Everything I've said in this thread
The Frog Princess (2D!!)
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I remember Iron Giant. I saw it in theaters when it first came out. Nice artwork, kind of boring though. Wasn't really that gripping.
I really liked TIG when I first saw it, and many times after that.
But then I showed it to my Dad, and we watched it together. And he correctly predicted all the scenes before they actually happened, despite having never seen the movie before.
When it finished, I asked how he knew how everything played out, and he said it's becomes The Iron Giant is just an animated version of every 1950's science fiction "monster from space" story ever aired, although with different ideas from different movies.
After that, I realized I completely hate Brad Bird now. :/
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You chose a nice example. Concept art is always better in these cases. Too bad they don't have much to ride on except MAGICK. Imagine this guy cutting people up with an electric carving knife.
Actually, the thought of millions of kids and their parents going into a movie theater expecting to see a nice family-friendly wholesome Disney movie and then seeing that is actually kind of appealing.
Oh, and Iron Giant is teh Awesome.
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Well trashing on Family Guy and being vague certainly amps your cartoon critique respectability up to about a million.
It's too bad that my power level is 10 million.You chose a nice example. Concept art is always better in these cases. Too bad they don't have much to ride on except MAGICK. Imagine this guy cutting people up with an electric carving knife.
Hey….
u mad?
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Yes. And we should all thank Cam'ron for allowing nerds to add another expression to their limited repertoire of acting gangsta on the internet.
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Yes. And we should all thank Cam'ron for allowing nerds to add another expression to their limited repertoire of acting gangsta on the internet.
Feel safe?covers face in shame
I can't believe your mad.
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I really liked TIG when I first saw it, and many times after that.
But then I showed it to my Dad, and we watched it together. And he correctly predicted all the scenes before they actually happened, despite having never seen the movie before.
When it finished, I asked how he knew how everything played out, and he said it's becomes The Iron Giant is just an animated version of every 1950's science fiction "monster from space" story ever aired, although with different ideas from different movies.
If I formed opinions based on that kind of comparison, I'd hate almost every movie I ever saw. The Iron Giant was based off a novel written in 1968, btw. I can't say I really had any problems with the movie from what I remember, it's been a few years since I've seen it…and usually if I am certain I like something I can't be convinced otherwise by someone else's opinion that drastically.
Well trashing on Family Guy and being vague certainly amps your cartoon critique respectability up to about a million.
It's too bad that my power level is 10 million.If a mentally retarded person told you they think you're smart, would you feel insulted or complimented?
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that's the funniest thing I've seen all night;
and I've been surfing colllege humor's website -
From my experience mentally retarded people are rather jovial and prudish at the same time. For them to feel brazed by me would make me exceptionally notable. Now you know what I think about you feeling I'm smart. There's no need to speak out of context, it's okay to feel that way about me!
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From my experience mentally retarded people are rather jovial and prudish at the same time. For them to feel brazed by me would make me exceptionally notable. Now you know what I think about you feeling I'm smart. There's no need to speak out of context, it's okay to feel that way about me!
Hey man, you can't do that.
You got a Lucky Star avatar.
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Lucky Star is fantastic bitch.
Doesn't matter if society don't accept me.
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Says the dude who relies on impotency jokes.
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Well, for those who care, Ebert's review is up.
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091209/REVIEWS/912099996
I'm kinda disheartened he only gave it 3 stars, but then again he also gave Aladdin 3 stars and he gave Lion King 3 and half. Well, it doesn't sound like it's a bad movie by any means, and I'm definitely still going to see it.
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Well, for those who care, Ebert's review is up.
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091209/REVIEWS/912099996
I'm kinda disheartened he only gave it 3 stars, but then again he also gave Aladdin 3 stars and he gave Lion King 3 and half. Well, it doesn't sound like it's a bad movie by any means, and I'm definitely still going to see it.
Ebert only gave it 3 because Siskel wasn't around to add his star.
No but seriously, reviews should only be used to let you know if the movie is too crap to be watched, mostly because we're not goddamn robots and are entitled to enjoy things others did not. I can't count how many movies I've enjoyed despite being given mediocre reviews. They gave Coraline a C+ and I still consider that one of my favorite (animated) movies of all time.
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whoever gave coraline a C+ should kill themselves
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Ebert only gave it 3 because Siskel wasn't around to add his star.
No but seriously, reviews should only be used to let you know if the movie is too crap to be watched, mostly because we're not goddamn robots and are entitled to enjoy things others did not. I can't count how many movies I've enjoyed despite being given mediocre reviews. They gave Coraline a C+ and I still consider that one of my favorite (animated) movies of all time.
whoever gave coraline a C+ should kill themselves
Ha ha, too true, on both accounts.
But yeah, I have a feeling I'll like this movie more than Ebert (or not, who knows?) I pretty much always check with Ebert though because he's usually on the ball with this stuff, but I have disagreed with him before.
