That theory is supercalifragilisticexpialidociously old news.
Well it's news to me :O
EDIT: And holy shit 43 pages? It's restless here!
That theory is supercalifragilisticexpialidociously old news.
Well it's news to me :O
EDIT: And holy shit 43 pages? It's restless here!
I've always had that idea in mind ever since I saw the awakened Zoans. I only chose just now to mention it. I wasn't 100% sure of it.
I feel like the obvious answer is that it is, but you never know. You'd think Chopper's awakened would be a full human, but I guess that's not very intimidating. Sometimes, I feel like giving Chopper the Hito Hito no mi was pointless because he never really looks that human, except for maybe during heavy point or horn point version 2 (just because he looks like his "human" age there). I also understand that it lets him speak and it gives him intelligence. I have no problem with Chopper at all, he's a favourite character and the reindeer-eating-human-fruit thing makes him unique, and I also like Chopper coming to terms with his being a "monster", but still, Oda could have easily taken a human, had him eat the Deer Deer Fruit - Model: Reindeer and still have done everything with that person that he has done with Chopper thus far. At least Devil Fruit-wise, not plot-wise (i.e. Chopper's dream and background and all that).
Chopper ate the Human Human Zoan. How is his Beast form in any way an "awakened" form of being a human? It's a giant beast that looks like a cross between a Yeti and a reindeer. Are you implicitly saying a Yeti is an "Awakened" human? An "Awakened" form, to me, implies an evolved or an "Advanced" form, not essentially the equivalent of a devolved caveman…deer. For Chopper, that's Brain Point.
I plead blindness, I am not that retarded. I think… I hope
It's not as crazy as you're implying. By the end of the series Luffy is going to have to be the strongest character in One Piece yet atm he's nowhere near Admiral and especially Yonkou level. If Luffy can catch up to Blackbeard (who was gaining strength during the TS much like Luffy) and Shanks, then I'm sure Coby can become an Admiral and come close/catch up to Luffy. As for Helmeppo he never had a goal, Coby's goal was to be an Admiral. Also I think Coby atm wouldn't be one shotted by Luffy, I think he'd be able to take a few blows because he could use CoO to actually dodge.
You know that admirals are absolute top tiers as Akainu?
If Coby reaches this goal to the time Luffy, Zoro, SNs and co willfight the likes as Akainu, KiZaru, MIhawk or BB they would look absolutely stupid.
Even more after they trained their asses off for 2 years… I'm not saying that Coby will be owned with one punch BUT he shouldn't be in the same ballpark as Luffy, Zoro, current admirals, SN, to the time this generation is fighting for the title... AFTER Luffy beat all the main people and becomes PK, yeah Luffy will become an admiral at the end
@Fire Fist:
Chopper ate the Human Human Zoan. How is his Beast form in any way an "awakened" form of being a human? It's a giant beast that looks like a cross between a Yeti and a reindeer. Are you implicitly saying a Yeti is an "Awakened" human? An "Awakened" form, to me, implies an evolved or an "Advanced" form, not essentially the equivalent of a devolved caveman…deer. For Chopper, that's Brain Point.
Well, if you look at my last post, I also mentioned that it would make more sense that Chopper's awakened form be a human. But I also said that Oda hasn't really made Chopper's forms very human so far, aside from one or two. i get that 4 of them don't really have to be, because they are artificial, but his heavy point should be a full human, and it's not. I'm not saying Monster Point is his awakened, but it would be a little anti-climactic if Oda decides for Chopper to reach his awakened, only for it to be some human. I guess if it's a really beastly human, something like his heavy point, it would make more sense, but Oda wouldn't have much to work with. Btw, I was confused with that last sentence. Are you saying that Brain Point is Chopper's awakened?
EDIT: If Oda can find a way to make Chopper reach an awakened state that is full human and really cool, I'm all for it.
Regarding the "awakened" state of a zoan type, I don't see Chopper getting a full human form for it, or at all..I think it's also a pretty safe bet to assume Sengoku is an example of one, but we barely got to see/didn't get an explanation for his ability..
But, given the limited information about the "awakened" state, and from what we've already seen of normal zoan abilities, Chopper seems to be pretty close to that state if you ask me.. He can freely use 6 forms (a 7th with a rumble ball), where normal zoans can really only use 2 types of transformation..
