You are a
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You are best described as a:
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You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.
You are a
Social Liberal
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and an…
Economic Liberal
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You are best described as a:
Socialist
You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.
It's really funny finding websites supporting seemingly ridiculous ideas and then realizing they are being satirical. Anbd then I eventually found this video:
It's truely making fun of the ban of gay marriageidk the whole website is still very confusong though
Anyone else here interested in Tony Blairs new book?
No.
He'll probably gloss over the infighting within the cabinet which is all I care about and all that isn't 100% known.
Tony Blair has become irrelevant since his bid for the European presidency failed. What with his special mission in the middle east?
I was thinking about getting Mandelson's book to see if Blair and Brown really did have the little catfights their colleagues hint they did. But then I remembered Mandelson wrote it.
Tony Blair has become irrelevant since his bid for the European presidency failed. What with his special mission in the middle east?
The hilarious thing is that the only reason he failed is because no-one wanted a powerful European president.
His views on turkey's entry probably didn't help either.
The books focused more towards larger scale politics instead of the small run of the mill shit in chequers. Which kind of implied its about bush, europe and the UN throughout his term a PM.
Side note: half way through the film 'W' and surprisingly enough its really good. Its a shame collin powell never ran for presidency.
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this one
" It should be legal for two consenting adults to challenge each other to a duel and fight a Death Match. "
this was an awsome question, but after thinking about it, i had to disagree
@Zender:
The books focused more towards larger scale politics instead of the small run of the mill shit in chequers. Which kind of implied its about bush, europe and the UN throughout his term a PM.
Seems like all people are talking about now with regards to his book is domestic politics.
Amusing to see the number of hypocrites trying to put the knife in. Hilarious to see "lord" prescott of nolongerasocialist defending Gordon Brown.
All the labour leadership candidates tried to disown Blair on channel four last night, even though apart from abbott they all owe their careers to him. And they had no idea what to do about the deficit, the only thing they parroted was that the tories were apparently cutting too much.
I now have no intention of voting labour under any of those hacks.
I just got Blairs book and have to say i'm already rather intrigued at only 10 pages in.
Its probably just my interest in his reactions to the many obscure parts of his career:
I'll update you when it's finished.
I've always been interested in how much of the work behind the good friday agreement was done by major, and how much was done by Blair. Would like to know how Blair assigns the credit for that.
Politics suck….nuff said
Thank you for your erudite opinion.
I took the quiz, more to see the questions that anything. It seems to me it would be extremely difficult to write an truly accurate set of questions–there are just so many factors to weigh in attempting it. So much emotion and personal experience and even indoctrination goes into our views--In the long run, categorizing people politically may be impossible, really.
As many here have pointed out, many of the questions are multi-layered in what to consider when deciding to be in support of them or not, yet the answers are, perforce, simplistic.
@Sea:
Same here.
Those questions worth discussing:"The government should subsidize struggling museums, theaters, and artists."
"People shouldn't be allowed to have children they can't provide for."
"People raising children have a responsibility to live up to society's standards."
"Since parents can't be trusted to monitor what their children watch, TV content needs to be more regulated."
Yes, those questions seemed a bit heavy handed to me, really. I think the parenting questions get particularly tricky, since it's such a slippery slope.
I didn't like this question at all. Why is preserving history mixed with safeguarding entertainment jobs? I know a segment of culture comes into play with the theatre, but still.
well, given that art in all it's forms is, at it's best, often meant to push the envelope, and I have seen many a social commentary appear in off-Broadway venues, I'd have to argue that supporting theater is important. I think they are meaning independant, small-ish productions that might struggle to survive otherwise–in both the cinema and live theater. I would hope that is the case, anyway--I can't imagine anyone thinking public funds need to support the block-buster money making movies Hollywood churns out.
War and religion are responsible for any regression in science and civilization, probably from the very beginning.
You forgot economics. Yes, I said it.
I'm surprised as how many Social/Economic liberals are coming out as Democrat from this website Sea linked. Call me funky, but I always imagined that Democrats were majority Conservative, and only notable for the liberal element because the GOP has none whatsoever.
