Only good things in this chapter, was WB's bye bye to The Moby Dick what is awesome and Luffy vs Three Admirals with mad posing. Awesomes.
Chapter 565 "Path of Oars" Discussion
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He said the exact opposite, dude.
word you quoted me anyways this was a good and suspenseful chapter it seems like BB can come right after the siege wall is destroyed and do some crap. One Piece 4 eva
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I think i mentioned something similar on the last chap discussion but looking at the pic of Akainu shooting Magma fists out of his hands, it seems to me he is a Volcano man, Thereby a Paramecia. It might be likely since it would be a DF matching Epicbeards in some way and, correct me if im wrong, we have yet to see or hear about a single Liquid(ish) Logia
[hide]or maybe a Magmaturtle Zoan:ninja:[/hide]
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I think i mentioned something similar on the last chap discussion but looking at the pic of Akainu shooting Magma fists out of his hands, it seems to me he is a Volcano man, Thereby a Paramecia.
[hide]or maybe a Magmaturtle Zoan:ninja:[/hide]
It is a Logia. Magma is a naturre type element which would fall in line with Logia, and it keeps with the theme of the Admirals being Logia users…..
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I think i mentioned something similar on the last chap discussion but looking at the pic of Akainu shooting Magma fists out of his hands, it seems to me he is a Volcano man, Thereby a Paramecia. It might be likely since it would be a DF matching Epicbeards in some way and, correct me if im wrong, we have yet to see or hear about a single Liquid(ish) Logia
[hide]or maybe a Magmaturtle Zoan:ninja:[/hide]
! No way he's obviously a magmar zoan
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Akainu is a logia, seemongly the same type of 'solid' logia as aokiji as for example when he is hit the punch won't go through him but rather break him if strong enough but akainu would be able to regenerate constantly
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It is a Logia. Magma is a naturre type element which would fall in line with Logia, and it keeps with the theme of the Admirals being Logia users…..
Magma is only molten rock while i see the Logias to be like more elemental types ~damn you crocodile~ you might be right there
but I'll stay with Paramecia.~looks at Maggelan and Mr. 3
! No way he's obviously a magmar zoan
http://www.legendarypokemon.net/images/dp_artwork/126.pngfrom the rearest of rare zoans the pokemon type
looking forward to him explaining his DF then :ninja:
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After seeing Akainu wrecking the Moby like that, I really dont see how the hell is anyone getting outta there after the war is over. I'm sure that Magma brat could sink all of the NW ships just as easily
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Well, regarding WB Commanders:
http://i48.tinypic.com/feqrfp.pngIt seems Curiel was fine all along after fighting Moria, and in this chapter we can see him avoiding getting hit by Akainu, and later helping those pirates that fell in the water.
We got to see some more of He-man too(to the right of the cannons) and the Old man with the white stache and cigar:
http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-565/page008.html
Damn you, Oda, I wanna know the names of those guys too!!
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Magma is only molten rock while i see the Logias to be like more elemental types ~damn you crocodile~ you might be right there
but I'll stay with Paramecia.~looks at Maggelan and Mr. 3
Dam you. I want to beat u over the head with a stick until you accept my postion. And i mean that in the nicest way possible.
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As far as this bout this "Akainu's ability being similar to Magellan and Mr. 3 argument" is concerned I'd like to quote one of Ubiq's arguments:
It also seems odd that Magma/Lava would fall into a subcategory with things like Soap, Wax, and Poison rather than in a category that contains things like Ice, Sand, Light, Darkness, Electricity, and Fire. The psuedoLogias seem to tend towards things that are, for the most part, created by other things (plants, animals, people; while there are poisonous gases and minerals, Magellan calls to mind poisonous plants and hazardous manmade chemicals rather than something like arsenic) while the true Logias seem to be those things that fall into the category of classical Elements.
This is exactly why it strikes me as very unlikely that Akainu's ability should be a Paramecia albeit being a classical element which so far always have been Logias.
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Why do people think Akainu doesn't have a Logia given that we have three admirals all with powers connected to the colour of their nickname, and two of which have already been confirmed as Logia. Not to mention the fact that it would destroy the parity between the admirals.
