I'm a huge regional chauvinist.
What do you want to fight for?
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@Monkey:
I'm a huge regional chauvinist.
Bullshit! I don't believe that for one second.
explain all of this.
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I think something has to be understood about why I'm like this. It's two things.
1. It's being away from home for five years, in it's virtual antithesis for that matter.
2. But it's this one that makes the most difference. While Southerners can't ever seem to shut up about regional pride, people up here mostly seem to take for granted where they live and casually whine about this or that, not knowing how great we have it. I think we even have a sort of psychology where we (who don't live in New York or Boston anyway) have this idea of ourselves not as shitty so much as hugely boring, and we think the proper response to "do you like where you live" is to make bitterly sarcastic comments about how dull things are.
Like this post kind of.
http://www.apforums.net/showthread.php?t=762&p=18765&highlight=bridgeport#post18765
Seven years later and i want to go back and time and punch myself in the face for that post. I remember writing it, not out of spite, I never actually hated things here, but I thought it was boring and thought it would be funny to play class clown and self-deprecate for everyone, that's all it meant to me.Now?
1: Our beaches aren't the best or anything, but they're decent. And quiet for one, not overcrowded at all, you can easily go out there in the middle of the day with some friends and basically have a private hang out barring the occasional old man out for a walk.
2: Long Island protects us from hurricanes, and being away from so much water gives us slightly better snows.
3: WAW WAW, WE EDUCATE OURSELVES, BOY I WISH I COULD LIVE IN LOUISIANA WHERE YOU LITERALLY HAVE TO GO TO PRIVATE SCHOOL IF YOU WANT TO GET ANY KIND OF SCHOOLING AT ALL BECAUSE THEY GUT THE EDUCATION FUNDING DOWN THERE.
And annoying preps are fucking everywhere. Nerds are even more common.4: I don't even know where the goth comment came from. Our valleys are poor in that Rust Belt way, how can I hate on this? These are my neighbors and co-workers whose grandaddies worked in steel mills and whose daddies lost their jobs when hard industry declined. Derby/Ansonia/Allentown/Lowell are rough blue collar places, but damn it they're full of heart. And some of them can come back strong.
Plus the actual physical valley and hill landscape of much of the rural Northeast is fucking gorgeous and simple, I never realized how nice it was until I lived somewhere where I was able to mistake the land horizon with a sea horizon. Elevation rules.5: It's beautiful here, simple beautiful, I'm not claiming any kind of Rocky Mts or Southern Utah, but everything is in it's right place. The landscape, the foilage, the cities even are the most organic looking in the entire country due to much more plastic looking city planning that defines places like shudder Florida. Nature and People have mixed our creations so wonderfully. I actually get my breath taken when I drive the Merrit Parkway down into the valley in front of West Rock in New Haven and see the city flash in front of me from up high before I drive down into the valley itself and into a manmade tunnel through West Rock.
6: Hartford is actually really pretty, our state capitol building in CT is possibly the best looking one in the country, it's fucking amazing looking, better looking than many actual capital buildings for countries. Looks better than the Kremlin! It looks like a European chateau. New Haven is…..fucking amazing...it looks mundane from the I-95, but that's a complete front. Go down into it and wow.... I actually took a personal day and just went down to the Yale campus to shop for history books and CD's, and just marveled at all the buildings, nightlife, energetic young people my age, GREAT and WIDE variety of foods (the pizza is heaven). I plan to live there sooner than later. Bridgeport still sucks lol. But that's OK, because we have Stamford and Norwalk which are both very well to do and very pretty.
7: I don't even beleive that I bitched about taking a silly test, I live in the most fortunate state in regards to education. What a little spoiled bitch I was to whine.
8: THE STATE IN BETWEEN NEW YORK AND BOSTON, WHY IS THIS A CON. Fuck, I take for granted pulling on the highway in town and seeing the basic direction sign say "I-95 South - New York City - 62 Miles" when most people in the country, nay world, would find that amazing. GOD I can't believe what a little spoiled brat I was writing that shit...
9: As if I even need to start on how grateful I should be about local politicians, of all stripes and parties, compared to other places.
10: The best suburbs, organically grown, not Levitown social experiments, old style houses the dream of any historical preservation major....people everywhere...woods...and plenty of small cities dotting the landscape between the major cities which dot the landscape between the massive cities like Boston, New York and Philly. Would I prefer what i saw on my ride through SC? Swampy flat nothing? Evidently retarded 16 year old me would.
And that's the default for most people around here, how I was in 2005.
Smudger, I HAVE to speak out! This wonderful land! And people too spoiled to notice! I'll say one thing for the South, they have lots of pride. We should be every bit as proud, no, more! Yet we whine about valley goths or whatever the fuck. A need for change is here! -
I'm willing to fight for anything, but not for a country, for fame (lol, only the lowest of the low fight for this) or for my own comfort and luxury. Of course I'll fight for my life any time of the day and that's what any sane human being is doing 24h a day.
