You don't seem to understand that you're the only site that continuously fails to keep reservations on prize items. As I said before, the "it's a prize item" and the unexpected manufacturer cuts aren't a valid excuse. I don't know what the other sites do but they never let us down.
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I want to know how Toyslogic expects to keep their WCF pre-orders when Bandai has announced that they'll cut companies that are selling the prizes instead of putting them in prize machines.
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I am sorry that I did not use the correct term, I will use "reservation" if that is the preferred term.
Maybe you should just change your 'reservation/pre-order' items to a waiting list.
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Sorry we cannot speak for other shops. They probably don't want to wait and see so they cancel the order to avoid hassle like this.
you don't get it, huh?
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put up preorders and as soon as they realize that the item is too hard to get and that they might not, they cancel all preorders (like .. a few weeks after they opened the preorders). this way, customers are only little dissappointed since they still have enough time to look for the item elsewhere. = customers return to the shop, even though they might not have gotten an item ONCE, as they trust the shop.you:
put up preorders almost before every other shop does and let people preorder it. then after waiting for MONTHS .. HOPING that you can get the item .. and when it's finally released, cancel all preorders since well … YOU COULDN'T GET IT! this behaviour leaves customers SUUUUUUUUUUPAAAA~ dissappointed since they have no time to look elsewhere as they thought "hey I already preordered it at toyslogic" and therefore ignore other shops that open preorders in the meanwhile. = customers are pissed and some are probably never going to shop with you again, as they feel that this kind of behaviour (especially if it happend several times) is unacceptable.and it's kinda interesting that you are one of the only shops to not get their items, yet you tell us "we have very reliable sources". well obviously, all the other shop's sources are even more reliable since they can keep preorders even for prize items, or cancel months before the release date (as in HLJ's case).
and it would be nice if you'd just think about what POSSIBLE CUSTOMERS here think about that behaviour instead of replying with the same nonsense over and over again.
I want to know how Toyslogic expects to keep their WCF pre-orders when Bandai has announced that they'll cut companies that are selling the prizes instead of putting them in prize machines.
as far as I understand edrick … they'll probably put the WCFs up for preorder and see what happens. ^^'' hey, they could be lucky, ya know?!
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As others have been mentioning, letting people assume they have something pre-ordered with you means they won't know they'll need to look for alternatives until it's too late. They'll also probably have to end up paying far more because the other sources that normally have them will probably have their stocks depleted already as well.
For items that are as inconsistently obtained as prize figures, maybe you should wait till you have them in stock before listing them in the first place. You want to know the demand for the items to avoid overstocking, I assume, but from what I see the prize figures sell out really quickly anyways and the manufacturers don't really give retailers a whole lot so you might as well. It's like you're just giving customers unnecessary stress with your pre-order mishaps :|
~ ASCE ~ace squid crew extraordinaire
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and it would be nice if you'd just think about what POSSIBLE CUSTOMERS here think about that behaviour instead of replying with the same nonsense over and over again.
Honestly, I saw the posts here and decided to give them a try. My order's en route right now.
To be fair, pre-orders aren't something anyone can guarantee, and the bashing here is rather excessive. Yes, it would be nice if they COULD alert the customers way ahead of time to give them time to look for alternatives, but as someone who spent career in retail field for 10 years, I can tell you it's not always possible. Stores located in HK have a much better chance at assessing estimates of incoming stock, and Japan comes next.
And IMO, many stores located in US does the same thing with preorders, this one just happens to have a face to bash in forums.
If you want a better estimate of pre-order availability, why not simply stick to asia based stores? Perhaps your expectations are simply unfair.I'm sure they have shortcomings, but seriously, I think the lynching here is totally excessive.
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well said Aohige :cheerful:
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You're being far too generous, Aohige. It's not just that they fail, they fail without any thought or consideration of the customers. Pre-orders shouldn't be taken since they fail almost every time on prize items and they lead us to believe we can rely on them with a pre-order when we can't. They wait until the last fucking minute to tell us they won't have the item, at least other sites tell us shortly after when they aren't sure or know they can't get it, and advise us to look quickly elsewhere.
I'm not going to recycle everything I've already said but they don't deserve our business, but they most certainly deserve the bashing.
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well I'm not saying toyslogic isn't trying to change. they really seem to work on all those problems like unanswered emails and shipping which took ages. it's great that they are indeed improving regarding the aforementioned problems. however I still don't like their handling of preorder items, especially if it's prize items. and I do believe that there's other ways instead of telling customers to just live with it.
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communication was good with my orders, packing was blah could be better, shipping was horrible, mistakes were horrible, waiting times horrible , shipping times horrible, prices were fair, 50% promotion was nice.
