I cannae imagine there being anywhere to fit in a filler between Fishman Island and Punk Hazard… I cannae see it.
Unless they have an excruciatingly long rise to the surface of the sea = ^ =;
573: ''Finally Setting Sail! Farewell to Fishman Island''
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Looked like a good episode to me. It's nice to see them use that theme song well, unlike what I thought was a giant failure in picking the fight against the pacifistas on Sabaody. I didn't see anything to complain about at all in this episode really. Good representation of the manga.
@400MillionBelis:
I embrace the filler with open arms! This will mean Punk Hazard will get better pacing. I hope.
Temper your expectations. The amount of filler episodes probably won't even negate the amount of breaks the manga has had.
I cannae imagine there being anywhere to fit in a filler between Fishman Island and Punk Hazard… I cannae see it.
Unless they have an excruciatingly long rise to the surface of the sea = ^ =;All they have to do is surface somewhere else. Coming up with a plot device to get them to Punk Hazard later seems pretty simple.
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…So, are they going to play We Go every time the Straw Hats set off for a new destination from now on? I mean, they did it when they dove into the ocean to head to Fishman Island too (as well as the episode before that again…) Granted, it worked pretty well and did a great job hyping up the fact that after all these years they're finally about to enter the New World, but still… Also some of the art near the end (Jinbe's laughing and some of the characters' eyes during the We Go-sequence) looked a bit off... But other than that, this episode was pretty great.
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Temper your expectations. The amount of filler episodes probably won't even negate the amount of breaks the manga has had.
Do we have a count on the amount this year?
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All they have to do is surface somewhere else. Coming up with a plot device to get them to Punk Hazard later seems pretty simple.
< / 3 hope not…
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Do we have a count on the amount this year?
Only five.
542: Special Toriko - One Piece Crossover
575:Z's Ambition Arc
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All they have to do is surface somewhere else. Coming up with a plot device to get them to Punk Hazard later seems pretty simple.
I think it'd be a pretty big kick in the pants to start the New World with filler. Maybe that's just me though.
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Law is almost here I can't wait!
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Only five.
542: Special Toriko - One Piece Crossover
575:Z's Ambition Arc
576:Z's Ambition Arc
577:Z's Ambition Arc
578:Z's Ambition ArcAnother one ?
You know, the two world's are established as being completely seperate to the point where too many crossovers might cause a quantum singularity.
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@No:
Another one ?
You know, the two world's are established as being completely seperate to the point where too many crossovers might cause a quantum singularity.
No. He's counting the total amount of fillers we've had this year.
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@Galaxy:
No. He's counting the total amount of fillers we've had this year.
Oh
Derp.
But yeah, we need more fillers. Heck even stuff like Goat Island was enjoyable, even somewhat endearing for it's more humble setting and characters. Can we get back to having stuff like that please ?
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Well…...that was a pretty good episode.
No art foul-ups, pacing was fine, but what I think what made me like it.....was the music. It was good hearing "To the Grand Line!" again. The promise to Shirahoshi scene came out really well (half because the music), so there's that.
Couple of notes:
- I like We Go!, but maybe Toei can cut back on using it when they head to a new island. Aren't we due for a new opening, soon?
- Jinbei's VA is officially one of my favorites. I cannot picture anyone else voice him, not even the late Gori-san.
And I'm fine with filler. Anything to space out between the manga and anime. What with the story being in between islands, it's the perfect chance.
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Only five.
542: Special Toriko - One Piece Crossover
575:Z's Ambition Arc
576:Z's Ambition Arc
577:Z's Ambition Arc
578:Z's Ambition ArcNo Maam is right, ep 577-578 aren't part of the Z ambition arc, maybe it will be fillers, maybe not, we don't have their titles,
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What is this Z's Ambition arc stuff? Some background filler for the movie? Was this in the manga?
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What is this Z's Ambition arc stuff? Some background filler for the movie?
exactly, like the ones that aired before SW movie theather release.
