why quite a few people consider it undisputedly the best?
Can be endlessly debated about the depth of themes, the originality and development of characters, the world building and its background, the plot details and its overall flow, but most of Nausicaa discussions result in some smartass coming and throwing in "Namulith is awesome!" - and being damn right about it.
Namulith is awesome!
And all is right with the wolrld.
What the hell is Namulith?
Yeah, I keep hearing this from people who's opinions I don't instantly disregard. I've never read it so could you briefly explain why quite a few people consider it undisputedly the best?
Basically, it does everything right, and it does it in a very short ammount of time, just a couple of volumes. (4-7, depending on edition) Characters, story, world creation, art, etc. The movie only covers a small portion of the story (about 1/4? Maybe 1/3?) Its Miyazaki at the top of his game, and lets face it, the quality of Miyazaki's work is impossible to dispute. (Even his bad or boring or not as well done movies are beautiful to look at or generally well thought out)
It's not everyone's cup of tea (nothing is) but its one of those series where, much like Akira, all you need to do is look at the work on the page and you can just see how much work and effort and story is there on the page. Even if you do't completely dig it, the built world and attention to detail is great.
There's other stuff thats longer, or a lighter easier read, and stuff that is better for different reasons, (Again, Akira is the other easy answer. One of my personal favorites is Outlanders, but I know that its really just a goofy crazy adventure T&A book with an perverted aliens and big spaceships.)
Nausicaa is just the easy "less than 10 volumes really great in every department" answer, I suppose.
Gankutsuou: The Count of Monte Christo has some amazing art, too. And Gensomaden Saiyuki is also well drawn.
I also found this new series that has some pretty trippy art, Mononoke:
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
Why do I have a feeling Nausica's one of those really great seinen series who I'll feel is over-rated when I read because all the themes and subtle story nuances would fly over my head?:/
Same thing happened to me with Vagabond.
Dragon Ball is the greatest manga of all time… all time…
Dragon Ball is the greatest manga of all time… all time…
IN DISAGREEMENT! Dragon ball is good, but not the best.
Dragon Ball is the greatest manga of all time… all time…
If you completely ignore about half the series, then yes, its pretty good.
I have yet to see any unique toning tech's oda used that I haven't see before. Cross hatching, kubo easily dominates oda and for perspective I'll seen much better in naruto nuff said.
You don't get it, it's not just using one particular artistic technique but using a bunch and collecting them together. With that said, these days all Kubo and Kishimoto do is spam the ink tones and for a time Kishimoto didn't properly shade his characters. And Kubo never even bothers with backgrounds so there's much less work right there.
looked at this manga for sec didn't look all that great to me.
Because you can judge everything about the art quality of a series by one
glimpse. By that logic that one good page of the First Hokage vs Madara is representative of the total art quality of Shippuden.
…
No seriously, it's really fucking stupid to claim that Negima has mediocre art. What page did you even look at?
@Narutossss:
proves how bias your opinion really is.
… Are you kidding me? Art style IS subjective. Art itself and the techniques used and the overall effort is NOT. There's no fucking thing as bias. If some Narutard goes and says this is an artistic masterpiece
!
that's not being biased, that's being fucking stupid. But you want me to list less favorites or series I hate with good art? Fine, don't know what that will achieve unless you're stupidly suggesting I only think series I like have good art. Veritas, Flame of Recca, Eyeshield, for series I 'm not really into there's Fairy Tail, Reborn, there's To Love Ru which I absolutely despise. I could really go on all day with the tons of volumes of manga I've read.
do you really need to follow a manga to tell if the art is good or not.
Actually you do if you want to be able to formulate a proper opinion on it. It's easy to find a really good page of a series and prop it up to be the norm of the series. But to really get a good idea of the quality of the art, you need to follow it as you get used to the author's style and the subtle nuances of his artistic details. Not to mention how an artist's style constantly evolves as a series progresses. An example would be Angel Densetsu.The beginning had pretty mediocre art and this was a monthly series. However as time passed, the art became fantastic and what's really great is that you saw for yourself how the art and art style evolved to what it became giving you an even greater appreciation and insight to the quality of the art. This actually applies to most series including One Piece. Oda's initial backgrounds were rigid and formulaic, now they're rich, vibrant and have many unique artistic details. The fact that you think Negima has mediocre art from one glimpse shows how important it is to follow a series>.>
beelzebub???? really? and khr is more shojo than shounen and every male character kinda looks female.