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You're being far too generous, Aohige. It's not just that they fail, they fail without any thought or consideration of the customers. Pre-orders shouldn't be taken since they fail almost every time on prize items and they lead us to believe we can rely on them with a pre-order when we can't. They wait until the last fucking minute to tell us they won't have the item, at least other sites tell us shortly after when they aren't sure or know they can't get it, and advise us to look quickly elsewhere.
And who are these "other sites" that you speak of?
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And who are these "other sites" that you speak of?
If you mean AmiAmi, HLJ or PlayAsia, I've given reason why they have better idea of availability assessment.BBTS for one, and that still doesn't excuse how poorly ToysLogic conducts business. Many better alternatives for TL have been shared in this thread but they were turned down because they believe they know better. Obviously they must be a business phenomenon with all of these people not liking their site at all and coming here to plea for a second chance when they aren't willing to listen to better conditions for everyone.
Pre-order should be "Waiting list" with clearly outlined details of what that means, or do not take pre-orders at all on limited/prize items so there's no disappointment to be had. They shouldn't be misleading us with the guise of having a rock solid reservation in place when it's just fishing for bids.
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I know one thing I try my best to make all the customers happy. That's the best I can do and pass the rest to the boss. I take what I hear here and give them feed back. I handle all the orders and emails and so forth. I told them how you guys feel and that's all I can do. Ive noticed Xajen has some kind of vendetta against Toyslogic thats cool we all heard what you had to say but enough is enough. It might be time to move on
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Is Otakudaze21 a legit seller in ebay. thanks guys
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Is there some reason that CDJapan has not been considered a trusted retailer?
I'm looking to order two One Piece CDs and CDJapan has one of them that the other sites do not (the BGM one), so I'm just wondering.
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CD Japan is trusted , I wonder why it's not listed here :/
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Is Yes Asia trusted, too?
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yes Yes-asia also
Is there some reason that CDJapan has not been considered a trusted retailer?.
Its a good list but not evry trusted store is listed.
Its based on the feedbacks people left here. I quess there was none for CD Japan and Yeassia then.The last update of that list was also more then 6 months ago.
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yeah, just to add a few, Ningyoushi is also a trusted online store … well I trust them. ^^
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any idea if toy_cardseller on ebay sells legit items?
too bad the pictures shown on the items are the commercial ones, but their feedback is 99.8% so i'm not sure either!this thread really needs to update its first page…..
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I once bought my monster chopper from them and it's definately legit. however I've heard of some people, that they got bootlegs. as far as I know, toy_cardseller should already be listed on the first page .. jupp:
kakalolo12 & toy_cardseller (same seller; mix of bootleg & official; YMMV)
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i just checked again and yes but didn't notice toy-cardseller came after a certain name.. but that still worries me if their carrying bootlegs, cuz i want the POP aokiji they've got and they wrote its by megahouse and that it's legit.. they also did say they never carry bootlegs or fakes in their description.
So far i haven't had problems with sellers on ebay, but of course i had to do my research first. what happens if i receive a bootleg and how do i deal with such a matter, is it true ebay refunds you if you file complain? did anyone come a cross a situation like that? -
Yes Ebay will side with you if you receive a bootleg, especially since your seller claims it is from Megahouse.
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From my experience feedback is not usually a good bootleg tell… Most people don't mention it or care I guess.
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This is a copy paste from my post on the Marketplace thread. I bought something from forum member sogek and it did not end well. I didn't want to make a big deal about this since I got my money back, but he decided to defame me. I think this belongs here instead.
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Funny how you make it seem like I am wrong when you only give your side of the story. Now I have to repeat myself to you all over again. You just don't seem to get it.I joined exclusively to buy a Christmas present for my wife since this was the only place in the world that had a SW Nami v1 at a decent price. I knew exactly what I was buying, I knew that it was used, and was satisfied with the price. You sold it to me for $170+$25 shipping+$5 paypal fee and told me that it would arrive in 1-3 weeks. I don't know where you keep getting these values of 150$ and 50$ but that is another story.
Nami was announced for a re-release around 2 weeks after I bought it, and I did not preorder, thinking that yours will come. 2 weeks passed from when you shipped, and I did not receive your package, so I asked you about it. You told me to wait. 3 weeks passed and no present for my wife. Ok, holiday rush, it might need more time. I told her better late than never, and had a really shitty Christmas.
