Awesome chapter. I wanna see the rest of the bishokukai (we still dont know if barry, bogey and cedre are now able to go to the gourmet world as well)
Also can´t wait to see how´re the beasts the four heavenly kings have to face now
Awesome chapter. I wanna see the rest of the bishokukai (we still dont know if barry, bogey and cedre are now able to go to the gourmet world as well)
Also can´t wait to see how´re the beasts the four heavenly kings have to face now
I never thought I would say this about this type of manga, but I think things are moving too fast. I mean, Shima could probably make the half a year manga time last a lot longer in real time, but I'm just afraid we might miss out on the potential for great world building through Gourmet World exploration.
So it seems The Four Heavenly Kings will fight these "Four Beasts" as their last test. Then the Cooking Fest will occur, then only a few months until the "eclipse", which sounds like a big deal. I wonder if that will be when the final battle occurs, or if it will just end up being a "round 1", so to speak.
Either way, very interesting chapter with lots of cool new character designs that rival the Bishokukai.
This is coming out of nowhere but what if Kousairou is Joa ? Tough i'm only basing it on the same posture they have and the fact that both know about atom.
People can easily change in Toriko (Jirou) and Joa was shown to be working with 2 unrelated people.
So he might be working as a double/triple agent too and the one leaking information.
This is coming out of nowhere but what if Kousairou is Joa ? Tough i'm only basing it on the same posture they have and the fact that both know about atom.
People can easily change in Toriko (Jirou) and Joa was shown to be working with 2 unrelated people.
So he might be working as a double/triple agent too and the one leaking information.
He did look kind of ominous on this page http://www.mangapanda.com/toriko/193/15. And Ichiryuu kind of just smiles back like he knows something, but can't prove it yet. It would make sense. Ichiryuu said he was "just kidding" when calling out the mole, but why would he do that if it didn't at least cross his mind? He said he was kidding, but he probably actually said it to draw out the mole, and it may have worked. You could be on to something. I guess we'll find out at the Cooking Fest.
In large part, what happens next could take a long time or a little time. But even AFTER the Eclipse, that only means the location of God becomes known. It doesn't mean anything important is ending. Shimabukuro wants to keep the pace of Toriko going and not feel like a fetch quest. Getting everything on Ichiryuu's list has been going for about 2 years now.
I'm looking forward to the Fest thing. Because then maybe we'll see some Bishokukai guys again, like the Branch officers.
I think it's possible that Kousairou could be in league with Joa, or that may be there to throw people off. Joa and the Jidar kign described themselves as "the ones with the best network of information." Remember, Joa told Colonel Mokkoi how to get the Century Soup. Which Bogeyuz had to disguise himself as that fat guy Drunker in order to learn. And Toriko had to go to Bar Heavy Lodge and learn it from the guy as well. If Joa's faction is that knowledgeable, they have to have many sources.
Dang this chapter's a huge one. This pretty much set up most of the plot for the series.
Any favorite designs/characters from the new chapter? Mailsman stood out for being the cutest girl so far in the series for me. I also liked Goblin Ramon and the Hermit.
! My notes while reading the chapter.
! * Gourmet Gang Leader: Guemon (Gourmet Hunter as well. This made me wonder though what's he the leader of? And why does he keep his position as leader?)
! * Center: The 8th ingredient. I guess Devil could be one of the others not named yet.
! The 0th Biotope people don't seem to know about Joa and that group, so they're a wild card. It's already been theorized they're the ones that told the Bishokukai about Center. And they also seem to know about Atom.
! And speaking of other parties, Jirou and Setsuno are absent from the 0th isotope. I wonder what role they'll play as well.
! I have no idea which storyline the author will attempt to handle first, but here's the plot points I got.
! * Komatsu's possible growth?
Yeah I'm worried about pacing too. On the flip side though, I think we've filled in a lot of the gaps in both the direction of the plot and overall world building this chapter. I'm just really hoping Shima will stop expanding the world and just spend time exploring what's already been established.
I realy liked this chapter, the best in quite a while. Only thing I'm a tiny bit dissapointed with, but that just may stem from my pedantic obsession with completionism, is that Love was the only IGO World Class Prison Warden there, but again, just minor nitpicking. My favourite is probably Tack.
I don't worry about the pacing, i'm sure the story won't end just when the Gourmet Eclipse shows up, i prefer a pace like Toriko's one way more than a really slow one like Bleach's, i don't deny that things could last a bit longer, either.
Regarding to the mole, maybe Kuribou was ordered to keep an eye on Kousairou, who knows.
PS: I am the only one who thought in Dudley from street fighter when i saw Rala? aside from the hairstyle, they're identical.