At this point, you've pretty much shown you no shit about art and you're just arguing for the sake of it. Is this really the best response you could come up with?
btw lets not forget this from wintergt's brillant review.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4012790/Pictures/op10.jpg
You're comparing one slight goof in perspective in one panel for the volumes of work done by Oda? Ignoring the amount of artistic quality that panel provided over one slight error? That particular panel looks fine at first sight anyway unless you stare long enough and then your perverted brain makes that particular way of looking at that image pop out. Jesus, you're really picking at threads here.
All in all I think all mangaka have their own unique way of drawing so it's difficult to judge and mostly depends on what you like be it detailed or simple.
AH. Now we get to the root of the matter. You're just trying to defend Kishimoto's shitty art as a case of a different, simple style. Why am I not surprised?
OK my response.
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"But you're just reusing the same page which isn't representative of the entire shippuden part!!!"
Bitch don't get me started on bad Naruto drawings, the entire cave scene with Madara and Sasuke alone was a volume of vomit on a stick. There is such a thing as art style but trying to use it as an excuse for blatantly bad art is stupid.
there's a part of me that want's to read that wall of text…. but I just know i'll have nothing to show for it in the end
@Thousand:
Why do I have a feeling Nausica's one of those really great seinen series who I'll feel is over-rated when I read because all the themes and subtle story nuances would fly over my head?:/
Same thing happened to me with Vagabond.
Vagabond is a really really simple series. It's a shonen action series, with the ambition obsession with a goal, except for adults.
Yeah, I keep hearing this from people who's opinions I don't instantly disregard. I've never read it so could you briefly explain why quite a few people consider it undisputedly the best?
Nausicaa is the best fiction I have ever ingested.
And Namulith is awesome.
Can someone link to where Narutossss posted that so I can rape the ever living shit out of it in classic Zephos style? Thanks.
Link to where he got started, I'll get to it later. Narutosss, run away while you can you taste blind scrub.
@Thousand:
You don't get it, it's not just using one particular artistic technique but using a bunch and collecting them together. With that said, these days all Kubo and Kishimoto do is spam the ink tones and for a time Kishimoto didn't properly shade his characters. And Kubo never even bothers with backgrounds so there's much less work right there.
Because you can judge everything about the art quality of a series by one
glimpse. By that logic that one good page of the First Hokage vs Madara is representative of the total art quality of Shippuden.…
No seriously, it's really fucking stupid to claim that Negima has mediocre art. What page did you even look at?
... Are you kidding me? Art style IS subjective. Art itself and the techniques used and the overall effort is NOT. There's no fucking thing as bias. If some Narutard goes and says this is an artistic masterpiece
! http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000004/000286062/01.jpg
that's not being biased, that's being fucking stupid. But you want me to list less favorites or series I hate with good art? Fine, don't know what that will achieve unless you're stupidly suggesting I only think series I like have good art. Veritas, Flame of Recca, Eyeshield, for series I 'm not really into there's Fairy Tail, Reborn, there's To Love Ru which I absolutely despise. I could really go on all day with the tons of volumes of manga I've read.Actually you do if you want to be able to formulate a proper opinion on it. It's easy to find a really good page of a series and prop it up to be the norm of the series. But to really get a good idea of the quality of the art, you need to follow it as you get used to the author's style and the subtle nuances of his artistic details. Not to mention how an artist's style constantly evolves as a series progresses. An example would be Angel Densetsu.The beginning had pretty mediocre art and this was a monthly series. However as time passed, the art became fantastic and what's really great is that you saw for yourself how the art and art style evolved to what it became giving you an even greater appreciation and insight to the quality of the art. This actually applies to most series including One Piece. Oda's initial backgrounds were rigid and formulaic, now they're rich, vibrant and have many unique artistic details. The fact that you think Negima has mediocre art from one glimpse shows how important it is to follow a series>.>
At this point, you've pretty much shown you no shit about art and you're just arguing for the sake of it. Is this really the best response you could come up with?
