Yeah. Keep an eye out on the pre-order links in the Collectibles sub-forum. It'll probably be put up there too.
Is that a poster it shows there under Master Luffy's face? Looks like it shows the main cast on top and under all of the supports.
Yeah. Keep an eye out on the pre-order links in the Collectibles sub-forum. It'll probably be put up there too.
Is that a poster it shows there under Master Luffy's face? Looks like it shows the main cast on top and under all of the supports.
Yeah it looks like it. Probably comes with the special edition. Also people are saying hancock is playable but she doesn't have a player icon on her like jinbei and luffy have (although she probably is gonna be playable)
@Vongola_Boss_XI:
Also, I think pre-time skips will be alt. costumes, not individual characters. I can't see them barely adding any characters besides post-time skip Straw Hats. It would seem like a waste of a game.
Why not? Keeping all 20 from the original and adding over 20 more is more than enough for the typical new game. Even with the New Straw Hats added that leaves at least 11 new characters. That could include pretty much all the new fighting characters in the story–-Hody, Decken, Daruma, Hyouzou, Zeo, Caribou, Muhi, Fukaboshi, Ryuboshi, Manboshi and even Neptune. And we still have room for a few more playable characters.
It doesn't sound far-fetched to me at all.
The pre time skip and post time skip are going to be different characters 100%, they can't be alt costums since this is a sprite 2d fighter, giving a char an alt costume that's not just different color is plain stupied because you need to draw it all over again almost from scratch. Chopper is good example. not to talk about that we already saw new attacks.
This game absolutely needs: Smoker, Eneru, Lucci, Moria, Shanks, Bon Clay
If they're going to have two versions of Chopper over any of those characters, it's a crappy roster in my opinion.
I mean, a one time enemy like Zeo is not more important than a major enemy like Rob Lucci or characters that have appeared in multiple arcs like Bon Clay, Shanks, Smoker, and Moria.
I think the idea of just adding 9 new Straw Hats + New Fishman Pirates makes this game pretty poinltess in my opinion. A good game should at least hit on the major characters across multiple arcs, not focus on adding all the minor characters from a single arc. It'd be like a game around the time of Skypiea having Satori, Ohm, Shura, Gedatsu, Wiper, Braham, Gan Fall, and Yama, but skipping Crocodile just because he was from a previous story arc.
Lucci and Eneru are likley going to appear again. Daruma is not.
As for alt. costumes / forms of the same character in a 2D sprite based game, I'd simply look at Jump Ultimate Stars to refute that point. There are 57 characters in that game without considering alt. forms.
Gear 2 Luffy
Bankai Ichigo
Kyuubi Naruto
Perfect Clima Tact Nami
Super Saiyan Goku
Super Saiyan vegeta
Vegetto
Super Saiyan 2 Gohan
Final Over Soul Yoh
all considered the same character despite having completely different move sets and specials.
JUS had so much content, leaving characters out of this game that have major relevance to the series as a whole is just plain lazy. I mean, it was bad enough they left Robin, Franky, and Brook out of Gigant Battle. To leave more major characters out of this game for the sake of one time only characters like Zeo and Daruma is just a huge let down.
For many of us, this may be one of the last One Piece games we get to play as many do not have the money to buy a Japanese 3DS. Waiting for the sequel to the sequel in order to get a complete roster is pretty much out of the question. I'd rather have more important characters than characters that will completely loose their relevance in two years. I would be fine with them being included if this game had a ton of characters like JUS and included all kinds of cool characters like Kaku, Daz Bones, Mr. 3, etc. but that really isn't the case here.
It just seems like making a game only for FI is stupid. It's just waiting for another sequel to finally get important characters left out again.
But the title for this game is "New World". It's obvious that they're going to add a lot of the new characters. It'd be terrible, purposeful misdirection for them to call it New World and only add the new Straw Hats but then add all of the other characters that they didn't from before the two years taking place. That wouldn't make sense. I'm not looking at it by people that they should or should not have added or their importance to the past story. I'm just saying that since it is called New World and seems to be focusing on the events happening since their former training it would seem to be the obvious point to add the newest characters first and foremost, and then characters such as Lucci or Enel if their is room.
