I am going to resolve myself to not reading the spoilers from now on.It was a really good chapter.There was a feeling of things comming to an end in this chapter so who knows maybe Ace might die.
Chapter 573 "The Name of this Era is 'Whitebeard'" Discussion
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And for Ace vs Luffy… Luffy himself said he will be stronger one day than Ace... I don't think they will gight to death... but maybe Luffy will be first to get onto Raftel and Ace simply says you did it Luffy.
Easy: the day Luffy will beat Akainu, he will have become stronger than Ace.
One thing… Garp seems strange as well in this chapter... If really Ace can't get over his limits and save himself... I hpe it won't be Luffy and neither WB.
End of an era. He probably decided to retire. Time to let the new generation take on.
Also, about the transmission working again: perfect match, the world will see the death of Ace and WB, just as announced by the WG and the marines. That's really a new era, they will now run after remaining pirates just like they did after Roger's death, killing every relatives and repressing any possible rebellion. Times will be tough.
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Something tells me that Ace will not have the WB tattoo on his back. Ace just got branded with a fist imprint.
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The chapter should be renamed into WB's pedo nature revealed.
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Easy: the day Luffy will beat Akainu, he will have become stronger than Ace.
End of an era. He probably decided to retire. Time to let the new generation take on.
Also, about the transmission working again: perfect match, the world will see the death of Ace and WB, just as announced by the WG and the marines. That's really a new era, they will now run after remaining pirates just like they did after Roger's death, killing every relatives and repressing any possible rebellion. Times will be tough.
Good thing…
Ace dying is a MUST after this incident... Those chapters and arcs prior to this was not wasted in vain, as OP got rid of one of the least useful characters in the world...
Furthermore, these arcs were used to make Luffy strong and better than the former pirate king's son...
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Akainu invented the method of two-side tattoo. When he retires from Marine and opens a tattoo shop, Ace'll be mentioned as the first customer.
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"Ace in the hole"? More like "Hole in the Ace".
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Someone edit the first post The MQ/HQ raw is out
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At the end of this chapter, I had this going through my head:
"Best, plot twist, ever."
It might not have been exactly like that.
Another thing is that there seem to be a lot of big climaxes in this arc, this one is one of the ones that stood out for that whole "Holy Crap!" feeling you get when you read it for the first time. -
Whitebeard: Say my name. SAY MY NAME!
Ace: FATHER!!!!
Whitebeard: Aw yeah…__>
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WB is a loser like the admiral said. Even after Roger died he couldn't dominate the sea like Roger. The truth hurt Ace, but i don't know why. His real father was the king.
Dude, he was busy! Mellow out man, not everyone has to be pirate king to be a good guy.
And what's this "his real father was the king" crap? You're full of shit if you think something like that man. Roger has nothing to do with this.
@Usopp:
how the hell does lava 'burn fire' ?!
That's the question of this arc. This was a very Bleach like chapter for Oda, but I'll bet it's all redeemed next chapter.
After all, Buggy got the cameras back on. You know something that the entire world needs to see will happen soon.
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so much ace hate :s
come on spoilers… take the attention away from ace
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It's gonna be SSJ Luffy~! Should Ace die that is, similar to Goku witnessing a beloved's death.
Ahh, can't wait til next chapter!
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lol sick chapter
what jembei doing should have moved luffy
is ace gonna die no way
great chapter
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lol sick chapter
what jembei doing should have moved luffy
is ace gonna die no way
great chapter
A futue bounty eh?
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Next chapter: Sexy Nurses to action!!! or Doflamingo action!!
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Next chapter will be a bunch of dialogue about Ace being attacked.
Akainu taunting around.
Then, when all seems lost, the sky turns dark…
All eyes look up and in comes Perona's BIGGEST HOLLOW yet...
KA-BOOM!!
Zoro grabs Luffy and then Perona uses NEGATIVE HOLLOW... Hancock tries to stop them and Zoro cuts her head off...
Then, after all of this, they disappear into the sky and ummm... Time Skip to FI...
But seriously, the next chapter will probably be WB getting stabbed or something.
It'll be a PIRATE jumping in to save the day...
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If Luffy saves the day again during this battle, the WB Pirates are the biggest joke ever.
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It's not irrational Ace hate if he's being a fucking moron. Akainu intentionally goaded Ace into sticking around and the thin-skinned bastard took the bait, ending up with a hole where his stomach should be.
I think this is going to be the catalyst for WB going off the Richter Scale, allowing him to survive long enough to see Marinford destroyed, causing huge casualties (and possibly someone whose name rhymes with Shlackshmeard to put him down once and for all, but that particular scenario is getting dimmer by the chapter).