You're comparing one slight goof in perspective in one panel for the volumes of work done by Oda? Ignoring the amount of artistic quality that panel provided over one slight error? That particular panel looks fine at first sight anyway unless you stare long enough and then your perverted brain makes that particular way of looking at that image pop out. Jesus, you're really picking at threads here.
AH. Now we get to the root of the matter. You're just trying to defend Kishimoto's shitty art as a case of a different, simple style. Why am I not surprised?
OK my response.
! http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000004/000286062/01.jpg
"But you're just reusing the same page which isn't representative of the entire shippuden part!!!"
Bitch don't get me started on bad Naruto drawings, the entire cave scene with Madara and Sasuke alone was a volume of vomit on a stick. There is such a thing as art style but trying to use it as an excuse for blatantly bad art is stupid.
Good post. Only a Narutard would hold Naruto art as great…
http://www.apforums.net/showthread.php?t=159&page=243
start on post 4858
now I really don't want to read this.
maybe I should work…
Naruto had fantastic art in the first half, started falling off around chapter 200, and then completely stopped caring when part 2 came around. The earlier stuff was dynamic, had excellent use of blacks, camera angles, body language, detailed backgrounds, good storytelling, (especially the fights) and lots of creativity and fantastic design.
And many of the same things can be said about Bleach, which was pretty engrossing and interesting before it devolved into a fight manga a couple volumes in.
Quit ragging on the quality of the art and story when both series once had it in spades as if they were always bad. You can complain about how they lost quality all you want and be completely in the right, but stop pretending Naruto was bad from day 1. It wasn't. It was good for several years.
Alright, I need to write a paper about anti-semitism in Merchant of Venice, pencil storyboards, and do a write up analysis of lighting, setting, props, and costume and then I'll rape the shit out of Narutossss.
@Thousand:
You don't get it, it's not just using one particular artistic technique but using a bunch and collecting them together. With that said, these days all Kubo and Kishimoto do is spam the ink tones and for a time Kishimoto didn't properly shade his characters. And Kubo never even bothers with backgrounds so there's much less work right there.
Because you can judge everything about the art quality of a series by one
glimpse. By that logic that one good page of the First Hokage vs Madara is representative of the total art quality of Shippuden.…
No seriously, it's really fucking stupid to claim that Negima has mediocre art. What page did you even look at?
... Are you kidding me? Art style IS subjective. Art itself and the techniques used and the overall effort is NOT. There's no fucking thing as bias. If some Narutard goes and says this is an artistic masterpiece
! http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000004/000286062/01.jpg
that's not being biased, that's being fucking stupid. But you want me to list less favorites or series I hate with good art? Fine, don't know what that will achieve unless you're stupidly suggesting I only think series I like have good art. Veritas, Flame of Recca, Eyeshield, for series I 'm not really into there's Fairy Tail, Reborn, there's To Love Ru which I absolutely despise. I could really go on all day with the tons of volumes of manga I've read.Actually you do if you want to be able to formulate a proper opinion on it. It's easy to find a really good page of a series and prop it up to be the norm of the series. But to really get a good idea of the quality of the art, you need to follow it as you get used to the author's style and the subtle nuances of his artistic details. Not to mention how an artist's style constantly evolves as a series progresses. An example would be Angel Densetsu.The beginning had pretty mediocre art and this was a monthly series. However as time passed, the art became fantastic and what's really great is that you saw for yourself how the art and art style evolved to what it became giving you an even greater appreciation and insight to the quality of the art. This actually applies to most series including One Piece. Oda's initial backgrounds were rigid and formulaic, now they're rich, vibrant and have many unique artistic details. The fact that you think Negima has mediocre art from one glimpse shows how important it is to follow a series>.>
At this point, you've pretty much shown you no shit about art and you're just arguing for the sake of it. Is this really the best response you could come up with?
You're comparing one slight goof in perspective in one panel for the volumes of work done by Oda? Ignoring the amount of artistic quality that panel provided over one slight error? That particular panel looks fine at first sight anyway unless you stare long enough and then your perverted brain makes that particular way of looking at that image pop out. Jesus, you're really picking at threads here.