BTW, this is my first message on the forum ( i have been reading in it for many months ,though ), and i have to say it's a really good one :P
On this page Kousairou's face looks like he's got a GT robo inside him, lol. Probably not going to happen, but I thought of that right away when I saw the shape.
That Sakura guy looks like Saint Seiya.
I was sure i saw Sakura in this panel, took me some time to find it.
Only 3 are remaining.
…Malisman is going to turn out to be a dude, isn't s/he?
i hope the 4 beast will be inspired by the 4 legendary chinese guardian beast- green dragon, white tiger, black tortoise and Vermilion bird
I so love this Manga.
…Malisman is going to turn out to be a dude, isn't s/he?
Regardless, I'd like for a guy to be the 4th national treausure. We have 2 women, one person who may or may not be a woman, it clearly needs a manly man, like the others assembled there.
Also note, they aren't mentioning the 4th as not being present. Could it be that person is either unsocial or just missing ?
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Oh and this may just be my ignorance but why is Rala holding up three fingers when he says the earliest time for the Eclipse is in six months ?
i hope the 4 beast will be inspired by the 4 legendary chinese guardian beast- green dragon, white tiger, black tortoise and Vermilion bird
Thats kinda what I was thinking as well. Even though you could say the same thing about the 4 Heavenly Kings themselves, Toriko and Terry -> Byakko, Coco and Kiss -> Suzako, Sunny and Quinn -> could either be Genbu (generally depicted as a tortoise and snake) or Seiryuu (dragon). That would leave Zebra's inevitable pet to be either a tortoise or a dragon.
I like all these hints about ingridients - that Earth needs to be revived, that Ait needs a very special knife. And if they want to assemble the full course to not let Bishokukai get it, does that mean that all these ingredients are in very small quantities? Perhaps they also only appear during certain time, or in certain places.
Overall an awesome chapter with a lot of build ups.
And I think Kousairou may be blind. Judging from his name, his abilities might be connected to light. Maybe loss of eyes (but not vision, he may still have means to get light to his crystalline lens_)_ is connected to it.
@No:
Oh and this may just be my ignorance but why is Rala holding up three fingers when he says the earliest time for the Eclipse is in six months ?
Some sites translate him as saying "Half a year". Perhaps the Toriko world years are only 6 months. Or just the Human World, at least. Although Honey Prison showed us that they do have four seasons, so if it's only 6 months a year, it'd be 1.5 months a season.
He did look kind of ominous on this page http://www.mangapanda.com/toriko/193/15. And Ichiryuu kind of just smiles back like he knows something, but can't prove it yet. It would make sense. Ichiryuu said he was "just kidding" when calling out the mole, but why would he do that if it didn't at least cross his mind? He said he was kidding, but he probably actually said it to draw out the mole, and it may have worked. You could be on to something. I guess we'll find out at the Cooking Fest.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Ichiryuu was serious about one of them being a spy. That scene at the end where Kousairou volunteers was probably all he needed to confirm his suspicion, and he probably asked Kuribou to watch him or something. Because you're right, if you look at Ichiryuu's face, he knew something (but doesn't he always? lol)
As amazing as the last several Toriko chapters have been this one surpassed them by far. This is the first time we seen all Ichiryuu's people at once, we seen another Human National Treasure, and everything that was only hinted to before about what Ichiryuu and his people were up to was all discussed at once with progress reports. Now we find out about the 4 beasts, which means Toriko and the kings are almost finally done with their training and can soon enter the Gourmet World which we've been waiting for for some time. This chapter did a lot for the plot and was just really awesome, I'm excited for the next arc and for Toriko to show off more abilities that he learned from Food Honor.
That Sakura guy looks like Saint Seiya.
I thought the same thing. And the first time I seen Malee I was like "Mihawk?"
When they show the seasons of the Death Forest, it does list all twelve months we have irl. And yeah, Sakura totally looks like Saint Seiya
Gourment Astronomer: Rala (The title of Gourmet seems really arbitrary in these positions. And why does he look familiar? Closest thing I could think of is Armstrong from FMA, but I think there's other designs that are closer. Or maybe it's just a stereotypical look I'm not remembering)
Dudley from Street Fighter?
Maybe Rapp is the spy. You know the guy who first mentions how someone farted in a room is the one who did it.
It's odd that Shigematsu, IGO vice-president, isn't a member of 0th Biotope, though he may remain in the Human World as Ichiryuu's successor.
It's odd that Shigematsu, IGO vice-president, isn't a member of 0th Biotope, though he may remain in the Human World as Ichiryuu's successor.
I was thinking that too, same with Mansam. Wonder what he's up to right now?
What I found weird is that there weren't any chefs in the 0th Biotope.
What I found weird is that there weren't any chefs in the 0th Biotope.
Atashino, the surgeon, is a chef.