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@Chibi:
No Maam is right, ep 577-578 aren't part of the Z ambition arc, maybe it will be fillers, maybe not, we don't have their titles,
but if it's filler, it will not be in the Z ambitionAre you sure? Someone translated the scan and said that it said it was a four episode filler.
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Well if we have some movie prequel fillers then I guess I'll be fine with that… as long as they go straight onto Punk Hazard afterward.
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@Galaxy:
Are you sure? Someone translated the scan and said that it said it was a four episode filler.
wow i missed that, my apology, but:
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if it's true why the ep 577-78 titles haven't been given in the same time than for the ep 575-76 ?
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if it's true, it does mean ep 577-78 will air after the date release of the Z movie, and it doesn't make sense as this episodes are kind of prologue for the movie :/
all 4 ep from SW's arc aired before the movie release in dec 2009, and it"s a lot more logical like that.
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Great episode I realy like this one to the ussop/chopper negativity to the silence moment between jinbei and luffy and wow shirahoshi looked realy prety when isn't crying 24/7 straigth on side note if the two episodes mentioned after z episodes are fillier i realy hope are the decks of the world
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@Chibi:
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if it's true why the ep 577-78 titles haven't been given in the same time than for the ep 575-76 ?
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if it's true, it does mean ep 577-78 will air after the date release of the Z movie, and it doesn't make sense :/
all 4 ep from SW's arc aired before the movie release in dec 2009, and it"s a lot more logical like that.
Maybe it won't be necessary to watch in order to understand Z? That's the only logical reason I could see them doing it for.
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@Vegard:
…So, are they going to play We Go every time the Straw Hats set off for a new destination from now on? I mean, they did it when they dove into the ocean to head to Fishman Island too (as well as the episode before that again…) Granted, it worked pretty well and did a great job hyping up the fact that after all these years they're finally about to enter the New World, but still… Also some of the art near the end (Jinbe's laughing and some of the characters' eyes during the We Go-sequence) looked a bit off... But other than that, this episode was pretty great.
While I also think it should be used a bit less, I can sorta see what Toei is going for here. The We Go usage in the series' second half sorta hearkens back to the first half of the series when they would play We Are during alot of the important moments. (Reverse Mountain scene, Sign of Friendship scene, Knock Up stream scene, "I'll get stronger" scene, ect.)
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@Chibi:
wow i missed that, my apology, but:
- if it's true why the ep 577-78 titles haven't been given in the same time than for the ep 575-76 ?
because it always works that way? we get titles around 7th of each month. 576 airs on 9th december, so evertyhing is as always.
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@Dahaka.:
because it always works that way? we get titles around 7th of each month. 576 airs on 9th december, so evertyhing is as always.
574 airs on 11/25/12 - Chapter 654
575 airs on 12/2/12 - Z Filler
576 airs on 12/9/12 - Z FillerThey gave the titles for the first two episodes, but not the second two.
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! Law is almost here I can't wait!
You do know that not everyone here reads the manga right?
I don't even know why I bother sometimes..
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@Galaxy:
574 airs on 11/25/12 - Chapter 654
575 airs on 12/2/12 - Z Filler
576 airs on 12/9/12 - Z FillerThey gave the titles for the first two episodes, but not the second two.
Yes, that is what I said. We will get next two around 7th december, along with titles for rest of december and maybe beginning of january, as always
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So on new years well get Punk hazrd?
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@Money:
So on new years well get Punk hazrd?
The 30th will probably be a New Year special of some sorts. Someone who has been watching the anime longer can probably answer you better though.
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@Galaxy:
The 30th will probably be a New Year special of some sorts. Someone who has been watching the anime longer can probably answer you better though.
nop, the anime is on break between christmas and the new Year every year (on break last year, in 2010, 2009, 2008,….), so there are 95% we get a break this year too.
If there are 4 ep Z ambition's arc ep (2-9-16-23/12), punk hazard will start the 6/01
ps: all the years you can be sure to have one break in middle summer at the end of july - beginning of august, and one another between christmas - new year. sometimes there are others breaks, but this two always remains.