AH. Now we get to the root of the matter. You're just trying to defend Kishimoto's shitty art as a case of a different, simple style. Why am I not surprised?
OK my response.
! http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000004/000286062/01.jpg
"But you're just reusing the same page which isn't representative of the entire shippuden part!!!"
Bitch don't get me started on bad Naruto drawings, the entire cave scene with Madara and Sasuke alone was a volume of vomit on a stick. There is such a thing as art style but trying to use it as an excuse for blatantly bad art is stupid.
lol I woke up to this 
first of all TLC, I'll say this for the last time this isn't about NARUTO, why do you always, always, always conclude our discussions is ultimately about naruto, I fully well know it's not been it's best art wise lately, I'm not some kind of one piece hating narutard, I'm not even a narutard to begin with. BTW when I said simply style I meant ONE PIECE!. I'm not gonna reply to your text, I'll just justify what I said ok? Lets start with kubo tite.http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/139/02/ In this page kubo shows just how good at crosshatching he really is, truly making kenpachi 3d. Just to had mark crilley complimented kubo on his crosshatching. ok I said naruto had shown better perspective here is what I meant http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/209/18/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/222/16
/http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/227/06/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/230/01/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/232/09/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/239/18-19/
What I said about judging art by taking a look I take back but only that nothing else.
there's a part of me that want's to read that wall of text…. but I just know i'll have nothing to show for it in the end
Hey man, gimme a bit more credit than that. These days I don't bother with long posts unless I have something to show for it.
oh, and thousand, continue that pissing match in the Hunter X Hunter thread please
Now I never intended to start any pissing contests. Wouldn't have made that post in the first place if it weren't for the combination of the funky attitude most Hunter fans have, 3am and robby's batsignal. Not the trigger but the sheer concept of a bat signal is totally gay.
@Tupac's:
Vagabond is a really really simple series. It's a shonen action series, with the ambition obsession with a goal, except for adults.
Eh really? Because I keep reading on Musashi looking at a rabbit and thinking I missed some really blatant symbolism or whatnot. Never figured he was just looking at a rabbit…
@robbybedfart:
oh, I didn't adress this towards anyone. oh well. you know who you are.
Eh, you better. I consistently referred to the shippuden part of Naruto. Bleach…well it's hard to tell exactly when Bleach became what it has. Like the blandness of it just blended together.
Yeah, yeah "I said I wasn't referring to anyone particular!" I was still tiffed about your bat-signal.
lol I woke up to this http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4012790/Pictures/OP575/op575-2.jpg
first of all TLC, I'll say this for the last time this isn't about NARUTO, why do you always, always, always conclude our discussions is ultimately about naruto, I fully well know it's not been it's best art wise lately, I'm not some kind of one piece hating narutard, I'm not even a narutard to begin with. BTW when I said simply style I meant ONE PIECE!. I'm not gonna reply to your text, I'll just justify what I said ok? Lets start with kubo tite.http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/139/02/ In this page kubo shows just how good at crosshatching he really is, truly making kenpachi 3d. Just to had mark crilley complimented kubo on his crosshatching. ok I said naruto had shown better perspective here is what I meant http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/209/18/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/222/16
/http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/227/06/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/230/01/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/232/09/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/239/18-19/
What I said about judging art by taking a look I take back but only that nothing else.
You say that this isn't about Naruto yet it's practically the only manga you used as a reference… Notice how you inexplicably only cited things pre-Shippuden when Naruto still had good art.
@Tupac's:
Link to where he got started, I'll get to it later. Narutosss, run away while you can you taste blind scrub.
run away and miss all the fun?
You say that this isn't about Naruto yet it's practically the only manga you used as a reference… Notice how you inexplicably only cited things pre-Shippuden when Naruto still had good art.
Like I said I was just justifying what I said.
Which is what exactly?
@Thousand:
Which is what exactly?
That naruto has shown better perspective than OP.
That naruto has shown better perspective than OP.
And you forget about Bleach completely lol.
Nope this wasn't about Naruto at all!!!
