the neverending fight against Freezer
Wasn't the fight against frieza around 2 volumes long (from his first form till he dies) ?
That's not neverending.
the neverending fight against Freezer
Wasn't the fight against frieza around 2 volumes long (from his first form till he dies) ?
That's not neverending.
Wasn't the fight against frieza around 2 volumes long (from his first form till he dies) ?
That's not neverending.
Probably talking about the anime.
The entire battle against Freeza started in Volume 25 and ended in Volume 27, so 3. The anime on the other hand, was episodes 75 - 107, 33 episodes. Kai was around 20 episodes. Still if you're talking about "never-ending" then I'd be talking about the original anime as well.
The entire battle against Freeza started in Volume 25 and ended in Volume 27, so 3. The anime on the other hand, was episodes 75 - 107, 33 episodes. Kai was around 20 episodes. Still if you're talking about "never-ending" then I'd be talking about the original anime as well.
That damn Genkidama took like 4 episodes or something to fully charge and use lol.
…I'm just going to point out my AV here on the left.
Dragon Ball had a SIGNIFICANT hold on Oda in wanting to become a magnaka... so you should probably thank Toriyama for that. ( I also remember reading that info somewhere as well... )
I'm sure Toriko's Magnaka was the same way, at least in some aspect.
Yeah,out of all the modern shounen manga I've read,One Piece and Toriko seem to be the ones most directly inspired by Dragon Ball.You know,the whole wonderful adventures in the whimsical cartoony world sort of thing and the overall atmosphere.
If we are talking about ridiculous power scaling I would say Toriko and co. are nearly at the level of Dragon Ball characters when Vegeta first invaded Earth.
Don't take me wrong, I loved DB and still hold it dearly to this day, but that formula is not one to imitate. Any manga that tries to follow those steps is going to grow stale at alarming speed.
I repeat myself: in Toriko we know there are these crazy overpowered guys since the beginning of the series (Knocking Master Jirou appeared in chapter 8), so where's the problem about the great power scaling through the arcs? Ichiryuu left his gourmet cells sleeping till his encounter with Midora at Bishokukai headquarter in Gourmet World, but his real power was present, dormant but present. And so Midora's or Jirou's.
In Toriko there's no issues like "Freezer is the most powerful being in the entire universe but in one narrative arc all the main characters and all the main bosses will be ridiculously much powerful than him".
Ichiryuu, Midora and Jirou represent the hypothetical top since the beginning/middle of the series, and probably they will be the top at the end too.
The real good thing about Toriko and its power scaling is that not only the good fellas undergo an incredible power growth but the bad guys too. So Midora, the top villain, is still growing so much. And the same goes for Ichiryuu.
I owe Toriyama for being an inspiration to Oda, Shima and others, but I didn't like Dragon Ball that much neither in the first days.
Dragon Ball is the progenitor of our favourite modern shonen mangas but I like many of them much more than it. Toriko and One Piece is on my top list.
Wow, to think people would have an argument over Dragon Ball here. Guess what - it's you, the fans, who created Dragon Ball arcs after the Freeza saga. It's you who wanted more of the same and the manga not to end, so of course Akira got repetitive after a while, he only planned the series up to the whole Namek deal.
Wasn't the fight against frieza around 2 volumes long (from his first form till he dies) ?
That's not neverending.
Yes, I was talking about the anime in that one. The anime catched the manga publication and Toei started to make episodes where Goku and Freezer stood watching at each other during 20'. That was not Toriyama's fault of course, stupid characters and fusions on the Boo saga were, though.
Right now in Toriko we have monsters that wipe armies, split the earth apart and break buildings like they are made of carboard (and the main characters must be strong enough to fight them). And on top of that the 4 beast is only small fry compared to those in the Gourmet World. Of course Dragon Ball is an important influence in today shonen works, but I'm just saying that it may be dangerous to follow its steps too closely. Crazy power levels can kill the mood of a manga.
Again, we knew since the beginning there were some crazy overpowered guys. And during the Surprise Apple chapter we learned that the "Magic Trio" (Midora, Jirou, Ichiryuu) was able to perform features as scary/powerful as a planet sized asteroid hitting the world.
