I believe next chapter we find out how strong Dadan is.
We better see how strong Dadan is or else this was a waste of time. Even Luffy doesnt want to remember Sabo, why should we.
I believe next chapter we find out how strong Dadan is.
We better see how strong Dadan is or else this was a waste of time. Even Luffy doesnt want to remember Sabo, why should we.
I think Oda wants us to believe Sabo is dead in the current time, nevertheless i guess that Sabo isn't dead, the possibilities are plenty, like:
Whatever, we'll see what happens in a few weeks..
So Sabo is notable for being the first noble since Cobra / Vivi who isn't a passionate dick.
Nice chapter so Luffy has two brother
I really like those three interaction this mini flashback as been really fun.
Thanks a lot, Urouge!
Does anyone else find the chapter title irritating? :ninja:
I think we should change the title to "Three brothers and a cup"
it seems like the last chapter and i hope it will be. Maybe Sabo is going to find luffy coz of ace died and Sabo will join luffy´s crewm as a Wrighter!
@HiroVoid:
I think we should change the title to "Under age drinking"
16 chars . :ninja:
@HiroVoid:
I think we should change the title to "Three brothers and a cup"
3bros1cup
@GetsugaZoro:
I really like those three interaction this mini flashback as been really fun.
Damn, even with the idiot grandfather and deadbeat dad, Luffy and Ace's childhood was awesome.
Time to make me a Magellan avatar out of that cover.
@Cyan:
Well, we know where Luffy was born now. Wonder why Dragon would settle there…
He probably boinked Luffy's baby mama half way arocss the world and she went there (someplace safe an quiet) to squeeze the little gaffer out.
Man. I loved this chapter. Their little adventures in Edge Town were cute and funny. We now know Sabo and Ace were generally about as strong as each other. Luffy was nowhere close to either of them. Sabo being a noble was pretty shocking. I can't see Sabo still being a noble, though, if he is alive. He basically hates his family and hierarchy. He'd probably run away again.
Sabo is probably one of my favorite new characters in a long time. Here's me hoping Oda made a mistake using the words "only brother". Maybe Luffy only thinks Sabo is dead or betrayed them, all those other ideas. In Chapter 574 it doesn't look like Luffy was present during whatever got Ace beat down. Ace looks bruised and beaten while Luffy only has a small mark on his head. Ace doesn't look flustered or anything either, which I would believe to happen if your best friend of at least five years died.
Maybe Ace and Sabo made some kind of promise to meet again when they can survive as pirates on their own. Mostly when Sabo can escape, get a ship, and sail. (Fan-fictitious?)
Whatever. I don't think Oda would add Sabo into the story if he would just kill him off, making Ace the only special one. Would have a greater effect if it was just Ace and Luffy struggling together than three brother having a good time until one is abducted and possibly dies.
Sabo!
There's always someone important that dies on all flashbacks in One Piece, and I don't think it's wrong to say that Sabo dies in this flashback for the whole reason that it has already been said before in the manga that Ace was Luffy's only brother (by Luffy himself, and I think Ace said it too, but I don't remember in which chapter). I think this proves that the theory of Sabo dying in this flashback is a great possibility, also if you notice the patterns on most flashbacks in One Piece. For the moment that's what I think, and this flashback is just getting better and better.
By the way, GUYS, i have a firggin' theory. Sabo is… ACE! It makes perfect GD sense. I mean just think about it. For serious guys.
What is this I don't even…....
seldom have I heard something so impossible
kudos to you my friend
Something about Sabo being a noble strikes me as peculiar.
Granted, Luffy's an idiot when it comes to most thing's World Govt. related…
But forgetting a brother that HAPPENS to be a noble?
Some shit is going down in this flashback...
The scene with the three of them choked me up a little. It was nice to see Makino again too. That does it for me though, "Sabo for Nakama" if this is possible.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/lord_darkstorm/brotherfromanotherplanet.jpg
Sabo could be dead, thus making Ace his only brother that's alive (at that moment).
Love how adorable this flashback was for a good twelve pages.
