Now we get to Day 5. This one is meatier than the others so hang tight and stay with me.
You're welcome.
So you're taking a stab at a player
for not making cases?
I'm stabbing at someone who is clear. The act in and of itself is foreign. It was a good way to gauge his standing. People have had this habit of not talking about me in this game. (Thanks for breaking that, by the way.)
The only actual case that you made up to this point on your own was on Sky. The Tyranno vote was a wagon jump and the Outerspec Gala was a mauling stab in the dark at best.
You're talking about me. I'm talking about him. My pushing of xasjjx is still valid. If you are calling me hypocritical, then it would be at this point. My reasoning for speaking before making my cases is because it wouldn't allow me to address xasjjx in good time.
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Meaning?
A handful about gotchas.
Trying to set town on the right track.
At least three under 4 sentences.
Responding to direct questions and clarifications.
One actual case that you didn't even try to stick to.
I assume you mean you, but by the time I was allowed to post again, you were a unCC'd Mason.
Another a random hit and run.
They're called Gambits for a reason. I'm assuming Outerspec here.
And the last one a wagon jump even though you claim wagon jumps are baseless and lazy.
Is this Tyrano? I've stated previous that there's a difference between jumping and completing.
Three lynch votes in the entirety of the game so far- one of which you retracted and another you didn't even commit to till near the very end out of necessity.
For Kaitouu, I was against the people who were on his wagon. All four of the non-cleared were on his wagon at one point. There was evidence to suspect that he was being excessively pushed.
Which you also seem to be against, ironically.
That's your opinion.
No, Harvy. You voted out of necessity. Unlike 'other people' you did not stick to your opinion. Having one doesn't make the difference Harvy- acting on it does. The change to Tyrano was sudden, and you barely even attempted to give a case to back it. All you did was ask him short, vague questions when the lynch was already as good as sealed. You were just making it look like you had input so you could attempt to cover your wagon jump later- but you aren't fooling me.
You say change, but I assume you aren't talking about votes, but rather suspicion. I've already said that Kinasky was cleared before I could make a proper post. I completed that wagon because it was necessary FOR TOWN. You look at my vote without context to anyone else.
You say I'm guilty based on actions that are not conducive to helping the mafia, but only myself. I am the only mafia? Were Shuhan and Tyrano just decoration? You say I voted Tyrano 'begrudgingly', when I could have just sat back and watch him get away. You say it's interesting that I didn't show up for Outerspec's lynch, when I could have voiced my objections for more town credibility. You say acting on one's suspicions is what 'other people' have done, when everyone who is left have not instigated a wagon until eight people have died. Clears included.
Unless you can prove to me that it didn't happen, yes. I think that it is perfectly plausible for two of Tyrano's buddies to have offed him to make themselves look good. And I certainly don't put something so hairbrained and specific beyond you.
If you want to ignore the more sensible scenario to justify your suspicions based on how I play IN OTHER GAMES, then that's your decision.
Why is this necessary Harvy. Why do you even have to say this. It's unecessary comments like this that really give me scum vibes about you. This is talking in circles- grasping at straws hoping one will be long enough to pull you out of your twisted web.
I am goading Sky and Habaneroo into pushing a case. It's no different from what I said to xasjjx.
This, to me, is trying too hard. What job, Harvy? What have you actually done up to this particular point? Talk yourself in knots? Randomly attack innocents? Waste time with confounded mind games? Contradict yourself? Make lists?
Again, this is provocation. But I can't deny that his passive stance is inappropriate (to me, anyway). It's bad enough that the only people left alive are clears that don't have much to say. Town can still lose this game by being absent. If neither Sky nor xasjjx showed up, we'd lose our numbers advantage with a NL.
I'm going to have to agree to his sentiments on this one- but I will say this. Harvy- you have a certain…prescence. From previous games I can tell you, you're often easier to follow than you are to confront- at least in my experience.
Flattery will get you everywhere. But seriously, if we speak with the assumption that I am mafia, then these townies would have nothing. They don't want to push me so…that's it? They lose? No. They'd go into some last stand and take the fight to me. You are afraid of what, exactly? That they'll roll over and die?
First of all- that lynch was very rushed and very petty– though you actually did have some basis behind why you suspected him, so I can give it a little more of a pass. For now.
I pressure voted and everyone who isn't clear jumped on. That was so obvious that I was only going to get back on if we couldn't finish a different wagon. The only clear on the wagon didn't even say if she thought it was right.
My main issue with this post is under that spoiler.
And my God is it staged. That just reeks of flowery acting. I mean- to what end did you even post that? What does it get you - a cookie? Are you just showing off? Why? And the line "my obvious town-itude" is so painfully forced it….it almost makes me wonder if you did it on purpose.
Which starts a whoooole different batch of worries.
But for now I don't have enough backing for that, so i'll leave it. The birds are getting louder outside anyway.
Hey…that's meant for the mafia. Don't read it...
You jumped off the Kaitouu wagon. You gave a reason, sure- but then the lynch went through and he flipped town. That felt…all too planned to me. Push a little possibility in the faces of the other players- the start pushing the wagon down the hill and then you jump off right before the bottom. That way when it comes down to it, you can't be blamed.
This again. You are compounding evidence with fearful supposition and drawing conclusions based on meta. This is the sentiment that makes other people vote me, not anything else. Because they can't prove it, it must be true.
In the entirety of the game you have made a lynch attempt thrice. You have only gone through with it once so far.
…and I was right. Funny how that makes me guilty, instead of town. Which is bad, because I'm town.