And showcasing a few good pages to demonstrate a point on one series and not looking at the other side and comparing to the other series is comparing shit.
"But you didn't compare images of One Piece and Naruto at all when you were talking about them!" Do I have to? Naruto having bad art and One Piece having great art is clear as day. Comparing pre-Shippuden Naruto and One Piece on something tricky like perspective is a different matter.
@Thousand:
And you forget about Bleach completely lol.
Nope this wasn't about Naruto at all!!!
And showcasing a few good pages to demonstrate a point on one series and not looking at the other side and comparing to the other series is comparing shit.
"But you didn't compare images of One Piece and Naruto at all when you were talking about them!" Do I have to? Naruto having bad art and One Piece having great art is clear as day. Comparing pre-Shippuden Naruto and One Piece on something tricky like perspective is a different matter.
please go ahead and prove to me just how bad naruto art is:getlost: It's not as good as it use to be but naruto doesn't have overall bad art. As for One piece perspective these are the only pages that come to mind as outstanding http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/155/04-05/
and http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/157/10-11/ and just so you don't misunderstand I never once said OP art wasn't great, just not the best shonen art.
That naruto has shown better perspective than OP.
Absolutely incorrect in every way.
Naruto's always been filled with insanely questionable perspective.
From the good old days.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/9/17/
To the here and now.
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@Thousand:
robby's batsignal. Not the trigger but the sheer concept of a bat signal is totally gay.
You're a cigarette.
Also what the fuck are you even talking about AMAZING PERSPECTIVE.
Nobody looks for amazing perspective, it's not a goddamn thing to get excited about.
You only ask for accurate perspective that doesn't make the images look retarded. That's the only thing perspective matters in, it's a technical category. Oda has only ever done it well, and I can think of lots of hilarious Naruto examples of it fucking up.
You know Narutossss I was just going ignore this argument and come back to this thread once everything died down, because I can at least understand how One Piece's art can seem goofy when you first start reading it. I mean I thought that before I got into the series, and now I think the art each week is amazing. I would even stay out of your praising Bleach and Naruto's art, but to completely discard Beelzebub of having good art so far in its series is ridiculous. Have you even read a chapter of it?
@Tupac's:
Also what the fuck are you even talking about AMAZING PERSPECTIVE.
Nobody looks for amazing perspective, it's not a goddamn thing to get excited about.
You only ask for accurate perspective that doesn't make the images look retarded. That's the only thing perspective matters in, it's a technical category. Oda has only ever done it well, and I can think of lots of hilarious Naruto examples of it fucking up.
fuck ups? sure why not
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fuck ups? sure why not
http://media4.onemanga.com/mangas/00000002/000200532/08-09.jpg
one fuck up in over 500 chapters, whereas Tupac pointed out one from early in Naruto and one from more current Shitpuuden. gg, try again.
please go ahead and prove to me just how bad naruto art is:getlost:
You know you're flat out admitting that this was ever only about Naruto.
At any rate, think that one cover page spoke a lot and I'm not in the mood of trawling through bad art.
"But you're just being a hypocrite now!!!"
Fine then, 1 random Naruto page pre and post Shippuden.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/97/19/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/440/17/
It's not as good as it use to be but naruto doesn't have overall bad art.
No it pretty much sucks now. My prior example showed as much.
As for One piece perspective these are the only pages that come to mind as outstanding http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/155/04-05/
and http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/157/10-11/
Jesus, you had to trawl all the way to the 100's to find good examples? The last chapter alone had many examples of One Piece's great perspective.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/575/08-09/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/575/10-11/
and just so you don't misunderstand I never once said OP art wasn't great, just not the best shonen art.
Name one shonen weekly series currently running that One Piece can't compare to.
Edit: Oh shit, Zephos is on the case. He's damn fast at writing papers. I don't even think I need to give any more input.
fuck ups? sure why not
[qimg]http://media4.onemanga.com/mangas/00000002/000200532/08-09.jpg[/qimg]
durr durr donflamingo? Huge? me no notice this over the past 500 chapters
Also before you splutter in, Mihawk and Boa are on the same plane as the Marines.
fuck ups? sure why not
http://media4.onemanga.com/mangas/00000002/000200532/08-09.jpg
Rather a clever perspective, Mihawk and Boa are standing right at the image while marine and rest of Schichibukai are standing lot farther.
