We know the Pacifistas are made of metal that is (according to Zoro) "harder than steel". We don't know anything about the magnetic properties of whatever metal it is, so we can't assume that Kidd could just levitate Franky and use him to knock over the rest of the crew.
Chapter 601: "Romance Dawn for the New World" Discussion
-
-
1. Nope still aren't even compared to the monster trio pre skip
2. What the hell are you talking about? Everyone in Luffy crew has a nick name. Plus three tongued means HE LIES A LOT BASICALLY.
Ussop vs Black best Liar???? Ussops job description - sniper/liar right?
-
Ussop vs Black best Liar???? Ussops job description - sniper/liar right?
Usopp's job description is-
"Amazing Sniper and great inventor as well as liar, shitty carpenter, painter, comic relief, and Perona killer."
-
so…if PX lasers are modeled after Kizaru's...then, wouldn't that make luffy faster than Kizaru...or? that would be a bit much. Faster than a bullet right up against his head, that was bad ass.
-
Whether or not Luffy is faster than the Pacifista's Kizaru-based lasers, I mean, even if they are based on the fastest man in the OP world, I'm pretty sure that it would be an entirely different story if Luffy took on Kizaru himself, lol..
-
so…if PX lasers are modeled after Kizaru's...then, wouldn't that make luffy faster than Kizaru...or? that would be a bit much. Faster than a bullet right up against his head, that was bad ass.
Knock offs are never as good as the original.
-
so…if PX lasers are modeled after Kizaru's...then, wouldn't that make luffy faster than Kizaru...or? that would be a bit much. Faster than a bullet right up against his head, that was bad ass.
No, it means that Luffy has great control of CoO, a.k.a. Mantra. He doesn't have to be faster than light, he just knew it was coming.
-
so…if PX lasers are modeled after Kizaru's...then, wouldn't that make luffy faster than Kizaru...or? that would be a bit much. Faster than a bullet right up against his head, that was bad ass.
I don't think it reflects the speed of the laser, but rather the preparation time for the attack.
-
I don't think it reflects the speed of the laser, but rather the preparation time for the attack.
Something that everyone needs to understand. Luffy had time to predict where the laser would be fired using CoO due to the PX taking time to lock on and reacting to it. Luffy taking on Kizaru would be a different matter. Luffy may be able to predict where the laser would fire, but can he react faster than the speed of light to avoid the attack from Kizaru? It could be like the time when Luffy faced Sandersonia after going Gear 2
-
Also, please don't forget that the speed of light Kizaru owns isn't the same as in real life, otherwise he would be invencible and impossible to see if wanted to.
-
I think its the opposite
Don't forget people can be far faster in this world, which makes LightSpeed not as impressive -
Also, please don't forget that the speed of light Kizaru owns isn't the same as in real life, otherwise he would be invencible and impossible to see if wanted to.
He is already close to invincible. You have to probably time your attack and predict, like with Rayleigh, before he completely phases into light. I think he does travel at the speed of light, he is a light logia after all. It would be impossible to discern his figure if he completely phased into light because you would only see something bright coming towards you.
-
Speed of light is faster by tons than Kuma or Luffy gear second speed, think about our speed of lights, is way too insane to even compare with how Kizaru seems to move at the manga… im not stating he doesnt because we didnt see enough or i dont remember, but i dont believe he can go all that speed up as he wants to.
-
Speed of light is faster by tons than Kuma or Luffy gear second speed, think about our speed of lights, is way too insane to even compare with how Kizaru seems to move at the manga… im not stating he doesnt because we didnt see enough or i dont remember, but i dont believe he can go all that speed up as he wants to.
I think he could probably go up to light speed if he wanted to when he is serious and we don't know the speed of Kuma's teleportation
-
i agree with fezzik that he probably could go up to light speed. the disadvantage of doing this would probably be that he can't control himself like he wants. he can prob just charge in one direction, as well as not being able to see what he is doing.thats why he makes that path skill, so he knows where hes going rite?
and…there is no indication in bounty. a guy absolutely worthless, but has a gun can go around killing anyone he wants. he will not be considered fodder, which he is but considered as a high threat.
-
Speed of light is faster by tons than Kuma or Luffy gear second speed, think about our speed of lights, is way too insane to even compare with how Kizaru seems to move at the manga… im not stating he doesnt because we didnt see enough or i dont remember, but i dont believe he can go all that speed up as he wants to.