I informed you that if it doesn't come soon I would have to file a dispute with paypal because they only give you 45 days to do something about it. You agreed to this. Almost 6 weeks passed and it still did not arrive so I file for dispute. It does not take this long for SAL to get to USA. I even had SAL packages ordered later that arrived already. You gave me all this BS on how the package is already in the USA, but when I went to check at my post office and called USPS international dept, they said that the package never left Indonesia. (Infact it is still there as of today.) The package was obviously mishandled, and this is the seller's responsibilty not the buyer's. So I ask you for a refund, and tell you to get your package back since it is still in Indonesia. I even offered to pay 30$ for the shipping cost since I didn't know if you could get that back or not. You refused to even listen to me and kept stalling (Telling me that you would check at your post office but not actually going. I know this because you kept saying that you would "go today" and I would receive the same exact message the next day.) until the dispute was going to expire. I was tired of your BS, so I escalate to a claim and got my money back.
I am sure you refused to give a refund because you knew that you would never sell it again at that price. You are so paranoid and only concerned about making money. I just wanted my Nami. If the package arrived, I would have nothing to complain about, and no reason to file a dispute. If I really wanted to do what you accused me of doing, I would have disputed right when the re-release was announced and not wait for 6 weeks. (think about it) Paypal doesn't handle disputes about item quality outside of ebay. They only care if it arrived or not. There is really nothing I can do if I get the package, I am stuck with it. But I don't have it! If you refunded my money and the package eventually arrived, I would have paid you back. I am sick of your excuses and accusations and want nothing to do with you anymore. I can wait 6 weeks for your package but you can't wait even a day for my money?
You kept telling me that you will get "something" to me no matter what, and I am sure that "something" would be a "registered rock in a box". Like I said, Paypal doesn't care what you get, as long as the tracking shows that it arrived. I didn't refuse to wait. It just never arrived. No one in their right mind would wait 3 months for it. And by this time I was already convinced that you were not that honest.
You are not some big company. I don't know you, you don't know me. Paypal was my only insurance. Thank god I didn't send the money as a gift (like you wanted) and I paid those stupid paypal fees for you too. I hope you get your item back. It started off as a simple purchase, and has turned into this. Buying from an internet forum was not as safe as I thought it would be. Just 6 weeks of stress, and nothing to gain. I will have to buy another SW NAMI v1 at another ripoff price because there is no way I can wait until April to give my wife her present. Believe me or not, but this is my side of it. I hope you finally understand. (you probably wont)[hide]
My New Blacklisted Buyer :
Pockypat
( I got the TRACKING NUMBER about the shipment but he's refused to wait and disptue me on paypal. The item is NAMI SW v.1 the previous price is 150 USD and now its already became 50 USD. I think he's try to find a reason and cant accept the fate that the price of the stuff was back to normal. I shipped with SAL registred btw.)
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Shipping by SAL REGISTRED is 3 weeks - 3 MONTHS untill we can sue the POSTOFFICE
Shipping by SAL UNREGISTRED is 3 weeks - 6 MONTHS untill we can sue the POSTOFFICE[/hide]
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tl;dr: Paid for item. Item never arrived. Got money back. Seller bitching on the internet on how he can't make a quick buck.He is probably a great seller, but I would never buy from him again.
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Funny how he already is selling the same exact item but for 5$ more. Wonder if that one was the one he "shipped" to me since he didn't have that item for sale for a while.
Retracted as I was wrong about this. It was a different item and I am sorry.edit 2: However, I now realize that he was trying to shove that Neo nami to me instead of what I wanted, because he said that he would give me a "similar" item but not my refund. The price was the same, that is why I got confused.
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This is a copy paste from my post on the Marketplace thread. I bought something from forum member sogek and it did not end well. I didn't want to make a big deal about this since I got my money back, but he decided to defame me. I think this belongs here instead.
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Funny how you make it seem like I am wrong when you only give your side of the story. Now I have to repeat myself to you all over again. You just don't seem to get it.I joined exclusively to buy a Christmas present for my wife since this was the only place in the world that had a SW Nami v1 at a decent price. I knew exactly what I was buying, I knew that it was used, and was satisfied with the price. You sold it to me for $170+$25 shipping+$5 paypal fee and told me that it would arrive in 1-3 weeks. I don't know where you keep getting these values of 150$ and 50$ but that is another story.
Nami was announced for a re-release around 2 weeks after I bought it, and I did not preorder, thinking that yours will come. 2 weeks passed from when you shipped, and I did not receive your package, so I asked you about it. You told me to wait. 3 weeks passed and no present for my wife. Ok, holiday rush, it might need more time. I told her better late than never, and had a really shitty Christmas.
