One Piece 707: B Block
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If anything, this chapter proved the opposite. Those named characters we thought would get defeated rather quickly, are now turning out to have various connections and an intriguing history (talking about Hack and Elizabello respectively).
I believe that because of the background is more serious to happen
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Elizabello = One-punch Man.
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Who thinks we are actually going to see Lucy/Luffy walk into the arena without his disguise?
The audience and esp that announcer would shit bricks :w00t:
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^speaking of which, Dagama is one hell of a strategist telling his opponents about his trump card and its drawbacks.
Its a shonen manga in the end. :P
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Didn't Dagama sya that he wants the King to eat the Mera Mera because of the drawback that it needs to charge?
So during the charging time he cannot get hit because he's fire or something.Anyways I don't think it's a DF.
I agree that it's not a DF (there were TWO words in there to imply "natural born/since birth"), but Dagama never said anything about letting the king have the fruit.
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To me, the King's punch seems like an obvious set up for it too be used against him. Like a last minute bait and switch probably by Barto so that it hits Dagama instead. No idea on whose going to win this one now though. Going to have to go with Barto as he's the character without the development so far and with his nonchalant behaviour in this chap seems like he's not even phased by anyone.
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@The:
How can you say Ricky doesn't look that old when he's wearing a full-face mask. What? lol Also. Did you see his body? That body is like…the picture body of a badass old man in One Piece. That's NOT the body of a young person.
Dude,just stop.Ricky is going to lose the match while Kyros has only been touched once in 3000 matches.No one would ever introduce an important character as fodder that will be defeated.
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the term FORMER gladiator is important as well
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Dude,just stop.Ricky is going to lose the match while Kyros has only been touched once in 3000 matches.No one would ever introduce an important character as fodder that will be defeated.
I mostly agree with this. Ricky is a disciple, a descendant, a superfan, or something. I'd really hope Kyros would crush this block harder than Burgess.
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Dude,just stop.Ricky is going to lose the match while Kyros has only been touched once in 3000 matches.No one would ever introduce an important character as fodder that will be defeated.
Are you like…dumb?
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Looks like Ricky = Kyros is the new Blind man = Fujitora.
Fun fun fun.
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@The:
Are you like…dumb?
Do you lack…reading comprehension?
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CCC could you please give an explanation of what exactly is meant by "flattening even pirates such as the Yonkou"? Is it meant as being more impressive than what is seen from the Yonkous?
Been reading One Piece since 2002 - first release in Denmark.
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I laughed with Ricky turning out to have a mystery to him with people here jokingly discussing him last chapter thread.
Most of the characters are actually really interesting, even if they get defeated. I think Jinbei's friend, Ricky and the Kano old man are the most interesting.
But I also love how chill Barto is and of course Cavendish. I love whenever a typical character archetype is introduced and is given this funny spin to it, that's great.
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If he is Kyros, does he want the Mera Mera no mi or could he have joined the tournament to try and find a worthy opponent? And will he be important to the tournament or the overall arc?
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@CCC:
Looks like Ricky = Kyros is the new Blind man = Fujitora.
Fun fun fun.
You think it's THAT clear?
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CCC could you please give an explanation of what exactly is meant by "flattening even pirates such as the Yonkou"? Is it meant as being more impressive than what is seen from the Yonkous?
It's pretty literal. He (Dagama) is saying that he thinks Elizabello's punch could beat a Yonkou. Like… physically. Knock them out. Kill them. Whatever.
@Dan:
You think it's THAT clear?
Just about.
-Gladiator, but dudes from recent times have never seen him
-Wields longsword two-handed, no shield, just like the statue
-Old-timer vaguely remembers him and his fighting style, from "a long time ago"
-Oda-given title says "Former" Gladiator
-Hiding his face purposely. Why would a disciple or fan hide his face?
-Kyros is important enough to get a several pages of exposition and a mention of his mere statue in a chapter title. How could he NOT show up in the current story? -
Are you like…reading incoherent?
lol reading incoherent.
This is coming from someone who apparently didn't see Ricky fodderize the crap out of people this chapter, even while being double, triple, and quadruple teamed. This is coming from someone who apparently didn't see FORMER Gladiator Ricky being talked about by the audience in "mysterious ways" for ~2 1/2 pages.