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Do we have a count on the amount this year?
Doing a quick count… there have been 43 chapters in the past year. That accounts for 9 weeks with no chapter (including both breaks for the author and breaks for the magazine).
< / 3 hope not…
I've been waiting for animated Punk Hazard episodes for ages@nodensuke:
I think it'd be a pretty big kick in the pants to start the New World with filler. Maybe that's just me though.
Something got mixed up somewhere. We already know the New World is going to start with filler (the Z stuff). Whether there's more after that is anyone's guess, but it will be easier to write in now (since the mechanic for filler will already be in place) than it will be after the next saga starts. Most OP filler that's worth anything happens in between sagas. Otherwise you end up with things like flashback summaries. But there can be stuff like Coby's coverstory or the extra episodes with Ace crossing the desert as well.
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This is actually the first time in a while (not counting the time-skip) where fillers can be easily placed. All of the previous arcs continued right after the other since Sabody.
I'm hoping we get to see cover stories animated at some point. Even if they are short specials or OVAs.
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Doing a quick count… there have been 43 chapters in the past year. That accounts for 9 weeks with no chapter (including both breaks for the author and breaks for the magazine).
Something got mixed up somewhere. We already know the New World is going to start with filler (the Z stuff). Whether there's more after that is anyone's guess, but it will be easier to write in now (since the mechanic for filler will already be in place) than it will be after the next saga starts. Most OP filler that's worth anything happens in between sagas. Otherwise you end up with things like flashback summaries. But there can be stuff like Coby's coverstory or the extra episodes with Ace crossing the desert as well.
Well, I'm not really counting Z's ambition as filler as it's sole purpose is to tie into the movie, same with Luffy's special. To me this movie takes place after PH..
If it's not..! Are we supposed to beleive that they surface and traverse a ton through out the New World to reach those Islands Z is going to before PH? Smoker's waiting to ambush them, and if this were to take place directly after FI…Is he just supposed to patiently wait around during this movie time-line?
I just think it's the worst time to throw filler in..This arc started off so great because of how it was introduced.
! If they don't surface and have a sea of fire surrounding them/their den den mushi crying, I'm gonna be pissed.
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@nodensuke:
Well, I'm not really counting Z's ambition as filler as it's sole purpose is to tie into the movie, same with Luffy's special.
! Are we supposed to beleive that they surface and traverse a ton through out the New World to reach those Islands Z is going to before PH? Smoker's waiting to ambush them, and if thise were to take place directly after FI…Is he just supposed to patiently wait around during this movie time-line?
To me this movie takes place after PHI just think it's the worst time to throw filler in..This arc started off so great because of how it was introduced.
! If they don't surface and have a sea of fire surrounding them/their den den mushi crying, I'm gonna be pissed.
What'll probably happen is
! the whales will take them to the filler island and then they'll hitch a ride back to PH. Best way to do it IMO. Kind of like how they used the octopus balloon twice.
Or it'll be like Little East Blue and they will rise up in the fire sea, and then in the next episode be somewhere else.
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@Galaxy:
What'll probably happen is
! the whales will take them to the filler island and then they'll hitch a ride back to PH. Best way to do it IMO. Kind of like how they used the octopus balloon twice.
! Yeah..But the Octo Balloon was actually plausible and worked.
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@nodensuke:
! Smoker's waiting to ambush them, and if this were to take place directly after FI…Is he just supposed to patiently wait around during this movie time-line?
! Well, yeah? He's been waiting for a couple of days in the manga, right? What's 2-3 more?
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! Did anyone else consider the fact that there were two other islands around Punk Hazard. I know the whole thing with the new log complicates it a bit, but I expected those islands to play some role in filler since I doubt Oda will show them in the manga.
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@nodensuke:
Well, I'm not really counting Z's ambition as filler as it's sole purpose is to tie into the movie, same with Luffy's special. To me this movie takes place after PH..
If it's not..Wasn't it specifically said otherwise? That the movie would be positioned between FI and PH?