@DarkLordZenigame: MSNBC is just as biased as Fox News, honestly.
MSNBC is biased, yes, and is not a good resource for news at all. But to say it's as biased as Murdoch's propaganda machine is a stretch too far. It has its pundits and its selective practices, but the antics of Breitbart, Coulter, Fox's photoshop team, loosely-clothed reporters, logic and debate-blocking walls, and the company's use of outright lies manages to blow both CNN and MSNBC out of the water from the sheer scale of manipulation and misinformative pandering.
I'm not sure I want to take a test with 'Socialist' slapped right by Obama's portrait.
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I've always been interested in how much of the work behind the good friday agreement was done by major, and how much was done by Blair. Would like to know how Blair assigns the credit for that.
He credits JM right off the mark, but claims his downfall was 90% down to his fellow colleagues continuously screwing up, which totally negated any possibility of the puplic taking him seriously. He then compares both labour eras and concludes his inner circle in downing street were the backbone of both his campaign, credibility and integrity throughout that gave him the unprecedented three terms in office. Something JM never had.
I have a feeling this could turn out to be quite the read for your average polinerd.
Hmm only seen highlights of Tony Blair's book in the paper and internet yet it still looked interesting as it talked about a few issues you would'nt really expect.(Although I have already seen some criticisms of the book basicially saying he's talking crap throughout it)
It's no surprise at all to hear he tries to shift the blame on the downfall of Labour on Brown and co. though. Both sides have been playing that game for ages.
He's scheduled to appear on 'the late late show' in Ireland tomorrow night I think, talking about and promoting the book. For those who don't know it is a talk/interview TV show. Might be interesting to hear what he has to say on it. Though quite possibly not due to the weak host of the show. Hopefully it's good.
I got it for £15, and that was half price! sheesh.
I can't wait to hear Blair trash Brown & Prescot. And damn right too as they were and still are utterly useless cunts.
Brown knew he wasn't capable of running the country but carried on just to line his pockets and add to his inflated ego. Damn do I loath his existence….
Prescot served as a good mascot, but every now and again got the impression that it would be wise to speak. lol
Thank you for your erudite opinion.
Your welcome
But in all seriousness I'm an independent
Seems like all people are talking about now with regards to his book is domestic politics.
Amusing to see the number of hypocrites trying to put the knife in. Hilarious to see "lord" prescott of nolongerasocialist defending Gordon Brown.
All the labour leadership candidates tried to disown Blair on channel four last night, even though apart from abbott they all owe their careers to him. And they had no idea what to do about the deficit, the only thing they parroted was that the tories were apparently cutting too much.
I now have no intention of voting labour under any of those hacks.
That's why the left parties all over Europe are losing.
No leadership, no vision, just boring we're-against-the-right speeches.
@Zender:
He credits JM right off the mark, but claims his downfall was 90% down to his fellow colleagues continuously screwing up, which totally negated any possibility of the puplic taking him seriously. He then compares both labour eras and concludes his inner circle in downing street were the backbone of both his campaign, credibility and integrity throughout that gave him the unprecedented three terms in office. Something JM never had.
Good to hear, thanks.
Hmm only seen highlights of Tony Blair's book in the paper and internet yet it still looked interesting as it talked about a few issues you would'nt really expect.(Although I have already seen some criticisms of the book basicially saying he's talking crap throughout it)
It's no surprise at all to hear he tries to shift the blame on the downfall of Labour on Brown and co. though. Both sides have been playing that game for ages.
It was absolutely down to brown. Blair would have won a fourth term, even with all the garbage policies he was pushing through(though browns were even worse).
Brown was a backstabbing buffoon who put himself above his party and his party above his country.
The worst kind of self serving trash, and the worst PM we've had since Eden.
That's why the left parties all over Europe are losing.
No leadership, no vision, just boring we're-against-the-right speeches.
Yes. I am naturally left wing, but I had to vote tory in the last election because labour were so reprehensible. Attacking the opposition does not a policy platform make.
They need someone with a bit of snap, but the only people like that are on the periphery of the party(ken livingstone) or don't want to stand(alan johnson).
