Pluton, Poseidon, and Uranus

Foxy The Silver Fox

Original theory can be found here

And while I'm at it, I'm going to post the entire stuff:

We all know that coverstories are pretty much important to the story. Every characters who got his own coverstory came back to the story with differents purpose. Buggy, Ace, Mr2, Crocodile, Mr3, Jango, Hachi, Coby, Helmeppo. Some of them have yet to make their come back, but it's a matter of time.

Now about Gedatsu. What could he do? Why such a random character got his own coverstory? Its been a while now, yet nothing happened? Seems weird to me.

You all know about Pluton. Crocodile knew that Pluton was located in Alabasta (how the hell he knows is still a mystery), and according to Cobra and Robin, it is safe to assume that Pluton is indeed located in Alabasta.

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So… where the hell is Pluton? An huge warship...that is not found since about 900 years??

According to Robin, ancient weapon's names share the names of Gods.

Poseidon= god of the sea
Uranis= god of the sky
Pluton (or Hades) = god of the underground

Well, yea. Underground. That's the key word.

Where should we look for? underground in One Piece?

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Hell yea. Gedatsu's coverstory. And now, what's going on in this story? Well you know it:

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Alabasta.
In short, Pluton as a name is related to the underground. Underground in One Piece can be found in Gedatsu's coverstory and this coverstory is related to Alabasta where Pluton should be located.

So my theory is this: I think that Gedatsu will accidentaly discover Pluton while digging in the underground of Alabasta. Which mean, I think that Pluton is hidden in the underground.
I'm not saying that Gedatsu will own Pluton, obviously. Lof of stuff can happen from the moment Pluton is discovered and known around the world.

You have the nerve to call the Half-Moon Theory stupid, but you think that Gedatsu will find Pluton?

beck26

i like the half-moon theory. i think it connects many dots and the reasoning falls perfectly into the skypiea thingy.

Kirk

@Foxy:

You have the nerve to call the Half-Moon Theory stupid, but you think that Gedatsu will find Pluton?

Indeed, you have a problem with that?

Foxy The Silver Fox

@Kirk:

Indeed, you have a problem with that?

Well, yeah, the Half-Moon Theory is most likely right, but this Gedatsu-Pluton Theory is too much of a stretch.

Seriously, you think that freaking Gedatsu will find Pluton, but The Will of D. isn't from Human-Skypiean Hybrids?

Robby

We'll probably see all three weapons before serie's end, and since we know one is in Alabasta, it being found by accident makes sense to me. It would give more point to the gedatsu story.

I'm more curious about the bridge that wasn't finished after 900 years and what it leads to.

Kirk

The way I see it, when Pluton will be discovered I can see the WG trying to get their hands on it since they are looking for an ancient weapon and Alabasta is part of the WG. An huge warship would be cool for Akainu. I don't think Crocodile will ever get another chance to come back there. But there is also the possibility that the WG try to get their hands on Poseidon (no pun intended) if the news spread around the world thx to Caribou.

So far I can't imagine the fishmen joining the WG since this same government will most likely go down at the end of the story. So..can Poseidon be used against her will? Like…they threaten her to destroy fishman island if she does not give her the power to them. That could eventually lead to a war between the WG and fishmen...there are a lot of possibilities.

1PceXperience

@Kirk:

The way I see it, when Pluton will be discovered I can see the WG trying to get their hands on it since they are looking for an ancient weapon and Alabasta is part of the WG. An huge warship would be cool for Akainu. I don't think Crocodile will ever get another chance to come back there. But there is also the possibility that the WG try to get their hands on Poseidon (no pun intended) if the news spread around the world thx to Caribou.

So far I can't imagine the fishmen joining the WG since this same government will most likely go down at the end of the story. So..can Poseidon be used against her will? Like…they threaten her to destroy fishman island if she does not give her the power to them. That could eventually lead to a war between the WG and fishmen...there are a lot of possibilities.

I can't even see the WG going to war with FI. If they wanted to apprehend Shirohshi they'd probably initiate some clandestine operations and just kidnap her.

Besides, if Caribou really is heading to Kaido, then it will be Kaido who goes after her not the WG

Kirk

@1PceXperience:

I can't even see the WG going to war with FI.

Well in this case it would be Fishmen declaring a war against the WG. What do you think would be Neptune's reaction if Shirahoshi was detained by the WG?

Also, I think that what we had during the previous arc scream dramatic plot everywhere: you have the Reverie incoming, Neptune supporting Luffy, Shirahoshi being Poseidon, the whole stuff with the world nobles, slavering and discrimination…It can't end well with this current government.

As for Kaido I don't think he is important enough in the story to deal with ancient weapons ( important as appearing after 700 chapters in the story).

1PceXperience

@Kirk:

Well in this case it would be Fishmen declaring a war against the WG. What do you think would be Neptune's reaction if Shirahoshi was detained by the WG?

Also, I think that what we had during the previous arc scream dramatic plot everywhere: you have the Reverie incoming, Neptune supporting Luffy, Shirahoshi being Poseidon, the whole stuff with the world nobles, slavering and discrimination…It can't end well with this current government.

As for Kaido I don't think he is important enough in the story to deal with ancient weapons ( important as appearing after 700 chapters in the story).

No harm in Kaido being propelled in that rank of importance. I think it would be a great fit. It would suck to not have the Yonkou be more involved into deeper story of One Piece.

Ashura_KingFisher

Just read the half-moon theory… wow, it's the 4th best theory I have read so far.

"D" being an image of a half-moon is totally Oda-like twist, no one would have expected it (well, until the theory appeared obviously). But I personally support it because the theory shared the same thought with me about Shandora being the Ancient Kingdom.