JUS is just the opposite of what you are saying…
look:
Gear 2 Luffy - different moves = new char (all jet, same moves though)
Bankai Ichigo - so different then normal Ichigo O-O play it again and look
Kyuubi Naruto - same as ichigo
Perfect Clima Tact Nami - a lot of new moves, some similar to former nami
Super Saiyan Goku - goku has the same moves and so does vegeta, but vegeta is just a hair color change, goku has a different hair, but these two are pretty much the same
Super Saiyan vegeta
Vegetto- same as goku
Super Saiyan 2 Gohan same as goku
Final Over Soul Yoh - cant really remember this one.
they where considered the same character just because this is JUS.. every level with different super moves is a different char but on the same branch.
This game however is a more basic, classic fighting game (the charecter select anyway)
Don't even get me stated with examples for games that have 2 of the same char because of different modes and moves.
Some of the moves will be the same, with a little change (like Zoro's huge pondhou) but they will have a lot of new moves.
And who said that we will have all the fishmans here? not a chance, we will get Hodi, maybe VDD. but the rest will be old chars fo sure. who? I do not know, but probably Enel, Lucci, garp and hopfully Bon chan will be in.
But definatlly not fishmens.
@Elektrik:
| So this is what i got
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/8965/781970.jpg
- Shanks assist confirmed
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So the "myth" was true this time, Shanks is playable. He's not confirmed as support, he's confirmed as playable character. Bad thing, really.
So has online capability been confirmed yet or anyone know what's going on there? I see that one of the scans mentions it but… well, I cannot read Japanese so...
I would like to know as well for wi-fi. It would suck if time skip and pre time skip luffy, chopper, ect were counted as "new" characters. I was hoping for a (the rumored) September release date, but I guess its not happening. I guess this will be the last game for the DS then.
I hope they don't do maps and crap either. As cool as it was, it was a gimmick. did they ever release all of those maps (codes) in Japan?
I also hope it is better than the 1st one. If only Grand Adventure didn't have those crappy 4kids voices. That game is the best Grand Battle game out there. If this game follows suit, this should be the best. the 1st one was a nice try, but missed some key features.
Wait guys…from those pics we can't say that Pre-Timeskip Chopper and Usopp are playable. In the picture you cannot see the player mark underneath him. You could argue that he is P1, but as we can see it the uppermost pic in the bunch, Choper is running in from the outer screen, so this Usopp could be a support character called by someone. And in the picture of Pre-Timeskip Luffy, we can clearly see that it is Post-Timeskip Chopper, not pre.
Also, Hancock can't be confirmed playable, because she does not have the playable mark underneath her either.
Shank is playable from what I can read, also there is WIFI this time :) best news ever. I would still be playing the old game if it had WIFI, I played JUS for so long for the same reason.
Awesome! Thank you.
I seriously doubt that any Straw Hat that was playable in the first game will not be playable now. Hancock I could sort of understand, but the prospect of Usopp of all people not being playable astounds me. I just doubt the dev team would do something like that.
nah I doubt they'll remove anyone from the first game. Would just be silly. Especially with the likes of Hancock. Only one I'd imagine they MAY remove if they had to would be Ivankov and Magellan. But even then it would be stupid.
Yeah i don't see any of the old characters removed. I also don't see anyone besides Hody, decken and Caribou being playable from the new arc unless somehow we see shirahoshi or another new character have a major fight. The fishman generals will all be support or at the most the octopus merman (whos name i foget) will be playable as he seems to be the strongest of them.