I don't see having control of his monster point as being "awakened" either, but I'm curious to see what taking 2-3 rumble balls will do now..
Btw, I was confused with that last sentence. Are you saying that Brain Point is Chopper's awakened?
EDIT: If Oda can find a way to make Chopper reach an awakened state that is full human and really cool, I'm all for it.
No, I'm saying that Brain Point would be something along the lines of what I would expect an "Awakened" Human to be. Chopper is one of the smartest Strawhats, he's just naive, so him as an "Awakened" Human would look something like a human Doctor with only the vaguest of Reindeer qualities, if any, and possessing the analytic capabilities of Brain Point. That would be how I picture his "Awakened" form.
I think it's also a pretty safe bet to assume Sengoku is an example of one, but we barely got to see/didn't get an explanation for his ability..
Yellow Databook lists his fruit as the Hito Hito no Mi, Model: Daibatsu. It's not an awakened form, it's just a legendary Zoan like Marco's.
@Fire Fist:
No, I'm saying that Brain Point would be something along the lines of what I would expect an "Awakened" Human to be. Chopper is one of the smartest Strawhats, he's just naive, so him as an "Awakened" Human would look something like a human Doctor with only the vaguest of Reindeer qualities, if any, and possessing the analytic capabilities of Brain Point. That would be how I picture his "Awakened" form.
Oh, so you mean that the awakened state doesn't necessarily have to increase your physical capabilities? I guess so. I think that's plausible. I still think it would be kind of a let down after we saw how monstrous those awakened zoans were at ID, but I wouldn't mind that. It would make more sense, definitely.
@Fire Fist:
Yellow Databook lists his fruit as the Hito Hito no Mi, Model: Daibatsu. It's not an awakened form, it's just a legendary Zoan like Marco's.
Yes, I know the model type, and that it's a legendary. None of that really makes a difference to what I said..
He still could be an example of an "awakened" zoan, we just don't know yet..It may not have been stated as it was with the ID guards, but it's still a possibility.
@nodensuke:
Yes, I know the model type, and that it's a legendary. None of that really makes a difference to what I said..
He still could be an example of an "awakened" zoan, we just don't know yet..It may not have been stated as it was with the ID guards, but it's still a possibility.
I don't think so. The ID guards don't seem to be able to change back, and have lost any signs of human intelligence (Assuming they're originally human). At this point, I think the chances of Sengoku being an awakened zoan are just as good as any other zoan devil fruit user.
I don't think so. The ID guards don't seem to be able to change back, and have lost any signs of human intelligence (Assuming they're originally human). At this point, I think the chances of Sengoku being an awakened zoan are just as good as any other zoan devil fruit user.
Well to be fair, they are WG property basically and we know nothing about any of them..They could have been experimented on to be like that…Sadi treated them like pets, not humans.
But, if that is true about them..I guess the monster point theory makes sense, especially now that Chopper has control over it.
@nodensuke:
Well to be fair, they are WG property basically and we know nothing about any of them..They could have been experimented on to be like that…Sadi treated them like pets, not humans.
But, if that is true about them..I guess the monster point theory makes sense, especially now that Chopper has control over it.
Again, how is a Neanderthal-looking Reindeer Monster an "Awakened" Human? The Awakened forms imply that they have completely entered a full Zoan state with almost no characteristics of their original form. The Awakened Zoans in ID were human in stature, only. Otherwise, they were mindless animals of their particular species with super strength. Chopper is a reindeer that ate the HUMAN fruit, not the reverse. Which means that his "Awakened" state would have all human traits, with no reindeer traits. It implies advanced capabilities. I doubt Oda is going for some dark, existential message here by making a Neanderthal Reindeer-man his "Awakened" HUMAN form.
@Fire Fist:
Again, how is a Neanderthal-looking Reindeer Monster an "Awakened" Human? The Awakened forms imply that they have completely entered a full Zoan state with almost no characteristics of their original form. The Awakened Zoans in ID were human in stature, only. Otherwise, they were mindless animals of their particular species with super strength. Chopper is a reindeer that ate the HUMAN fruit, not the reverse. Which means that his "Awakened" state would have all human traits, with no reindeer traits. It implies advanced capabilities. I doubt Oda is going for some dark, existential message here by making a Neanderthal Reindeer-man his "Awakened" HUMAN form.