If you think Ricky is going to be fodder after that, then you're even dumber than you look/sound.
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A week ago I said Wiper will show up in B block, and now mysterious guy with mask shows up! I'm Nostradamus!
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i'm calling it;
Ricky is obviously Sabo.
think about it.
have you ever seen them in the same place?
no?
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CCC could you please give an explanation of what exactly is meant by "flattening even pirates such as the Yonkou"? Is it meant as being more impressive than what is seen from the Yonkous?
Dagama thinks the punch can take out even a Yonkou if it ever lands.
Not only will it never land on one, but also, Dagama's opinion =/= facts.
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Dagama thinks the punch can take out even a Yonkou if it ever lands.
Not only will it never land on one, but also, Dagama's opinion =/= facts.
This.
Dagama always talks big too.
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Ricky is either Kyros, or someone extremely related to him.
Being a "former Gladiator" the chances are, he IS him.I mean Jesus, there's actually more hints of him being Kyros than when Fujitora first showed up being…. Fujitora.
Sure, I'm not stating facts, just obvious plot hints.
You remember last time that happened? And people argued? uh-huh. -
Oh, i missed the part about Elizabello's punch maybe being able to KO even a yonkou should it connect. That's changes my opinion on it a bit. But this is coming from Dagama, so it's pretty suspect hyping if you as me. Still…
@The:
lol reading incoherent.
This is coming from someone who apparently didn't see Ricky fodderize the crap out of people this chapter, even while being double, triple, and quadruple teamed. This is coming from someone who apparently didn't see FORMER Gladiator Ricky be talked about in "mysterious ways" for ~2 1/2 pages.
If you think Ricky is going to be fodder after that, then you're even dumber than you look/sound.
Thing is, Blue Gilly, Hack, BELLAMY for crying out loud, etc, can fodderize some of the tournament small fry just as well. Ricky is, so far, being portrayed on that level. My guy feeling is that doesn't sound like Kyros to me.
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@The:
lol reading incoherent. This is coming from someone who apparently didn't see Ricky fodderize the crap out of people this chapter, even while being double, triple, and quadruple teamed. This is coming from someone who apparently didn't see FORMER Gladiator Ricky being talked about by the audience in "mysterious ways" for ~2 1/2 pages. If you think Ricky is going to be fodder after that, then you're even dumber than you look/sound.
Thinks fodderizing fodder is impressive >Thinks an undefeated gladiator would suddenly lose a match >Is a former gladiator so now he's Kyros >Talked about by fodder like everyone else in the match and now he's Kyros
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Dagama thinks the punch can take out even a Yonkou if it ever lands.
Not only will it never land on one, but also, Dagama's opinion =/= facts.
This, the closest Dagama's probably been to seeing yonkou level will probably come from the tournament, and i think they'll be majorly disappointed by the results of the punch regardless if it lands or not.
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A week ago I said Wiper will show up in B block, and now mysterious guy with mask shows up! I'm Nostradamus!
I wonder what happened with his tatoo??
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This, the closest Dagama's probably been to seeing yonkou level will probably come from the tournament, and i think they'll be majorly disappointed by the results of the punch regardless if it lands or not.
@Joy:
This.
Dagama always talks big too.
That is not to say though, that I underestimate that punch.
I mean geez, if that thing clean-hits, most anyone would be KO'ed or dead.I can't see the silly fodder King landing that hit on anyone important ever, but SHOULD it land clean, it'd probably take out most upper-tier fighters.
It just doesn't really matter since it'd never land. lol.Now, jokes about him launching the punch, and "accidentally" landing on Diamante or something would be funny as hell.
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Thinks fodderizing fodder is impressive >Thinks an undefeated gladiator would suddenly lose a match >Is a former gladiator so now he's Kyros >Talked about by fodder like everyone else in the match and now he's Kyros
So what you're saying is, not only can't you read, but you're entirely blind? Oh, ok. I think I understand now.
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As I said with the Fujitora case, the only way Ricky =/= Kyros is if he's intentionally being set up as a red herring. Oda wants us to think it's Kyros. He knows his readers can put two and two together, which is why he dropped so many clues so far.
So the options are:
A) Trixy red herring plot to fool us
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@The:
So what you're saying is, not only can't you read, but, you're entirely blind? Oh, ok. I think I understand now.