As for returning characters if we assume that we have all 20 plus 9 new strawhats as seperate then the remaining 11 will be: Shanks, Hody, VDD, Caribou, Smoker, Arlong, Rob Lucci, Moriah, Pre-robin, pre-franky, pre-brook and if we do get more than 40 then Kuro, Krieg, wapol, eneru and either marco or bon clay. I personally hope bon-clay but marco as an equal chance being important to marineford and all. This is assumin there will 45 because there'll be more than 40 but 99% likely there'll be less than 50
I put arlong in over eneru because of his importance in the fishman island arc (despite not appearing… yet)
Also for stages i think we'll see all the old ones and then new ones based on where they trained. We already see luffy's training level but i suspect that zoro and sanji's will also be seen. Maybe even franky and usopps. Of course we'll get fishman island levels. Probably the palace and the plaza and maybe the forest as well. Maybe though
You can see Newkama island in one of the world maps :D
I really hope we get Bon-chan..
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I would like to know as well for wi-fi. It would suck if time skip and pre time skip luffy, chopper, ect were counted as "new" characters. I was hoping for a (the rumored) September release date, but I guess its not happening. I guess this will be the last game for the DS then.
I hope they don't do maps and crap either. As cool as it was, it was a gimmick. did they ever release all of those maps (codes) in Japan?
I also hope it is better than the 1st one. If only Grand Adventure didn't have those crappy 4kids voices. That game is the best Grand Battle game out there. If this game follows suit, this should be the best. the 1st one was a nice try, but missed some key features.
I found all the map codes on Gamefaqs forum, you can get a new super move for Blackbeard! and some new levels that gives new scens :D
the only good reason to get this would be if they include wifi.
the first game got really repetitive after a while.
Full scan:
[http://www.wiiz.fr/medias/soft/2/5955/11.jpg
(](http://www.wiiz.fr/medias/soft/2/5955/11.jpg)I still hope that we will have a better quality soon to see the supports picture!)
I wonder if that is all of the supports. Squinting at it you can see some obvious ones. (Shiki, Sentomaru, Doflamingo etc) cus Kuma appears twice :/ Unless one is Pacifista Support -_-
Edit: Yeah. Can see Shiki and Sentomaru twice there too. (Sento appears on far right of the 2nd line and middle of the last line)
I'm super fucking excited, but I really hope online isn't a bust. The reason it worked so well in JUS was because you could experiment with different characters and supports (The only real problem was that… well, aside from the part most of them were just unbalanced, a lot of them were also just samey as hell). I don't think this sequel will have nearly the replay value I want if you're not able to theorycraft different supports and characters.
But well, here's hoping anyway.
Also just noticed in one of the bottom screenshots of that scan shows Luffy as his previous sprite with the yellow shirt? Does that have any significance at all?
Most of the first game's supports were samey tho :/
I REALLY hope if this is online they make it fair. Make Luffy and Ace less overpowered. Give Buggy a fighting chance etc.
Also just noticed in one of the bottom screenshots of that scan shows Luffy as his previous sprite with the yellow shirt? Does that have any significance at all?
Yup, this means that Luffy, as well as Chopper, are playable in both pre-Time Skip and post-Time Skip form, which is great if you ask me !
looking at the scan you can tell that the pre-usopp is background. I still reckon he's playable but not confirmed yet. I also like the way the maps laid out in this game
I was just about to post the scan. I like the new map. It looks like after you beat the stage, luffy plants his jolly roger flag into the ground.
It better have online, thats a big thing for me, since none of my friends like one piece. they says its meh, but they like other manga's/animes, ect. Or they are not that into it, but know the cast, ect.
I glanced at the scan and thought it was a One Piece PS3 game. Oh well, looks like pre-timeskip Luffy is in.
I hope the missions aren't as annoying. I'm trying to do the float on the bubbles for 30 seconds mission and I'm about the throw my DS across the room. I've played it for about an hour on the one mission.
I hope the missions aren't as annoying. I'm trying to do the float on the bubbles for 30 seconds mission and I'm about the throw my DS across the room. I've played it for about an hour on the one mission.
Actually, it's pretty easy: don't jump off the bubble, wait for it to burst and when ou're about to hit the floor, do a double-jump on a new bubble. My personnal record is 46 secondes with Blackbeard !
Bubbles is easy once you know what you're doing. Just don't jump all over the place or ride it to the top. I found it easier with Chopper due to his small size. I've actually got a score that maxes out the time-limit on it with him.
