From episode 451 preview, the title is called "Create the Final Miracle - Break Through the Gate of Justice"
From the looks of it then, 2 episodes after that, if toei does do anything crazy, the arc should be finished.
From episode 451 preview, the title is called "Create the Final Miracle - Break Through the Gate of Justice"
From the looks of it then, 2 episodes after that, if toei does do anything crazy, the arc should be finished.
The preview showed Jimbei giving Luffy the telesnail, so this is definitely the last episode of Impel Down. 'sides, there's only one more chapter to cover.
Titles (rough translation):
451: Do your last miracle - Breaking through the gates of justice
452: Aiming to navy headquarters - The voyage to rescue Ace!
453: Weather science and gentlemen passion tea (provisional)
454: Sanji & Chopper episode (provisional)
Strawhat's filler!!!
That's good to know! Maybe Marineford will be getting better pacing!
Nope, it's exactly the same.
I'm so glad it's not one episode per a Strawhat.
Titles (rough translation):
451: Do your last miracle - Breaking through the gates of justice
452: Aiming to navy headquarters - The voyage to rescue Ace!
453: Weather science and gentlemen passion tea (provisional)
454: Sanji & Chopper episode (provisional)Strawhat's filler!!!
Yes more Strawhat stories!!!!
Two thumbs up Toei!!!!
Yeah, I know, I went to check it out before you told me, that's why I edited my post! LOL
What about the dates? Is there any breaks?!
Titles (rough translation):
451: Do your last miracle - Breaking through the gates of justice
452: Aiming to navy headquarters - The voyage to rescue Ace!
453: Weather science and gentlemen passion tea (provisional)
454: Sanji & Chopper episode (provisional)Strawhat's filler!!!
Finally they are out, took forever this time..
Well I thought we will probably have the continuation of the SH filler they left a lot of it unfinished but hey, if that means they can do Marineford justice (no pun intended) then I don't care about having filler right here
So they're going in the same order as before huh? I really hope Tate gets to do Robin's episode again, because I don't think anyone else would be able to replicate the somber moodiness of 420 as well as he could.
Looking forward to seeing Kawamura's versions of Sanji and Chopper.
They're still doing two Straw Hats an episode?!
Damnit Toei! Filler up their stories! Give yourself some buffer room so you don't have to keep up the 1:1 Chapter to Episode Ratio for The War!
Hopefully since the Marineford arc is over, the anime will have a quick pace since they know the entire story beginning to end. This could just be wishful thinking though.
Hopefully we get more scenes with
! the New World Captians that were given names like Whitey Bay, the Decalvan Brothers, Doma etc. As well more scenes to some of the off sceens fights. Since been getting for the last couples episodes with the Buggy and Mr.3 Adventures in going up to each level, and last episode Iva-san recovering from his fight against Megeallian.
My prediction for the next episodes
455 - Mugiwaras - Robin & Usopp (Naoki Tate)
456 - Mugiwarsa - Brook & Zoro
457 - Chapter 550
458 - Chapter 551
459 - Chapter 552
460 - Chapter 553 & Chapter 554
461 - Chapter 555 & Chapter 556 (Naoki Tate)
462 - Chapter 557 (New Opening)
463 - Chapter 558
464 - Chapter 559 & Chapter 560
465 - Chapter 561
466 - Chapter 562 (End of the Volume 57 - Around September, so Volume 59 would be on sale)
Tate works with 7-10 ep gap.
Yes, I Know, but this could be an exception! I'm almost sure that he's doing chapter 556! I'm not sure why, but I think it's because of the opening, where Luffy falls from the sky.. that was his work, right?
Anyway, if that's the case, I don't think that Tate is doing Usopp and Robin's episode!
They're still doing two Straw Hats an episode?!
Damnit Toei! Filler up their stories! Give yourself some buffer room so you don't have to keep up the 1:1 Chapter to Episode Ratio for The War!
But they'd have to do some major expanding… For example there's only one page left to animate of Sanji's coverstory.
