Oh thank god bleach is bottom 5. When I first saw the ranking i also thought that it started to climb the ranks. I hope that the stupid fanservice chapters where the most popular bleach characters show up dont manage to boost bleachs popularity in jump again.
The "Shueisha" Thread
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Not even Kubo's tasteless efforts at making the characters and personality of Chad and Orihime suffer even more seem to please his fans anymore.
EXCELLENT does guitar riff
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Remember that the ratings are from 8 chapters ago(if I'm not mistaken)
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Remember that the ratings are from 8 chapters ago(if I'm not mistaken)
Yes.
But we were already deep in the "OMG such a TWEEEST" territory with Tsukishima and his Mindfuck circus.
And it's still not helping.
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Nothing to celebrate about yet.
It would be beyond hilarious if the ratings actually DROP after the shameless plug chapter.
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Nothing to celebrate about yet.
It would be beyond hilarious if the ratings actually DROP after the shameless plug chapter.
Could it be that the fans actualy liked Chad and Orihime and this is making them pissed off ?
Because if so the latest chapter just literaly ensured they would go into a frenzy !
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FT is nowhere close to being the worst shounen manga/anime ever, much less manga in general.
At worst it's simply generic.Same applies to Bleach. It's just that these are crappy in relation to their popularity is all.
Finally. A post that makes sense.
I don't mean to look like I'm sporting the idea, but reactions like "oh wia iz it doin well" just never cuts it for me. I may hate alot of shallow popular franchises, but it isn't really by place to say what people should or should not buy. That's just me, so…
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Honestly, I kind of think Enigma is out of ideas. On the other hand, I've really been enjoying Magico and would like it to stick around.
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@Thousand:
The fact that there's so popular gives the series extra burden to be good and live up to it's name so it's extra disappointing when it's bad. Plus quality aside, I have never read a manga that is so soulless such as Fairy Tail or Bleach.
Go and read Tenjou Tenge
@Kareem:
That. Doesn't. Make. It. A GOOD SERIES!!! That doesn't make it a passable series, either! Dude, I don't mind it if you like FT, even if it is soulless, but come on! Can't you think of anything better than "It's not the worst manga in the world!! That's something, right?"
Not really.
Well honestly I get annoyed when everyone and there mother says "FT iz da wowrst manga evah cuz all I read is One Piece, Naruto and Bleach" which I know is not the case for you but it is the case for a large majority of people. An as bad as FT is I still enjoy it because I can actually understand it plot and all. Ask ANYONE who has followed T.T. (Tenjou Tenge for short) and they'll tell you that there is a point in the series where nothing makes fucking sense and it's only redeeming quality is the artwork.
Honestly, I kind of think Enigma is out of ideas. On the other hand, I've really been enjoying Magico and would like it to stick around.
I've been catching back up with Enigma and I can honestly see why it's ratings have been going down. The series pretty much lost it's edge.
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Tenjou Tenge was quite good for a while and even till the end had plenty of soul. It just turned to crap by the second flash back as the author had too many ideas and they all meshed together to make a huge mess that no one could make heads or tails of not that he didn't care about his work.
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Honestly, I still read FT even though I'm very annoyed of it.
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FT is nowhere close to being the worst shounen manga/anime ever, much less manga in general.
At worst it's simply generic.Same applies to Bleach. It's just that these are crappy in relation to their popularity is all.
I tend to agree, for all my bluster and hyperbole.
Fairy Tail frustrates me, but only in proportion to its popularity.
If it weren't popular, I could not find two half-fucks to rub together in the hopes I could give a whole fuck about it.
Fairy Tail and Bleach are bad in relation to their popularity. Whether you think that means they have more to prove or not is one thing, but as far as being the bottom of the manga barrel? They ain't, honestly. I personally think they're bad objectively too, but the worst or near worst? No. I can't commit to that. The bottom of the manga barrel is DEEP. Do Felch and Fairy Fail have highly annoying fanbases? Yes. But I'd say that's more because of the nature of fandom (i.e. fandoms can be highly annoying). The One Piece fandom can be highly annoying (and elitist) too. A large part of why we dislike Bleach and Fairy Tail is because of their popularity. They both have failed potential, yes, but so do a ton of series we dislike. It's just not as annoying with those. Namely because they are not more popular than other things that we like.
But if Fairy Tail and Bleach weren't popular, they would hardly be worth the effort of criticism. Think about it. If Bleach disappeared from the cover of Jump forever - forever banished from close quarters with all the other series you love - you would probably not spare it a second thought. And if you can think of manga so bad they aren't even worth talking about, then congratulations (or condolences): you've probably found a manga worse than Bleach.
Finally. A post that makes sense.
I don't mean to look like I'm sporting the idea, but reactions like "oh wia iz it doin well" just never cuts it for me. I may hate alot of shallow popular franchises, but it isn't really by place to say what people should or should not buy. That's just me, so…
This is a bit off topic, but frankly, I don't think there are so many lines in the sand when it comes to shonen manga. Few that we don't make ourselves, anyway.
Many of us feel the popularity of Bleach means that Beelzebub isn't popular, or that because so many people buy Fairy Tail less people are buying Toriko. The reality is probably that the franchises have a lot of the same people buying them both. The likelihood that the popularity of Bleach specifically is hurting your special snowflake favowite tru luv series probably isn't as great as you think. Everything in JUMP is in competition with everything else in JUMP. But just as one of us is a fan of One Piece but also enjoys Bakuman or Sket Dance, another of us may be a fan of One Piece but prefer Toriko and Bleach to Sket Dance. It's not so cut and dry. Why does it even need to be us and them? Besides the fact that fanbases are insular and like to feel like their junk is better than the other guy's junk?
