Pokemon's Fifth Generation

Robby

Is there something to Critical Hits themselves I've missed?

The biggest thing is that criticals ignore defense boosts. AND they stack with STAB bonus.

Frost Breath and Storm Throw are AMAZING moves as a result, some of the most powerful in the game. Storm Throw, despite being only listed as 40 attack, after crit and stab is in fact a 120 attack move with 100% accuracy that ignores defense boosts., and Frost Breath is almost as good with 90% accuracy.

There are stronger ice and fighting moves, but they usually have side effects like stat lowering, lower accuracy, or charge time. Especially if you hit something that's actually WEAK to those moves… (and fighting is super effective on 5 different types, and ice hits 4)

C_uggs

I guess that I have to do the same thing I did with my Zweilous on my Dragonite. "Removing redundant attacks"

How the FC works ? How can I know if one of my friends in the list are in the room ?

Robby

@captain:

How the FC works ? How can I know if one of my friends in the list are in the room ?

First and foremost, you have to trade codes.

After that, if you're both signed into the wi-fi room at the same time, they'll appear on screen and you can talk to them for trade or battle or whatever else.

Generally you just have to coordinate these things and know they're going to be there, since most people don't randomly sit around in the wifi room doing nothing all day.

C_uggs

What kind of strategy best suits a Cryogonal ?

Hiroy

Whatever Smogon says.

Gliblord

All right, so I've been playing the Battle Subway for quite some time and I've struck on an okayish team, but I can never get past the second car, so please somebody check my team over

1. Lead position is my scarfed Rotom-Ice with Volt Switch, Thunderbolt, Blizzard, and Shadow Ball (because fuck Alakazams and Gengars)

I get a nice bolt-beam coverage for the lead, and using Volt Switch I can bait a boost to either of my other two pokes, Virizion with Justified and Chandelure with Flashfire, not to mention Chandelure's immunities to Normal and Fighting

2. Virizion with Miracle Seed and Cheer Up, Leaf Blade, Sacred Sword and Giga Drain (grass type definitely comes in handy)

3. Chandelure with Spell Tag and Shadow Ball, Psychic, Will o Wisp, and Flamethrower

My Chandelure seems to be slower than enemy Chandelures though :[

Supernademan

Doe nintendo plan on giving this guys a way as a download?
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Keldeo_(Pokémon
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Meloetta_(Pokémon
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Genesect_(Pokémon
Specially the last one?

RPGJay

Eventually .

Hiroy

@Gliblord:

All right, so I've been playing the Battle Subway for quite some time and I've struck on an okayish team, but I can never get past the second car, so please somebody check my team over

1. Lead position is my scarfed Rotom-Ice with Volt Switch, Thunderbolt, Blizzard, and Shadow Ball (because fuck Alakazams and Gengars)

I get a nice bolt-beam coverage for the lead, and using Volt Switch I can bait a boost to either of my other two pokes, Virizion with Justified and Chandelure with Flashfire, not to mention Chandelure's immunities to Normal and Fighting

2. Virizion with Miracle Seed and Cheer Up, Leaf Blade, Sacred Sword and Giga Drain (grass type definitely comes in handy)

3. Chandelure with Spell Tag and Shadow Ball, Psychic, Will o Wisp, and Flamethrower

My Chandelure seems to be slower than enemy Chandelures though :[[/QUOTE]

II wish I was big on Single battles to help you out a bit, but I can give a few hints from my experiences in Battle Subway. First of all, it's always nice to have items for effects rather than just those that boost the attack power of one element. These items aren't bad, but it could be convenient to play with others. Let's say… A Rocky Helmet on a tank type pokemon. Believe me, this thing has saved me many times. There's also those consumable "one-time-use" Gems. Theses are awesome in Battle Subway because once you use it, you don't lose the item for good. Instead you are given a new one at the end of every battle. This rule applies for wifi matches as well. Cool stuff.

Also. Try not to have your entire team be straight up attackers. Tanks and stalls are good against Pokemon your team would not handle itself with otherwise. There's many of them with my favorite being Cresselia(Reflect, weather, ect) and Rypher-whateverhisnameis (tank).

As for suggestions... I'm not familiar with your pokes, but Chandelure can probally fare better with something other than Phychic and Flamethrower. But that's just me. Not sure about what to replace Phychic with, but I'd definitely use something with more power for a fire attack... Say Fireblast or Overheat. Take this with a grain of salt though. I just personally think the extra power can make up for its sub par special attack.. especially if you are hitting things that aren't weak to fire, but can be KOed otherwise.

