was it ever stated the reason why kinemon has a vendetta against dragons
http://mangasee.com/manga/?series=OnePiece&chapter=682&index=1&page=17
was it ever stated the reason why kinemon has a vendetta against dragons
http://mangasee.com/manga/?series=OnePiece&chapter=682&index=1&page=17
About Oda having designs on early Nami (saw it on tumblr), he probably thought it through and hit a dead end with it. Since this was brought up, I'll just go ahead with it (sorry). In my opinion, Nami dresses the way she does because Bellemere, her foster mother was a "I'll do anything I want" type of person since she was young. She was not shy about teasing men and using her body, even if she's like that she ended up raising Nami and Nojiko and taught them that a woman should be smart in this world of men. IN MY OPINION, that's a better lesson for girls than to sit around only knowing to raise your voice demanding equality from men (like a tsundere yelling at the guy she likes and he can't help but tease her) but hey I'm a guy so I wouldn't really fully understand, but feel free to hate me though..
I don't know why are you even bringing Nami personally up and her style of clothing. 99% of One Piece females dress the same skimpy way anyway. Trying to justify it with their back-stories is kinda ridicules.
was it ever stated the reason why kinemon has a vendetta against dragons
http://mangasee.com/manga/?series=OnePiece&chapter=682&index=1&page=17
It's not been explained but it probably has something to do with Kaido.
was it ever stated the reason why kinemon has a vendetta against dragons
http://mangasee.com/manga/?series=OnePiece&chapter=682&index=1&page=17
To make a pun on his son becoming one, maybe?
I always thought it was a sort of an artist choice to draw girls the same (Conan comes into mind), especially if you're a 90's author and especially so if you have a long currently running publication? But hey, I would like to know an author that matches all that, so if you can please help me with that, especially if the plot hasn't suffered. It's a fresh of breath air when he tried to progress in the way he draws women though. Old, ugly - pretty sure there are "ugly" nice women and "ugly" nasty women (same goes for "good looking") and evil, villains.. that sounds REALLY black and white, but you do realize more than the fact that this is a shonen, this is a shonen in a pirate era.
Your analyzis about Zoro is showing EXACTLY what I'm talking about. Zoro started off as a character who claimed there was no difference between men and women and that they should be treated the same way, which took off from his reletionship with Kuina, and now his attitude took a 180 turn and it's all about "I can't fight you, you're a woman".
Luffy is the one who actually sees no difference, but even then Oda hardly ever allows him to deal with girls story-wise.
The boobs getting bigger I don't think is a Oda thing, more like a Jump (not exactly Jump, but the directors or whoever Oda's has to "obey") thing.
It's called art evolution.
@Al!naJames:
Your analyzis about Zoro is showing EXACTLY what I'm talking about. Zoro started off as a character who claimed there was no difference between men and women and that they should be treated the same way, which took off from his reletionship with Kuina, and now his attitude took a 180 turn and it's all about "I can't fight you, you're a woman".
Well, people do change. Zoro was a kid when he said that. So his "change" attitude is comprehensible, imo. And "I can't fight you, you're a woman" is just an overstatement from your side, nothing more.
@Al!naJames:
To make a pun on his son becoming one, maybe?
- He draws guys all different and girls all the same. It's a poor choice.
- I'm not sure what you mean by "all that".
- Oda tried to progress with how he draws woman? Progress where and how? By increasing their boob size? Please tell me it's a joke. Breath of fresh air?.. :wassat:
- Once again, what? There are nasty ugly women and nice ugly women? In One Piece? In general? What are you talking about?
Your analyzis about Zoro is showing EXACTLY what I'm talking about. Zoro started off as a character who claimed there was no difference between men and women and that they should be treated the same way, which took off from his reletionship with Kuina, and now his attitude took a 180 turn and it's all about "I can't fight you, you're a woman".
Luffy is the one who actually sees no difference, but even then Oda hardly ever allows him to deal with girls story-wise.
1. Go to number 2
2. I always thought it was a sort of an artist choice to draw girls the same (Conan comes into mind), especially if you're a 90's author and especially so if you have a long currently running publication – especially if the plot hasn't suffered 3. Robin (the boobs… that's a dead horse, even in my point of view)
4. Nasty as in not.. very nice. In One Piece and in general.
Oh and I mentioned the pirate era before due to it being touched on far as the Straw Hat women - for instance: Nami being used by Arlong and Robin being a demonic child. Honestly you can see that as sexism , but hey there's many real world issues in this manga, why can't be sexism be one of them?
