@SpaceCowboy:
Only an idiot would buy your story without any concrete evidence.
Place yourself in our spot and you will realize the reasons for our distrust.
Do you not believe in joint-wins? IF our win condition was simply "convert everyone" a joint-win would be dumb. All we'd have to do is lay low and stay alive long enough to convert whoever's left. For goodness sake, we could just semi-lurk and that would be enough to convert most players. But, we have a condition, all Mafia has to die.
IF our win-condition was only converting Town would outting ourselves make sense?
No, because we'd be neutral or work with the Mafia. Mafia kills Townies, no point in revealing our roles to the Town.
Also, how can i be 100% sure a cyborg is the same as a town and not considered "not-town" for game winning effects?
trappedolphin has been killed. She was a Cyborg Doctor(blue=Townie). Once per night she could select a target- that target would be protected from being night-killed.__xasjjx has been mod-killed. He was a Vanilla Townie(blue=Townie). He had no special abilities. They won when all threats to Town were eliminated -and- at least one Townie remained alive.
Have you ever wondered that, instead of role blocking one of you, they can protect one of use from conversition (which would get bypassed by 2 of you converting someone)?
Are you saying the Mafia has an ability to mess with us? Wouldn't that make them and us ENEMIES?
Does the Town have any anti-Robot killing ability? Wouldn't someone had come forth already or at least USED THEIR ABILITY ON ME OR FOOLIO?
@benjamminbrown:
I already said that the much simpler explanation is that trapped was a Doctor before you guys touched her. I will not believe that you are turning some of your targets into Doctors. That's just dumb, Foolio.
You got an ability and yet doubt someone else can? Did you not read Trapped's confirmation on Harvady? She said it was a little different but the basic premise was the same.
@benjamminbrown:
You said "cyborg" first, and you're bulletproof. Why would I assume that you are just cyborgs if the alterations you are doing are turning people into cyborgs? Of course, the bulletproof party making cyborgs would be robots themselves.
A robot is non-biological. A cyborg is part human/part machine. You are a cyborg.
@Holygamer999:
Sooo… im not going to read all of this. Can someone give me the short version?
This Town is doomed.
@benjamminbrown:
It makes a lot more sense if you think as I do: That you are not safe, that you are considered a "threat" to the town.
If you finish altering all of the townies before we kill the Mafia, then when we DO kill the Mafia, you all have automatically won. I want to make sure that you don't convert everyone in town before we finish off the Mafia. Just in case you ARE a threat.
YES! DAMN IT, YES! That is 100% correct!!!!!!
And guess what?
THE TOWN WINS TOO!
Again, don't you think a Townie would have an anti-Third-party ability? Don't you think they would've used it? Goodness sake, if we were a true threat wouldn't we be afraid of that happening and not out ourselves?
@SpaceCowboy:
Also, if you really have nothing to hide and Nectar´s eventual lynch shows that what you claimed all along was truth, then there is 0 reasons for your 3rd member to stay in the shadows from the towns perspective.
I guess he would be blocked by the mafia or something, but we will discuss this later.
Discuss later? You're throwing away poor man's Cops and you want to worry about it later?
Think about what you are doing Town, THINK.
-Mafia wants us dead.
-Trapped, the smartest player in this game, had our back and was killed.
-No Third-party related ability for Town.
-Converted Townie gaining abilities and keeping alignment.
What is a threat?
-A group reducing your group's players to win.
-A group with a win condition that doesn't match your group.
We don't kill! We don't change alignments!
We win when the Mafia dies. We win when Townies are cyborgs. PLEASE tell me how we can possibly win without the Town willing?