I wouldn't use that as proof that Chopper's awakened state should be completely human. Those guards did not look completely like their specific animal. I agreed to the possibility of a super-intelligent human, but he can easily become a person the size of the guards with a super dopey look just like them.
@Fire Fist:
Again, how is a Neanderthal-looking Reindeer Monster an "Awakened" Human? The Awakened forms imply that they have completely entered a full Zoan state with almost no characteristics of their original form. The Awakened Zoans in ID were human in stature, only. Otherwise, they were mindless animals of their particular species with super strength. Chopper is a reindeer that ate the HUMAN fruit, not the reverse. Which means that his "Awakened" state would have all human traits, with no reindeer traits. It implies advanced capabilities. I doubt Oda is going for some dark, existential message here by making a Neanderthal Reindeer-man his "Awakened" HUMAN form.
Which is why in my first post I said I don't consider it being that..
We know nothing about them though, aside from what Crocodile has said..And again, they could have been experimented on.
Someone deleted my comment, but left all the other off-topic comments. :ninja:
Someone deleted my comment, but left all the other off-topic comments. :ninja:
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There there…
Don't worry.
Chapter tomorrow.
I CAN ALMOST TASTE IT!
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...ohwait that's just the lingering taste of HEAT.
URTWUASFHWK
carry on.
zachri where do you live?
You know that admirals are absolute top tiers as Akainu?
If Coby reaches this goal to the time Luffy, Zoro, SNs and co willfight the likes as Akainu, KiZaru, MIhawk or BB they would look absolutely stupid.
Even more after they trained their asses off for 2 years… I'm not saying that Coby will be owned with one punch BUT he shouldn't be in the same ballpark as Luffy, Zoro, current admirals, SN, to the time this generation is fighting for the title... AFTER Luffy beat all the main people and becomes PK, yeah Luffy will become an admiral at the end
Not to detract from the magic of storytelling, but Coby WILL play a huge part in this story's "end game." He was the first real character introduced during Luffy's hero quest. He has been re-injected into the story multiple times. Each time showing a significant growth in strength. The most recent being that his Haki was awakened early, BY LUFFY! His strength will grow much quicker than anyone else we've met so far. He will be a very important part of the series finale. It's all Joeseph Campbell, baby! "You always end at the beginning."
Had a dream about the next chapter…
The key point I remember is, at the end, Doflamingo meets with Kaido(u) for some reason--Kaido(u), who, is a dwarf with cybernetic arms and cybernetics legs. The chapter was called "675: The Ultimate Cyborg! A Yonko on the move!" I'm tripping balls...
"676: Donflamingo is mad! Everyone is dead!"
Not to detract from the magic of storytelling, but Coby WILL play a huge part in this story's "end game." He was the first real character introduced during Luffy's hero quest. He has been re-injected into the story multiple times. Each time showing a significant growth in strength. The most recent being that his Haki was awakened early, BY LUFFY! His strength will grow much quicker than anyone else we've met so far. He will be a very important part of the series finale. It's all Joeseph Campbell, baby! "You always end at the beginning."
As I said… I doubt it and his growth is oveerstimated in my eyes. Seriously... He could do as much against War and EL Luffy as at the beginning of the series... Nothing... He was OHKOED twice. But people fapped over him using Soru.
But I of course don't doubt he will have a role in the final war but in my eyes he won't be at the same ballpark to the time Luffy and Co will fight over PK title or the world... After it when the world and marines will change... Yeah he will
677: Is this the end!? Sabo joins the battle!
"676: Donflamingo is mad! Everyone is dead!"
@The:
677: Is this the end!? Sabo joins the battle!
My face right now is the Gajeel in your signature, Lolman.
TLM, you should be Oda´s editor
TLM, you should be Oda´s editor
Ha! I wish… But Oda's leaps and bounds better than me when it comes to creativity (and editing).
It's nearly here,I can smell it! the new chapter
678: The shocking truth! Sabo is everyone! :ninja:
679: Punk Hazard sank! Royal Shichibukai Buggy enters the scene! :ninja:
It's nearly here,I can smell it! the new chapter
YES.