And yes, somebody will save Ace. I mean, if we've seen someone survive a very large bomb blast, repeated electrical shocks, a bubble of pure pain, a poison baptism, and attempting to sumo an oncoming train, we can assume that a hole in one's stomach isn't impossible to overcome. I'll believe Ace is dead when we see him on the funeral pyre and not a moment before.
This story arc isn't quite over yet, we still have some unsolved mysteries that need resolution. And WB to die, of course.
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It's not irrational Ace hate if he's being a fucking moron. Akainu intentionally goaded Ace into sticking around and the thin-skinned bastard took the bait, ending up with a hole where his stomach should be.
It’s irrational Ace hate when Ace is the only one singled out when there are so many characters who’ve done what he’s done, acted how he’s acted and yet he’s the only one being called on it.
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It's not irrational Ace hate if he's being a fucking moron. Akainu intentionally goaded Ace into sticking around and the thin-skinned bastard took the bait, ending up with a hole where his stomach should be.
I think this is going to be the catalyst for WB going off the Richter Scale, allowing him to survive long enough to see Marinford destroyed, causing huge casualties (and possibly someone whose name rhymes with Shlackshmeard to put him down once and for all, but that particular scenario is getting dimmer by the chapter).
And yes, somebody will save Ace. I mean, if we've seen someone survive a very large bomb blast, repeated electrical shocks, a bubble of pure pain, a poison baptism, and attempting to sumo an oncoming train, we can assume that a hole in one's stomach isn't impossible to overcome. I'll believe Ace is dead when we see him on the funeral pyre and not a moment before.
This story arc isn't quite over yet, we still have some unsolved mysteries that need resolution. And WB to die, of course.
Um, Ace got stabbed because he was defending Luffy, which actually has little to do with Ace being goaded. Also, I ask, what else was Ace going to do in that situation? Akainu was on their ship, or so it seemed the backgrounds weren't clear this chapter. Someone was going to have to attack the guy.
Haters being hating. This chapter is bringing all the disillusioned bastards out of the works.
Oh, and noticing the WB die comment. Fuck man, Oda ruined his own story by having Pell not die, or a fanbase that could just get over a guy surviving a bomb. I mean, fuck, after all this time does a superhuman zoan user survive a bomb really mean anything? We've seen people survive attacks bigger then that thing now–what's the point. What is the point, aside from being emo.
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In page 8, a pirate says Blenheim,he can be the giant commander??
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hold on a second…do people really think Ace is gonna die? The author who didn't even kill Pell who carried a massive bomb into the sky and came out perfectly fine?
I understand WB's death...he has to die to end an era, but Ace cannot die. He's part of the new generation that WB is sacrificing himself for. Can anyone possibly think WB's sacrifice will be in vain? The entire arc to be in vain with Ace dying as they are escaping?
Come on.
P.S. Hasn't Boa openly defied the World Government? She can't stay on that island anymore than the pirates...anyone think she will help Ace/Luffy out and escape with them? Small chance I know...more likely Squardo will do something to furthur repent...I'm trying to guess who will sacrifice themselves to save Ace/Luffy
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hold on a second…do people really think Ace is gonna die? The author who didn't even kill Pell who carried a massive bomb into the sky and came out perfectly fine?
I understand WB's death...he has to die to end an era, but Ace cannot die. He's part of the new generation that WB is sacrificing himself for. Can anyone possibly think WB's sacrifice will be in vain? The entire arc to be in vain with Ace dying as they are escaping?
Come on.
Half of them are just repeating a played out joke.
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Luffy will be the next Sasuke!
gets mobbed and stabbed repeatedly
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I don't care what anyone says, Ace is a MAN.
Luffy would have done the exact same thing if in the same position.Also, the magma/fire thing is still utter bullshit.
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but why can't both of them die? Ace and WB? this means that Marines won and it would be even harder for Luffy to become the pirate king, which is actually a good thing. new era, right? gold roger was the king of old era, WB of this (that has just finished) and luffy will be the next king.
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I still wih Ace will somehow comes back and save himself and the others… Ace rage should be over 9000.
His lil bro can't save him always
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Kishido. It hurts a little to read the truth but i think we all got what you want. No need to repeat yourself in every post you make :)
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Luffy would have done the exact same thing if in the same position.
At first, the scene with Luffy, Zoro, Nami, and Bellamy came to mind. But that was someone mocking LUFFY. Trying to recall other examples… there is the obvious example of Higuma, Kuro mocking pirates and Usopp, Wapol mocking Hiriluk's flag, Crocodile mocking Toto from Yuba, Crocodile mocking Vivi, Bellamy mocking Cricket... I'm sure there are more where Luffy gets pissed and goes to bat for the sake of someone else, but my brain is completely failing right now...