Of course you would change the subject and ignore everything I said.
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That is not to say though, that I underestimate that punch.
I mean geez, if that thing clean-hits, most anyone would be KO'ed or dead.I can't see the silly fodder King landing that hit on anyone important ever, but SHOULD it land clean, it'd probably take out most upper-tier fighters.
It just doesn't really matter since it'd never land. lol.Now, jokes about him launching the punch, and "accidentally" landing on Diamante or something would be funny as hell.
Well,I don't underestimate it either but Yonko are shown to be unparalleled in strength.Old WB was taking attacks from Sakazuki of all people.
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“But he’s just got a sword”
“Like a samurai from Wanokuni or something…!!”That second line, C3, will soon lead to people speculating that it's another Wano samurai, having come to rescue Kanjurou and Kin-emon. Or even better, it's Kin-emon himself who beat up those DD thugs and secretly joined the tournament.
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@CCC:
As I said with the Fujitora case, the only way Ricky =/= Kyros is if he's intentionally being set up as a red herring. Oda wants us to think it's Kyros. He knows his readers can put two and two together, which is why he dropped so many clues so far.
So the options are:
A) Trixy red herring plot to fool us
B) Occam's razor: he's KyrosI will give you that, this has more chance of being a red herring than Fujitora.
Simply because in Ricky's case, it's nothing but "obvious hints", and not actually "breaking a pre-existing formula of One Piece law" which would have been the case if Fujitora wasn't Fujitora.
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I believe Ricky to be Kyros, but if he is I'm a bit disappointed he didn't immediately do the Burgess on B-Block as should be expected of the former undefeated grand champion. I guess he's trying to keep it low key?
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@CCC:
It's pretty literal. He (Dagama) is saying that he thinks Elizabello's punch could beat a Yonkou. Like… physically. Knock them out. Kill them. Whatever.
Just about.
-Gladiator, but dudes from recent times have never seen him
-Wields longsword two-handed, no shield, just like the statue
-Old-timer vaguely remembers him and his fighting style, from "a long time ago"
-Oda-given title says "Former" Gladiator
-Hiding his face purposely. Why would a disciple or fan hide his face?
-Kyros is important enough to get a several pages of exposition and a mention of his mere statue in a chapter title. How could he NOT show up in the current story?Wait, why would Kyros need to hide his face? No one should know what he looks like, right? No one knows if he was even real.
I absolutely expect him to be a big part of the arc, which is why i'm having doubts here. Ricky's introduction and portrayal seems relatively insignificant to me. I admit there is good reason to see things as you do, but it just feels off to me, which is very likely due at least in part to some of my preconceived notions about the character i realize.
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@CCC:
As I said with the Fujitora case, the only way Ricky =/= Kyros is if he's intentionally being set up as a red herring. Oda wants us to think it's Kyros. He knows his readers can put two and two together, which is why he dropped so many clues so far.
So the options are:
A) Trixy red herring plot to fool us
B) Occam's razor: he's KyrosSomething Oda's been very fond of doing lately, i will note.
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Ricky is either Kyros, or someone extremely related to him.
Being a "former Gladiator" the chances are, he IS him.I mean Jesus, there's actually more hints of him being Kyros than when Fujitora first showed up being…. Fujitora.
Sure, I'm not stating facts, just obvious plot hints.
You remember last time that happened? And people argued? uh-huh.I think he will be a son or another relative of Kyros, but not Kyros himself.
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Nobody saying that Robin's got legs that are longer that a lonleg tribe guy?
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I will give you that, this has more chance of being a red herring than Fujitora.
Simply because in Ricky's case, it's nothing but "obvious hints", and not actually "breaking a pre-existing formula of One Piece law" which would have been the case if Fujitora wasn't Fujitora.Exactly. Fujitora was more obvious… but for subtler reasons (that people couldn't seem to understand no matter how many times you explained).
This case has obvious reasons (all lying directly in the immediate chapters, and not in patterns and formulas and language use)... which means better chance that we're being duped. But duped in a very intentional way.
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@CCC:
As I said with the Fujitora case, the only way Ricky =/= Kyros is if he's intentionally being set up as a red herring. Oda wants us to think it's Kyros. He knows his readers can put two and two together, which is why he dropped so many clues so far.
