The guy is strong, it wasn't effortlessly, his Dragon Breath was probably his strongest move.
I think it was effortlessly, i mean, he didn't even use the pipe.
The pipe is supposed to be his main weapon.
The guy is strong, it wasn't effortlessly, his Dragon Breath was probably his strongest move.
I think it was effortlessly, i mean, he didn't even use the pipe.
The pipe is supposed to be his main weapon.
People really underestimate the Admirals, they are the Marine's strongest force, I don't think that there are that many people in the world that could take them down in a 1 vs 1.
I can agree with that.
Calling it now! Luffy is going to get around Doffy's string control using armament balloon! Busoshoku Coka Fuusen!
Bellamy is going to join Barto's crew eventually. DD is too much of a bastard for redemption.
I don't think so. If rebecca did it, I think people would be pretty pissed, but not like if Sabo did (or burgess). I mean, based on him being on par with ace when they were kids, you can assume that he's got same potential as ace and it's not surprising that he could handle such standard move like hiken on first try. If you're referring to tashigi who couldn't do the same back in PH with smokey's body, I'd say Tashigi was just not in Sabo's level of strength (both physical and mental, and potential) to handle things like logia fruit that fast.
Lmao, forget the dude, he should go watch/read Sailor Moon… This is ONEPIECE! No place for weak oppenents in the new world.
Bird Cage… maybe strings that disect the whole island, formed initially around it like a bird cage and then pulling in together?
Some of the translation here seemed wierd... for example, Bart saying it's not fair, he could have just used a barrier... that seems contradictory to itself
Usopp starting off calling them idiots didn't quite make sense either (they heard "People" i think)
Sabo not using the pipe is equally to Sentoumaru not using the axe while fighting Luffy back in Sabaody.
Sabo's obviously a giant lot more strong, and now with the Mera Mera…
Just how strong might Dragon be?
@DEE:
Lmao, forget the dude, he should go watch/read Sailor Moon… This is ONEPIECE! No place for weak oppenents in the new world.
When a villain will have a significant win, then you can say that.
so..as predicted,no "law save doflamingo" because he was indeed chained with kairoseki,no pica clone because this is not naruto…but something of even more ridicolous,nobody save doflamingo,he is still alive
oh,and also law confirms in luffy's face that the alliance is over ^^
even though we know luffy is and will not be ok with this
Epic chapter! Sabo's face finally revealed, who got the fruit finally shown (Sabo again :P). It might be nice way to show how each person can use the fruit differently. Sabo used same attack, but maybe in the future he will use some personalized attackes like creating fire dragon etc ?
Barto got pushed around, kinda sad, but he still comes out of it unscathed and complaining, kinda cool :D
So we still don't know how Doffly is alive… He didn't reform on his own so him being logia is probably out of the question. Pika came for him, which was quite obvious since he dissapeared from the fight vs Zoro. But that doesn't confirm stone substitute jutsu theory either i think :P So what, is he some kind of robot/puppet? Or maybe there's still some string connecting his head with a body and that's all that he needs to stay alive?
So a bit dissapointing that Doffla mystery wasn't revealed yet, but chapter was still EPIC, so it's cool :)
Oh and that Usop pulling a "Buggy" :D Funny how even Cavendish looked up to him. And he made another giant friend ;] I wonder how much he got closer to his foretold 1000 followers :P little people + former toys must give quite a number. Would be epic and funny if word spread around Usopp giving him quite a fame and possible big bounty increase.
sure it was.was not he supposed to be one legged former admiral after the duel with Akainu?
He has one leg, the other leg is made of ice.
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People really underestimate the Admirals, they are the Marine's strongest force, I don't think that there are that many people in the world that could take them down in a 1 vs 1.
Now I think you're overestimating them. We are in the New World. And there's a reason why it's governed by pirates, specifically the Yonkous. The strength of the admirals is definitely absolute outside the NW but it's a different story now. Admirals being the Marines' strongest do not translate to them not going down at some point. At this point of the story, I do not mind Fuji or any admiral to go down as a Yonkou is also bound to get defeated soon.