Official web update with new pictures, info and videos.
http://www.bandaigames.channel.or.jp/list/opj/?PHPSESSID=2e085512fd8248a35a8a7da75152944a
http://www.bandaigames.channel.or.jp/list/opj/system.html
http://www.bandaigames.channel.or.jp/list/opj/sys_01-2.html
http://www.bandaigames.channel.or.jp/list/opj/character.html
Awesome! I'm getting more excited with each new update.
I guess this means all Straw Hats are confirmed playable, right?
Awesome! I'm getting more excited with each new update.
I guess this means all Straw Hats are confirmed playable, right?
Yes and Shirohige, Ace, Ivankov, Buggy, Akainu, Aokiji, Kizaru and Magellan (plus characters we saw in scans).
That is awesome. Can't wait to see everyone's movesets.
The characters page is interesting with the categories: 9 characters slots next to the 9 Post-Time Skips Mugiwaras ? Does it mean that pre-Time Skip Robin, Franky and Brook are playable ? (or just supports ?)
No new Whitebeard Pirates ? (so no Vista ;()
No new Blackbeard pirates ?
One new Marines ! (Hina maybe ? Or Morgan ?)
Could the 4 slots be the Red Haired Pirates ? (there is two of them, the first one can be the Supernovaes)
Let the speculations begin ! :)
Oh nice to finally confirm Franky and Brook. It really makes me wonder who else. I find it very hard to believe they aren't putting Vista in or more of the BB pirates. Did they confirm no playable Bon tho :/ shame. I suppose we can rule out Garp, Sentomaru and Sengoku too. (unless they'll be changed later) The extra marine I'm guessing to be Hina. Unless they do Kong or someone.
I'm liking the new stage designs. I wonder though if the snow part in magellans video is just a redesign of the snow part in impel down level because the wolfs are missing and it looks really different.
The lack of certain characters like smoker, marco and lucci give me hopes for them being playable. They also havn't shown us the warlords page yet. Judging by there being 6 pages and us only seeing 3 i take it we still have a lot to come. There also seems to be a theme. I could be wrong but the first page seems to be straw hats, 2nd page is pirates who were important in the marineford arc and the 4th page is marineford + associates. This could be wrong but on pg 4 their are two sections left. 1 is 4 squares the other 3. If we assume black beards on pg 2 then the 3 squares could be ex-warlords (crocodile, jinbei and moriah) and the 4 is remaining (kuma, hancock, doflamingo, mihawk)
Edit: the 4 could actually be CP9 but that would mean no new cp9 members and then i wouldn't know what the 3 is. Also i reckon the marine is hina or tsura. But more likely hina
nah I think Shichibuki will be all on one line. Besides it's pretty safe to say that Croc will be with the other ID escapees. I think the set of 3 will probably be Spandam, Lucci and Kaku. Set of 4 is Law, Kid, Bonney and Urouge. (Although I'd be surprised if we don't see Bepo, Apoo, Hawkins, Drake and Capone in some form) I'm not gonna think for now that missing on the page = playable. cus of some who are missing, Marco and Smoker yes, but Mr. 3, Sadi-Chan, Laffitte and Doc Q are also missing. And I doubt any of them will be playable (possibly Mr. 3) Would be a shame if they made Marco playable and not Bon tho. But meh.
My guess for the slots:
Page 1: Mugiwaras PTS and TS
Page 2: Whitebeard Pirates (missing the obvious Marco: could he be playable?), Blackbeard Pirates, Impel Down allies (missing Crocodile and Mr 3), Revolutionnaries (missing Dragon) and Supernovaes (Kidd, Law, Urouge and Bonney. No Bepo ;()
Page 4: Marines (missing Smoker, Tashigi, Coby/Helmeppo and a new character), Impel Down staff (missing Hannyabal and Sadi-Chan), CP9 (missing Spadam, Lucci and Kaku) and the loyal Shichibukai (DoFla, Kuma, Mihawk and Moria)
Page 3 may be the Mugiwaras allies, Pages 5 the East Blue/Past characters and page 6 the PTS characters.