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At first, the scene with Luffy, Zoro, Nami, and Bellamy came to mind. But that was someone mocking LUFFY. Trying to recall other examples… there is the obvious example of Higuma, Kuro mocking pirates and Usopp, Wapol mocking Hiriluk's flag, Crocodile mocking Toto from Yuba, Crocodile mocking Vivi, Bellamy mocking Cricket... I'm sure there are more where Luffy gets pissed and goes to bat for the sake of someone else, but my brain is completely failing right now...
There was that Celestial Dragon mocking Hachi in the Auction House.
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Jinbei should splash water on Ace after getting burned from Akainu… wait...
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There was that Celestial Dragon mocking Hachi in the Auction House.
Oh yeah. Wow, see how dumb I am? How could I forget that one. He also got pissed for Margaret's sake.
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At first, the scene with Luffy, Zoro, Nami, and Bellamy came to mind. But that was someone mocking LUFFY. Trying to recall other examples… there is the obvious example of Higuma, Kuro mocking pirates and Usopp, Wapol mocking Hiriluk's flag, Crocodile mocking Toto from Yuba, Crocodile mocking Vivi, Bellamy mocking Cricket... I'm sure there are more where Luffy gets pissed and goes to bat for the sake of someone else, but my brain is completely failing right now...
Luffy was mocked by Higuma when he was 5 years old.
Luffy fought Croc and Wapol, cause it was his goal to beat them for the sake of the rest….not because they insulted him or Vivi and Hiruluk's flag. Bellamy attacked his friends and stolen Cricket's inheritance...tahts why he retaliated.
Thats completely different. In this case. The WB pirates' goals were completed. They saved Ace. -
Luffy is dead too if noone interferes.
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Oh yeah. Wow, see how dumb I am? How could I forget that one.
Especially since the anime showed it in about 6 separate episodes.
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Kishido. It hurts a little to read the truth but i think we all got what you want. No need to repeat yourself in every post you make :)
Ahh sorry put Ace is really pissing me off this chapter
but other topic.
WTF are all the other commanders and Jinbei doing… They look like cheerleaders...
If we thing logically the war is full of plot holes. Boa could use her king haki to knock most of the fodder out. Mihawk doing 2 slashes nothing more. DoFla is just laughing around. AoKiji could freeze the whole damn ships and broke them apart with his powers. Most of the top tiers could destroy the fodders with there powers but nothing. Jinbei could do a killer wave now that the water is free from ice once again to clean the way.
kainu is the only one doing something.
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Thats completely different. In this case. The WB pirates' goals were completed. They saved Ace.
Yeaaahhhh, that's not the point. The point is that when someone insults Luffy, he shrugs it off and doesn't care. When someone insults Luffy's friends, their dreams, what they believe in, etc, etc, then Luffy gets pissed and reacts. I'm not really saying that it is the exact same thing as what Ace is doing now, but it is similar. If the roles were reversed, I wouldn't be all that surprised to see Luffy do the same. I would still call him an idiot, but as an outsider I have the luxery. If my dad, my mentor, my best friend, etc was being thrown to the gutter, I'm sure I would get mad too. Were I full of pride and power, I might even do something about it. People do stupid things.
Especially since the anime showed it in about 6 separate episodes.
I don't watch the anime, but I appreciate the attempt to reinforce my convictions…
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Yeaaahhhh, that's not the point. The point is that when someone insults Luffy, he shrugs it off and doesn't care. When someone insults Luffy's friends, their dreams, what they believe in, etc, etc, then Luffy gets pissed and reacts. I'm not really saying that it is the exact same thing as what Ace is doing now, but it is similar. If the roles were reversed, I wouldn't be all that surprised to see Luffy do the same. I would still call him an idiot, but as an outsider I have the luxery. If my dad, my mentor, my best friend, etc was being thrown to the gutter, I'm sure I would get mad too. Were I full of pride and power, I might even do something about it. People do stupid things.
I don't watch the anime, but I appreciate the attempt to reinforce my convictions…
The original reason Luffy fought wasnt the insult, in those cases it was just an extra reason to kick the bosses' asses.
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Dude, he was busy! Mellow out man, not everyone has to be pirate king to be a good guy.
And what's this "his real father was the king" crap? You're full of shit if you think something like that man. Roger has nothing to do with this.
That's the question of this arc. This was a very Bleach like chapter for Oda, but I'll bet it's all redeemed next chapter.