However, the idea has a big hole like why there wasn't any winged people with "D" in their names? Instead, the Ds were carved into non-winged people like humans and giants (so far).

Jackermeister

@Ashura_KingFisher:

Just read the half-moon theory… wow, it's the 4th best theory I have read so far."D" being an image of a half-moon is totally Oda-like twist, no one would have expected it (well, until the theory appeared obviously). But I personally support it because the theory shared the same thought with me about Shandora being the Ancient Kingdom.However, the idea has a big hole like why there wasn't any winged people with "D" in their names? Instead, the Ds were carved into non-winged people like humans and giants (so far).

Careful. This thread might get closed if you talk about that theory.

hamad138

Honestly why are the wg so afraid that someone will discover the history? I mean if the ds were moon people, then wg could tell, oh there were some kingdom from the moon that we have destroyed….

Better: celestial dragons and gorusei are moon people who are controlling the world, than a normal human also wants to defeat them

KaWKaW

What if Uranus is the planet that Enel is on and the Space Pirates were members of the ancient kingdom designated to protect it.

EvoWarrior5

@KaW~KaW:

What if Uranus is the planet that Enel is on and the Space Pirates were members of the ancient kingdom designated to protect it.

Uranus is the moon?
I've seen some crazy theories but the moon being one huge weapon goes a little bit too far to me.

I believe since recently that Dragon might be the Uranus. the god of the sky who can control weather.

King Cannon

@EvoWarrior5:

Uranus is the moon?
I've seen some crazy theories but the moon being one huge weapon goes a little bit too far to me.

I believe since recently that Dragon might be the Uranus. the god of the sky who can control weather.

We already have a human (well, half-human) weapon (Poseidon). If Pluton is indeed a warship, then chances are that Uranus is something different from those two.

EvoWarrior5

@King:

We already have a human (well, half-human) weapon (Poseidon). If Pluton is indeed a warship, then chances are that Uranus is something different from those two.

True, true.

But I mostly believe in Ashura's theory of the Inherited Will that is One Piece.
At one point in that thread, poeple were discussing the weather effects in the Grand Line and if that could become a problem.

Then somebody mentioned Uranus which means God of Sky, the one that can control the weather.
Which reminded me and others of Dragon's actions in Loguetown, and to me it would make a lot of sense if he appeared to be the Uranus weapon.

GoranTg

Here's a theory:
The hole in the ocean surrounding Enies Lobby was created by one of the ancient weapons; Uranus most probably. The weapon is still above on a sky island and is the source of Enies Lobby's eternal daylight.

Clessenur

Has anyone noticed that always when one of these weapons is being mentioned some character says: "It has the power to destroy the whole world!".

EvoWarrior5

@Clessenur:

Has anyone noticed that always when one of these weapons is being mentioned some character says: "It has the power to destroy the whole world!".

Mostly because when one would fall into the wrong hands, they definitely could.

Mortein

this is still, by far, the most powerful explosion in OP.

Are there any theories about the connection between this explosion and Uranus?

links?

KageKageKing

@Mortein:

this is still, by far, the most powerful explosion in OP.

http://z.mfcdn.net/store/manga/106/47-451.0/compressed/001.jpg
Are there any theories about the connection between this explosion and Uranus?

links?

That was just the space pirates making holes on the moon.

Mortein

@KageKageKing:

That was just the space pirates making holes on the moon.

I know that, but what kind of tool/weapon were they using?
Anyone in a possession of that kind of technology could destroy entire countries in second.

KageKageKing

@Mortein:

I know that, but what kind of tool/weapon were they using?
Anyone in a possession of that kind of technology could destroy entire countries in second.

Whatever, Enel destroyed them in a matter of seconds.

Toucan

@KageKageKing:

That was just the space pirates making holes on the moon.

That was never confirmed.

KageKageKing

@Toucan:

That was never confirmed.

It makes more sense.

Van Awan

Uranus is the space rocket, Pluton is the battleship, Poseidon is Mermaid Princess

ForumNoob

@Jackermeister:

Careful. This thread might get closed if you talk about that theory.

why would the thread be closed if we talked about the theory?

hiphipjorge

I always believed that Uranus has the ability to control weather and was found by Roger. If you remember the Strong World prologue chapter, Shiki mentions that Roger knows the whereabouts of a weapon that can destroy the world. The two fought and Roger and managed to induce a draw because the harsh weather allowed him the opportunity to escape. The storm that saved Roger was the result of him using Uranus.

Eventually, I believe Uranus was then found by Dragon after Roger's death or given to him by Roger personally which would explain how he was able to create storms in Loguetown and in Goa. Also, as others have mentioned, him being in possession of one of the ancient weapons would obviously justify his position as the world's most wanted man.

D.aelthasaar

Ok, this is a theory that's no supported yet with big evidence but it could be of interest.
We don't know WHO made the weapons yet.
It has never been made clear.
Everyone suppose it has been the Ancient Kingdom, but it has never been stated.
We only know for sure that they're considered weapons of mass destruction.

Now…Poseidon is a living being, Pluton is a warship, Uranus is what?
How do you build a living being as a weapon? Or better, how can you know that every x times, in time of need a child will born with the "power".
Why do you need to build a warship if such a big power can be conveyed in people?

There are high chances that Uranus is another human, Dragon.
If that's the case, why 2 humans and a machine?
Is there any chance that
A) Pluton was build to substitute the individual known as Pluton?
B) 2 weapons were built by a faction and 1 from another?
C) During 900 years some information has been lost and the blueprints are for the "Anti-Pluton"?

I must also say that I can't imagine a warship that is as powerful and destructive as a "guy" able to control every sea king in the world at the same time.

Wild speculation anyway.

Cutty Fram

I can't stop giggling at what kind of horrendous weapon Uranus ís.