Robby

@Gliblord:

My Chandelure seems to be slower than enemy Chandelures though :[[/QUOTE]

Yours probably doesn't have a lot of effort values put into speed. Depending on how much you've trained it, there might not be much you can do about it at this point, if you've already accumulated all your ev points. But, try giving it some carbos, for each vitamin it can take thats ultimately 2 and a half stat points… and when dealing with an exact match, (where everything is auto leveled to 50) 1 point in speed is sometimes all the difference in the world. Also, train with a Power Anklet if you have one.

http://www.psypokes.com/lab/evguide.php

C_uggs

When I tried to breed a Chimecho with a Ditto (wanting to have a Chingling) I ended up having a Chimecho Lvl 1. How do I get a Chingling ?

Morning Sun is a good attack for Vulcarona, or it´s only good with Sunny Day ?

And last: 4 members of my team are Lvl 60~65, when I bought Carbos and other types of status increasers it says "nothing will happen " is this good thing or did I screwed my team ?

Gliblord

Thanks for the tips, guys.

I love how in the Battle Subway there's that dude still on his motorcycle.

Hiroy

^And I like how they take their seats on the motorcycles too. Hahah!

Also… Volcarona should never be something used to set up Sunny Day. He's a powerful enough to benefit without sun. Fiery Dance(awesome since it has a good chance of raising special attack), Quiver Dance, Bug Buzz, and Hurricane are great moves for it.

C_uggs

@Hiroy:

Also… Volcarona should never be something used to set up Sunny Day. He's a powerful enough to benefit without sun. Fiery Dance(awesome since it has a good chance of raising special attack), Quiver Dance, Bug Buzz, and Hurricane are great moves for it.

3 Bugs and 1 Flying, but why not a fire attack ?

Kaboom

@captain:

When I tried to breed a Chimecho with a Ditto (wanting to have a Chingling) I ended up having a Chimecho Lvl 1. How do I get a Chingling?

Bulbapedia tells me that one of the parents, presumably the Chimeco, needs to be holding the "Pure Incense" item when the breeding happens. I'm not sure if it's something you can do with a Ditto, or if instead they both need to be Chimecos.

Robby

@captain:

3 Bugs and 1 Flying, but why not a fire attack ?

Fiery Dance IS a fire attack. And a pretty great one at that. Locked behind level 100 on a basically unique critter.

And Quiver Dance being bug is inconsequential since its a stat boosting move. It could be normal or dark or electric, it doesn't matter.

eerie

So does anyone here watch youtube pokemon battle narrations? Kind of a guilty pleasure for me.

Hiroy

I haven't seen any funny ones enough to watch. They are usually serious bussiness/boring and whatnot. Found any good ones?

C_uggs

I just captured Cobalion (BTW, loved his theme), now, where I can find the other 2 ?

Other thing, it´s good to teach high damage/low acurence attacks to a pokémon (Scope Lens is the solution ?)

Nobodyman

@captain:

I just captured Cobalion (BTW, loved his theme), now, where I can find the other 2 ?

Virizion is in Pinwheel Forest. Terrakion is on Victory Road.

eerie

@Hiroy:

I haven't seen any funny ones enough to watch. They are usually serious bussiness/boring and whatnot. Found any good ones?

Hell yeah,

Some of my favorites (more or less in order) are Sucker4Jessica, Haydunn, TheAcousticKind (who is actually pwnobi from these forums), shofu, JesusIsRippin (who doesn't really do videos anymore but his Gen 4 stuff is GOLD), m4gnitude, E-lo, and FizzyStardust, off the top of my head.Dangerous36m and pwnobi just started doing a live narration series that's absolutely hilarious.

Hiroy

Lots of people to look up on. Will check them out whenever I have a free day again.

Anyway… Mew's animated sprite... Yeah... What the hell?

KaizokuJinbei

Does anyone have a Mew and/or an Arceus that they are willing to trade me or trade over to my game (and then trade back) so i can get Pokedex data to attempt to acquire them via GTS?

Hiroy

I'm not sure how available she is, but PM Nia about Arceus if you like. She cloned like 4 of them for me. Alas.. I no longer have them. I basically used them to get whatever I want on the GTS.

KaizokuJinbei

That may not be as easy for me to do Nia doesn't know me…would she do that for someone she doesn't know?

Hiroy

I'm sure it's fine, but I'll ask for you.

RPGJay

Actually does anyone have a Shaymin? I don't necessarily need to keep it, just a trade and trade back thing.