Sabo not using the pipe is equally to Sentoumaru not using the axe while fighting Luffy back in Sabaody.
Sabo's obviously a giant lot more strong, and now with the Mera Mera…
Just how strong might Dragon be?
i actually want dragon to be weak. being able to gather the revolutionaries simply by his charisma and leadership. do we have a char like this in one piece? a weak leader/captain? not counting buggy cause he got his crew due to some misunderstanding.
Cool chapter, fire fruit might have gotten solved a little too fast for my taste, but illl take that over a long drawn out version of it.
I've never been that big a fan of Sabo, but i knew he was alive from the start, good to see him around.
And.. I add… become 2nd commander doesn't mean Sabo is 3rd strongest RA, such as Ace not stronger than Jozu and Teach. Sabo can become a 2nd commander because Dragon like his personality (Ch 586) , such as Ace become 2nd because WB like him. I feel Sabo become 2nd commander occured after time-skip because Sabo are not as strong as now on 2 years ago (Ch. 731).
Ace became 2nd commander because that position was open not because WB likes him. Like WB said, he like all his son equally.
this reason why mingo isn't die
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Fantastic chapter, i liked how fast Sabo eat the fruit.This is how you do things you act immediatly not spend 1 chapter with the fruit aproaching his mouth then in the next chapter someone steals it.
mmmm
#what is diamante's fruit?
#where is zoro? if pica in the royal palace!
he's a flagman, anything he touches turns to flag like substance and flaps with the wind, so he probably touched himself. A lot of touching oneself isn't good.
i actually want dragon to be weak. being able to gather the revolutionaries simply by his charisma and leadership. do we have a char like this in one piece? a weak leader/captain? not counting buggy cause he got his crew due to some misunderstanding.
Are you kidding? Leader earning their place because of actual competence, charisma, and earnig respect of his enemies because of the way he plans and not being able to take them all on? That would be… original.
In what kind of crazy world you live in?
i actually want dragon to be weak. being able to gather the revolutionaries simply by his charisma and leadership. do we have a char like this in one piece? a weak leader/captain? not counting buggy cause he got his crew due to some misunderstanding.
I don't think we have any character like that, nope.
He is not even out of breath. After fighting Commander of the fricking Blackbeard pirates. He managed to snatch the fruit, while both Burgess and Diamante, both of which have long range attacks, and are experienced combatants, just decided to gape, while Sabo destroys the ring, takes the Mera Mera, eats it, uses it succesfully, and lands completly unharmed, and not threatened at any point.
Eight pages. It took eight pages.
So you know what, I'm going to call this out. This was way too easy, and has marking of making Sabo creators pet, when every other person in this arc put so much struggle to accomplish anything.
This same BB commanders that was no match for Ace two years ago and Sabo was equally strong as Ace in young days, so naturally it will be stupid if Burgess can equally clash with Sabo.
@Da:
Now I think you're overestimating them. We are in the New World. And there's a reason why it's governed by pirates, specifically the Yonkous. The strength of the admirals is definitely absolute outside the NW but it's a different story now. Admirals being the Marines' strongest do not translate to them not going down at some point. At this point of the story, I do not mind Fuji or any admiral to go down as a Yonkou is also bound to get defeated soon.
You do realize that all of the pirates at Marineford were New World pirates, and strong one at that? With the strongest Yonkou crew? And yet not one Admiral went down?
Calling it now! Luffy is going to get around Doffy's string control using armament balloon! Busoshoku Coka Fuusen!
Bellamy is going to join Barto's crew eventually. DD is too much of a bastard for redemption.
Sorry too late, called that about a month ago.
This same BB commanders that was no match for Ace two years ago and Sabo was equally strong as Ace in young days, so naturally it will be stupid if Burgess can equally clash with Sabo.