@projectelf: your comment made me laugh more than it should. good theory as well.
It's odd that Shigematsu, IGO vice-president, isn't a member of 0th Biotope, though he may remain in the Human World as Ichiryuu's successor.
The members of the 0th biotope are private citizens and not part of the IGO.
The members of the 0th biotope are private citizens and not part of the IGO.
That's for sure. But I thought of Shigematsu because of his (presumed) very high strength!
Yeah, I mean he was barely even in this series at all, Mansam had more screentime then him.
Dang this chapter's a huge one. This pretty much set up most of the plot for the series.
Any favorite designs/characters from the new chapter? Mailsman stood out for being the cutest girl so far in the series for me. I also liked Goblin Ramon and the Hermit.! My notes while reading the chapter.
! * Gourmet Gang Leader: Guemon (Gourmet Hunter as well. This made me wonder though what's he the leader of? And why does he keep his position as leader?)
- Gourmet Literary Master: Mailsman (Gourmet National Treasure. That's 3 out of 4 known. I wonder if the last one will end up on the evil side or is just like Setsuno. Cute)
- Gourmet Seitai Master: Malee (Looked up what Seitai means. Makes sense he's a knocking master. Goatee reminds me of Mihawk's design)
- Blacksmith: Kuribou (No gourmet in the title. I remember his pots were mentioned at the same time Melk's knives were. And he seems to have a special assignment from the President. I wonder what's up.)
- Honey Prison Warden: Love
- Gourmet Magician: Manan (Also a Gourmet Hunter but dang magic is a thing. Yeah after a character pretty much turned back time along with everything else I guess all bets were off anyways but magic. I wonder if this power will get an "psuedo-explanation")
- Warrior of the Goto Tribe: Tack (Gourmet Hunter. What is the Goto tribe? Peaceful dude.)
- Gourmet Mountain Bandit: Goblin Ramon (Is he actually part goblin? And how is his job different from a normal mountain bandit? Likes to kill. See comments below. Wonder why he's being trusted)
- Assassin: Megarodras (I'm really glad he's not a gourmet assassin. I also wonder if he's a "good" assassin or if this is supposed to show that this group while opposing the Bishokukai might have some ambiguity.)
- Martial Artist: Sakura (Gourmet Hunter. Also glad he's not a "gourmet martial artist". And I'm assuming guy even though Sakura is more commonly a girl's name.)
- Rapp (Just a gourmet hunter. Kinda disappointing since everyone else has something else to define them. Actually, all of them I wonder why Ichiryuu trusts any of them. It'd be cool to get back story.)
- "former" gourmet Yakuza Boss: Ryuu (Silent type for now, but we know he has a kind heart from Match)
- Yosaku (Saiseiya. Only one too)
- Gourment Astronomer: Rala (The title of Gourmet seems really arbitrary in these positions. And why does he look familiar? Closest thing I could think of is Armstrong from FMA, but I think there's other designs that are closer. Or maybe it's just a stereotypical look I'm not remembering)
- Sharpener: Melk I (lost the voice stone, but I guess it helps the gags)
- Gourment Hermit: Kousairou (Another nice design. The chapter implied he's really strong. Can't wait to see him at the Festival)
- Gourmet Surgeon and Chef: Atashino (I've been burned a lot in manga so guy or girl? Don't know the name well)
! * Center: The 8th ingredient. I guess Devil could be one of the others not named yet.
- Earth: Needs to be revived. I wonder if Yosaku told Sunny that.
- Air: Knife complete like we knew.
- Atom: Coco's ingredient but they don't know where it is.
! The 0th Biotope people don't seem to know about Joa and that group, so they're a wild card. It's already been theorized they're the ones that told the Bishokukai about Center. And they also seem to know about Atom.
! And speaking of other parties, Jirou and Setsuno are absent from the 0th isotope. I wonder what role they'll play as well.
! I have no idea which storyline the author will attempt to handle first, but here's the plot points I got.
! * Komatsu's possible growth?
- Four beasts: I guess one of them will be Toriko's final ingredient and the rest of the disciples will handle the other three.
- Gourment Festival: in a month. Livebearer might make another appearance. The other foreshadowed chefs are bound to show up here too.
- Ichiryuu's full course menu. I'll bet Toriko will use the Festival to find possible chefs that can cook it. And there's still one more ingredient that needs to be found (I have to assume it's important since Shima purposely left it not found).
- Finding Acacia's full course menu. Three names are still unknown.
- Back story on all the new/minor characters and world building. Not to mention there's still a few isotopes that haven't been explored. There's a ton of elements here that he could really go in depth in, so now's his chance to prove himself as a storyteller.
- Nitro and their role. And the gourmet world. I really hope the world already established are explored instead of Shima just introducing more crazy ideas from the Gourmet World.