Yes, I was talking about the anime in that one. The anime catched the manga publication and Toei started to make episodes where Goku and Freezer stood watching at each other during 20'. That was not Toriyama's fault of course, stupid characters and fusions on the Boo saga were, though.
Oh my bad then, i was misled by what you said about Boo before.
Yeah, everybody who expects the series to not reach a insane power scale is in for disappointment. Like the guy above me said, at least three are confirmed as potential life wipers, and I'm expecting FTL reactions and even crazier durability as the manga goes on.
I'm fine with it, for me that's pretty much why I read the series anyway. The plots alright, some interesting characters, but I read this for very shallow reasons anyway. I guess for the same reasons some enjoy Kill Bill, it may be nothing more than a highly stylized revenge flick, but it's doing the visuals so damn right that it's hard for someone to dislike it, especially If you're already into this kind of shit.
Or just imagine Kongoh Banchou or Hokuto no Ken, if you don't know Kill Bill.
Eh, the plot in the early chapters show that Toriko, throughout the series, would have to get a HUGE burst of power. Even then, right now his fated enemy in the series AT THIS POINT is Starjun. He was the first enemy he had nearly died too, they have met multiple times, and even foreshadowed again in the recent Bubble Fruit arch. Grimj and Tommyrod have both been missing since their big battles earlier in the series… Starjun has been a frequent appearance since the beginning.
We're not even looking at main villain power levels yet, he's still working on even reaching a underling.
It could be that Starjun is already one of the strongest members of the Bishokukai. In fact Toriko doubts himself about being able to reach, in the future, the power level of the Bishokukai Vice-Head Chef. Moreover, Toriko claims there are a very few people in the world with the power of Starjun. I think he will be the main villain of Toriko in the late future, not Midora. This one will fight to the death against Ichiryuu and maybe Jirou, and all of them will die fighting.
It could be that Starjun is already one of the strongest members of the Bishokukai. In fact Toriko doubts himself about being able to reach, in the future, the power level of the Bishokukai Vice-Head Chef. Moreover, Toriko claims there are a very few people in the world with the power of Starjun. I think he will be the main villain of Toriko in the late future, not Midora. This one will fight to the death against Ichiryuu and maybe Jirou, and all of them will die fighting.
This very well may be. It is hinted heavily that Starjun could be hiding something more powerful than anyone else, and also hinted at in a past chapter at the restaurant they met him in… he is currently looking for a undefined food item for himself to eat. We'll see how this goes, the plot at this point could go any direction.
I'm quite convinced that Midora is the strongest character in the entire series (exept for Acacia and maybe Frohze, maybe, mostly because we don't know anything about the abilities of the legendary Combo), it's hinted that he maybe even stronger than Ichiryuu since Setsuno was so surprised that the last was eating so much to revive all of his sleeping Gourmet Cells, due to Midora's growth being far greater than expected. But, as I early said, I think both of them will die during their fight for GOD, and with them maybe Jirou will die too. So the number one candidate to be the main Toriko antagonist is precisely Starjun, and we got some reasons way: he's now far stronger than Toriko and, despite the GT Robo fight during the Jewel Meat arc, he seems to be almost unattainable; he's a true evil bastard without any scruples nor morality, though he has the features of the "classic" dark and handsome evil guy (but we know he's a true evil guy, hiding something even to his Boss).
But the distance between him and Midora seems to be very big, indeed he's considered only a stepping stone by Ootake.
By the way, in your opinion, guys, which are the strongest characters seen in the series till now? I'm very curious about Kousairou and Yuda abilities: the first seems to be one the 0th Biotope strongest members, the last seems incredibily strong after the words of Toriko (it seems he can defend himself by and defeat the Four Beast alone).
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! Talking about exponential growth
Oh my God
–-are we supossed to have spoilers now?? i saw nothing but text under that spoiler tag
If that spoiler is real that's just insane lol :D
! It shows an image with Rin terrified after seeing the capture level (of the real Four Beast, I assume) measured raising from 310 to 320
Seems like it's working now, maybe the URL has changed or something.
And it's from mangahelpers.
Noooo! Must not read spoilers!
I didn't see the spoilers because i can't see anything on projectelf's message nor do i want, but something big happens uh? Awesome
By the way, i just saw the Toriko special ( well, only part of it, actually ), and i wish the anime was like this:
1:31 is just fangasmic.