Cause obviously he had no growth over timeskip. Yeah. Of course. How could I forget. Only Straw Hats are allowed to get stronger. No one else.
Seriously.
i actually want dragon to be weak. being able to gather the revolutionaries simply by his charisma and leadership. do we have a char like this in one piece? a weak leader/captain? not counting buggy cause he got his crew due to some misunderstanding.
16 chars of Usopp?
@Da:
Now I think you're overestimating them. We are in the New World. And there's a reason why it's governed by pirates, specifically the Yonkous. The strength of the admirals is definitely absolute outside the NW but it's a different story now. Admirals being the Marines' strongest do not translate to them not going down at some point. At this point of the story, I do not mind Fuji or any admiral to go down as a Yonkou is also bound to get defeated soon.
Garp says hi.
He on his prime used to fight Roger all the time. Wasn't Roger the strongest pirate? :ninja:
This same BB commanders that was no match for Ace two years ago and Sabo was equally strong as Ace in young days, so naturally it will be stupid if Burgess can equally clash with Sabo.
Can you believe i said this over and over and people's answer was on the line of : "Yeah maybe Burgess trained harder in these years so he's stronger"
Thank you, now i have faith again.
yessss! Does this mean that finally, finally, the Mera Mera thread can retire???
….um anyway-
Chaos has begun, starting with the tournament. The ring is destroyed, and while the other challengers are in the confusion, Sabo grabs the fruit and eats it! Holy......and he escapes with Rebecca! Finally this irritating issue is solved! A bit fast....yes. But if someone had to eat it, Sabo seemed like a fair choice. Certainly more fitting than Rebecca, Sanji, and freaking Coby. And he finally reveals his adult self! And the official reveal that Koala and Hack are part of the revolutionaries.
Gaaah......I'm dying for the proper Luffy-Sabo reintroduction scene.
Meanwhile chaos has spread to the toy factory, where all the former toys have rebelled. Oh ho, Trebol is definitely screwed. Oda, I swear, if you give me the proper Robin vs. Trebol fight, I am willing, for the most part, to.....disregard this whole Usopp business. Speaking of, it seems he really has amassed his 8000 followers, Buggy-style.
For the icing on the cake, Luffy and Viola speed over to rescue Law, but he refuses. What's more, Doflamingo is alive (no shit), and announces his "bird cage" technique. Now, Law is scared......wow, what's the plan here.
Maybe it's my elation from the smash bros news spreading here, but I couldn't help but really like this chapter.
That was pure perfection. How can this manga be so good?!
Looks like Law flashback is very close.I am tired of him.
i actually want dragon to be weak. being able to gather the revolutionaries simply by his charisma and leadership. do we have a char like this in one piece? a weak leader/captain? not counting buggy cause he got his crew due to some misunderstanding.
wake up dude. Garp his father was a monster, his son another monster and Dragon will be weak? Lol still don't understand one piece.
This not Spandaman and his weak dad.
Why would Sabo fight Issho in the first place?
I was also thinking the same thing.
People are imagining way too much to pit Sabo and our God, Fujitora, in match that would settle who's more powerful!
Cause obviously he had no growth over timeskip. Yeah. Of course. How could I forget. Only Straw Hats are allowed to get stronger. No one else.
Seriously.
Sabo also had a growth.
I think that Birdcage is Doflamingos top technique with his string string fruit that will cut off entire island from contact with world and nobody would be able to escape without KOing Doflamingo.
Yeah that sounds like it could be it, hot damn. Nice going.
He has one leg, the other leg is made of ice.
i know this.so how can he sit and bend his knee?the ice would break
Sabo used haki in opening the locked chest?!
What material the chest was made of for him to use such means?
Sabo also had a growth.
Really? So he is stronger then Pre-Timeskip Ace without having any fruit?
That's what I mean when I say he is a Sue.
What makes you think Ace didn't know about Sabo? Sabo even used Ace attack the same name meaning he probably met with Ace after Ace ate his fruit.