Yeah I'm worried about pacing too. On the flip side though, I think we've filled in a lot of the gaps in both the direction of the plot and overall world building this chapter. I'm just really hoping Shima will stop expanding the world and just spend time exploring what's already been established.
It's always possible that there are two major arcs to this series, God and devil. This would help solve the pacing problems, and give more time to flesh out the Toriko/Komatsu vs. Starjun/Take relationship.
EDIT: Also, I've always thought there was a connection between the Bishokuya four kings, and the ancient four kings.
Toriko=Tiger
Sani=Phoenix
Coco=turtle
Zebra= Dragon.
Also, it's not like the four kings are an underused concept in manga.
It's always possible that there are two major arcs to this series, God and devil. This would help solve the pacing problems, and give more time to flesh out the Toriko/Komatsu vs. Starjun/Take relationship.
EDIT: Also, I've always thought there was a connection between the Bishokuya four kings, and the ancient four kings.
Toriko=Tiger
Sani=Phoenix
Coco=turtle
Zebra= Dragon.Also, it's not like the four kings are an underused concept in manga.
Why do you consider Coco the turle and Sani the Phoenix? Wouldn't it be the other way around?
Why do you consider Coco the turle and Sani the Phoenix? Wouldn't it be the other way around?
Maybe because Coco is as exciting ? :P
I updated my character map of Toriko.
v3.0:
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/8664/torikocharactermapbysal.jpg
Changelog:
-New categories: Chefs, 0th Biotope, Shokurin Temple, Jidar Kingdom
-New pictures of Coco, Zebra, Toriko, Midora, Aimaru, Stajyun and Ootake
-Added a picture of Ryu
-New characters:
–Kaitora (Bishokukai Exclusive Saiseiya)
--Dores (Bishokukai Executive Chef)
--Chinchinchin (Master of Shokurin Temple)
--Koppwo (Assitant Master of Shokurin Temple)
--Wagon (Assistant Master of Shokurin Temple)
--Shuu (Assistant Master of Shokurin Temple)
--Akimaru (Member of Gourmet Knights Shikigumi)
--Chiyo (Previous Head Chef of Disappearence Cuisine)
--Chiru (Head Chef of Disappearence Cuisine)
--Chirin (Disappearence Cuisine Employee)
--Joa (Kidar Kingdom Personal Chef to the King)
--Darnil Kahn (Jidar Kingdom King)
--Livebeaver
--Monchy (sushi Craftman)
--Nonchy (Mayor of Eco Land)
--0th Biotope members.
-Added relationship between Stajyun y Ootake.
There are some characters that beside his main occupation, are also bishokuya. I didn't decide what to do about that yet.
I was thinking of, in a future version, adding a little knife next to the chefs, instead of the color category, and a fork next to bishokuya.
Anyway, please let me know if there is any mistake.
Why do you consider Coco the turle and Sani the Phoenix? Wouldn't it be the other way around?
Sani just strikes me more as a Phoenix, perhaps due to his vast amount of bright colors, and Coco is a turtle due to his appearance, and strong defensive abilities.
Nice work Vast! By any chance are you working on a world map as well? Can´t remember if the manga does, but in the anime the continents within the human world are our own continents rearranged, like happens in Hunter x Hunter
Nice work Vast! By any chance are you working on a world map as well? Can´t remember if the manga does, but in the anime the continents within the human world are our own continents rearranged, like happens in Hunter x Hunter
It's something like that:
http://www.batoto.net/read/_/38908/toriko_ch55_by_map-scans/14
The small continents in the center are our continents, rearranged.
But surrounding them there are other continents of the Human World completely invented.
And surrounding that, there is Gourmet World xD
Anyway, we don't know where is placed in the map every location seen in the manga.
EDIT: Also, I've always thought there was a connection between the Bishokuya four kings, and the ancient four kings.
Toriko=Tiger
Sani=Phoenix
Coco=turtle
Zebra= Dragon.Also, it's not like the four kings are an underused concept in manga.
I think it corresponds with their pets
Toriko=Tiger (Terry)
Sani=Dragon (That snake)
Coco= Phoenix (his bird)
Zebra= Turtle(last left but will probably get one that fits).
I know the animals are not exact but they fit those roles best
Guys, they changed the anime ending AGAIN. And it´s the most horrible and unfitting thing you´ll ever see…
Why exactly is the newest Toriko ending one of the gayest things I've ever seen? o.O
If i wasnt an artist i would ask you to nicely destroy my eyes
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They replaced Love Chase by this?!!!
If i wasnt an artist i would ask you to nicely destroy my eyes
Just imagine Zebra in this. :S
How very… Spanish?
More like Brazil - Caribbean
What the hell is that crap ? What the hell are these people trying to do ?