I informed you that if it doesn't come soon I would have to file a dispute with paypal because they only give you 45 days to do something about it. You agreed to this. Almost 6 weeks passed and it still did not arrive so I file for dispute. It does not take this long for SAL to get to USA. I even had SAL packages ordered later that arrived already. You gave me all this BS on how the package is already in the USA, but when I went to check at my post office and called USPS international dept, they said that the package never left Indonesia. (Infact it is still there as of today.) The package was obviously mishandled, and this is the seller's responsibilty not the buyer's. So I ask you for a refund, and tell you to get your package back since it is still in Indonesia. I even offered to pay 30$ for the shipping cost since I didn't know if you could get that back or not. You refused to even listen to me and kept stalling (Telling me that you would check at your post office but not actually going. I know this because you kept saying that you would "go today" and I would receive the same exact message the next day.) until the dispute was going to expire. I was tired of your BS, so I escalate to a claim and got my money back.
I am sure you refused to give a refund because you knew that you would never sell it again at that price. You are so paranoid and only concerned about making money. I just wanted my Nami. If the package arrived, I would have nothing to complain about, and no reason to file a dispute. If I really wanted to do what you accused me of doing, I would have disputed right when the re-release was announced and not wait for 6 weeks. (think about it) Paypal doesn't handle disputes about item quality outside of ebay. They only care if it arrived or not. There is really nothing I can do if I get the package, I am stuck with it. But I don't have it! If you refunded my money and the package eventually arrived, I would have paid you back. I am sick of your excuses and accusations and want nothing to do with you anymore. I can wait 6 weeks for your package but you can't wait even a day for my money?
You kept telling me that you will get "something" to me no matter what, and I am sure that "something" would be a "registered rock in a box". Like I said, Paypal doesn't care what you get, as long as the tracking shows that it arrived. I didn't refuse to wait. It just never arrived. No one in their right mind would wait 3 months for it. And by this time I was already convinced that you were not that honest.
You are not some big company. I don't know you, you don't know me. Paypal was my only insurance. Thank god I didn't send the money as a gift (like you wanted) and I paid those stupid paypal fees for you too. I hope you get your item back. It started off as a simple purchase, and has turned into this. Buying from an internet forum was not as safe as I thought it would be. Just 6 weeks of stress, and nothing to gain. I will have to buy another SW NAMI v1 at another ripoff price because there is no way I can wait until April to give my wife her present. Believe me or not, but this is my side of it. I hope you finally understand. (you probably wont)[/hide]
tl;dr: Paid for item. Item never arrived. Got money back. Seller bitching on the internet on how he can't make a quick buck.He is probably a great seller, but I would never buy from him again.
edit: Funny how he already is selling the same exact item but for 5$ more. Wonder if that one was the one he "shipped" to me since he didn't have that item for sale for a while.
Good you got your money back Pockypat. Based on your story, looks like you did your part as a buyer. No one is gonna fault you for that. I just hope that you do not look at all members here trying to sell their extras in the same manner. Not everyone here conducts business in the same way as you experienced. In fact, I have had nothing but great transactions here. PM me if you are still looking for a SW Nami V1. I live in the USA as well. Just dont label everyone here in the marketplace based on one bad experience. It should be more than enough that you posted your side of the story. There are a lot of great members here who are fair and easy to deal with.
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Good you got your money back Pockypat. Based on your story, looks like you did your part as a buyer. No one is gonna fault you for that. I just hope that you do not look at all members here trying to sell their extras in the same manner. Not everyone here conducts business in the same way as you experienced. In fact, I have had nothing but great transactions here. PM me if you are still looking for a SW Nami V1. I live in the USA as well. Just dont label everyone here in the marketplace based on one bad experience. It should be more than enough that you posted your side of the story. There are a lot of great members here who are fair and easy to deal with.
Agreed, besides one problem with a certain person (who's on the blacklist now and also cheated many other people) my transactions have all been very smooth on these forums. There are some people who really do try to make money by overcharging for rarer things, not gonna point fingers, but I just don't buy from them lol. :/ Sorry for what you went through, Pockypat - I know it's horrible to wait in uncertainty for packages. Hope you find what you're looking for soon.
~ ASCE ~ace squid crew extraordinaire
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I personally think he's a great seller. It's unfortunate that you had a bad experience with him. Anyways, he's not selling Nami SW but the original NEO so you think you should remove the comment about him selling the exact same item.
This is a copy paste from my post on the Marketplace thread. I bought something from forum member sogek and it did not end well. I didn't want to make a big deal about this since I got my money back, but he decided to defame me. I think this belongs here instead.
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Funny how you make it seem like I am wrong when you only give your side of the story. Now I have to repeat myself to you all over again. You just don't seem to get it.I joined exclusively to buy a Christmas present for my wife since this was the only place in the world that had a SW Nami v1 at a decent price. I knew exactly what I was buying, I knew that it was used, and was satisfied with the price. You sold it to me for $170+$25 shipping+$5 paypal fee and told me that it would arrive in 1-3 weeks. I don't know where you keep getting these values of 150$ and 50$ but that is another story.