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After seeing Akainu wrecking the Moby like that, I really dont see how the hell is anyone getting outta there after the war is over. I'm sure that Magma brat could sink all of the NW ships just as easily
there is a difference of defending your ship than not. If whitebead was still on the ship and not front lines, moby dick would have been unharmed.
and yes as for chapter, loved how whitebeard seemed sad and saying goodbye to his ship, like he loved the ship like the going merry. interested to see what this trump card is. i liked luffy's effort, though something has to happen cause he stands no chance, but his effort is there.
don't mnind that oars got up, i'm sure he'll die in end, but hell we have had so many people stabbed in chest, coutning 2 of our own, luffy and robin, plus zoro's slash from mihawk. and with shiki no legs, and a giant with a peg leg, obvious that he woulnd't die from that either. But i'm sure he will in end. But curious now to see what seemingly the 3 most powerful in pure brute str are gonna do now. Whitebeard/Jozu/Oars Jr. now that is brute str there.
as for logia admiral, couldn't care. him being a logia or no doesn't matter. either way he is super tough, and will someday be beaten. so who really cares if he has a logia or a paramecia. It doesn't change the story at all.
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The trump card is…
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Oh yeah, Sengoku is going be pissed.
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escaping won`t be the problem, cause luffy is a master in that point
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Why do people think Akainu doesn't have a Logia given that we have three admirals all with powers connected to the colour of their nickname, and two of which have already been confirmed as Logia. Not to mention the fact that it would destroy the parity between the admirals.
thank you!!!!!!
it was obviously set up this way so they all three admirals had logias that go along with there colors
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Right but it´s irrelevant. If he´s now Logia or Paramecia doesn´t affect the story.
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Akainu's natural enemy will be the guy who ate the Liquid Nitrogen DF.
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i still hope we will see another liquid-fruit (damn that it was already used so shitty in a movie)..
but as i see how jinbei controls the water it`s actually like i hoped that DF user would handle it
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@Don:
i still hope we will see another liquid-fruit (damn that it was already used so shitty in a movie)..
There could be an ink fruit..also glue..and who knows what else…
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anybody else want to see oars get joz and throw him like a baseball and hit the platform ace is on? a diamond baseball thrown at that speed would probably destroy the platform and cause massive amounts of damage to the area around it. just imagine if oars threw joz at an admiral and joz actually made contact and used his haki to make sure the hit landed.
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I'm just going to say that I love that cool-face avatar of Sengoku whoever it is that it belongs to.
Akainu being Paramecia wouldn't really make very much sense. The other Admirals are all Logias plus when he first used his power it looked like he was turning into magma, not creating it.
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So at the end of the chapter Luffy is all on his own, isolated on one side with the high tiers of the worldgovernment, while the other pirates are still behind the Iron Wall.
At the one hand, Luffy's pretty badass for confronting three admirals at once, at the other hand an asswhooping is inevitable if he doesn't get some help. The only ones on his side of the wall who I see willing to stand by his side are Garp, Hancock and…Coby (lol nevermind 'bout that one).
Even though Garp is on the marines side, when Luffy's in REAL danger, there's no way he will just sit and stare. I hope for some development for him. -
I think its time for Luffy to get an actual hit on an admiral. I'm sure Luffy will get an actual fight before the war is over (Sentoumaru or Kuma) but I think Luffy could hit one of the admirals at least, followed by Whitebeard, Marco and Joz showing up to be awesome.
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i still think luffy's fight is going to be against garp. luffy will most likely advance while whitebeards men fight the admirals and once luffy is on the platform garp will confront him and sengoku will try to attack luffy and whitebeard will then come and take him on.
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wow such an epic chapter!
seeing the moby dick get destroyed actually made me sad :(
also i wanna see more action from the infamous NW pirates especially squardo
i wanna see if he is a good fighter and also how he's gonna repay what he did to whitebeard.man whitebeard is such an epic character! if he dies in this war, everyone has to vote for him in next years character popularity contest in rememberence for possibly the most epic manga character ever (him and kuma)
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I Absolutely agree.
whitebeard's character development in this war is really something.
if he die in this war, all OP fans in the world will make a funeral for him, no exception.