"There are just things I don't like to cut" but he isn't as bad as Sanji in that department.
Luffy and him dealing with girls story-wise, I'll take that challenge!
Alvida, Ms. Valentine, Vivi, Marigold and Sandersonia and his declaration to Big Mom (a part of me does still agree with you though).
Sorry I usually type in a way that is easily misunderstood in text.
To be honest, in real life, I don't especially like tall slim women with big boobs. There are parts that can be filled a lot better than chest area. And oversized boobs tend to cause spinal problems and start to look terrible with the advance of age.
To be honest, in real life, I don't especially like tall slim women with big boobs. There are parts that can be filled a lot better than chest area. And oversized boobs tend to cause spinal problems and start to look terrible with the advance of age.
Me neither. Short girls with short hair and medium sized boobs are the best!
@Al!naJames:
Your analyzis about Zoro is showing EXACTLY what I'm talking about. Zoro started off as a character who claimed there was no difference between men and women and that they should be treated the same way, which took off from his reletionship with Kuina, and now his attitude took a 180 turn and it's all about "I can't fight you, you're a woman".
The only woman that Zoro wouldn't fight is Tashigi, but this is due to the fact that she reminds him too much of Kuina. Any other woman, Zoro would have been fine with slicing them up.
The only woman that Zoro wouldn't fight is Tashigi, but this is due to the fact that she reminds him too much of Kuina. Any other woman, Zoro would have been fine with slicing them up.
That's just wrong. Otherwise we wouldn't have a discussion whether Monet survived or not.
Not to mention he wouldn't use a dull edge of his sword to defeat that nun on Whiskey Peak.
That's just wrong. Otherwise we wouldn't have a discussion whether Monet survived or not.
Not to mention he wouldn't use a dull edge of his sword to defeat that nun on Whiskey Peak.
Well he did cut Monet in half, no? And he used the dull edge of his sword on pretty much everyone on whiskey peak if I remember correctly.
Well he did cut Monet in half, no? And he used the dull edge of his sword on pretty much everyone on whiskey peak if I remember correctly.
But he knew he wouldn't hurt her like that. Zoro isn't a cold blooded killer. But I think, if he were to fight a woman who he perceived as a danger, he would fight her seriously, unlike Sanji, who can't fight women, end of discussion. When Miss Monday almost smashed his head, he responed with using his own strength on her, without as much as a thought.
On an unrelated note, I just visited Miss Monday's wikia page and saw something really silly.
[http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Miss_Monday
"After the timeskip, she is shown with a musket strapped to her back. It is unknown if she knew how to use it before the events of Whiskey Peak or if she learned how to use it afterwards."](http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Miss_Monday)
Who writes this crap?
They wrote the same thing for my boy Pekoms and almost every character carrying a weapon without using it LOL
On an unrelated note, I just visited Miss Monday's wikia page and saw something really silly.
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Miss_Monday
Miss Monday is like, the only character that Oda actually gave dark skin AND the only muscular female with a diffirent body-type. And her nose!!! ;;;;6;;;; Precious.
Now I'm laughing because I remembered Miss Monday's voice in the 4kids dub. If you haven't heard it, watch
right now. You will thank me.There is no way I click this link knowing where it will lead me to.
@Al!naJames:
- He draws guys all different and girls all the same. It's a poor choice.
False.
I would post images showing you the variety of women Oda has drawn that range from Beautiful, average, to ugly, with a variety of face features, proportions, and hair styles…. But you know, I don't quite have the time to do that.
So by all means, keep thinking that One Piece females are either Beautiful Big-Breasted Nami's or Ugly-as-sin Kokoro's.
Now I'm laughing because I remembered Miss Monday's voice in the 4kids dub. If you haven't heard it, watch
right now. You will thank me.
I just watched that same vid, lmao too funny for words.
Finding a woman to dub a woman character, ain't nobody got time fo that!
EDIT: Also, Mr.5. For berooouk weerks!!!
False.