After all, Buggy got the cameras back on. You know something that the entire world needs to see will happen soon.
Good guy??? OP doesn't have good guys. They all break the law. I was just pointing out that WB is a loser.
There was that Celestial Dragon mocking Hachi in the Auction House.
Exactly, but they like to point out Ace to make it seem Luffy wouldn't do the same crap. Do you think if it was Zoro or Ace who said "I will hold them back" instead of WB Luffy would be leaving so quick. GTFO
Ahh sorry put Ace is really pissing me off this chapter
but other topic.
WTF are all the other commanders and Jinbei doing… They look like cheerleaders...
If we thing logically the war is full of plot holes. Boa could use her king haki to knock most of the fodder out. Mihawk doing 2 slashes nothing more. DoFla is just laughing around. AoKiji could freeze the whole damn ships and broke them apart with his powers. Most of the top tiers could destroy the fodders with there powers but nothing. Jinbei could do a killer wave now that the water is free from ice once again to clean the way.
kainu is the only one doing something.
This war isn't logical even through the ODA wankers want us to believe that. All throughout the last 5-10 chapters people have been pointing out. Why did Akainu just fire punch the ship??? Mihawk can create titlewaves for god sakes.
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I like the war, and I was defending it a ton earlier but (pardon my blasphemy) it'll probably be better in the anime.
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What some people are failing to realize, is that you have to use your imagination to assist you when reading different forms of literature. Just because a character doesn't get panel-time, doesn't mean they aren't doing something.
As a reader, you have the obligation to:
-Determine the time-frame of which the story is taking place.
-How characters and their environments are interpreted on panels.
-What characters off-panel are doing while other panels are being shown.Point? Think outside the box and things might become a little clearer to you.
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WB got the title of PK?? WB own crew members betrayed him and owned his ass. WB wanted to be king and failed.
Well, if being called "the strongest man alive" doesn't mean dominating, tell me who do you think really dominated the pirate world during the past decades ?
Imo, each era will have a different "dominating" title according to one performance.
Gol D. Roger is PK.
WB would be "Father of the seas" or something like that.
Luffy's title will be linked about his involvement of changing the world. Rayleigh made it clear that One Piece is not the real goal. At best, a huge bait from Roger who knew thing and use his reputation & treasures to appeal on people in order to change the World.It's pretty sure that WB goal is somehow the same as GR.
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Exactly, but they like to point out Ace to make it seem Luffy wouldn't do the same crap. Do you think if it was Zoro or Ace who said "I will hold them back" instead of WB Luffy would be leaving so quick. GTFO
QFT. Ace acted the exact same way Luffy would have reacted, and he dindt lost a fight, he had to step between Luffy and a magmatic punch in order to save his live (Something he manages, paying back his doubt with Luffy). If you hate Ace because of this, you must hate Luffy too, or else you are a bunch of morons and hipocrits.
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QFT. Ace acted the exact same way Luffy would have reacted, and he dindt lost a fight, he had to step between Luffy and a magmatic punch in order to save his live (Something he manages, paying back his doubt with Luffy). If you hate Ace because of this, you must hate Luffy too, or else you are a bunch of morons and hipocrits.
He was losing the fight before that saving. But I agree… luffy would do the same thing... Difference... Luffy somehow manga to beat the people for a goal.
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The thing is ace did not even get hurt from akainu baiting. He got hurt saving luffy ass when akainu was about to kill him.
Also about magma vs fire ace body made of fire ,it is not going to be able to burn out or melt akainu fist in time to stop a punch come on now ace flames would have to be blue for that to happen.
It rather simple if there was a fire down hill and it was blocking the way magma was coming. The magma would go right threw unless the fire was so hot to melt it.
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how is this possible? die raw on the first page, has a better quality than the version on Onemanga? -.-°
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Just had a thought: Would the mass of the magma balance out the heat of the fire? =/
Someone with knowledge in physics please cover this :ninja:
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how is this possible? die raw on the first page, has a better quality than the version on Onemanga? -.-°
It's possible because onemanga doesn't give a rat's ass about quality. I mean, go read their new Naruto chapter. It's quite the piece of work.
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Hey is it just me or is the reason that Akainu's fist nearly killed Ace primarily because Ace intentionally took the hit to stop his fist?
If Ace didn't solidify at some point Akainu just would have gone right through him and killed Luffy.
Ace intentionally stayed in solid form to stop Akainu's fist from killing Luffy. Akainu's fist is so powerful it just most likely one hit KOd Ace. Ace isn't just defenseless he had to make a choice between taking severe damage or letting his brother get fucked up while his brother was defenseless.