Once again, what proof is there that Gear Second Luffy isn't jetting at 75% the Light Speed, for example?
And don't say stuff like "Because then Luffy would melt everything he went through", the physics of this world work differently, pretty much :P -
i agree with fezzik that he probably could go up to light speed. the disadvantage of doing this would probably be that he can't control himself like he wants. he can prob just charge in one direction, as well as not being able to see what he is doing.thats why he makes that path skill, so he knows where hes going rite?
and…there is no indication in bounty. a guy absolutely worthless, but has a gun can go around killing anyone he wants. he will not be considered fodder, which he is but considered as a high threat.
Yep, what is the point in introducing a light logia if the said person couldn't even travel at light speed. He would probably be like Kuro in his Shakushi mode, except like you wrote he would travel in a straight line destroying or rebounding off things in his path
-
Idk if someone wrote it before but did you realize that the admiral devil fruits opposite their personality kinda. Kizaru is kinda lazy, he has that lazy face but he's light and moves fast, Akainu is shi* cold still his power is magma and Aokiji (beside being lazy) is actualy the least merciless guy.
-
We have other 2 years of flash backs to add the regular flash backs we have to see in OP… :getlost: that tastes great :getlost:
-
Idk if someone wrote it before but did you realize that the admiral devil fruits opposite their personality kinda. Kizaru is kinda lazy, he has that lazy face but he's light and moves fast, Akainu is shi* cold still his power is magma and Aokiji (beside being lazy) is actualy the least merciless guy.
:getlost:
What a comparison… -
I know it, someone of th Straw Hats will die in the new world… :getlost:
-
Idk if someone wrote it before but did you realize that the admiral devil fruits opposite their personality kinda. Kizaru is kinda lazy, he has that lazy face but he's light and moves fast, Akainu is shi* cold still his power is magma and Aokiji (beside being lazy) is actualy the least merciless guy.
-
Not Bad not bad… Mr McDonald...:getlost:
-
@Mex:
We have other 2 years of flash backs to add the regular flash backs we have to see in OP… :getlost: that tastes great :getlost:
And what? Events will unfold by themselves as the story progresses i.e. Islands with Blackbeard's flag and marines mentioning that Blackbeard is a yonkou, means that blackbeard was out plundering amassing power in the two years. Some events will be self explanatory and if a flash back is needed for others then so be it, flashbacks are usually tastefully done in One Piece.
-
And what? Events will unfold by themselves as the story progresses i.e. Islands with Blackbeard's flag and marines mentioning that Blackbeard is a yonkou, means that blackbeard was out plundering amassing power in the two years. Some events will be self explanatory and if a flash back is needed for others then so be it, flashbacks are usually tastefully done in One Piece.
I know, I like OP flash backs too… I'm waiting for... :getlost:
-
-
What? A pat on the back
Guess he's being sarcastic , and yeah i think you are capable of realising that his english isn't good
-
I'm not sarcastic, I rly think other 2 year of flash backs r great… :getlost:
And y, I can't speak English as well as u but I can speak 5 lenguages so I don't mind... :getlost: -
Guess he's being sarcastic , and yeah i think you are capable of realising that his english isn't good
I don't have a problem with his english, it's fine.
-
@Mex:
I'm not sarcastic, I rly think other 2 year of flash backs r great… :getlost:
And y, I can't speak English as well as u but I can speak 5 lenguages so I don't mind... :getlost:You're not being sarcastic but you have the get lost smilie …. alright.
-
Ah… Ok ok sry about that... :getlost:
Baggy ll find his treasure for sure! He ll use the BB tecnique... He ll join the sevens and do it without problems... I hope :getlost: -
Idk if someone wrote it before but did you realize that the admiral devil fruits opposite their personality kinda. Kizaru is kinda lazy, he has that lazy face but he's light and moves fast, Akainu is shi* cold still his power is magma and Aokiji (beside being lazy) is actualy the least merciless guy.
What does ice have to do with being merciless?
-
@Mex:
Ah… Ok ok sry about that... :getlost:
Baggy ll find his treasure for sure! He ll use the BB tecnique... He ll join the sevens and do it without problems... I hope :getlost:Nice nice :getlost:
-
This post is deleted!
-
Edit: Derpity derp derp derp derp
-
Redspear, you are seriously the most obnoxious person I ever met in any forum
Stop that shitI removed the post. Sorry.