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I think its time for Luffy to get an actual hit on an admiral. I'm sure Luffy will get an actual fight before the war is over (Sentoumaru or Kuma) but I think Luffy could hit one of the admirals at least, followed by Whitebeard, Marco and Joz showing up to be awesome.
Yeah I always thought this would happen too. Either his Gear Second heat lets him hit Ao Kiji or due to the stress and strain of battle and the impending danger, he'd temporarily activate Haki and be able to hit an Admiral who thinks the attack won't hurt him and in effect have his guard down (which wouldn't be a deus ex machina because it was foreshadowed and built up since the Flying Fishriders arc). I'm hoping for Kizaru to be the one to get hit because he's the one who's always so complacent half the time as well as there being development between him and Luffy.
Anyway Luffy being able to hit an Admiral would be a sign that Luffy went up one step in the power tier of the pirate world and would probably be around Smoker's level.
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OT: it was said in some older chapter that Luffy has the highest bounty of any East Blue pirates ? But Ace is also from East Blue ??? Does it mean that Ace didn't reach 300 millions before WB took him in his crew ? Or that no one knows where he comes from ? Also it's strange that WG wants to kill any children of past pirates, but they don't care about Garp being the father of the most wanted one, the grandfather of Luffy, and the one who took care of young Ace ?
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Also it's strange that WG wants to kill any children of past pirates,
they did it to stop gold rogers bloodline because he was one of the most dangerous enemies they had.
but they don't care about Garp being the father of the most wanted one, the grandfather of Luffy, and the one who took care of young Ace ?
Garp is a hero of the marines. His whole life he fought against numerous pirates. Killing him or locking him in ID won't help the marines.
Besides, do we know if everyone in the marines know that garp saved aces life?Here also from chapter 0:
! garps position gives him some privileges.
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I think its time for Luffy to get an actual hit on an admiral. I'm sure Luffy will get an actual fight before the war is over (Sentoumaru or Kuma) but I think Luffy could hit one of the admirals at least, followed by Whitebeard, Marco and Joz showing up to be awesome.
Technically spoken Luffy landed a hit at an Admiral the very first time he fought one. Remember how he punched Aokiji in the stomach? That's a direct hit (since we've seen what happens when Kuzan activas his Logia defense). It's just that Aokiji was that strong even with his DF ability to not be hurt by it.
garps position gives him some privileges.
This is actually something that intregues me. Doesn't Aokiji do what he wants too albeit being an higher rank then Garp. I mean on his first appearance the Gorosei weren't happy with him going "sightseeing" with his bike again, which kinda says that he does what he wants. Don't really see why Garp couldn't act the same as Admiral.
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Technically spoken Luffy landed a hit at an Admiral the very first time he fought one. Remember how he punched Aokiji in the stomach? That's a direct hit (since we've seen what happens when Kuzan activas his Logia defense). It's just that Aokiji was that strong even with his DF ability to not be hurt by it.
That doesn't really count. Ao Kiji let Luffy hit him to freeze his arm. Luffy needs to punch an Admiral in the face with no repercussions except an Admiral with a bleeding lip.
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This is actually something that intregues me. Doesn't Aokiji do what he wants too albeit being an higher rank then Garp. I mean on his first appearance the Gorosei weren't happy with him going "sightseeing" with his bike again, which kinda says that he does what he wants. Don't really see why Garp couldn't act the same as Admiral.
Aokiji definitely learned from his master. On the other hands i think vice admirals have much more freedom than admirals… Which is what garp wanted. A high position but enough freedom...
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That doesn't really count. Ao Kiji let Luffy hit him to freeze his arm. Luffy needs to punch an Admiral in the face with no repercussions except an Admiral with a bleeding lip.
I was just saying that he landed a hit, not whether it was effective or not.