I mean, as fun as it may be to make fun of the other guy's junk, I try not to let it get to me too much that he likes it.
An internal "Why is this popular?" doesn't always need to become an external "You are bad for making this popular." People like what they like. It's possible they also like what you do too.
Something that has been bugging me lately.
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This raises an important question, then.
What IS at the bottom of the barrel?
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Hentai manga involving fecal matter.
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Hentai manga involving fecal matter.
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Hentai doesn't count.
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To Love Ru.
To Love Ru Darkness.
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To Love Ru….Thank God I never paid enough attention to that series.
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To Love Ru.
To Love Ru Darkness.
I liked the mangaka's describing some other man taking off his wife's panties though.
That was…..all kinds of awkward.
But seriously, does Kämpfer count as Shounen ? Because if so, that is the bottom of the barrel, in my humble opinion.
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Hentai manga involving fecal matter.
Hentai manga involving fecal matter.
how are these posts possible?
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Space/time technology.
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@'ko:
how are these posts possible?
JC and Silence are the same person
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To Love Ru….Thank God I never paid enough attention to that series.
To Love Ru is the first and last time I intentionally read a bad manga to see what all the hype was about. So so bad.
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@No:
JC and Silence are the same person
Very clever, Maam.
I had this dupe account for years, posing as an African American male to avoid suspicion.
But it seems you saw right through my ruse. -
I always knew I'd be found out sooner or later. How the hell am I supposed to dupe vote on the character tourney now? Woe.
I hope you're proud of yourself. :I
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funny thing is with how bad Tenjou Tenge becomes I would still consider purchasing it because the art is just simply amazing.
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Picking titles randomly without knowing what they are and then saying "What the hell is this?" is usually a good start for finding the true bottom of barrel. But you see… you can't bring it to almost anyone's attention since it's so obscure or unknown. Same thing applies for decent series or great things that never seen the light of the overall public. Even then, what one may interpret as "great" may be seen as terrible by another beholder... because well... People have different expectations of what should live up to hype, like the rating itself is solely based off its popularity or wide spread appeal rather than a stand alone product among many.
I hate Avatar. That's because I seen the movie. Slept through half of it. Was so bored and not interested. That's my stand alone opinion/experience of the movie and I can compare it to other movies that did a much better job. Do you think I cared about its success? What does that have do with the torture of my first hand experience? Oh yeah. Absolutely nothing. Are people idiots for liking it? Maybe, but that's not my business. Success just equals more earnings.
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@Thousand:
To Love Ru is the first and last time I intentionally read a bad manga to see what all the hype was about. So so bad.
A friend from work recommended it me so I gave it a go. I read it. Then I stopped talking to him.
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WSJ Cover #40: http://thumbnails49.imagebam.com/14815/676ae0148142798.jpg
That's a pretty uninspired cover to be honest :P
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WSJ Cover #40: http://thumbnails49.imagebam.com/14815/676ae0148142798.jpg
Sket Dance cover :3
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Yaay, 200 chapters!
Now get a German release.
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Bottom 5 by T
Beelzebub
Kochikame
Kuroko
Magiko
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Bottom 5 by T
Beelzebub
Kochikame
Kuroko
Magiko
EnigmaGroans
Have to wait for the rest though.
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Bottom 5 by T
Beelzebub
Kochikame
Kuroko
Magiko
Enigmaweird though in here bottom 5 is completely different
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weird though in here bottom 5 is completely different
Since Bleach is there replacing Beelzebub, I choose to believe weeklyjump instead of T. Sorry T, no disrespect
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If T is right, stupid Japanese kids.
The other one is ok.
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Eh, Beelzebub dipping every once in awhile isn't something to get worried about.
Disconcerting, yes, but not really a big deal since it'll inevitably be back up.
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pretty sure their bottom fire is wrong and ours is right. Really some of you guys need to stop calling japanese kids stupid just because they didn't vote for the manga you like jesus.
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It seems Kochikame might end soon.
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After 30 bloody years, I doubt it.
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The one at weekly jump changed to this.
They also said that Kochikame is ending?!?? Sad to see Jump's oldest series end. -
Kochikame will end when Akimoto is no longer able to hold a pen..not a single second before that he will stop producing like a machine chapters for that waaaay to long series.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA no.
Thats what read at toc discussion in manga helpers (there image there it seems to be something about Kochikame ending,but since i cant read kanji i dont know).
Its true that 30+ years long series but it will come the end someday (probably by Akimoto decision).
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Well this is sad, and why the heck is Beelzebub in bottom 5 what chapter was that?
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115 where Koma was introduced, I believe.
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I guess the kids didn't like that character when he was intruduced, heh but maybe when they see his badass form they will like him.
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Jump #40 (12/09):
Sket Dance (Cover & Lead Color Page)
One Piece
Naruto
Gintama
Bakuman
Kurogane (Color Page, 25 pg.)
Toriko
Harisugawa in Mirror world
Medaka Box (Color Page, Results Popular Contest, 23 pg.)
ST&RS
Bleach
Inumaru Dashi (Color Page)
Hunter x Hunter
Reborn!
Nurarihyon no Mago (23 pag.)
Beelzebub
Kochikame
Kuroko no Basket
Magico
Enigma#41:
Bakuman (Lead Color Page)
Beelzebub, ST&RS, Enigma (Color Page)
Kurogane (23 pg.) -
Bleach is 8th>.>
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