IT SMELLS DELICIOUS.
IT SMELLS LIKE…
tea.
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678: The shocking truth! Sabo is everyone! :ninja:
679: Punk Hazard sank! Royal Shichibukai Buggy enters the scene! :ninja:
680: Shocking development! The truth about Buggy's balls! :ninja:
680: Shocking development! The truth about Buggy's balls! :ninja:
Those sound like titles that Toei would use.
If we get this excited after a week break, how could we survive reading the final arc (which will probably be 50+ chapters) 1 chapter at a time?
I have something that's going to keep me busy all day, so I'm going to be distracted until tomorrow's chapter. Admittedly, it's not something I want to do, but what can you do.
681: A revelation! Doflamingo is Gol D. Roger's father!?
682: The One Piece revealed! A musical written by Gol D. Roger!?
@The:
681: A revelation! Doflamingo is Gol D. Roger's father!?
682: The One Piece revealed! A musical written by Gol D. Roger!?
Interesting. In just 3 chapters, the Straw Hats reach Raftel from Punk Hazard? Makes sense. I like it.
It was funny until you skipped all the way to Raftel.
Obviously…Sabo teleported the Strawhat's to Raftel. Well technically...since Sabo is everything (like stated in chapter 678), he IS Raftel. You people seriously need to keep up with the story.
less then 12 houers the new chapter i feel it i started fangasm my instinct are saying the chpter is epic
on side note SantoryuUser7 can you give me a link to your avatar pic it is awsome
@The:
Obviously…Sabo teleported the Strawhat's to Raftel. Well technically...since Sabo is everything (like stated in chapter 678), he IS Raftel. You people seriously need to keep up with the story.
Well, there's not much to keep up with in 3 chapters… :ninja:
Well, there's not much to keep up with in 3 chapters… :ninja:
And you call yourself a One Piece fan… shakes head
less then 12 houers the new chapter i feel it i started fangasm my instinct are saying the chpter is epic
on side note SantoryuUser7 can you give me a link to your avatar pic it is awsome
Sure. I don't remember exactly where I got it from, but I found it on Google Images and it's apparently on the Mangahelpers forum too.
Google Image: [http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa117/Stern1235/Manga Award 2011/RoronoaZoro.jpg](http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa117/Stern1235/Manga Award 2011/RoronoaZoro.jpg)
Forum link: http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php/74141-Best-Male-Support
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@The:
And you call yourself a One Piece fan… shakes head
Oh, you got me there. I didn't realize what I was talking. Oda is not like most mangaka.
Really though… I swear to you... I see Kaido(u) as a steampunk cyborg, and his crew as a steampunk crew.
He'll be a dwarf, of course (we NEED to see a dwarf in One Piece, considering they were on the list at the Slave House on SA), and of course love technology; have a freaking steampunk city and all that.
thanks SantoryuUser7
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it will be cool to have a steampunk sity in one piece but i think we have a dwarf in one piece big mam crow mate the one withe the big sowrd
If Kaidou is a cyborg and/or steampunk styled I will be happy > u <~
Would be awesome if the Strawhats had to dress steampunk.
thanks SantoryuUser7
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it will be cool to have a steampunk sity in one piece but i think we have a dwarf in one piece big mam crow mate the one withe the big sowrd
Youre the second person I
ve met in my entire life that spells sword like "sowrd".
thanks SantoryuUser7
No problem.
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@The:
Really though… I swear to you... I see Kaido(u) as a steampunk cyborg, and his crew as a steampunk crew.
http://ts4.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=4532453877023347&id=49680879b9a3726bac17a96db7e476d2
http://ts2.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=4685268791656937&id=6bc05c93511ec8995bae447233a470c3
http://ts3.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=4802242220983658&id=412215585c27176e9e82df4a6b771764
He'll be a dwarf, of course (we NEED to see a dwarf in One Piece, considering they were on the list at the Slave House on SA), and of course love technology; have a freaking steampunk city and all that.
That looks pretty cool. But if what we've seen of Kaidou's face so far is what he actually looks like now (which may not be the case i.e. Mig M(a/o)m) then I don't see him being a cyborg. But I'm all for it. Don't really care.
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