Aokiji definitely learned from his master. On the other hands i think vice admirals have much more freedom than admirals…
I wonder where this Garp being Kuzan's master comes from. The only thing we've seen in chapter 0 was that Kuzan commented on how cool Garp is. Unless I've missed something else or the scanslations are messy that alone isn't enough to convince me that he's serving directly under Garp.
Which is what garp wanted. A high position but enough freedom…
You can see it in this war actually. The admirals can't just leave the plattform unprotected. They have the highest responsibility.I'd say that the reason is their battle power and not their rank. Furthermore, unlike Garp and Sengoku each Admiral has left the his position in front of the plattform at least once.
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btw if whitebeard dies how do you think they will handle his body? will they bury him at some island or will they cremate him? will they cremate him viking style? one thing we have not seen in one piece is a pirate funeral. wonder how many pirates would attend it. or do you think oda will just do all of that off screen?
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more importantly, who will eat his df when it grows again?
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Luffy will get reinforcments thats sure.
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I wonder where this Garp being Kuzan's master comes from. The only thing we've seen in chapter 0 was that Kuzan commented on how cool Garp is. Unless I've missed something else or the scanslations are messy that alone isn't enough to convince me that he's serving directly under Garp.
I think MagneticMonkey meant how Aokiji is following Garp's example (doing what he wants to do and not what his superiors want him to) and not that he was serving under Garp. :P
Garp, the Master of disobedience! Inspiring the new Marine generations~ :'D
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more importantly, who will eat his df when it grows again?
Maybe the next arc will be the race of trying to protect that new possible fruit of getting in the hands of the marines or something like that and that would be the perfect time for Vegapunk to appear in the story… just talking tho... not get serious about it.
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OT: it was said in some older chapter that Luffy has the highest bounty of any East Blue pirates ? But Ace is also from East Blue ??? Does it mean that Ace didn't reach 300 millions before WB took him in his crew ? Or that no one knows where he comes from ?
Ace was actually born in South Blue, so even though he was raised in East Blue, maybe that allows for a loophole there.
http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-550/page013.html
Although I'm still wondering about Dragon.Also it's strange that WG wants to kill any children of past pirates, but they don't care about Garp being the father of the most wanted one, the grandfather of Luffy, and the one who took care of young Ace ?
It's Garp's title as "Hero of the Marines" that keeps him safe.
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I think MagneticMonkey meant how Aokiji is following Garp's example (doing what he wants to do and not what his superiors want him to) and not that he was serving under Garp. :P
Garp, the Master of disobedience! Inspiring the new Marine generations~ :'D
But I've seen it several times mentioned now that people have it as Kuzan being a direct subordinate of Garp so I was wondering where that came from. Lost in translation or simply a misinterpretation?
Ace was actually born in South Blue, so even though he was raised in East Blue, maybe that allows for a loophole there.
http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-550/page013.html
Although I'm still wondering about Dragon.I'm quite sure that this allows for a loophole since Oda was careful enough to state that the Marines have a lack of information on Ace's history:
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/552/06/As far as Dragon is concerned - Well since he's not a pirate he can still have a higher bounty then Luffy and yet Luffy having the highest pirate bounty of East Blue. Which leaves me with a question: Was it really said that Luffy had the highest East Blue bounty ever or is it just currently the highest (for a pirate)?
Also there's the possibility that people simply don't know where Dragon is from. I mean even his comrades don't seem to know where he's from (Ivankov actually speculated about it but he didn't know it).
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Hmmm I can't really remember something like that being mentioned. I only remember Kuzan saying that he owed Garp a favor but nothing more than that. Maybe there was a mistranslation of that somewhere?
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Hmmm I can't really remember something like that being mentioned. I only remember Kuzan saying that he owed Garp a favor but nothing more than that. Maybe there was a mistranslation of that somewhere?
That's a mistranslation. Aokiji said he owed Luffy a favor for dealing with Croc's mess in Alabaster Kingdom. Regarding Garp, Kuzan said that they were alike.
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I don't mind that someone dead survived that time.Oars looks big and strong,so for me that is quite okay that he is alive.Even if he dies in the end of arc.