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i like to see cartoon movies when there's alot of kids/parents in the audience
when something funny happens, it's like i can appreciate it all the more because everyone else is laughing too
btw dragging my sister with me to go see this tomorrow
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i like to see cartoon movies when there's alot of kids/parents in the audience
when something funny happens, it's like i can appreciate it all the more because everyone else is laughing too
btw dragging my sister with me to go see this tomorrow
You must live near Pleasantville or somewhere close. All the kiddies in a 100 Mile radius of me are thick, unappreciative, snot nosed, pint-sized big-mouthed, slow, smelly, rude and crude MONSTERS that seem to always wait for the right moment in movies to either kick my chair repeatedly or start bitching to mommy dearest about the candy she didn't buy for their spoiled ass. Did I mention they're thick?
Also bringing my sis in tow to the movies Friday when it opens. She wants me to sneak in a Focassia sandwich. It seems to be the tradition now ever since I snuck in Crackers and Cheese for the Wallace and Gromit movie.
Don't ask.
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Now you know what I think about you feeling I'm smart. There's no need to speak out of context, it's okay to feel that way about me!
Well, that's nice that you're all fine and dandy with me feeling that you being smart is about as legit as Britany Spears being as saint, and that you equate mentally handicapped people with Winnie the Pooh, but you totally dodged a legit question. It was random and off-topic though, like most of this thread, anyway.
I will be seeing the movie Friday night….I try to avoid reading reviews beforehand, I'd rather not go in to movies with other people's opinions already in my head. I read them afterward and than evaluate. :P
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Hoping to see the movie Saturday for Matinee, since I couldn't get out of my Friday shift…
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Also bringing my sis in tow to the movies Friday when it opens. She wants me to sneak in a Focassia sandwich. It seems to be the tradition now ever since I snuck in Crackers and Cheese for the Wallace and Gromit movie.
Don't ask.
Was it Wensleydale? Or did you go all-out(er space) for moon cheese?
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Was it Wensleydale? Or did you go all-out(er space) for moon cheese?
i tried moon cheese once, it doesn't taste as good as regular cheese.
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If I formed opinions based on that kind of comparison, I'd hate almost every movie I ever saw. The Iron Giant was based off a novel written in 1968, btw. I can't say I really had any problems with the movie from what I remember, it's been a few years since I've seen it…and usually if I am certain I like something I can't be convinced otherwise by someone else's opinion that drastically.
No, that's not the point. It's about Bird.
I hate style over substance. I cannot appreciate a stupid movie with nothing but flashy graphics or cinematography, even if it's atmospheric in a way I like. This is why I'm very hesitant to waste my time with "turn your brain off" movies.
But I also value original substance, so if the film is recycled drama with a different style, I may/may not like that either depending on how it's handled.
Ratatouille was 0% substance and 100% style. The Incredibles was about 30-70. The Iron Giant used to be 50-50 for me, which was why I liked it the most.
I've seen what Bird can do with an entirely original idea (Ratatouille) and I don't like it. So this means that the only things I like of his is when he pursues an already defined approach to an existing plot in his own style.
I'm disappointed in Bird because I thought he was a better director than he actually is. My feelings toward The Iron Giant aren't going to change, but my impression of Bird definitely did tank based on what I've seen him do since TIG.
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So I'm guessing you're an Andrew Stanton Pixar Man instead of a Brad Bird or John Lassetter one?
I loled at Ebert's opening paragraph. The man's such an animation buff. But that's why we like him.
But yeah, I'm not going to take Ebert's word on everything. He definitely likes the movie, as do the majority of reviewers so far. That's enough to go see it.
And I do wonder if people's reviews are tempered by just how high the expectations were for this film. It had a LOT riding on its shoulders.
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Wall-e forever, other movies never
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One more day to awesome~!
I'm definately looking forward to the music from this, the Witchdoctor's song has already won me over. I'm just hoping the movie will match the quality of the music I've already heard <3@robbybedfart:
Soundtrack is out on itunes now. "Friends on the other side" is sex.
I'm not expecting Beauty and the Beast, or Aladdin or Lion King…. But I am hoping for a Cats Don't Dance level of experiance from this movie.
If it has a Cats Don't Dance level of experience, I will jizz in my pants. :wub:
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I haven't even seen any of the trailers except the first one
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I don't rely on any jokes. Those are good analogies.
Coraline has the same dead models as any recent CGI movie, those who see beyond the stop-motion gimmick will realize they only know how to bait you, but you all seem intent on THOSE GOOD OLD 2-D MOVIES, HYUCK HYUCK HYUCK even if they aren't any good.
I didn't dodge any legitimate question, I responded seriously to slander. I am a saint, and Britney Spears has more cultural integrity than you, who's the hater here? Your hate has been done to death.
There's a load of hand-drawn cartoons from earlier in the century I know most of you haven't seen. Learn to appreciate them, for they commodified the art so years later others can copy it and do it up glamorously and tell you it's pure when it's only mud. -
Well, for those who care, Ebert's review is up.
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091209/REVIEWS/912099996
That's cool. Definitely makes me want to see the movie even more.