I blame you Toei :getlost:
Yeah I really wish they had gone with that sort of mood for the weekly show. Dark, ominous, less silly in some ways. Really awesome animation, better direction.
Instead we got
Guys I hope you know they show toriko for kids like five and up.
Where's that video showing kindergarten kids in japan dancing in fron of the Toriko opening?
! http://www.ishuhui.com/thread-19040-1-1.html
Talk about ownage
@Sonic:
Guys I hope you know they show toriko for kids like five and up.
Where's that video showing kindergarten kids in japan dancing in fron of the Toriko opening?
Sure but hey it's still supposed to be a shounen.
And again i don't know what happened but those new generations became pussies.
I mean
<<<
@Sonic:
Guys I hope you know they show toriko for kids like five and up.
Where's that video showing kindergarten kids in japan dancing in fron of the Toriko opening?
I know that's the route they decided to go with for some weird reason. Still can lament over it though.
lulz @ the size of the Dharma Horse…
Chinese scanlation for those that want to see
http://www.ishuhui.com/thread-19040-1-1.html
! Everyone has been complete and utterly demolished.
Don't fret everyone…I'm sure there are some magic beans somewhere...out there. XD
Don't fret everyone…I'm sure there are some magic beans somewhere...out there. XD
We haven't reach DBZ level… yet. >->
Doesn't eating anything in this series cause the same affect pretty much?
We haven't reach DBZ level… yet. >->
Didn't we reached that lvl a long time ago during the jewel meat arc?…lol
Majin... I mean 4 Bu...Beast getting powered up resulting to an overwhelming upturn of events causing devastating damage to the Z warrio...I mean 4 Heavenly Kings.
Just you watch, those beans will appear. XD
Doesn't eating anything in this series cause the same affect pretty much?
Yes. They do.
The perspective on Coco and Sani looked odd, they were both bigger than Toriko on that page of their backs looking out across the city.
Just you watch, those beans will appear. XD
Teppei works with beans, in effect…
Anyway, I noticed just now: during the Century Soup arc, in Ice Hell, Teppei is one of the few people whose breathe isn't white, so it could be that he was able to enter Gourmet World at least since then.
http://www.batoto.net/read/_/129641/toriko_ch202_by_hi-wa-mata-noboru chapter's out
! I'm guessing they'll all have to coordinate their attacks together to win. But this seems like it'll be very entertaining
Chapter is out. The Four Beast sure laid down the law there.
Lv 320? Oh my god.
Frankly - I'd love to see a little DB and Toriko crossover. I mean Goku at his beginning-of-DBZ level would be perfect for this series standards (or even underpowered).
Well, that was an ownage.
I guess next chapter we'll gonna see other characters that are there trying to fight. Mansam already hinted that he would act and I guess when most humans are in that place, a few more faces we already know could pop up too.
Or Zonge gives the beast it's finishing blow. :X
So they're gonna cook for several hundred million people at least while being only four ? And in one kitchen ? On top of a skyscraper ?
I kinda think the whole green rain thing spreading as much as it did wasn't a realy good move, writing wise.
Wooo. What an assbeating lol. Good stuff. I wonder if the Kings will do a Docking to beat it lmao.
Ewww, Toriko wants to eat the 4 Beast.
That thing looks disgusting.
@No:
So they're gonna cook for several hundred million people at least while being only four ? And in one kitchen ? On top of a skyscraper ?
I kinda think the whole green rain thing spreading as much as it did wasn't a realy good move, writing wise.
Komatsu may finally get to show what mastering food honor has done for him. Plus they could always use the other Kitchens in the gourmet tower.
Ewww, Toriko wants to eat the 4 Beast.
That thing looks disgusting.
- Humans are it's nutrients, it throws up green clouds that produce green rain, and it's a buffed up root thing.
Not to mention it probably has half devoured people in it's stomach.
Sani really got obliterated this chapter. Everyone else was kind of bloodied up, whereas Sani was beaten to the point of being unrecognizable. Ouch.
I´m guessing the antidote for the Green Rain will be spread the same way the disease is. Would be beyond difficult to locate millions of infected people and give them dishes.
I really hope we get to see other characters next ep. I´m still waiting to see if Cedre, Bogey and Barry made it to the GW X___X