Nia

@KaizokuJinbei:

That may not be as easy for me to do Nia doesn't know me…would she do that for someone she doesn't know?

I'm a little rusty when it comes to cloning, but I just found my WiFi Connector again (and my DS lite which I didn't even know was missing), so … I'll give it a shot!

While I'm at it - who needs a Pokémon? I know there were a few requests.
I can give out ANY Pokémon that's breedable and can clone a few legendary ones, including Arceus (which, in turn, you could use to get other legendaries via trade, perhaps).

Legendary Pokémon I can clone:
Arceus
Articuno
Zapdos
Moltres
Mewtwo
Raikou
Suicune
Entei
Lugia
Ho-Oh
Celebi
Kyogre
Latias

And, if anyone cares, a shiny Feebas (NOT cheated! :D)

And, of course, I can trade you ANYTHING temporarily.

/EDIT: Cloning was successful :D

RPGJay

If anyone can provide me with a Shaymin, even just temporarily, just PM me. It's literally the only thing I am missing on my Pokedex. Well, not including those 3 event Pokemon that haven't been released yet.

@Nia:

And, if anyone cares, a shiny Feebas (NOT cheated! :D)

Actually that does interest me. Is there any Pokemon in particular you're looking for? Or do you just want me to make an offer?

KaizokuJinbei

@Nia:

I'm a little rusty when it comes to cloning, but I just found my WiFi Connector again (and my DS lite which I didn't even know was missing), so … I'll give it a shot!

While I'm at it - who needs a Pokémon? I know there were a few requests.
I can give out ANY Pokémon that's breedable and can clone a few legendary ones, including Arceus (which, in turn, you could use to get other legendaries via trade, perhaps).

Legendary Pokémon I can clone:
Arceus
Articuno
Zapdos
Moltres
Mewtwo
Raikou
Suicune
Entei
Lugia
Ho-Oh
Celebi
Kyogre
Latias

And, if anyone cares, a shiny Feebas (NOT cheated! :D)

And, of course, I can trade you ANYTHING temporarily.

/EDIT: Cloning was successful :D

Really? well I appreciate you taking the time to do this. Just Arceus is fine. And a temporary trade of a Mew would be appreciated too if you have one. I'll be on for a while just send a pm or post here when you have the time to trade.

Oh and did you want any pokemon in particular for the Arceus?

maxterdexter

Remember that Arceus will be free via mystery gitf in Febraury.

Nice selection Nia, I'll have to hurry up finding a new stupid wep wifi.

Gliblord

For Battle Subway I'm trying to use a Swoobat with Flying Jewel + Acrobatics, but it never seems to activate and I can't figure out why

Early

Maybe it has the wrong ability?

Robby

@Gliblord:

For Battle Subway I'm trying to use a Swoobat with Flying Jewel + Acrobatics, but it never seems to activate and I can't figure out why

Does your Swoobat have the ability of Klutz or Unaware? If its Klutz, it can't use hold items, (but it can still hold them) and acrobatics natural ability keeps it at half power if you're holding an item.

Gliblord

Jesus Christ, Klutz is the worst.

Why am I using Swoobat anyway, he sucks. I wish I could get like a Skarmory or something.

Robby

Klutz is a terrible ability, but it does have some uses. Mainly carrying a terrible item then throwing it onto the opponent. But yeah, overall its one of the worst abilities in the game.

But you have to use what you like. Sheer practicality is boring. Stat wise, Emolga is the worst flying type in B&W, AND the worst electric type. And yet I love the crap out of it and had one as the staple of my team the whole game and caught and used a whole mess of them for after.

A swoobat with unaware would actually be quite good and work with your strategy. Thats a thing you have to check for when you catch things. Usually a critter has one ability far superior to the other.

Bobjr

The worst ability is Stall, seeing as it was given to like one pokemon, and makes them go last in the turn. No wonder they gave Sableye Prankster this gen, probably to make up for that.

Robby

@Bobjr:

The worst ability is Stall, seeing as it was given to like one pokemon, and makes them go last in the turn. No wonder they gave Sableye Prankster this gen, probably to make up for that.

There's a lot of moves and strategies that benefit from going second, or after taking damage. If you know that's always going to be in play, you can build a strategy around it. Some critters you actively try to get the worst speed possible on, because you want them to go second.

Slow Start is pretty godawful and makes regigigas unplayable. Attack and speed halved during the first five turns in battle? Thats horrendous.

Defeatist sucks too, but its on a monster that has high starting stats to make up for it.

Wonder Guard is an amazing ability, wasted on the only critter that has it.