I would post images showing you the variety of women Oda has drawn that range from Beautiful, average, to ugly, with a variety of face features, proportions, and hair styles…. But you know, I don't quite have the time to do that.So by all means, keep thinking that One Piece females are either Beautiful Big-Breasted Nami's or Ugly-as-sin Kokoro's.
Just post an image of Amazon Lily.
Just post an image of Amazon Lily.
Good point.
But then he might go all like "See? They ALL have big boobs!".
You can't change the fact that most of cute ladies have similar builds. Show me a short slightly well filled pretty girl, or a skinny one with small tits. You could switch around heads of some of females and not notice anything.
Not that I'm bothered much by it, but let's be honest.
Just post an image of Amazon Lily.
I got too used to seeing Diamante there.
I got too used to seeing Diamante there.
Hahaha a few people seem to be missing him.
He'll always be in my heart, don't worry.
I just found out the secret behind Rebecca's technique!
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I hope Oda is not planning something like that…
You can't change the fact that most of cute ladies have similar builds. Show me a short slightly well filled pretty girl, or a skinny one with small tits. You could switch around heads of some of females and not notice anything.
Not that I'm bothered much by it, but let's be honest.
You can argue most women in One Piece have large breasts, but to say Oda draws them all the same is just nonsense.
Luckily Roose is even more badass!
Oh so that's who it was. Haven't watched much of tv series, just read the books. The series started just before I read the last one that came out, or something like that. Probably going to watch it all before next book finally gets published, ffs.
was it ever stated the reason why kinemon has a vendetta against dragons
http://mangasee.com/manga/?series=OnePiece&chapter=682&index=1&page=17
Probably has to do with their legendary hero Ryuma!
The story Oda wrote in "Wanted! Monsters!!"
http://mangacraze.com/Wanted-Oda-Eiichiro-Tanpenshu/4/
was a about wondering Samurai "Ryuma" who slayed a dragon. So naturally all Samurai should slay dragons.
Yeah!! Momonosuke's homecoming is gonna suck if that's true.:ninja:
Just post an image of Amazon Lily.
Which is a shame because most of them ended up doing nothing at all.
Which is a shame because most of them ended up doing nothing at all.
Very true, unfortunately.
"Bartolomeo, protect that girl!"
Honestly, the ill feelings towards Rebecca are not reasonable. This chapter confirmed that she is intended to be a 16yo kid that only gets ahead because she is protected by Cavendish, Diamante, Bartolomeo, Santa Claus etc. If you grasp this essential idea, she does OK - she evades what she can and she hides behind the strong fighters that are mostly sympathetic to her cause.
The only thing that is idiotic about Rebecca is some people's idea that she is supposed be some kind of a fighter,a gladiator that wipes the floor with everyone. She is clearly not.
I know this is late but really? Haven't you thought that maybe the Revolutionary guy would have a vested interest in a member of a deposed royal family, you know someone that by helping out he might end up gaining a powerful ally out of.
I think you're too invested in the match(just looking at who wins) and you've forgotten that there is a bigger picture outside the tournament.
As for Rebecca hiding(if thats what you think playing smart is) she's there to win,not to prove how she's a super duper ass kicker there to go toe to toe with strong guys, so that she can go home and tell Kyros how strong she is.
She's there to get that fruit and then use the power of that fruit to stand a chance against Doflamingo as she goes to do whats right by her. So yeah, take of the shounen glasses for awhile and see whats actually going on.
Probably has to do with their legendary hero Ryuma!
The story Oda wrote in "Wanted! Monsters!!"
http://mangacraze.com/Wanted-Oda-Eiichiro-Tanpenshu/4/
was a about wondering Samurai "Ryuma" who slayed a dragon. So naturally all Samurai should slay dragons.
Nah, it seems something more personal than that.
Oh so that's who it was. Haven't watched much of tv series, just read the books. The series started just before I read the last one that came out, or something like that. Probably going to watch it all before next book finally gets published, ffs.
Dude, go watch it! The Actors are fucking amazing, and there are loads of stuff in there that we never got to "experience" in first person in the books. For example, have a taste of some of Ramsays torturing of Theon:
Just reread the arc from the beginning, now i just can't wait for the next chapter. I think uhh shogun franky is going to appear somehow, i bet he has a homing device or something. Zoro, Luffy and Pica will be having a epic stalemate battle, sometime in here Usopp is going to stand up and do something….. Idk what it will be but its fkin overdue, doesn't he have like a seed that knocks people out? I think hakuba or whatever is gonna wake up and contribute to the whole fight. When Cavendish's name is eventually in the headlines with luffy's he's just gonna be happy to be in the spotlight, so they'll be friends.