Nami was announced for a re-release around 2 weeks after I bought it, and I did not preorder, thinking that yours will come. 2 weeks passed from when you shipped, and I did not receive your package, so I asked you about it. You told me to wait. 3 weeks passed and no present for my wife. Ok, holiday rush, it might need more time. I told her better late than never, and had a really shitty Christmas.
I informed you that if it doesn't come soon I would have to file a dispute with paypal because they only give you 45 days to do something about it. You agreed to this. Almost 6 weeks passed and it still did not arrive so I file for dispute. It does not take this long for SAL to get to USA. I even had SAL packages ordered later that arrived already. You gave me all this BS on how the package is already in the USA, but when I went to check at my post office and called USPS international dept, they said that the package never left Indonesia. (Infact it is still there as of today.) The package was obviously mishandled, and this is the seller's responsibilty not the buyer's. So I ask you for a refund, and tell you to get your package back since it is still in Indonesia. I even offered to pay 30$ for the shipping cost since I didn't know if you could get that back or not. You refused to even listen to me and kept stalling (Telling me that you would check at your post office but not actually going. I know this because you kept saying that you would "go today" and I would receive the same exact message the next day.) until the dispute was going to expire. I was tired of your BS, so I escalate to a claim and got my money back.
I am sure you refused to give a refund because you knew that you would never sell it again at that price. You are so paranoid and only concerned about making money. I just wanted my Nami. If the package arrived, I would have nothing to complain about, and no reason to file a dispute. If I really wanted to do what you accused me of doing, I would have disputed right when the re-release was announced and not wait for 6 weeks. (think about it) Paypal doesn't handle disputes about item quality outside of ebay. They only care if it arrived or not. There is really nothing I can do if I get the package, I am stuck with it. But I don't have it! If you refunded my money and the package eventually arrived, I would have paid you back. I am sick of your excuses and accusations and want nothing to do with you anymore. I can wait 6 weeks for your package but you can't wait even a day for my money?
You kept telling me that you will get "something" to me no matter what, and I am sure that "something" would be a "registered rock in a box". Like I said, Paypal doesn't care what you get, as long as the tracking shows that it arrived. I didn't refuse to wait. It just never arrived. No one in their right mind would wait 3 months for it. And by this time I was already convinced that you were not that honest.
You are not some big company. I don't know you, you don't know me. Paypal was my only insurance. Thank god I didn't send the money as a gift (like you wanted) and I paid those stupid paypal fees for you too. I hope you get your item back. It started off as a simple purchase, and has turned into this. Buying from an internet forum was not as safe as I thought it would be. Just 6 weeks of stress, and nothing to gain. I will have to buy another SW NAMI v1 at another ripoff price because there is no way I can wait until April to give my wife her present. Believe me or not, but this is my side of it. I hope you finally understand. (you probably wont)[/hide]
tl;dr: Paid for item. Item never arrived. Got money back. Seller bitching on the internet on how he can't make a quick buck.He is probably a great seller, but I would never buy from him again.
edit: Funny how he already is selling the same exact item but for 5$ more. Wonder if that one was the one he "shipped" to me since he didn't have that item for sale for a while.
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Fixed. He needs all the help he can get I suppose.
He still doesn't understand and thinks that it is my fault (as seen by his new sig, personally blacklisting me). I already explained to him through PMs, Paypal dispute process, and my last post, but nothing is getting through. I am done. I don't care anymore since I will never buy from him again. I am really getting worked up over nothing, but I really hate it when people spread lies about me. Just a word of caution if you do decide to deal with him. This is what will happen to you if you buy from sogek and he doesn't get what he wants. ($$$)
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I personally think he's a great seller. It's unfortunate that you had a bad experience with him. Anyways, he's not selling Nami SW but the original NEO so you think you should remove the comment about him selling the exact same item.
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I have a lot of trouble believing sogek did something wrong. He's a very reputable seller that sells very often while you're a new ish member saying all of these things about him.
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I have a lot of trouble believing sogek did something wrong. He's a very reputable seller that sells very often while you're a new ish member saying all of these things about him.
I'm thinking you misinterpreted something.It only takes one bad experience to ruin a reputation.
I thought he was a reputable seller but he has shown me otherwise. Maybe you need to re-read my first post. I don't think a good seller acts like that. I really tried my best to work with him. He made it very clear that he would not work with me.