I used to get really mad about any kind of injustice, even for very little things I stood up. Nowadays it subdued alot, and I need to see a really big injustice to be fazed by it, hmmm not really a good sign.
As for god/faith, yep I mean jihad. The great jihad, but maybe you should search for the meaning of the word before you judge me/it.
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I'm willing to fight for anything, but not for a country,
What a shock ;p
@Mugiwara_no_Ice:As for god/faith, yep I mean jihad. The great jihad, but maybe you should search for the meaning of the word before you judge me/it.
In what way would you fight for it?
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New Haven owns.
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@Monkey:
! I think something has to be understood about why I'm like this. It's two things.
! 1. It's being away from home for five years, in it's virtual antithesis for that matter.
! 2. But it's this one that makes the most difference. While Southerners can't ever seem to shut up about regional pride, people up here mostly seem to take for granted where they live and casually whine about this or that, not knowing how great we have it. I think we even have a sort of psychology where we (who don't live in New York or Boston anyway) have this idea of ourselves not as shitty so much as hugely boring, and we think the proper response to "do you like where you live" is to make bitterly sarcastic comments about how dull things are.
Like this post kind of.
http://www.apforums.net/showthread.php?t=762&p=18765&highlight=bridgeport#post18765
Seven years later and i want to go back and time and punch myself in the face for that post. I remember writing it, not out of spite, I never actually hated things here, but I thought it was boring and thought it would be funny to play class clown and self-deprecate for everyone, that's all it meant to me.
! Now?
! 1: Our beaches aren't the best or anything, but they're decent. And quiet for one, not overcrowded at all, you can easily go out there in the middle of the day with some friends and basically have a private hang out barring the occasional old man out for a walk.
! 2: Long Island protects us from hurricanes, and being away from so much water gives us slightly better snows.
! 3: WAW WAW, WE EDUCATE OURSELVES, BOY I WISH I COULD LIVE IN LOUISIANA WHERE YOU LITERALLY HAVE TO GO TO PRIVATE SCHOOL IF YOU WANT TO GET ANY KIND OF SCHOOLING AT ALL BECAUSE THEY GUT THE EDUCATION FUNDING DOWN THERE.
And annoying preps are fucking everywhere. Nerds are even more common.
! 4: I don't even know where the goth comment came from. Our valleys are poor in that Rust Belt way, how can I hate on this? These are my neighbors and co-workers whose grandaddies worked in steel mills and whose daddies lost their jobs when hard industry declined. Derby/Ansonia/Allentown/Lowell are rough blue collar places, but damn it they're full of heart. And some of them can come back strong.
Plus the actual physical valley and hill landscape of much of the rural Northeast is fucking gorgeous and simple, I never realized how nice it was until I lived somewhere where I was able to mistake the land horizon with a sea horizon. Elevation rules.
! 5: It's beautiful here, simple beautiful, I'm not claiming any kind of Rocky Mts or Southern Utah, but everything is in it's right place. The landscape, the foilage, the cities even are the most organic looking in the entire country due to much more plastic looking city planning that defines places like shudder Florida. Nature and People have mixed our creations so wonderfully. I actually get my breath taken when I drive the Merrit Parkway down into the valley in front of West Rock in New Haven and see the city flash in front of me from up high before I drive down into the valley itself and into a manmade tunnel through West Rock.
! 6: Hartford is actually really pretty, our state capitol building in CT is possibly the best looking one in the country, it's fucking amazing looking, better looking than many actual capital buildings for countries. Looks better than the Kremlin! It looks like a European chateau. New Haven is…..fucking amazing...it looks mundane from the I-95, but that's a complete front. Go down into it and wow.... I actually took a personal day and just went down to the Yale campus to shop for history books and CD's, and just marveled at all the buildings, nightlife, energetic young people my age, GREAT and WIDE variety of foods (the pizza is heaven). I plan to live there sooner than later. Bridgeport still sucks lol. But that's OK, because we have Stamford and Norwalk which are both very well to do and very pretty.
! 7: I don't even beleive that I bitched about taking a silly test, I live in the most fortunate state in regards to education. What a little spoiled bitch I was to whine.
! 8: THE STATE IN BETWEEN NEW YORK AND BOSTON, WHY IS THIS A CON. Fuck, I take for granted pulling on the highway in town and seeing the basic direction sign say "I-95 South - New York City - 62 Miles" when most people in the country, nay world, would find that amazing. GOD I can't believe what a little spoiled brat I was writing that shit...
! 9: As if I even need to start on how grateful I should be about local politicians, of all stripes and parties, compared to other places.
! 10: The best suburbs, organically grown, not Levitown social experiments, old style houses the dream of any historical preservation major....people everywhere...woods...and plenty of small cities dotting the landscape between the major cities which dot the landscape between the massive cities like Boston, New York and Philly. Would I prefer what i saw on my ride through SC? Swampy flat nothing? Evidently retarded 16 year old me would.