Formations in both The Netherlands and Belgium failed….
Formations in both The Netherlands and Belgium failed….
Wow it hitted the news at the same time.
I didn't really understand the dutch formation, if the pvv is supporting why doesn't it enter the governement.
And the Belgian situation is …well complicated. I really thought the Nva and Ps were capable of reforming the state. Now I really don't know how this is gonaa get solved. That's when I love politics, when it gets unpredictable.
Ken Livingston was probably one of the most corrupt mayors to roam the streets of London. Its a miracle he's not in prison.
I'm a fan of Boris btw. I just can't help but laugh at his antics, of which their are many.
He's a labour heavyweight that will actually get things done though.
the current leadership contest is just full of sycophants and hangers on.
I didn't really understand the dutch formation, if the pvv is supporting why doesn't it enter the governement.
Because if Wilders actually forms a coalition he can't bitch and moan about how terrible the country has become thanks to muslim terrorism.
Also, he can now blame CDA and VVD for the fact that a coalition wasn't formed because it was them who took so long and he's the poor victim who at the end decided to be the big man and step out of a doomed government. And the fact that he doesn't participate in a doomed government means he will only rise in popularity. He's already the biggest party by far in the polls. This will only increase with time, as there's still not a new government and the government that will be formed will undoubtedly fail.
Guy is smart. I wouldn't be suprised if he actually does end up being prime minister and making us the enemy of the entire EU, UN and what have you.
And then I will finally migrate to another country, because of the stupid, pissy, whiny, discriminating twats I live with, who just can't grasp the fact that we live in a pretty okay country and there's really no reason to cry about everything.
I don't think it's entirely his idea to stay out of the governement, wasn't CDA against working with him?
I think if the CDA and VVD forced Wilders to be part of the coalition, he couldn't refuse. (Because then if he refuses, the other parties can say; see he gets all these votes but doesn't want to do anything with them)
But for that to happen the CDA needs to man up.
As much as I like Cohen, the other option VVD PVDA groenlinks d66, will only reinforce the PVV and frankly the dutch have voted clearly to the right this time.
So what are the options now??
I knew he was'nt popular but did'nt expect this.
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I don't think it's entirely his idea to stay out of the governement, wasn't CDA against working with him?
I think if the CDA and VVD forced Wilders to be part of the coalition, he couldn't refuse. (Because then if he refuses, the other parties can say; see he gets all these votes but doesn't want to do anything with them)
But for that to happen the CDA needs to man up.As much as I like Cohen, the other option VVD PVDA groenlinks d66, will only reinforce the PVV and frankly the dutch have voted clearly to the right this time.
So what are the options now??
Either VVD + CDA + PvdA or VVD + PvdA + GroenLinks + D66 seems the most likely. Rutte is personally against VVD + PvdA + GroenLinks + D66, but I think that's the one that has the most chance of succes.
I'm still secretly hoping on PvdA + CDA + SP + GroenLinks + D66.
It was absolutely down to brown. Blair would have won a fourth term, even with all the garbage policies he was pushing through(though browns were even worse).
I think if Blair had stood a 4th term we'd have had the lowest electoral turnout ever. It'd just be, choose between our 3 plastic, manufactured PR candidates and watch as they dither about and achieve nothing worthwhile over a period of time (except for maybe invading a few places to remind people they're doing stuff). What? You want something that isn't samey, middle-ground deadends? …yeah...
@Zender:
Ken Livingston was probably one of the most corrupt mayors to roam the streets of London. Its a miracle he's not in prison.
I'm a fan of Boris btw. I just can't help but laugh at his antics, of which their are many.
Boris is brilliant, he's exactly what a mayor should be. Utterly useless at any heavyweight stuff but great for a laugh and you can tell his heart's round about the right place.
Did you see Boris clothesline that guy in the celebrity football game a while back? lolworthy indeed.
It sums him up perfectly .
Refresh my memory guys, did Boris win against Livingstone? Cause I thought Livingstone was a living legend or something.
Was it because Blair accepted him back in Labour, that he lost?