I wouldn't have said a word if he didn't do this to me. No one would be the wiser and he could keep being a "reputable" seller without any suspicion. Vouch for him if you want. It is just a case my word against his.Yes I am new. So I guess that automatically means that you shouldn't believe me. Like I said, believe what you want. I just wanted to share my experience with what seems like a nice community.
Does he deserve a second chance? Perhaps, but not from me.
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Like I said, believe what you want. I just wanted to share my experience with what seems like a nice community
Which is a very good thing to do. Thank you.
Of course even very good sellers that never tried anything funny in the past can suddenly screw up, we already saw that happening.
But with things as they are right now it's your post against theirs, and we, being outsiders to the whole thing, simply don't know who's lying.
The way you told your part definitely added some credibility since you sounded very reasonable, but I won't go ahead and take a side or anything.
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Which is a very good thing to do. Thank you.
Of course even very good sellers that never tried anything funny in the past can suddenly screw up, we already saw that happening.
But with things as they are right now it's your post against theirs, and we, being outsiders to the whole thing, simply don't know who's lying.
The way you told your part definitely added some credibility since you sounded very reasonable, but I won't go ahead and take a side or anything.
Still your post wasn't in vain. People will be more cautious now, and that's a very good thing.This especially. The previous fiasco I mentioned involved a seller with whom many, including me, had had successful transactions with before she went and tried to run off with hundreds of dollars. There's always a first, I guess. Thanks for trying to alert the community.
~ ASCE ~ace squid crew extraordinaire
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@Nia:
But with things as they are right now it's your post against theirs, and we, being outsiders to the whole thing, simply don't know who's lying.
I think most people would respond and give their side of the story, especially if their reputation was on the line. Notice how he is being extremely quiet on this whole subject, and I am fairly certain that he is reading my posts.
There never really was his side of the story. His one post about me was nothing more than an accusation based on pure speculation. Getting the package to the buyer is really the seller's responsibility. His "god almighty I wash my hands clean because I shipped registered SAL" tracking number still says that it is in his country. He told me on 3 separate occasions that his post office said that the package is already in the US and told me to wait for it. My post office still says that it is not. Who should I believe? Obviously the one that I could verify myself. Would you honestly wait up to 3 months because someone said it will come or would you try to do something about it?
He could have posted his concerns in this thread, but he instead decides to just plain out lie about it in his sales post and signature (this is the thing that is making me so upset).
I understand that there is no way to make myself seem 100% credible. I can provide PMs, paypal dispute logs, emails, but then people would say that I could have doctored them up anyway. But a little logic goes a long way..
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Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm believing you more in this for a few reasons, I just don't intend to believe either side 100%.
I understand that this must bug you to no end, I'd be furious if it was me.
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Update on my situation if anyone is still interested.
Thanks to the help of a forum member, I am now in the process of buying what I wanted from a listed trustworthy seller.
If you add the item and shipping (EMS because I don't want to deal with anymore BS) with the money I was willing to compensate sogek, it totals up to the same amount as my disputed deal with him.
Ok. not exactly the same amount. It was a little less. $.01 to be exact. Why the hell would I go through so much trouble to save a penny?
I am relieved that this part is now done.Now to get him to stop badmouthing me.
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I wouldn't say hes badmouthing you anymore than you are badmouthing him. If he wants to let everyone know hes not selling to you again thats entirely up to him, just how its entirely up to you if you don't want to buy from him again. You've both let people know about it, now maybe time to move on?
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I wouldn't say hes badmouthing you anymore than you are badmouthing him. If he wants to let everyone know hes not selling to you again thats entirely up to him, just how its entirely up to you if you don't want to buy from him again. You've both let people know about it, now maybe time to move on?
Actually, you don't quite understand the situation. It is not as simple as "he said this, he said that, now finished". This thread is "where not to buy merch". I never said don't buy from him. His reputation here really cant be ruined by my whining as seen by some comments already. If other people buy from him, there is a chance that they might go through the same thing that I did. This affects other people. That is why I am letting others know by telling my side of the story. Is that wrong? If you feel that you want to go through all this with him, then by all means, please go ahead.
The difference is that he is not just saying that he will not sell to me again. It is not just me vs. him. His simple lie is indirectly telling everyone to not believe me ever again, and that is important to a new guy like me with no rep. Ok we had a dispute over a deal and it ended badly. So what? Isn't it he who should have moved on in the first place and not start this BS? Does he have to let the whole world know about it this way and essentially ruin an innocent person? (don't believe me if you don't want to, already discussed this to death.) I wasn't going to say a word. Perhaps he never thought that I would ever reply. He just based everything on nothing but his own paranoid, money making thoughts. The shit hit the fan now, and he is free to give his side of the story, but decides to just hide behind his irresponsible lies. (still don't understand? reread my posts.)
