I wouldn't be surprised if next chapter Mihawk reveals that he couldn't help but hold back on Luffy since he was unarmed, it would make sense considering that Mihawk wouldn't fight Shanks due to him losing an arm. Hell we've yet to even see one named attack from him.
Chapter 561 "Luffy vs Hawkeye" Discussion
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what kind of response is that?! …i think i liked you better when you were still a tiny pink girl. (made me laugh though)
She will come back after I defeat Prinny Baal, should be in a few days depending on how much slacking I do. (the tiny pink girl is etna from the disgaea game) But if blackbeard makes an appearance in the manga, he's back.
i just consider the PXs fodder and see the marines crumble like a cooky when they even barely survive WB's fleat. i see retaliation and profiteers in the near future such as the Yonkou.
Ah. Your previous post was sarcasm but it made no sense to me. Now it does, because you really believe that the PX army is just fodder? They are only fodder to whitebeard basically, with some others that can take them, like Marco, Jozu and probably some NW captains. To the rest, they are TOUGH. And we don't know what further modifications they might have gotten since Shabondy. (I think they sent just earlier prototypes there) When they start bombarding the bay, it should be devastating!
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So what did dispersing and destroying ships have to do with a PX army showing up?
Edit- Only thing I can see is not being all in one place for one pacifista beam to take out thousands of pirates.
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I agree with this. The world's strongest swordsman's display has been weak. He got blocked by a Third division captain, He couldn't completely cut Luffy [And he even said he wasn't going to show any mercy] now he is being stalled by a fifth division captain. Mihawk hasn't really done anything to seperate himself from the pack and his attacks were nothing special.
Neither a fan nor a hater of mihawk, I have to say I liked him in this chapter. Luffy ran FAR away once he caught a glimpse of Mihawk, but Mihawk caught on very fast, and his slash attacks have a massive range. Luffy's speed and reflexes weren't enough to save him from Mihawk, so Luffy had to awaken his haki that allowed him to dodge all those attacks. And then the Buggy intermezzo, and finally Vista shows up, who will be no problem for him. They had to bring in a 5th commander just to have someone who can temporarily hold off Mihawk. I'd say Mihawk is a real beast!
Btw I hope we will see more haki awakenings.. next chapter Luffy can be surprised at reflecting a pacifista's (or kizaru's) laser!
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@Sesshy:So what did dispersing and destroying ships have to do with a PX army showing up?
Edit- Only thing I can see is not being all in one place for one pacifista beam to take out thousands of pirates.
It's a bitconfusing for me aswell, but my take on it is that WB noticed that all pirates were being lured onto the bay (which Aokiji conveniently froze, then took off) so he probably thought it were the battleships that were gonna bombard them, but he was wrong on that. It was Kumabots
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My One Piece theory based on this chapter
theory is: the pacifista are gonna wipe out everyone, except luffy, maybe buggy, n ace. then, it will be a sort of dark ages, star wars like, with the pacifista as storm troopers. one piece will take a naruto approach: 2 year fast forward. thats when the final push for one piece/raftel arc will happen.
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& Mihawk was disappointed,luffy didn't dodge the first shot,
but acknowledge,that he has a strange ability to make everyone around him an ally,
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My One Piece theory based on this chapter
theory is: the pacifista are gonna wipe out everyone, except luffy, maybe buggy, n ace. then, it will be a sort of dark ages, star wars like, with the pacifista as storm troopers. one piece will take a naruto approach: 2 year fast forward. thats when the final push for one piece/raftel arc will happen.
I would hate that.
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the most boring chapter ever
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Up till now i'm still not sure what Sengoku's plan is.
@Crossword:Mihawk used some kind of low-flying, spiral air slash move that cut Luffy up a bit, before hitting him with another slash that knocked him into some rubble.
I think he means the page before that.
@123: That steam seems like the one Luffy has whenever he uses Gear: 2nd.
Yup its the page that Vanessa says.Thanks so much people =)
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As far as I know, Luffy's main goal is to save Ace not to fight those big time marines out there or any Shicibukai members.
A fight he will never ever win with his actual strength level. I already said that luffy isn't there to fight strong guys, he avoids the fights and is only concerned about saving ace. But it doesn't change the fact that he is an "ant"?
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My One Piece theory based on this chapter
theory is: the pacifista are gonna wipe out everyone, except luffy, maybe buggy, n ace. then, it will be a sort of dark ages, star wars like, with the pacifista as storm troopers. one piece will take a naruto approach: 2 year fast forward. thats when the final push for one piece/raftel arc will happen.
A time skip? Never considered that but…hell anything could happen.
What I think will happen is the both the pirates and the marines out there fighting are going to all get slaughtered by the pacifistas. Of course the big name marines will stay out of the way(admirals, vice admirals), but everyone else is about to get slaughtered.
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So how do you guys think WB will respond to the PX-army? I think this puts him at a disadvantage and that WB should be the next one to show his trumpcard, if he has one.
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why is the strongest man standing and watching while his allies fight?whitebeard show us your strenght before the war ends,please:sad:
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Cuz he is the commander and has to give orders… Like Sengoku
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Cuz he is the commander and has to give orders… Like Sengoku
he has a denden mushi.he can give orders from everywhere
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Just finished re-reading the chapter. The binktopia scan is leagues better than that piece of scan shit that was up on onemanga. Failhawk was impressive. The way he was able to see Luffy from afar and still hit him while avoiding hitting the two guys that was fighting was great. He also cut a huge ass Glacier in half when it was really far away from him. Poor Buggy. His DF made him immune against Failhawk cutting. If he didn't blow himself up Buggy's Flashy Coming Out Show to the World would of been televised.