Ken lost because of some bad decisions, he hired some people on quite large salaries, hired someone who was accused of being crooked, made a Venezuelan oil deal which never happened and was derided anyway and invited a controversial muslim cleric to meet him.
It also didn't help that he seemed out of ideas by the end of his second term, the Evening standard ran a rather dirty campaign against him, and the fact that labour were doing so badly nationally.
And yes, Livingstone is pretty much legendary due to his time in the GLC in the eighties, and I wouldn't be surprised if he won the next mayoral election.
I think if Blair had stood a 4th term we'd have had the lowest electoral turnout ever. It'd just be, choose between our 3 plastic, manufactured PR candidates and watch as they dither about and achieve nothing worthwhile over a period of time (except for maybe invading a few places to remind people they're doing stuff). What? You want something that isn't samey, middle-ground deadends? …yeah...
I don't doubt that, but he would have won. Brown just damaged his party and the country more and more as he leapt from one disaster to another.
The greatest scandal is his PPP's which we'll still be paying for in 20 years time. The man is a disgrace.
Boris is brilliant, he's exactly what a mayor should be. Utterly useless at any heavyweight stuff but great for a laugh and you can tell his heart's round about the right place.
It's lower down he has trouble with.
The best thing was when he scared off some girls mugging someone and called them "oiks".
As I see it, a lot of Americans don't trust Fox News and CNN.
What is your opinion on BBC Darkstorm?
The Dutch fascist coalition is back on track.
And the formation of a VVD, PVV & CDA coalition has been resumed. Finally!
@Sea:
What is your opinion on BBC Darkstorm?
It's a very good news source and primarily the one I used. They got a bit hurt by the david kelly affair a few years ago(though it turned out they were in the right), and they have a bit of a left wing bias on some issues, but they give the most trustworthy news in the country.
Plus Rupert Murdoch hates them, which is always a good sign.
The 'beeb' is pretty much the mother of all public tv stations, all other countries are trailing behind.
You know that Aljazeera was pretty much the bbc opening an arabic channel. For whatever reason they aborted midway, and a rich emiratee took over the whole cast. I still am very gratefull for that, you can't imagine what Aljazeera meant to the Arab world.
And the formation of a VVD, PVV & CDA coalition has been resumed. Finally!
And this is a very bad thing.
@Sea:
As I see it, a lot of Americans don't trust Fox News and CNN.
CNN isn't so much untrustworthy as extremely dumbed down and inflicted with ADD. Dr. Sanjay Gupta has a program on it that isn't so bad though.
Fox…... Fox has to be seen to be believed.
MSNBC is usually cited as the bias left wing News source, I don't really know since I never watch them and my family just keeps CNN on otherwise. From what I've seen they just seem to have some obnoxious talking heads. Keith Olbermann is pretty insufferable. Kind of like the lefty Bill O'Reilley. But of course, no matter what conservatives would wish, there is no left wing equivalent of Fox on American TV.
@Tijnn.:
And this is a very bad thing.
Not for Rendabomb it's not. The day of his dreams is approaching, the day he can publicly bomb muslims with his "political incorrect" train of thoughts.
I just hope for you guys that Rutten is smart enough to handle this. In the same way Schussel did in Austria with Haider. But I kinda doubt it.
Rutte is probably the dumbest PM we're gonna have post-WW2, so yeah…
Seriously, Verhagen, Wilders and Rutte is quite possibly the worst trio of leading politicians this country will ever have.
so you guys do have a gouverment huh, great belgium , where makin a gouverment takes 2 years…
Don't worry, Belgium will stop existing soon enough. =P
so here in brazil in October
will have the election of
senator, governor, deputy:federal and state,and the president
but frankly,in the part of the presidency
we're headed for a Lula Part 2
Don't worry, Belgium will stop existing soon enough. =P
the flemish people are to stupid to make that happen, in the end we will always listen to them, i hope de wever can chance that.and else we will join holland:ninja:
So what's more likely.
Belgium remaining as one.
Flanders and Wallonia becoming new nations.
Flanders and Wallonia breaking apart and joining with France and Holland respectively.
The third option.