What if I decided that I wanted to buy from the marketplace again? No one would even consider me as a customer because one person keeps saying that I "ripped him off". Yea it is childish to keep pursuing it. But wouldn't anyone do the same if their reputaion was on the line? What if I told every one that I saw you licking a donkey and that you enjoyed the company of donkeys. As ridiculous as it sounds, don't you feel the need to tell people that it isn't true? Or would you rather be known as the donkey licker? I don't think anyone would understand truly until they are in my situation. It is extremely frustrating. And like I said before, I will stop when he does, but apparently he will not. So what am I to do? Just move on? How many people can honestly do that? Can you do that donkey licker? (No I am not really calling you a donkey licker, it is just an example.) If you are tired of hearing me whine, (many of you are) you could maybe, just skip over it? I don't think there is a defamation thread here. Nobody would probably care to read it anyway. But my situation still pertains to the buying of merchandise, that is why I am here.
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Can anyone tell me if there is something good I can get for 5-10€ ? Wish I could find some small 50mm figurines xD
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I have a suggestion for this thread. Don't know if this has been done before, but is it possible to update the 2nd post or even make a new thread with a list of trustworthy forum sellers? There really isn't a way to tell who is truly honest or not besides taking their word for it or reading every post about them. I know I took a leap of faith when I tried to buy something.
Everyone could list forum sellers with whom they had great transactions with, and if that person's name shows up a lot and everyone agrees, then they could be on the list. Having a lot of people vouch for some one says way more than personal guarantees of "no worries 200% money back". Have to make it hard to get up there somehow. People probably wouldn't second-guess anyone that is up there as of now, and being up there pretty much means that they have good business practices and nobody would have to worry.
This would be beneficial to both the buyers and sellers. Buyers wouldn't have to do a full background check on the listed seller and buy without worries. The listed seller would get a form of free advertisement, which they really deserve. Trying to get on the list would be incentive to sell more and do a better job.The marketplace could probably get busier because it would be easier to buy things. Check the marketplace thread post maintained by enel16, find what you want, verify the seller with the new list, then buy without worries. I don't know if he lists good sellers or just everyone, but another source of confirmation doesn't hurt.
This is probably a lot of work, and I don't know how to stop people from making dummy accounts to promote themselves, but hey, it is another thing that we can do to help the community, and it is just a thought.
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I'm one of the lucky ones in that I've never had problems buying from anyone on here. And I have bought quite a bit of things (sogek being one of them). Never had any problems.
Knock on wood, seeing as how I'm supposed to have another figure coming in the mail atm but it's been quite a while…
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Add Forum Name: Dragonxpiece
- Uses alternate accounts to pass himself off as a legitimate seller.
- Possible non-sender/scammer.
- Supposed bad history from another forum for same acts.
- Requesting that members help him mislead others for his own benefit in trades/sales.
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I have a suggestion for this thread. Don't know if this has been done before, but is it possible to update the 2nd post or even make a new thread with a list of trustworthy forum sellers?
yeahhh i've been trying to make this happen. really depends on mods giving collectibles our own section.
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Add Forum Name: Dragonxpiece
- Uses alternate accounts to pass himself off as a legitimate seller.
- Possible non-sender/scammer.
- Supposed bad history from another forum for same acts.
- Requesting that members help him mislead others for his own benefit in trades/sales.
i wouldnt buy from that guy@Elisabeth:
You created a fake account for that member, OPassion, and made it look like "she" bought from you.
You lied to numerous members to force a sale on them or others.
There's nothing more to say.Disappear Dragonxpiece. We don't want you here.
[01:48] <dragonxpiece>monkey tell inishi that robin wcf goes for 3-4 k
[01:48] <dragonxpiece>please
[01:50] <monkey-d-droopy>lol dude
[01:51] <dragonxpiece>im trying him to trade
[01:51] <dragonxpiece>my perona wcf
[01:51] <dragonxpiece>for his lucci and admiral
[01:51] <dragonxpiece>pop
[01:51] <dragonxpiece>LMAO
[01:51] <dragonxpiece>is an even trade
[02:30] <dragonxpiece>tell inishi
[02:30] <dragonxpiece>that u think is a good deal please
[02:30] <dragonxpiece>for himWell, ever since you PMed me I had that kinda feeling of your appearance being strange. And by strange I mean I'd rather have unsecured sex with the male star of jersey shore than making a deal with you.
You also pasted me some Chatlogs between you and Xajen and put them in a wrong context to make the deal look suitable for me.
Why all this effort to convince me of trading with you? I don't get it. Everything about you is strange and I think you deserve a redflag or ban.
