh, we're starting again. Im up for games right now if anyone else is.
I'm up for the challenge. Let me start this round by getting my ass kicked again. But then again, does this match count? The second round starts tomorrow.
I'm up for the challenge. Let me start this round by getting my ass kicked again.
Don't worry. I'm sure you'll be fine after I SD off the stage a few times
I'm up for the challenge. Let me start this round by getting my ass kicked again. But then again, does this match count? The second round starts tomorrow.
Sorry for the wait. I was planning on making it count, yeah.
NNID: Panekai
Sorry for the wait. I was planning on making it count, yeah.
Oh that's fine. You want to go for a few rounds anyways?
Oh that's fine. You want to go for a few rounds anyways?
So you don't want an official match then?
NNID: Panekai
So you don't want an official match then?
Eh, it doesn't matter to me if it's official or not. I'm guaranteed to get my ass kicked, but let's see if I can just record the first 2-3 matches.
Well, whenever it is you guys want to make it official, here's the results form for this round. Technically it can count since it's tomorrow for Ouro and I failed to specify a start time @_@
Will update the first post to link it as well.
Actually it's still the 27th in my time, so round 2 hasn't begun for me yet.
Oh it is? Nevermind then xD
I thought for some reason you were EST. Oh well, it forced me to make the form and not procrastinate!
Oh you're making weekly forms? I was just gonna recycle the old form because it includes timestamps of submittals
@Purple:
Oh you're making weekly forms? I was just gonna recycle the old form because it includes timestamps of submittals
I figured it would allow for easier navigation when looking at records. I also kind of … um, might have fucked around with the results spreadsheet of the old one to jot down notes and make things easier to read in a way that adding more stuff would have made things not fun.
One of these days… i'm gonna figure out how the hell to use shulk.
NNID: Panekai
One of these days… i'm gonna figure out how the hell to use shulk.
…I'm not quite sure what to think of this.
One of these days… i'm gonna figure out how the hell to use shulk.
NO! YOU'LL GET IT TODAY!
i'm really feeling it
Ban Panekai :ninja:
Very good games oro. Those were quite fun. With a hint of silliness on the side. Actually a lot. Fun times.
NNID: Panekai
Very good games oro. Those were quite fun. With a hint of silliness on the side. Actually a lot. Fun times.
I think that was about 4 hours of straight 1v1s between us. Really intense, and equally fun as well. I think it's rather of scary you're beating my mains with non mains. Anyways, great games tonight.
Question: it's just For Fun rankings or what you have right now? A new For Glory cycle didn't start yet?
EDIT: Whoops, didn't read first post. Also, Noqanky, you may have beaten my Wii Fit Trainer, but Rosalina shall prove differently!
Next week I'll get a better internet connection and a new router…Hopefully I can battle you guys then
To you, and to everyone who wants a Fighter Profile Sig, I am the one making them for everyone.
Go Here. Follow the directions in my post, I will have one made for you tonight.
Hey Demon Rin, can i get one of those sigs?
Username (is this Apforums name or NNID or does smash let you change your username?): Black-Leg Jex
FC: 3265-5041-9013
NNID: Josh
For Fun & For Glory
Black Yoshi
Blue Midriff Zero Suit Samus
Tiki Lucina
Hey Demon Rin, can i get one of those sigs?
Username (is this Apforums name or NNID or does smash let you change your username?): Black-Leg Jex
FC: 3265-5041-9013
NNID: Josh
For Fun & For Glory
Black Yoshi
Blue Midriff Zero Suit Samus
Tiki Lucina
The Name is WHATEVER name you want to appear on the nameplate in the upper left hand corner of the Profile Image. It can be whatever you want. Your Username at AP is a possibility, or if you want to use it elsewhere as well, you can pick something else like Noqanky did.
A few questions tho: 1: What color do you want the actual nameplate to be? Look at mine. Behind the "Demon Rin", the nameplate is Red. what color do you want yours?
2: Your NNID is the User ID people can punch into the Wii U to add you to their friends list. Are you sure yours is Josh? For example, my name shows as Chelsea on my Wii U, but my NNID is actually "DemonRin".
3: Got Black Yoshi, I assume This is Middriff Samus… What is Tiki Lucina?
Answer those for me so I get it right, but no matter what, I got you. I'll have it done today.
Switch Friend Code: SW-1795-2519-1884 • Click Here to check out my Twitch Channel
The Name is WHATEVER name you want to appear on the nameplate in the upper left hand corner of the Profile Image. It can be whatever you want. Your Username at AP is a possibility, or if you want to use it elsewhere as well, you can pick something else like Noqanky did.
A few questions tho: 1: What color do you want the actual nameplate to be? Look at mine. Behind the "Demon Rin", the nameplate is Red. what color do you want yours?
2: Your NNID is the User ID people can punch into the Wii U to add you to their friends list. Are you sure yours is Josh? For example, my name shows as Chelsea on my Wii U, but my NNID is actually "DemonRin".
3: Got Black Yoshi, I assume This is Middriff Samus… What is Tiki Lucina?Answer those for me so I get it right, but no matter what, I got you. I'll have it done today.
Ah ok. I'll have black-leg jex then in the top left and dark blue background please.
My NNID is actually: blacklegjex
That is the right samus And tiki lucina is the green haired but red clothes lucina (the 5th one)
I want to believe too big guy3ds code friend:0404-6254-1866
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