So the options are:
A) Trixy red herring plot to fool us
B) Occam's razor: he's KyrosWell… Let's be honest. Oda, though a great manga author, isn't too good at fooling people, and hiding the identities of his characters (like Fujitora for instance). Anyone who was a dedicated One Piece fan, and payed enough attention to the series, could figure out that the blind swordsman = Fujitora.
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I believe Ricky to be Kyros, but if he is I'm a bit disappointed he didn't immediately do the Burgess on B-Block as should be expected of the former undefeated grand champion. I guess he's trying to keep it low key?
@Dan:
Wait, why would Kyros need to hide his face? No one know should know what he looks like, right? No one knows if he was even real.
I absolutely expect him to be a big part of the arc, which is why i'm having doubts here. His introduction and portrayal seems relatively insignificant to me. I admit there is good reason to see things as you do, but it just feels off to me, which is very likely to due some of my preconceived notions about the character i realize.
Pretty sure he's keeping a low-profile.
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@The:
Well… Let's be honest. Oda, though a great manga author, isn't too good at fooling people, and hiding the identities of his characters (like Fujitora for instance). Anyone who was a dedicated One Piece fan, and payed enough attention to the series, could figure out that the blind swordsman = Fujitora.
That's because it was foreshadowed -_-
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Even if the King could land the punch, who is he going to hit? Unless punching one person can affect everyone, it won't do him any good. For a tactician, Dagama really sucks. Even if the King makes it past this round, the punch would never land against Dofla's crew nor will he have a chance at focusing his strength.
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@CCC:
Exactly. Fujitora was more obvious… but for subtler reasons (that people couldn't seem to understand no matter how many times you explained).
This case has obvious reasons (all lying directly in the chapters, and not in patterns and formulas and language use)… which means better chance that we're being duped. But duped in a very intentional way.
That's possible, I suppose.
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That's because it was foreshadowed -_-
And Ricky possibly being Kyros isn't (or an important disciple of Kyros, at the very least)? What…? The foreshadowing is even greater than that of Fujitora.
You're making little to no sense.
If you think Ricky is just fodder, than, well...I don't know what to think.
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Only case of such practice that I can recall was Ace's father talk with Garp, later being revealed to be Gold Roger.
So far Ricky's deal doesn't seem nearly as focused for intentional mislead though, so I'd take it at face value for now.
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@The:
Well… Let's be honest. Oda, though a great manga author, isn't too good at fooling people, and hiding the identities of his characters (like Fujitora for instance). Anyone who was a dedicated One Piece fan, and payed enough attention to the series, could figure out that the blind swordsman = Fujitora.
I don't think he ever tried to hide Fujitora's identity…he obviously wasn't officialy presented when he first appeared, otherwise it would have started a ruckus between him/SH/dressrosa inhabitants...
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@The:
lol reading incoherent.
This is coming from someone who apparently didn't see Ricky fodderize the crap out of people this chapter, even while being double, triple, and quadruple teamed. This is coming from someone who apparently didn't see FORMER Gladiator Ricky being talked about by the audience in "mysterious ways" for ~2 1/2 pages.
If you think Ricky is going to be fodder after that, then you're even dumber than you look/sound.
How could you possible know what he looks or sounds like?
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@The:
That's possible, I suppose. –- Update From New Post Merge --- And Ricky possibly being Kyros isn't (or an important disciple of Kyros, at the very least)? What...? The foreshadowing is even greater than that of Fujitora. You're making little to no sense. If you think Ricky is just fodder, than, well...I don't know what to think.
He's just fodder with a name.That's exactly what he is right now. I don't recall saying that he wasn't Kyros,I said it made no sense. How is rickey being foreshadowed as much as Fujitora?The guy only had like 1 page.You sound so silly saying that.
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How could you possible know what he looks or sounds like?
What…? I'm messing with him. Of course I don't know what he looks or sounds like. lol
It's a figure of speech.
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He's just fodder with a name.That's exactly what he is right now. I don't recall saying that he wasn't Kyros,I said it made no sense. How is rickey being foreshadowed as much as Fujitora?The guy only had like 1 page.You sound so silly saying that.
We agree to disagree than.
But, if (once) you see Ricky being an important follower of Kyros, or Kyros himself, you're going to kick yourself (very hard) in the ass.