Ace death speech showed more than clearly, that he hasn't known it… at least in my opinion. but maybe nit is a fucked up trans and Aohige will make it clear
Are you kidding? Leader earning their place because of actual competence, charisma, and earnig respect of his enemies because of the way he plans and not being able to take them all on? That would be… original.
In what kind of crazy world you live in?
i really dont know whether this is a sarcasm or not :blink:
I don't think we have any character like that, nope.
that's why we need one and a big one at that.
i have this similar wish that there will be a pirate crew where the captain is never known to all and actually the captain is disguise himself as one of the (weak) crew member. so the marines like looking for the leader/captain of this pirate crew while the very person they're looking for is actually under their nose the whole time, disguised as a lowest bounty member (like chopper or nami).
And how exactly would Haki enhance flames?
For that matter, it was already established that Magu Magu no Mi is superior to Mera Mera no Mi. It's not Naruto, you can't simply break rules cause.
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That's not much of plan now, is it?
Also, I expect Akainu marines to be able to take down one Yonkou at the time. From what I've seen so far, revolutionaries don't seem nearly as strong as marines at the moment. Conflict with even one Yonkou would be disasterous for them. Which might happen, considering Burgess...
The revolutionaries are opposing the World Government, not bothering themselves with the 4 Emperors, and i really doubt BB is gonna go after em just because Burgess failed to get Ace's fruit.
I Call it now ! I Know now what's a BIRDCAGE is in our situation.
! Peeka will Merge with Mingo. Peeka will turn into a Cube looking room, and Mingo will use the strings Just like this:
But I really hope Zoro saves the day.. I want him to shoot Peeka in the head in the first page of the next chapter. Like, NO M-ODA*uckin' time to breath.
Because otherwise…. THIS IS NON SENSE! :
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Really? So he is stronger then Pre-Timeskip Ace without having any fruit?
That's what I mean when I say he is a Sue.
He's probably equal to what Ace would be if he was alive. Which is a lot.
Awesome Hajrudin is awesome. Awesome Colosseum gladiators are awesome. Awesome Sabo is awesome. Awesome chaos is awesome. Awesome Kyros is awesome. Awesome chapter is awesome.
Yep.
The only thing missing in this chapter is… A last panel of Sanji standing like a boss on the Sunny... And in the BG you see the sinking Big Mom ship
Maybe it's my elation from the smash bros news spreading here, but I couldn't help but really like this chapter.
I feel the same :P
Damn, what a great chapter. Glad that I managed to avoid looking at the raw in the spoiler thread despite the strong temptation. Sabo is looking mighty fine.
To those who are saying that Sabo ate the fruit hastily, remember that we didn't even know the conversation between Luffy and Sabo. They might've agreed upon that Sabo will eat the fruit as soon as he gets his hands on it.
i really dont know whether this is a sarcasm or not :blink:
That was sarcasm, yes. I would really much like Dragon turning out to be like that. And sarcasm was meant at people constantly saying that Dragon needs to be impossibly strong.
I agree with that. Sabo's an awesome character and him eating the fruit doesn't nullifie his personality and his past as a kid.
Too much hate.
As awesome as Sabo is… Am I the only one missing his old hair?
wake up dude. Garp his father was a monster, his son another monster and Dragon will be weak? Lol still don't understand one piece.
This not Spandaman and his weak dad.
that's called a twist and oda is very good with twists. you can also say your point without being a douche. not gonna play your game here.
That was sarcasm, yes. I would really much like Dragon turning out to be like that. And sarcasm was meant at people constantly saying that Dragon needs to be impossibly strong.
glad you agree
i want him to be someone like sengoku, but less powerful.
As awesome as Sabo is… Am I the only one missing his old hair?
me too. his new hair is kinda too similiar to ace's. i dunno whether oda do that on purpose or not. that's a gamble. some people like sabo taking ace's role, some doesnt really like sabo to be ace v.02
I hope the Birdcage has some something to do with Luffy being a vessel.