X20a, I think that could easily be written around. Like Sabo took a hit for them, and he asked them to think of him as if he was already dead. But what gets me is why Sabo didn't try to save Ace if he was still alive, especially if he had become a noble. I'm fifty-fifty at this point on whether Sabo lives or dies in this flashback.
I do wish Makino would have said something though because right now she has the personality of a pop up book .
loved the chapter very good, I especially love when luffy fails at the gomu gomu pistol, i always wondered how that worked so well
[qimg]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/lord_darkstorm/brotherfromanotherplanet.jpg[/qimg]
luffy could simply think sabo has died, or
sabo himself could simply say something in the next chapter
along the lines of, "ace, luffy! i'm not
your brother anymore!!"
Chapter 558, page 10, the sake cup panel, on the edge of the panel had a shadow of a third cup, the text from mangafox "the two of us are brothers" The text from Dirt Monkey Al "Did you know? If we share each other's cup we'll become brothers! // From this day forward, we … // ... are brothers!!"
So it has been for-shadow that there was another cup, which mean another brother, but the text from mangafox threw me off >< i love it how Oda give little tiny hints, Luffy and Ace are even wearing the same clothes from the little flashback in chapter 558 and this current chapter (585).
After reading the whole chapter, i have a feeling Sabo will die, because in another little flashback, Luffy thought Ace died and was really upset, something must of traumatize Luffy to even think that, and that is when Ace promise he wont die to luffy.
edit: just read through the forum, the 3 cups been mentioned already lol
Who doesn't like Sabo?!! He's a frickin' legend already.
The weirdest thing that is in everyone's head right now is why there hasn't been a single mention of him up until the flashback, when he was a brother to Ace and Luffy. This is why everyone thinks he's dead. But Oda is putting a lot of the spotlight on Sabo, meaning that he has a strong role in the One Piece story, dead or alive.
I hope he doesn't end up betraying them… it's very unlikely judging by the way he allowed himself to be taken to save Ace and Luffy.
So I'm thinking that Sabo is involved in an "incident" where he dies, and Ace and Luffy promise never to speak about it again as it was that horrifying/ sad.
Then again, Oda doesn't kill good guys who have dreams. Sabo survives, and has a big role to play in the manga yet !! I really want to see a grown version of Sabo, and looking at his character design, I think it's set up for that. What's become of Sabo is the biggest mystery.
This flashback has me as tense as the whole Whitebeard War. Roll on the next chapter (is there a break?).
Again, the kids were so cuuuuuute!
lol at Ace's shirt. "Not Guilty", then "Violence"? Where did the kid find them…
Luffy was quite the little rascal back in the day. And now we finally see where Ace got his dine and dash habit.
I guess now we know why Sabo was not at Marineford. I wonder if he is a noble still, or got connected with, say, the revolutionaries.
Sabo could be Law. Explains the save, just not the unacknowledgement of knowing Luffy when seeing him again
Awesome! Gotta love sabo, the kid who looks like a pimp =P. Next chapter, Dadan vs Bluejam.
Didn't Luffy yell out a while ago "Ace is the only brother I have!"? It makes me think Sabo dies at some point.
Next chapter, Dadan vs Bluejam.
Where Dadan unveils her Cerberus fruit and Bluejam takes on the moniker of Kaidou.
Ha, This is what ODA wants me to think, but im for
Sabo to listen to his parents, do some stupid social climbing, then get noticed by some world nobles and get shot. His parents did seem the kind to push kid out in front of world nobles.
oh and the Ace is Sabo bit is from Kurohime "probably said by now tho"
Luffy and Ace are at the mercy of the pirates if I am not mistaken at the end.
Awesome chapter is awesome! :) Sabo has to be one of my favorite characters now!
Yeah i was up for dadan to the rescue and this to happen in the meantime
Did Sengoku found out about the Ace - Roger connection from Garp, or another source? looks at Sabo
Okay, so Luffy has another brother. Sweet. Is the relationship with Sabo the same as Ace? If so, I think Sabo is dead, or it would have been mentioned previously. However, Ace dying was so HUGE for Luffy, so surely this pain would have been just as great for Sabo's death? What will happen to Sabo? I am confused.