Not really, the first page shows a sole okama pursuing him into some kind of mansion..
Except maybe for Chopper's, the cover stories all have fairly big gaps to be explored. But an entire episode for each Strawhat would have the potential to be a borefest.
@Sean:
Yes, I Know, but this could be an exception! I'm almost sure that he's doing chapter 556! I'm not sure why, but I think it's because of the opening, where Luffy falls from the sky.. that was his work, right?
Anyway, if that's the case, I don't think that Tate is doing Usopp and Robin's episode!
Beleive me if that was the case, then Tate would have done the action episodes of ID. Still, I might be wrong. Most of the time it's just too random.
Yeah, that was his work.
how are they going to touch base on things they don't know about?
Not really, the first page shows a sole okama pursuing him into some kind of mansion..
Okay, I got confused. Everything is cleared up now. I wasn't a manga reader until very recently. Back when the anime showed the "Straw Hat filler", I thought it was over the coverstories… But I just realized that wasn't true and those stories were actually adapted from very short stories in actual manga chapters.
Because of that I thought that the "mansion" was the building that Sanji entered looking for "Elizabeth". Now that I look closer they're very different, but seeing Sanji running from "Elizabeth" while in that building made my mind twist things up a bit.
Anyway, now I'm curious to see how they will be adapted.
exactly…they cant fabricate things for filler.
exactly…they cant fabricate things for filler.
If they do they run the risk of contradicting future cannon.
We still don't know how the crew will re-unite in the manga, I imagine Toei have to the play it quite safe.
What are they doing with these fillers? If they're not canon, then they're not going to make any sense when Oda reveals what the crew actually did on their separate adventures. And then if they are canon and Oda decided to tell Toei ahead of time what his plans were for the Strawhats, then these episodes are the most terribly written, poorly animated canon material I've ever seen.
Just what's the deal here?
They've probably gotten some sketchy details from Oda to flesh out the short stories for the first seperation series, and the two cover pages for the upcoming ones I'd imagine. But not enough that they can do a lot with it.
I did love the sanji one though.
Oh meh. Just get the Marineford thingy going already. I'm tired of fillers and dragging out episodes. I want Whitebeard epciness dammnit.
Oh meh. Just get the Marineford thingy going already. I'm tired of fillers and dragging out episodes. I want Whitebeard epciness dammnit.
You're not going to get any "epicness" without filler.
Oh meh. Just get the Marineford thingy going already. I'm tired of fillers and dragging out episodes. I want Whitebeard epciness dammnit.
If we're going to have to have "filler" this is the absolute best kind - Based off of canon, and actually has a chance of having some influence from Oda.
Fillers are necessary evils, but sometimes are actually worth it (G8 is probably the most well-written filler I have seen in a shonen anime adaptation).
Anyway, the first batch of Straw Hat fillers weren't bad, and I'm sure this new batch won't be either.
Fillers are necessary evils, but sometimes are actually worth it (G8 is probably the most well-written filler I have seen in a shonen anime adaptation).
Anyway, the first batch of Straw Hat fillers weren't bad, and I'm sure this new batch won't be either.
G8 not only was well-written, it was well animated! I Love watching those episodes!
I'm pretty sure that Toei is somewhat "in the know" with Oda for things that involve filler, especially canon-filler. I think that he has to approve a filler arc to make sure that Toei didnt come up with a DF or a villain that Oda might be thinking of using as cannon later on, I'm guessing they do the same thing with cannon filler so, if anything, they know what direction to point the individual storylines to and what to avoid using
I'm pretty sure that Toei is somewhat "in the know" with Oda for things that involve filler, especially canon-filler. […]so, if anything, they know what direction to point the individual storylines to and what to avoid using
"Hey guys, I can cut steel!"/ "3 rumble balls, dudez~"
@The:
"Hey guys, I can cut steel!"/ "3 rumble balls, dudez~"
So i'm assuming you're friends with Oda and can guarantee me that he always had in mind, since day one, that Zoro would learn to cut steel in Alabasta or what would happen with Chopper if he ate 3 Rumble Balls..