I'm more interested in Luffy's plan and what he asked from Iva-san.Surely, the strategy of forcing(hmmm..can we call that forcing?) AoKiji in freezing mast and then breaking it onto the Admirals is splendid for Luffy.But judging how he is still cold headed(most likely he learned that from Shabondy and prison) that IS a little weak.I thought that the sea water that splashed with Luffy in the plaza would get on the Admirals and they would become solid(but will not be aware of that,perhaps) for the icy wood.But seeing it passing through them made me wonder if that is ALL Luffy planned beforehand. -
I'm quite sure that this allows for a loophole since Oda was careful enough to state that the Marines have a lack of information on Ace's history:
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/552/06/Yes, but Sengoku knew by the time that Luffy was a pirate tht Ace was Roger's son and thus was born in South Blue.
As far as Dragon is concerned - Well since he's not a pirate he can still have a higher bounty then Luffy and yet Luffy having the highest pirate bounty of East Blue. Which leaves me with a question: Was it really said that Luffy had the highest East Blue bounty ever or is it just currently the highest (for a pirate)?
Also there's the possibility that people simply don't know where Dragon is from. I mean even his comrades don't seem to know where he's from (Ivankov actually speculated about it but he didn't know it).
When Luffy got his first bounty, the chapter title was "Greatest Evil of the East".
http://www.mangascreener.com/stephen/onepiece/op-v11c096.txt
Then when he got his third bounty, the people of Fuschia Village called him that.Villagers: Party tiiime!!
We're havin' a party today!!
The most expensive man in all the east!! 300 million!!
A toast to our little Luffy!!
http://www.mangascreener.com/stephen/onepiece/chapter440.txt
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@Fire Fist:
That's a mistranslation. Aokiji said he owed Luffy a favor for dealing with Croc's mess in Alabaster Kingdom. Regarding Garp, Kuzan said that they were alike.
Ooooh~ You are right, my bad!
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As far as Dragon is concerned - Well since he's not a pirate he can still have a higher bounty then Luffy and yet Luffy having the highest pirate bounty of East Blue. Which leaves me with a question: Was it really said that Luffy had the highest East Blue bounty ever or is it just currently the highest (for a pirate)?
Also there's the possibility that people simply don't know where Dragon is from. I mean even his comrades don't seem to know where he's from (Ivankov actually speculated about it but he didn't know it).
it was said that luffy has the highest (currently) bounty in east blue and so that he was to this time the most wanted man in east blue..
nothing said about the record in east blue.but in east blue it
s hard to get a high bounty cause there are rly just a few "strong pirates" and i don
t think there is anything important to destroy which would the WG see as a reason to think a person is rly dangerous.so gathering high bountys in east blue is rly difficult and i also think that dragon didn
t do much there to make attention to him..he sure has now many things going on in east blue by the revolutionarys but i think he earned his status on the grand line and not before. he is such a mysteriuos man, that near to no infos are known of the public of him.. so that he was born in east blue is sure a mystery maybe sengoku,garp and some other involved know about. but the public doesn
t know a thing about him..just his name and that he is a revolutionary.Smoker was just at loguetown cause it`s an important place for the marines and history(smoker is sure many classes to strong for this blue)
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@Kairouseki:
I'm just going to say that I love that cool-face avatar of Sengoku whoever it is that it belongs to.
Akainu being Paramecia wouldn't really make very much sense. The other Admirals are all Logias plus when he first used his power it looked like he was turning into magma, not creating it.
in my eyes it seemed mor like he was coated in magma
Maybe the next arc will be the race of trying to protect that new possible fruit of getting in the hands of the marines or something like that and that would be the perfect time for Vegapunk to appear in the story… just talking tho... not get serious about it.
If Vegapunk comes then it will be Kabuto that eats the Gura Gura No Mi :ninja:
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in my eyes it seemed mor like he was coated in magma
If Vegapunk comes then it will be Kabuto that eats the Gura Gura No Mi :ninja:
Usopp's weapon? So everytime Usopp shoots a shot, it will create a ripple-like Quake effect?
… This isn't Steel Ball Run.