I think I have once seen The Iron Giant but… I don't really remember what happened in that movie. I probably should watch it again, sometime. Coraline was very neat, tho. I hope The Graveyard Book gets the same treatment.
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There's a load of hand-drawn cartoons from earlier in the century I know most of you haven't seen. Learn to appreciate them, for they commodified the art so years later others can copy it and do it up glamorously and tell you it's pure when it's only mud.
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I think the midgets at half price for murder is quite interesting.
As well as the murdering Japs for free.
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"There's a load of hand-drawn cartoons from earlier in the century I know most of you haven't seen."
Yeah. Lilo and Stitch was pretty awesome, more people should see it. Treasure Planet was pretty good in spots. Does Fantasia 2000 count as earlier in the century? It has 2000 in the name but it was technically released in 1999, last century. Dinosaur was 2000 for sure, but it was cgi and nobody cares about that one.
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I BET YOU DONT KNOW ABOUT
! FINDING NEMO
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hey wait i care about dinosaur
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but it was CGI so obviously nobody cares about it. The same way not a single person in the world liked Shrek or Shrek 2 or Kung Fu Panda.
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hey wait i liked those movies too
i must not exist
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no, obviously you aren't smart enough to know quality productions, like Home on the Range or The True Story of the Titanic. those are the masterpieces of our time.
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i have lived a truely sheltered life
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Its okay. Chipmunks the Squeakwal has come to bless us all.
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The GOOD ANIMTED movies of this decade were:
-Lili and Stitch
-Emperor's New Groove
-I'll put Treasure Planet to be nice, but I didn't like it.The GOOD CGI movies were:
-Monster's Inc.
-The Incredibles
-Meet the Robinson's (HIGHLY UNDERRATED! I WILL FORCE EVERY ONE IN THIS MOVIE TO WATCH IT IF I HAVE TO!)
-Wall-E
-Up
-….....Finding Nemo (Overrated in my opinion. Good, but people ruined it for me because of how much they loved it).I hated Cars and Bolt with every passion in my soul. Everything else was 'meh' or 'crap'.
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i'm sorry but
There's a load of hand-drawn cartoons from earlier in the century I know most of you haven't seen. Learn to appreciate them, for they commodified the art so years later others can copy it and do it up glamorously and tell you it's pure when it's only mud.
this is too goddamn funny
all i can see is that LUCKY STAR asshole in an indiana jones outfit in some cave somewhere and inside one of the tunnels she finds a bunch of old cartoons being looped on old movie projectors, but before she can save any of it, a bunch of indian guys in turbans blow the place to SMITHEREENS
AND THEN THE INDIAN IN BLACK TURNS AROUND AND TAKES OFF HIS TURBAN AND LO AN BEHOLD IT'S LORD DISNEY-VORT GRAFTED TO THE BACKSIDE OF HIS SKULL
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i'm sorry but
this is too goddamn funny
all i can see is that LUCKY STAR asshole in an indiana jones outfit in some cave somewhere and inside one of the tunnels she finds a bunch of old cartoons being looped on old movie projectors, but before she can save any of it, a bunch of indian guys in turbans blow the place to SMITHEREENS
AND THEN THE INDIAN IN BLACK TURNS AROUND AND TAKES OFF HIS TURBAN AND LO AN BEHOLD IT'S LORD DISNEY-VORT GRAFTED TO THE BACKSIDE OF HIS SKULL
^I want to see that movie.
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@robbybedfart:
Its okay. Chipmunks the Squeakwal has come to bless us all.
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i'm sorry but
this is too goddamn funny
all i can see is that LUCKY STAR asshole in an indiana jones outfit in some cave somewhere and inside one of the tunnels she finds a bunch of old cartoons being looped on old movie projectors, but before she can save any of it, a bunch of indian guys in turbans blow the place to SMITHEREENS
AND THEN THE INDIAN IN BLACK TURNS AROUND AND TAKES OFF HIS TURBAN AND LO AN BEHOLD IT'S LORD DISNEY-VORT GRAFTED TO THE BACKSIDE OF HIS SKULL
….yeah., you deserve the greatest person ever nomination I gave you.
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thanks
it's because i dont exist that i can see things in a way that you mere mortals cant
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i got a free download of one od the songs from this movie on iTunes today
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I'm not gonna download anything. I want to see the songs in context before I buy them. IF I buy them.
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So I'm guessing you're an Andrew Stanton Pixar Man instead of a Brad Bird or John Lassetter one?
wiki's
…thanks, Satsuki. You've helped me break one of the Ten Commandments (thou shall not have other gods but me).
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So I guess you really liked Finding Nemo and Wall*E, huh?
And don't worry about the Ten Commandments. It's like Carlin says, there's really only two:
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There's a load of hand-drawn cartoons from earlier in the century I know most of you haven't seen. Learn to appreciate them, for they commodified the art so years later others can copy it and do it up glamorously and tell you it's pure when it's only mud.
What? Like LuckyStar?
Author doesn't have the ability to draw characters with any individuality.
Same base, different hairstyles/color. I rest my case