The relationship is more or less the same, all 3 became brothers through the same ceremony. The only difference is that Ace and Luffy both consider Garp to be their grandfather and Sabo, seemingly, does not. But he's barely around so that holds little relevance. Also, he doesn't appear to be a "D".
The current saga (from Sabaody to now) seems to revolve entirely around Luffy's dream and the theme of desiring freedom.
It started with Camie, the Flying Fish Riders and the slavery rings. Then it introduced the Tenryuubito, Hancock (a former slave to the tenryuubito), then Impel Down and then the war. The war seemed to be not related to the theme of freedom, but now we have this flashback in which we once again have the looming threat of the Tenryuubito and Sabo being forced to abandom his dreams and his brothers.
When asked by Rayleigh, Luffy talks about the Pirate King being the man with most freedom in the entire ocean.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/507/09/
ANd then, as Ace was being carried to the execution, we had this small memory of his:
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/549/18/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/549/19/
"Live without regrets"
"Set out to the seas"
"Live our lives the way we want"
"Become freer than anyone"
I have a feeling that this scene, and not the one with Ace saying he won't die like I once thought, will be the end of of this flashback (before a montage of Ace and Luffy growing up and going their separate ways). I think they're lamenting Sabo's fate, whatever it is.
Hmmm…Now that I think about Sabo is probably dead...His hat looks an awful lot like Ace's, and he probably gave it to him before he died...
Okay apparently a vast majority of you haven't been paying attention to One Piece. Family is the most important thing in the One Piece universe. There isn't ANYTHING that Sabo could say or do that would keep him from being Luffy's brother at this point. Just take a look back at all the evidence for a moment:
Nami BETRAYS Luffy steals the Going Merry and tells him to get the hell out of her village and that she's used him for his money. Chapter 76-81. What does Luffy do? He beats Arlong freeing Nami, whom at this point he had only known for a couple of months, because she is FAMILY.
Luffy declared war on the world for Nico Robin. Again a woman that he only knew for a few months. Why? Because she is FAMILY.
He said multiple times during the war that he didn't care if he died as long as he saved his brother Ace. When part of Luffy's FAMILY is threatened he ALWAYS fights. Always.
If Sabo were alive Luffy and Ace would have already saved him. Now the only thing is finding out just how Sabo is eliminated from the story.
A question to all of the people that believe Sabo will betray his "most important brothers": Why would Sabo's 'betrayal' be something that makes Ace want to live?
Also, the fact that they made an unbreakable bond through their brotherhood ceremony. Even if he betrayed he would still be their brother.
What if Sabo rapes and tortures them?
Really great and interesting chapter. I'm assuming that since Luffy grew up most of with life with just Ace, he forgot about Sabo and only considered Ace as his brother. I COULD BE WRONG THOUGH!
Let's see what you got planned Goda
Really great and interesting chapter. I'm assuming that since Luffy grew up most of with life with just Ace, he forgot about Sabo and only considered Ace as his brother. I COULD BE WRONG THOUGH!
Let's see what you got planned Goda
Goda? Oda's what you meant right?
So who do you think was the oldest brother? Ace or Sabo?
@Zoro's:
Goda? Oda's what you meant right?
No, it's a fan name. God+Oda=Goda.
@AdmiralYonkouMt.Bandit:
What if Sabo rapes and tortures them?
Their brother is an asshole.
@Zoro's:
Goda? Oda's what you meant right?
Nah, what Robo Gorilla said is right! :)
Except to correct him, it's : God + Oda = Goda
Nah, what Robo Gorilla said is right! :)
Except to correct him, it's : God + Oda = Goda
Ok, sorry I'm such a newb!
Sabo fakes his death and secretly leaves the island before Ace.
It's okay, your Sabo avatar makes up for it.
Sabo fakes his death and secretly leaves the island before Ace.
This is something I hope.
After I've reread the chapter, the chance of Sabo betraying Ace and Luffy is non-existent. He would not have sacrificed his dream and freedom for his "brothers" only to turn on them. He also hates his parents and nobility, so it's not like he would willingly take sides with them against Ace and Luffy.