-
Redspear, you are seriously the most obnoxious person I ever met in any forum
Stop that shitWhat's wrong? Using the get lost smiley after every damn sentence is idiotic
-
What's wrong? Using the get lost smiley after every damn sentence is idiotic
Thank you sir…..:ninja:
-
What's wrong? Using the get lost smiley after every damn sentence is idiotic
I'm not defending Mex
-
I'm not defending Mex
Then what were you getting at? Redspear was just pointing out how absurd it is with the constant use of the get lost smiley.
-
I have the sneaking suspition that underneath those bandages, Abilon is hiding a set of gills and a sun tatoo, know what im saying?
-
u are all stupid. what the hell ar eu guys even arguing ABOUT? find smoething else more worthwhile to talk about in AP forums.
what i'm most interested about right now is robin and brook's development. we can't seem to comprehend robin's ability for some of us think that its already best used, and some ways of using her skill wud be completely overpowered. i personally think she will just gain the strength to create even more flowers, and to sustain them (like being able to giev her entire crew wings all at once). Brook on the other hand, is quite suggestive. I know he'll probably be able to able to cause explosions like the other guy, but i'm kinda hoping his power involves more in the psychological way, such as making ppl believe other things by affecting their senses
-
While I definitely agree with you that Jozu is an Admiral level fighter, I disagree with you that Jozu is stronger than Vista. Vista's feats in the war were more impressive and I believe him to be the stronger of the two. So I'm curious as to what makes you believe that Jozu is stronger of the two.
**It all comes to how Oda's presented Jaws so far vs how he's presented Vista. When Whitebeard was first introduced, Marco and Jaws were right there even though we didn't know who they were at the time. When Shanks boarded Whitebeard's ship, it was Jaws and Marco that were given the spotlight. When Sengoku was informed Whitebeard had made his move the three silhouettes shown were Whitebeard, Marco, and Jaws. Finally, during the start of the war Oda purposefully had Jaws and Marco stand out from the rest of the commanders.
So sure, just going by feats Vista is the superior fighter but we have to take into the author's intent as well. And it seems obvious to me that Oda has been trying to convey that Marco and Jaws are a cut above all other commanders.**
-
Once again, what proof is there that Gear Second Luffy isn't jetting at 75% the Light Speed, for example?
And don't say stuff like "Because then Luffy would melt everything he went through", the physics of this world work differently, pretty much :POkay, screw melting anything, anything as much as 50% of light speed and relativity would begin fucking with Luffy's perception of the universe and he would gain a god complex. Clearly, this is what happened to Enel. Also clearly, it happens to Kizaru to a lesser extent, which is why he can afford to act THAT bored :P
Note: I am only mostly joking. Not fully.
-
Okay, screw melting anything, anything as much as 50% of light speed and relativity would begin fucking with Luffy's perception of the universe and he would gain a god complex. Clearly, this is what happened to Enel. Also clearly, it happens to Kizaru to a lesser extent, which is why he can afford to act THAT bored :P
Note: I am only mostly joking. Not fully.
Moving at nearly any significany percentage of light speed would be too fast for human reactions in the short term, unless you're going to another planet.
-
Moving at nearly any significany percentage of light speed would be too fast for human reactions in the short term, unless you're going to another planet.
I hold by the thought that if Luffy ever had to factor the curvature of spacetime into a punch, he would gain a god complex.
-
I hold by the thought that if Luffy ever had to factor the curvature of spacetime into a punch, he would gain a god complex.
He wouldn't, unless he's trying to punch out another star system and needs to bend his fist around the sun.
-
LOL. Troll Wars 2: Electric Boogaloo
Nice to see that I am not the only one whose opinions aren't welcomed…
Well then:
1. Fluffy was weak. Very weak. His followers weren't captured in his charisma (like luffys ally) but because the brand he used.
2. The Two Brothers have a high bounty because they killed and murdered people. Kidd had a higher Bounty than Luffy (at that time his CV showed: Arlong, Croc, Enies Lobby, CP9). And the only explanation that was given regarding that matter was: He killed civilians.
3. Buggy has about the same Bounty as Fluffy because he kept himself low. I know that he's weak compared to Luffy but nevertheless I bet after the War his Bounty got a boost.And last but not least:
Fluffy knowing when to retreat shows his ability to think???
Yeah... like the Knight in The Holy Grail: "RUN AWAY. RUN AWAY".
And may I remind you: Luffy knew too when to escape. Happened once before: Against Kuma in Shabaondy. And even running away he said: We can't beat him YET. -
This post is deleted!