Bobjr

Some pokemon could work with that yeah, but only Sableye gets it, and really can do nothing with it at all. Normally when they give unique abilities it's meant to balance the pokemon like with Slaking or Regigigas, but it was just added for no reason.

And Shedinja is a complete gimmick pokemon, so it makes sense for it to be the only pokemon with Wonder Guard

Hiroy

There's Slaking's Traunt, but that only creates confusion for players. He'll either destroy you, run from you(switch out), or brutally pursuit you if you plan to switch….. or he'll just stall and take hits. That's why I like Slaking so much. Players usually have to think in branches when it comes to him(especially if I were to easilly anticipate Fake Outs, Protects, or some bad attempt at being crafty ) The ability is not only bad, but also somewhat benficial.

Robby

If the game is set where you can rotate your critter whenever you defeat an opponent rather than using a turn on it(automatic in some games, an option in others) you can have a pair of rotating Slakings and really tear some things up.

Hiroy

I haven't tried a wifi match that wasn't random to know if rotation is allowed as a rule. Especially if the opponent has a bunch of nicknamed pokes. It could be good in the main game though.

And oh. A Slaking on Mummy is beastly… but he does not feel the same or unique without Traunt. He just feels like a legendary Pokemon.

Robby

@Hiroy:

And oh. A Slaking on Mummy is beastly… but he does not feel the same or unique without Traunt. He just feels like a legendary Pokemon.

Archeops is much the same way, though his stats aren't quite as insane… but his weakness isn't as huge either.

Gliblord

I guess I should start EV training, but I really hate grinding

Bobjr

The only other pokemon to get Truant is Durant, but that's only because it can skill swap to screw the opponent over, unlike Slaking.

Jazzy Jinx

Since I can't think of a more appropriate place to put this, I just want to off-handedly mention that I'm SR'ing right now for a shiny Snivy. I really want a female but having a shiny alone is more than good enough. I also wanted to start EV training right away but since it's at the beginning of the game, it's going to be a dick of a time to do especially since I can't immediately go anywhere or go to the battle subway to confirm what my IV's are. Either way, I'm thinking I'll do 252 ATK, 252 Speed and 4 HP.

I'm trying to debate right now if I'll grind in the beginning for the ATK EV's and then save Snivy in a box so I can do the Speed and HP EV's later or if I should just not even bother keeping track of them and use berries from Dream World to reduce the EV's to 0. I don't want to do all this grinding and then find out later that my IV's for ATK are shit. Plus, since I'm still SR'ing for a shiny Snivy, I'm not even sure what it's nature will be yet.

When I beat the Elite Four once, I think I'll become a shiny hunter. I'll probably use the Masuda Method. Any shinies in particular any of you want to suggest?

KaizokuJinbei

@Uncle:

Since I can't think of a more appropriate place to put this, I just want to off-handedly mention that I'm SR'ing right now for a shiny Snivy. I really want a female but having a shiny alone is more than good enough. I also wanted to start EV training right away but since it's at the beginning of the game, it's going to be a dick of a time to do especially since I can't immediately go anywhere or go to the battle subway to confirm what my IV's are. Either way, I'm thinking I'll do 252 ATK, 252 Speed and 4 HP.

I'm trying to debate right now if I'll grind in the beginning for the ATK EV's and then save Snivy in a box so I can do the Speed and HP EV's later or if I should just not even bother keeping track of them and use berries from Dream World to reduce the EV's to 0. I don't want to do all this grinding and then find out later that my IV's for ATK are shit. Plus, since I'm still SR'ing for a shiny Snivy, I'm not even sure what it's nature will be yet.

When I beat the Elite Four once, I think I'll become a shiny hunter. I'll probably use the Masuda Method. Any shinies in particular any of you want to suggest?

As a fellow shiny collector, Legendary pokemon shines (Lugia, Arceus, etc…). Otherwise if it is a shiny grab it because a shiny is a shiny.

Gliblord

I just had a thought. If you guys were to create your own abilities, what would they be?

I was thinking a really cool ability would be that the pokemon comes into play with three randomly-selected non-weather-related abilities

C_uggs

Here is my Shuckle moveset.

Wrap
Encore
Bide
Sandstorm

Should I change Bide ?

There is a girl in a bridge that disappear when I talk to her, what should I do ?

Also, I got some items that I can´t sell, it says that some maniac will buy it, where I can find these maniac ?

And final, the only fossil I´m getting is anorith, the is right ?

Gliblord

Quoth Bulbapedia

Woobat seems to be a combination of woo and bat.