The feminists in this thread are super annoying. Any mention of feminism from here on out should result in a ban. It has nothing to do with anything and takes away from the thread. Seriously, you guys wonder why people hate feminists. So terrible. I'm expecting some of them to go off on me after this.
Lol, ok. Thanks for your input, guy who takes his user name from an evil, sadistic, child-drugging-and-abducting douchebag.
The feminists in this thread are super annoying. Any mention of feminism from here on out should result in a ban. It has nothing to do with anything and takes away from the thread. Seriously, you guys wonder why people hate feminists. So terrible.
feminism is a drain on society, there is only left or right. and some people just won't respect women, it sucks but its true.
I like Oda's portrayal of women because he makes them all happy is every shape and size.
Probably has to do with their legendary hero Ryuma!
The story Oda wrote in "Wanted! Monsters!!"
http://mangacraze.com/Wanted-Oda-Eiichiro-Tanpenshu/4/
was a about wondering Samurai "Ryuma" who slayed a dragon. So naturally all Samurai should slay dragons.
Yeah!! Momonosuke's homecoming is gonna suck if that's true.:ninja:
It's not been explained but it probably has something to do with Kaido.
i agree , maybe you guys are right .. if oda decided to keep using this rhythm "the conflict between samurai and dragons"
and we know kinemon and momo are terrified of kaido for some unkown reasons , maybe he is attacking wanokuni
or it already became his territory that would explain everything , in that case the reason why kinemon has a vendetta against dragons
is because kaido or one of his subordinates has a dragon DF
edit : or he's a real dragon , why the hell not
i agree , maybe you guys are right .. if oda decided to keep using this rhythm "the conflict between samurai and dragons"
and we know kinemon and momo are terrified of kaido for some unkown reasons , maybe he is attacking wanokuni
or it already became his territory that would explain everything , in that case the reason why kinemon has a vendetta against dragons
is because kaido or one of his subordinates has a dragon DF
I think there's just too much of an opportunity here for Kaido to have a mythical zoan : type : Dragon.
Although not a kind of wimpy looking chinese dragon like Momo is, I'm talking a massive European Hungarian horntail type dragon.
I think there's just too much of an opportunity here for Kaido to have a mythical zoan : type : Dragon.
Although not a kind of wimpy looking chinese dragon like Momo is, I'm talking a massive European Hungarian horntail type dragon.
yeah i think there will be different classes of the dragon zoan just like the bug DFs
momo is a disgrace to dragonkind
I think there's just too much of an opportunity here for Kaido to have a mythical zoan : type : Dragon.
Although not a kind of wimpy looking chinese dragon like Momo is, I'm talking a massive European Hungarian horntail type dragon.
That is exactly why the crew needs Rebecca. It is well known that only a young princess ,whose family has been chased from the throne, can tame this specific type of dragon
yeah i think there will be different classes of the dragon zoan just like the bug DFs
momo is a disgrace to dragonkind
Hahahahaha a little harsh but yeah I get you.
I'm sure we haven't seen the limits of his abilities though.
I am seriously thinking Rebecca may join the strawhats guys, Oda thinks we like her I'm betting.
I want bellamy to join the barto club
I wouldn't mind Rebecca joining though she might pull a Vivi…
Also warming to the idea of Rebecca joining the crew.
I hope Rebecca joins I'm a Rebecca fanboy.
Of course Rebecca's joining, look at that display of raw strength she showed against Diamante, the Strawhats are sure going to need someone as strong as her in the New World
Hahahahaha a little harsh but yeah I get you.
I'm sure we haven't seen the limits of his abilities though.
even luffy thought he is an eel lol , but yeah of course his DF will have many good potentials
he looks badass in this cover though
!
I am seriously thinking Rebecca may join the strawhats guys, Oda thinks we like her I'm betting.
can't see it , she has no job among the crew and she doesn't have a major dream she wants to accomplish
those two are the most important conditions for joining
I´m against Rebecca joining, but i must admit i´m slowly starting to like her…