If anyone is wondering: I was about trading my MISB (JP) Aokiji, Lucci and non MISB Robin SW with him. His offer was WCF Perona, Ghost, Robin, Bonney and Capone. I'm still not sure about the value of the Pops, but still I think the WCf are worth more. Dragon asked me to send my stuff first. When I rejected that thing, he suggested we both should take a video of how we go to the post office and hand over the package to the postman.
I think you were trying to scam me and leave this forums. Even tho you said you were gonna send the stuff first and PMed me about it. Even tho I agreed about you sending it first, you didn't and thought of another excuse.
Also, the IP is prove enough. Why aren't u mentioning anything about the ip, dragon?
You asked other people to lie to me. I don't think you'll find anyone spending trust on your words.</dragonxpiece></dragonxpiece></dragonxpiece></dragonxpiece></dragonxpiece></dragonxpiece></dragonxpiece></dragonxpiece></dragonxpiece></monkey-d-droopy></dragonxpiece></dragonxpiece>
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Be careful with that Dragonxpiece user.
He have done the same bullshit of create two accounts with the same IP. He did that on the saintsieyagalley.com forum.
The second account he had in that forum was the one of a "hot chick" who "like" the saint seiya myth cloth figures. The "hot chick" posted video reviews of the myth cloth figures but the figures that "she" showed was exactly the same that the user "dragonxpiece" (usermname: mystik, in that forum) had on his own collection which he showed in the forum.
When the forum admin notice that there was two users with the same IP and give advice of that in the forum, the "hot chick" suddenly disappear and like in this forum the user dragonxpiece denied all and he argue that the "hot chick" who appear on the videos was friend of he or he said that he doesent know her, i cant remember exactly what does he said but it was something like that.
Redon is also a user in that forum, maybe he can say something about it.
Sorry for my english.**
LoL…
now i know why DragonXPiece is giving me some way too generous offers to trade for my POPs..
like 10 POPs notables were Kuma, vivi, Carue for WCF SW Vol. 1-6, plus WCF 2, 4, 7, 8 and DWC Vol 1,2 and 3
it was a good try though..
tsk. tsk. tsk...ORIGINAL SOURCE: http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t=30666&page=394
Visit my SALES PAGE @: http://apforums.net/showpost.php?p=2…&postcount=357 My APForums Good BUYERS/SELLERS/TRADERS' LIST: http://apforums.net/showpost.php?p=1...&postcount=986
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ORIGINAL SOURCE: http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t=30666&page=394
bla bla, im no scammer , it was a midsunderstanding but nothing like the want to seem it look like.
anyways, here is my latest sale.
proof of shipping.
that was for WCF vol 1, which i sold to kurniled
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A successful sale doesn't change the fact that you lied to some of us, used our names in lies, and asked that some of us lie to others to help you in making sales.
Scamming doesn't matter next to deception in a community that helps and looks out for each other. -
A successful sale doesn't change the fact that you lied to some of us, used our names in lies, and asked that some of us lie to others to help you in making sales.
Scamming doesn't matter next to deception in a community that helps and looks out for each other.I didnt scam anyone that the point. the deal i had with him was very well worthy for both of us. he was aware of what he was receiving and what i was giving.
I didnt know you werent aware of the updated version (me adding Ghost to the deal) but i thought that you were aware of the deal overall because you wrote me back about it that you wouldnt trade for those POP, that they ddint cost that much and that they werent that good at all, I told you what i was giving and you told me was a good trade, like i said was a misunderstanding and I pasted what you wrote me, yes i guess it was my mistake because didnt realize that you didnt read my message about the updated trade. however at ALL times i had the intentions to fullfill it and send my stuff, so perhaps you want to remove the "
possible not sender" you wrote.Also, I told Droopy to say that to him because it was a good deal but i needed someone to make him aware of that, you guys took it in the wrong sense like it was me trying to make droopy lie to him, when what i was trying was droopy to let him know it was good , he would have not gotten involved on his own, so that why i asked so he could get involved and make him aware.
Yes I lied in self defense because you guys didnt waited for my explanation, instead you and other jumped in to conclusions that i was trying to steal from people when i was NOT.
that is the truth.
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I didnt scam anyone that the point. the deal i had with him was very well worthy for both of us. he was aware of what he was receiving and what i was giving.
Yes I lied in self defense because you guys didnt waited for my explanation, instead you and other jumped in to conclusions that i was trying to steal from people when i was NOT.
that is the truth.
Oh yeah, the log files of all your lies are totally jumping to conclusions. Because computers enjoy altering chat logs and trolling people, right?
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Has anyone every ordered from Japtou before? Planning on ordering over $500 soon and would appreciate not getting scammed. Thanks.