Edit: Cyber Robin posted almost the same thing as me at the same time!)
Hmmmm. Just noticed in one of the pics we see Chopper in his Heavy Point. However it's pre-TimeSkip hat variation. So I guess this confirms either Pre-TS Chopper is playable or a support. Also on the far left of the Jinbe, Hancock and Luffy pic you can see pre-TimeSkip Brook. Looks too big to be a background (and he doesn't appear on that island too.)
Also on the far left of the Jinbe, Hancock and Luffy pic you can see pre-TimeSkip Brook. Looks too big to be a background (and he doesn't appear on that island too.)
you know what? that hut looks vaguely like the one on the island Brook was sent to by Kuma (he is in similar pose as to when he appeared as satan in the small hut..) idk but maybe the stage is like a combination of all the straw hat training areas???? i disagree about the too big for background. if you look at his feet, you can see that he is not on the same plane as the other characters, he is set in the room..
I just hope some supports are playable, like Gecko, and so on.
Also for the bubble one, I do that, but when i jump, no bubbles are there, or when i mid air jump, I do it on top of one, and fly upwards and landing on the platform above.
I would also like a change in controls too. I would like a Normal attack and then a hard one, or something like JUS. One button for all attacks, makes it seem like a mash fest, even more so, since you cannot cancel into other moves once you start a combo.
if you look at the videos, you can see that they also got rid of those annoying screen stopping cutscenes before specials. watch magellans and you'll see it is gone
I am going to main Franky so fucking fast.
Pleeeaaase don't fuck this up Ganbarion.
if you look at the videos, you can see that they also got rid of those annoying screen stopping cutscenes before specials. watch magellans and you'll see it is gone
Well that would fuck up online play.
they won't all be playable obviously but it means there's a chance that they could be.
Cool stuff. So … does Bon Clay's presence as a support mean he definitely won't be playable then? If not even Bon made it....Moria, Eneru, Lucci, and Smoker's chances are decreasing which is a shame.
im also wondering why they didn't bother to redo any of the character artwork from the previous game. It seems lazy, i hope this game isn't rushed and half assed sequel
Yeah I think it's only the Time Skip chars that are different (Luffy, Nami and Robin have their TS artwork obviously) but is that really important? I'd rather see them working on more important things like characters and supports.
I dunno about being a rushed and half assed sequel. I'm thinking this is more like the game we should have gotten last year (Main cast, proper roster, Online etc)
Official web update with new pictures, info and videos.
- Robin, Franky and Brook playable.
- Luffy has new movements.
- Some old characters confirmed.
- Old stages has been redesigned.
http://www.bandaigames.channel.or.jp/list/opj/img/sys/01-2/sys_01-2_24.jpg
http://www.bandaigames.channel.or.jp/list/opj/?PHPSESSID=2e085512fd8248a35a8a7da75152944a
http://www.bandaigames.channel.or.jp/list/opj/system.html
http://www.bandaigames.channel.or.jp/list/opj/sys_01-2.html
http://www.bandaigames.channel.or.jp/list/opj/character.html
tHANKS A LOT, rEDON!
Well, the supports are still exactly the same. And they are keeping the tradition of mixing different places in a single stage (The Luffy flashback stage has the mountain bandits den right next to the gray terminal). And no Bon? I hope he's not ruled out yet.
On the positive side, the underwater sunny stage looks awesome, and TS Robin and Franky look fucking great.
I am SO hyped for this game.
I am also writing a list of Supports and Playable Characters. Vivi and Mr. 3 are supports from what I know, but they weren't shown as supports in videos, so they may be playable. More likely Vivi than Mr. 3.
EDIT: Looks like Lucci, kaku and Enel have the same sprites as No. 1.
amiami has it up for pre-order.
Special Edition: http://www.amiami.jp/shop/?set=english&vgForm=ProductInfo&sku=TVG-NDS-2973&template=default/product/e_display.html (sold out)