It's pretty obvious they they keep close contact with Oda, he's always mentioning the anime staff on his Jump corner. Heck, these own forums knew about the whole Duval incident before it happened due to an anime guy who talked too much.
Btw, i'm pretty sure that Oda himself said that every filler DF passes through him first. Not to mention that almost all major filler/movie villains are his creation.
Heck, Oda said that his editor even proof reads and checks the anime scripts, at least circa 2002.
I think it's pretty clear that Toei does have a better understanding of where the story's heading then we do, and generally know what they're doing when it comes to adding in stuff that wasn't shown in the manga. If you watch the anime starting from Sabaody onward, you'll notice that they start taking a fair amount of liberties with the material and I think the result is a pretty enjoyable viewing experience. You've got humorous stuff like Franky pimping Duval's ride, Hancock's daydreams, early cameos like Jimbei, Akainu, and Shiryuu appearing before they did in the manga, and some more serious stuff like Law and Kid's fight with the Pacifista and expanding on Luffy's departure from Amazon Lily (which is probably going to compound the really shitty mood of what's happening now in mangaland when they get to it).
So i'm assuming you're friends with Oda and can guarantee me that he always had in mind, since day one, that Zoro would learn to cut steel in Alabasta or what would happen with Chopper if he ate 3 Rumble Balls..
I was just poking fun…=_=
i read the following in another forum:
"451: Do your last miracle - Breaking through the gates of justice
452: Aiming to navy headquarters - The voyage to rescue Ace!
453: Weather science and gentlemen passion tea (provisional)
454: Sanji & Chopper episode (provisional)"
are they just a rumour or are we getting some of the crew again? with the anime getting closer to the manga it looks like they could use some stalling (again!)
(I'm not sure if XMuradX is the original poster/translator of the info… )
but it's always funny how someone quote something from one website to another without credit/source and eventually it will show up in the original website as "things seen in other website"
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but then again, this is just a small info, not much big deal (so no offence to Daz above)
What I mean actually is, in general, ppl should try to include the source/origin of a news/articles/infos
@Daz:
i read the following in another forum:
are they just a rumour or are we getting some of the crew again? with the anime getting closer to the manga it looks like they could use some stalling (again!)
The news came from 2ch first, and the original news contains staff list… So it's likely true...
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I guess XMuradX is the original translater...
well, i was talking about the english translation, the title is exactly the same.
but then again, this is just a small info, not much big deal (so no offence to Daz above)
What I mean actually is, in general, ppl should try to include the source/origin of a news/articles/infos
Ahhh…At first my post above is a reply to Daz... If only I made a quote...
ok, I misunderstood… i think i should merge my post then
My ability of English expression is not very well, so it may be not surprising to see me make all kinds of stupid mistakes… Haha.....:ninja::ninja::ninja:
Strawhat's fillers begin in 2 weeks?! NO! NO! NO! NO!! ヽ(o`皿′o)ノ
I was almost counting DAYS to see 550 and onwards! Now it's another MONTH away!!! NOOO D:
Damn…
The ultimate philosophical question of Anime:
Which is better, a filler arc or a filler-laden cannon arc?????
A canon-laden filler arc. Which is what we're getting.
But if there is a filler arc before a cannon one, usually the cannon arc will be cut down on a lot of its filler, which is why I don't mind the upcoming filler arc as long as it lets them do Marineford justice
why is everyone saying filler? aren't these going to be the cover stories we got for the strawhats?
In the Manga the cover stories are one page, in the Anime they are 30 minutes, that is filler
In the Manga the cover stories are one page, in the Anime they are 30 minutes, that is filler
2 pages, and 10 minutes mor accurately
besides we dont' know if oda handed them a rough page to fill in gaps
I'm hoping he does but I don't think they will debut something in the Anime that isn't in the Manga yet
well who knows, maybe he doesn't want to waste time spending 50 some chpaters showing their adventures and will do like logue town. leave it to anime, yet explains the most important parts in manga via small flashback when appropriate