@Mr.:
Okay, we know FI is going to be a long arc. The thing is I haven't seen any indication that the main threat is anyone bigger than Hodi or Decken. I could be wrong but there's no human dictator/tennryubito oppressing the Island and there's no Big Pirate putting mermaids on the market as far as I can see.
I don't see it either, but even Keimi mentioned there was a sort of conspiracy involved. This arc is unlikely to end anytime soon - you said it yourself - there's plenty of time to introduce a major force.
@dlo62282:
Reyaria…they are both supramict for their race...so what? Hell, arlong park was about saving nami and her town from arlong's reign. If anything this arc resembles albasta since a group of people are trying to overthrow a kingdom.
Hell many villains share personality traits, doesnt make the arc a rehash. Arlong park had very little to do with fishmen "power".
Wait… you're saying Arlong Park wasn't about oppressing a race deemed inferior? Are you serious? It had everything to do with fishman supremacy since that's why Arlong was booted off the sunnies to begin with.
This arc most resembles Water Seven, to be honest.
1. Get into trouble with ruling politician.
2. Get framed.
3. Getting attacked by a minor party.
4. Most likely will end up in some WG island. (Mariejois)
@dlo62282:
Oda is very formulatic anyway, if you cant see that then oh well.
Just because he follows a formula doesn't mean he's going to clone a villain. Seriously, why would Oda put so much effort into trying to change his reader's mind about fishmen just to throw in a fishman supremacist as an antagonist?
Why won't any of you answer that question?
@dlo62282:
His main concepts has been strawhats go to island, they help island , party then leave. Same thing here, just different ways of executing it.
Of course that will be the case, but it's not going to be by defeating a fishman supremacist. Luffy already did that, there's absolutely no reason to do that again and keep the plot that simple this far into the story and when there's been so many new things involving fishman oppression now. Oda didn't get Keimi kidnapped and Hatchan shot for no reason at all.
@Toad:
I think that most of you misunderstand the people saying that FI is gonna be a short arc.
FI is gonna be the water seven from Enies Lobby. That how i read it when i see people saying this. Most likely the action is gonna take place elsewhere (we already changing location to the forest of the sea..).
Not really, since I've heard too many "I'm sick of fishman island, forget the fact that it is the most heavily foreshadowed arc after Raftel, I wanna get to the New World BAWW."
@EvoWarrior5:
@ Reyairia
Do not forget that if anything, the government still has to do with Fishman Racism.
The Auction Hall in Sabaody Archipelago is allowed to sell mermaids, they don't do shit about it.
And if Fishman Island DOES really need protection even after slavery has been forbidden, the government should do that as well. Not some pirate who claims the island is theirs.
I'm not saying Luffy is going to declare FI his territory, but he's probably going to pull a Fisher Tiger and kick more tenryuubito ass. Not only did we have the whole conflict at Saobody, Luffy lost a friend at the hands of the world nobles and the tenryuubito, and you guys think it's not going to be a big deal at all???
@EvoWarrior5:
I'm not going against your theorys, but I just wanna say that this arc may be less important than you think. I think that the Fishman racism stuff is not going to be concluded 'till the end of the story, when the final war strikes and the Government is knocked back to sense.
For starters, I think it's perfectly fine for Luffy to attack Mariejois. What I'm sure will be reserved until the end will be Marineford, not Mariejois. After all, Fisher Tiger was unlikely to be as strong as a yonkou and yet he was able to pull it off. Marineford was something not even Whitebeard and his pirates were able to defeat. What would show Luffy's strength more? Besides, Luffy going there and freeing some slaves is not synonymous with taking down the WG because otherwise the WG would have been taken down 15 years ago when Fisher Tiger did the things he did.
Are the tenryuubito and slavery still around? Yes.
I'm not saying Luffy will abolish slavery, but he is definitely going to pull a big stunt when coincidentally (Hint: not) he had a flashback about how Sabo died and how nobles burnt down people's homes right before the timeskip.
@EvoWarrior5:
I don't know 'bout you, but I believe that Luffy will be able to make a huge step towards peace in this arc, but I don't think that he will put a complete stop to everything on his own here and now.
Exactly; he will make a huge step towards things in Mariejois - which means it will NOT be short.
@Ludovic:
because he said it doesn't have to mean it revolves around his hatrid for humans you instantly say that means it isn't serious? (then you say you're not jumping to conclusions )
I didn't jump to any conclusions. He said so himself in one of his posts he believed Fishman Island could be like Thriller Bark. I'm not the one that pulled that out, he did.
@Ludovic:
if he hates humans, it does not make it a second arlong
If his entire character revolves around hating humans and wanting to send them to bottom of the sea, and make fishmen known as the superior race, and he is only going to get beat up by Luffy for behaving that way, yes that makes him a second Arlong.
Thus, I don't believe Hodi Jones is going to stay that way. There's going to be something more to him than just being a fishman supremacist to get beat up.
@Cutty:
Dunno why u all speak bad of TB arc.
Moria introduction
Zoros gets a new sword
New nakama
Funny as hell
Kuma introduction
I don't hate Thriller Bark, I just don't think the Fishman arc is going to be "funny as hell" and will definitely be dark considering the whole concept of slavery has been linked to the sea races. You have to be stupid to think that it's not going to be a major theme in this arc, since mermaids have already been kidnapped to be sold.
@Coruscation:
TB wasn't a "completely" non-serious arc. Sure, it may have had more straight-up goofiness than something like Alabasta. But there were definitely great, serious moments in it, like Zoro vs. Ryuuma and the final confrontations with Moria and Kuma, as well as Brooke's flashback. Maybe the fact that it had an opponent like Oars made it come off as less overall serious, since he came off as goofy even when he was stomping the SH's lights out.
The only thing that was really dark about Thriller Bark was the whole Hogback reviving dead people part. While TB did have its serious moments, it wasn't a very deep arc which I'm 100% sure Fishman Island will be considering, you know, slavery.
@i:
Reyairia you really need to stop jumping to conclusions. If you go back and read (actually read, not angry nerd speed reading) what I put all I said was I wouldn't mind seeing FI end with a boss rush LIKE Thriller Bark. I'm not saying it has to because there's already 2 antagonists introduced I was simply saying that personally I would be a fan of it.
No you didn't. You said that you couldn't see why Fishman Island couldn't end up like Thriller Bark. You said that you thought Hodi was a psychopath that likes meaningless killing. I told you that that was rightfully bullshit.
Don't pull that crap now.
@i:
Idk I feel like there's no reason at all for there not to be another powerful fishman with the same mindset as Arlong. Everyone is talking about it like it's impossible but I don't see why not. Hodi is probably one (of many) Fishman supremacist that despise humans for any number of reasons. If anything I'm betting that along with shortening his life, those steroids he takes probably make him crazy.
@i:
I'm truthfully hoping Fishman Island is sort of a boss rush arc a la Thriller Bark. Between Vander Decken, Hodi and any number of other villains it's definitely possible. There's no reason FI can't be a long arc ending with a gauntlet of baddies the revamped SH's are itching to fight.
"I don't see why not"
"it's definitely possible."
"there's no reason FI can't be."
That's not "I hope" that's "I think it's possible." Stop whining when someone points out that what you think is possible is not true as some bogus attack on your hopes and dreams.
If you don't care about Fishman Island and want to get to the New World soon, fine, I don't give a shit. Maybe you aren't sympathetic to oppressed minorities like AlmostLegendary. But don't expect people to asspat you and respect your "opinion" when you start talking like it's actually possible that this arc is going to be all happy and simple and shit. Grow up.