If you took photo from group, taking photo near tip of shoes of first persons and put 2-3 persons to 10-40 meters away you can make that first person look gigantic in contrast.
Artist and expert photographers often use angle techiniques to adjust sizes of objects in image.
I dont want to say that image is perfect but its pretty damn nice, it cheats viewer to believe all Schichibukais are size of giants or Oars but if you look it more carefully and taking perspective and angle of the shot to education you can truely appreciate that panel.
i gotta go to class but look at this shit
he used this in his "good naruto perspective" examples.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/230/01/
Look at that fucking cat vomit lollll
You have no idea what you're talking about Narutosss.
I think that might be some of the worst perspective in the series even lol, almost as bad as the Naruto with balloon head Pain.
@Tupac's:
i gotta go to class but look at this shit
he used this in his "good naruto perspective" examples.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/230/01/Look at that fucking cat vomit lollll
You have no idea what you're talking about Narutosss.
Oh God, I never bothered looking at all of them. It's like his arm was pulled out of its socket and twisted in places.
@robbybedfart:
You're a cigarette.
:blink:
…
:cwy:
@Thousand:
You know you're flat out admitting that this was ever only about Naruto.
At any rate, think that one cover page spoke a lot and I'm not in the mood of trawling through bad art.
"But you're just being a hypocrite now!!!"Fine then, 1 random Naruto page pre and post Shippuden.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/97/19/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/440/17/No it pretty much sucks now. My prior example showed as much.
Jesus, you had to trawl all the way to the 100's to find good examples? The last chapter alone had many examples of One Piece's great perspective.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/575/08-09/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/575/10-11/Name one shonen weekly series currently running that One Piece can't compare to.
Edit: Oh shit, Zephos is on the case. He's damn fast at writing papers. I don't even think I need to give any more input.
No I'm sure it was YOU who made this about naruto, I'm sure! btw you activated my trap card
look at these latest ones
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/405/01/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/423/08-09/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/429/06-07/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/429/12-13/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/429/16-17/
No I'm sure it was YOU who made this about naruto, I'm sure! btw you activated my trap card
look at these latest ones
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/405/01/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/423/08-09/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/429/06-07/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/429/12-13/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/429/16-17/
I love how you're not even bothering with perspective anymore but you're flat out only focusing on the art. And you still insist this was never about Naruto.
Oh and the other ones are kinda understandable but the first one!?! You really have no clue what you're talking about.
And your trap card would have been almost clever if it didn't blatantly show outside of the disfigured Sasuke one how much better the consideration of perspective was in the good old days. You're just shooting yourself in the foot there.
THIS MY FRIENDS WILL END THIS STUPID ARGUMENT!
please go ahead and prove to me just how bad naruto art is:getlost: It's not as good as it use to be but naruto doesn't have overall bad art. As for One piece perspective these are the only pages that come to mind as outstanding http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/155/04-05/
and http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/157/10-11/ and just so you don't misunderstand I never once said OP art wasn't great, just not the best shonen art.
This isn't good perspective? (If the spread was merged):getlost:
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/281/02/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/281/03/
Looks like good perspective to me.
This too.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/279/18/
And This. (Middle Panel)
@Thousand:
I love how you're not even bothering with perspective anymore but you're flat out only focusing on the art. And you still insist this was never about Naruto.
Oh and the other ones are kinda understandable but the first one!?! You really have no clue what you're talking about.
And your trap card would have been almost clever if it didn't blatantly show outside of the disfigured Sasuke one how much better the consideration of perspective was in the good old days. You're just shooting yourself in the foot there.
I'm still pretty sure YOU made this about naruto when I didn't even mention it at the start of this discussion. I fail to see how I'm shooting myself in the leg, I just posting amazing perspective shots and you hurry to change the subject.
What about this perspective?
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/123/02/
i think naruto and one piece both have good perspectives, and i like the art in both although i thought part 1 was more unique
I do love one piece art better though the kind of cartoony style is very cool, the hydra was awesome and of course this was awesome
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