! And that's the default for most people around here, how I was in 2005.
Smudger, I HAVE to speak out! This wonderful land! And people too spoiled to notice! I'll say one thing for the South, they have lots of pride. We should be every bit as proud, no, more! Yet we whine about valley goths or whatever the fuck. A need for change is here!This could definitely be confession session material. :P
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There's one thing I grew older and wiser about and it's actually connected to the topic. Before I thought it was important to fight only for defending my past. Then I learned you can't change your past and it's best to live in the moment and worry about the future. Fight for what's really important and not what has been done. If anything learn from the past and don't make the same mistakes.
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Thanks for explaining it Zeph. I can understand what you mean from the experiences you've had. But at the same time I bet you could pick out some really cool and unique things from the less favourable places you mentioned that have stuck with you to this day.
As for me: I don't live out there and can't say I've been in the exact same situation. But I will say that despite England being only a few hundred miles in each direction its so drastically diverse its absurd. We are like the US stuffed into one tiny yet overwhelmingly abstract package, with tons and tons of different cultures, outlooks, ways of life and accents to boot.
I was brought up in a really snobby area that viewed most of the northern parts of England as common and southern as backward and slow…..but that isn't the case in the slightest. In fact it might sound odd saying this but I've been to so many places expecting them to full fill my mental stereotype, and had a does of reality slap me around the face and shown me just how wrong I was. Now admittedly there are places I wouldn't want to permanently reside in, but the people and various quirks to the area have made it so darn unique and memorable that i can't help but admire them.
This is also one of the most human posts I've seen from you for quite a while. I can't remember how longs its been since you mentioned something a lil more personal, or at least more at home. Good stuff...
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I was brought up in a really snobby area that viewed most of the northern parts of England as common and southern as backward and slow…..but that isn't the case in the slightest. In fact it might sound odd saying this but I've been to so many places expecting them to full fill my mental stereotype, and had a does of reality slap me around the face and shown me just how wrong I was. Now admittedly there are places I wouldn't want to permanently reside in, but the people and various quirks to the area have made it so darn unique and memorable that i can't help but admire them.
They make better music in the North.
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I thought about the fame stuff… and I have to admit, I'd fight for the kind of fame I want.
I mean, if I ever want to success with my own fashion label than I need to be some kind of famous to some kind of people. Otherwise it just doesn't work. So I'll fight for my dream to come true.
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@metteminne:
In what way would you fight for it?
Hmmm I think this should need a better/thorough explanation, which I don't have the time for now. But I'll come back later and explain myself.
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LOL, that's what I thought when I saw that. 2 Vivis on the forums, lol.
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Watching those videos is making me crave Wintertime like nothing else.
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Fight?
If I ever had to fight, it would either to not be stepped on or to punish people who had been avoiding it too long. -
I'd like to say "Why should I fight?" and vote accordingly but that would associate me with Vivi.
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@metteminne:
In what way would you fight for it?
Jihad is just the arabic word for struggle. And the main fight a believer does is the struggle against his own self/ego. That's what we'd call the great jihad.
Hmmm of course there is also the jihad used in a military sense, I don't deny that aspect, but that's never been the emphasis of the word and/or the beliefs of the majority of believers.
But just to be clear I'm also willing to fight for my faith if for instance tomorrow a witch hunt is started and people of my faith are being persecuted for no reason and stuff. Yeah I'll be a damn outlaw revolutionarist in that case and will never give up on what I am or what I believe.
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Simple. i fight for things i think worth fighting for so nothing in specific really some times under different circumstances
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There is no option, "to become the pirate king." I shall remain undecided until this problem shall be attended to.
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I fight for freedom within my household.
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I don't think I would ever physically battle for something, unless it was absolutely necessary. Not to sound like some sort of whiny loser, but the idea of resorting to violence to accomplish a goal sickens me. Fighting isn't for me, nope. I have no particular bond to any specific location, faith, culture, or anything, so I can't imagine myself fighting for anything like that. So yeah. I don't fight, I'm Vivi, oh no.
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I don't think I would ever physically battle for something, unless it was absolutely necessary. Not to sound like some sort of whiny loser, but the idea of resorting to violence to accomplish a goal sickens me. Fighting isn't for me, nope. I have no particular bond to any specific location, faith, culture, or anything, so I can't imagine myself fighting for anything like that. So yeah. I don't fight, I'm Vivi, oh no.
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@Monkey:
lolllll, really? Are you guys really this naive?
My sarcasm was ineffective?
I wasn't being serious when I said that one, Zeph.And I see a lot of folks are voting for freedom, but what about good 'ol..
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After giving it some consideration, I am a little surprised to realize that I would be willing to fight for well over half of the motivations listed here. I have always thought of myself as a peaceful enough person, but should push become shove, it seems I am more comfortable with conflict than I would have originally guessed.