! Are we supposed to beleive that they surface and traverse a ton through out the New World to reach those Islands Z is going to before PH? Smoker's waiting to ambush them, and if this were to take place directly after FI…Is he just supposed to patiently wait around during this movie time-line?
! Smoker's waiting to ambush them at the wrong place and waiting for any updates with absolutely no clue when Luffy will actually surface. The idea that Luffy would spend a couple extra days on FI after everything that happened should be within reason. He'll learn Luffy's location when he intercepts the den den mushi communication. But I don't see why it matters what else Luffy does before that as far as Smoker's character is concerned.
! I'm not sure if it'd work with the actual movie itself, but that's nothing new. Strong World didn't really fit anywhere either.I just think it's the worst time to throw filler in..This arc started off so great because of how it was introduced.
Lol no, not even close. The worst time would be interrupting the climax of an arc. The space between arcs logically makes the most sense.
! If they don't surface and have a sea of fire surrounding them/their den den mushi crying, I'm gonna be pissed.
! If they surface at a different burning island, then nothing will really be different at all. The den den mushi thing was a bit delayed anyway. Were you pissed that they landed in a Marine base when they came down from Skypeia? The manga certainly had them landing somewhere else, and they promptly got attacked by the sea monkeys that started Foxy's arc.
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The only problem with a filler that I might see as of now would happen if ODA has planned to have any of the SH crew on or very near to whole cake island by the time of Big Mom`s "tea party" and the filler takes over 2 or 3 days. Then the time-space continuity of the manga and anime would crash forming Chaos and destroying whatever it touches.
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The only problem with a filler that I might see as of now would happen if ODA has planned to have any of the SH crew on or very near to whole cake island by the time of Big Mom`s "tea party" and the filler takes over 2 or 3 days. Then the time-space continuity of the manga and anime would crash forming Chaos and destroying whatever it touches.
No Franky already thought of that.
Thousand Sunny will use 6 barrels of cola to create a coup DElorean burst of 88 mph and travel into the past where they meet themselves in the past, this is when Franky shares his plans of time travel and the future Strawhats kill themselves as their versions from the past take their place and head back into the future directly to the tea party.
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No Franky already thought of that.
Thousand Sunny will use 6 barrels of cola to create a coup DElorean burst of 88 mph and travel into the past where they meet themselves in the past, this is when Franky shares his plans of time travel and the future Strawhats kill themselves as their versions from the past take their place and head back into the future directly to the tea party.
Of course we haven`t had a "Back to the future" reference in OP, have we?
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pacing people, pacing D:
It might just be a couple of episodes, but dammit I want Punk Hazard to be glorifying as it is in the manga. Not slow. D:
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Next week seems to be the typical Straw Hats messing around on the Sunny episode. Those are my favorite kinds. Can't wait!
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@400MillionBelis:
pacing people, pacing D:
It might just be a couple of episodes, but dammit I want Punk Hazard to be glorifying as it is in the manga. Not slow. D:
No reason to get your hopes up for any fast pacing. This filler is most likely to make up for the gap they lost with the numerous breaks and faster pacing at the end of FI. If I recall they had a good 41 chapter gap and now are at 35. Although it does open up the chances of getting some good pacing during the action, but it's very unlikely.
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Of course we haven`t had a "Back to the future" reference in OP, have we?
Only thing I can think of is the steam engine train from BTTF and the Rocketman from Enies Lobby :P
Hope Vegapunk has some nice surprises when he finally joins the main story line. Maybe he looks a bit like doc
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The Zoro/Sanji moment was better done in the manga.
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@400MillionBelis:
pacing people, pacing D:
It might just be a couple of episodes, but dammit I want Punk Hazard to be glorifying as it is in the manga. Not slow. D:
Four filler episodes won't make up for all the breaks Oda has taken unfortunately. Pacing of Punk Hazard won't really be affected by this.
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The Zoro/Sanji moment was better done in the manga.
I agree. I wonder why the felt the need to change that because it looks a lot funnier in the manga.