Croc's still a badass. Told Flamingo to Fuck Off and then blew him and Jozu away at the same time. Good to see that Kizaru wasn't standing around since he was shown fighting in against some spear guy in one of the panels. Aokoji had half his face in ice show he's probably in the middle of a battle as well. Which would explain why the Admiral's haven't been trying to own Luffy since they're busy doing there own things.
Good to see Luffy is still a idiot. Mihawk says only a fool would not know who Vista is. Then it cuts to Luffy running away wondering who that old man that saved him was. Looks like Luffy is subconsciously starting to tapped into his haki abilities or the mantra/precog parts of it. You see Luffy about to release a Gomu Gomu no Jet Bazooka but when he's halfway through the Baz part of the attack, he somehow sees that his arm will get cut. So he cancels out the attack immediately right after. Which is inline with Mantra or Sandersonia from AL who are able to see what someone is going to do before it happens. Oda just went with a first person view this time since we were seeing the vision through how Luffy saw it.
As for Sengoku's plan. The PX army seems to be only a part of it. When Sengoku was told that final preparations were complete he asked if that included the Bay plan (PX Army) as well so it's more to it than just them. They're mostly the trump card that'll put the final parts of the plan into motion. Since Sengoku asked to turn off the visuals. He probably did it for two reasons. The marines will look weak for executing Ace early or they are planning a PX type Buster Call that'll just blow up the bay without regard for collateral damage getting marines caught in the blast as well. The thing about the PX though is since Luffy has experience fighting them in SA. He could tell the others that they are weak to attacks in the mouth. Which should make them easier to beat.
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he has a denden mushi.he can give orders from everywhere
Because it's that easy to oversee the battlefield from the middle huh? WB has the perfect position to supervise his troops. He is not only feared because of his quake abilities but also because he has a lot of knowledge about how to fight. This is a war not meant to be win by just jumping in wrecking havoc. Even if he just jumps it would increase the chances to be surrounded and give the marines the best opportunity to take his head.
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He made a 1000+ foot slice through a frozen solid wave thousands of feet away and he sucks….yep.
So people really think Luffy was dodging using nothing but luck&reflexes?
the way it was shown was just awful. Look at Rurouni Kenshin (the manga, not the anime), that's how sword battles should look. That's what I was expecting when Mihawk came into action.
Also, naming WBs 5th commander after a very bad operating system is also kind of stupid.
Buggy's facial expression on page 9 (and 11, after Mihawk reflects the bomb) is priceless though.
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Because it's that easy to oversee the battlefield from the middle huh? WB has the perfect position to supervise his troops. He is not only feared because of his quake abilities but also because he has a lot of knowledge about how to fight. This is a war not meant to be win by just jumping in wrecking havoc. Even if he just jumps it would increase the chances to be surrounded and give the marines the best opportunity to take his head.
yes and not.its true that he can supervise.but his men are fighting with too many powerful marines.the oversee is meaningless if his troops clearly loose.they just need him in the fight
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yes and not.its true that he can supervise.but his men are fighting with too many powerful marines.the oversee is meaningless if his troops clearly loose.they just need him in the fight
What is too many? Till now it wasn't clear who has the upper hand. Sengoku plan might shift the balance towards the marines. Which would mean WB has to counter.
It's important to see what happens on the battlefield to coordinate the troops. WB is the head of his army. Which means his place is exactly where he is now. -
Still no sight of Moria… Was he really owned that hard? xD
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Damn Mihwak is a real monster. If he had slashed lower it looks like he could have taken out a significant portion of all fighters
I wonder how the Pacifistas will be dealt with. For some reason I see a bit attack destroying all of them maybe Blackbeard sucking them in or something similiar rather then many individual fights
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@Usopp:
Also, naming WBs 5th commander after a very bad operating system is also kind of stupid.
Look up the meaning of the word "Vista" sometime… You'll soon kick yourself.
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http://www.thefreedictionary.com/VistaAfter seeing Mihawk's abilties, his name is quite suitable.
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worse case scenario..Dragon will come with HIS army…XD
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I can see Buggy taking the credit for WB"s death with the cameras off.
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Look up the meaning of the word "Vista" sometime… You'll soon kick yourself.
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http://www.thefreedictionary.com/VistaAfter seeing Mihawk's abilties, his name is quite suitable.
Meh, he probably had a nasty experience with the operating system. Maybe XP or 7 as a name would have satisfied him.
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@Mark:
wow i never thought there's alot of mihawk haters here
I'm not surprised. Wherever there are obnoxious fans of a character, equally obnoxious contrarians will step forward in reaction. It's just unfortunate people respond more to idiots on forums than to actual happenings in the story.
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iam curious how many of the WB commanders we will see in the end…so far we had 1-5
pacifista -armee look s damn impressive..so fucking many :blink:
now all gates are open and it rly gotten worser than before..unbelievable..and DON just looks awesome on jozu`s back wuhahaha:happy::happy:
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I dont have anything with Mihawk, I cant judge him he really hasnt a character at all, but his fanbase is annoying as hell !
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Do you think Doflamingo and Jozu survived the Sables?
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Do you think Doflamingo and Jozu survived the Sables?
No, it's pretty clear at this point that they're dead.
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The PX Army with some Star Wars music :P
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I was with you up until this point. In my opinion, Luffy will be too overcome with grief to start becoming a soulless monster like that. In addition, both he and Ace knew the risks of becoming pirates when they chose that path and I sincerely doubt that Luffy would blindly murder a shit ton of blameless marines that were only doing their job in his grief.
Causing pain and murdering are 2 different things - Luffy accepts that people will die but I don't think I have seen him kill anyone. He just beats them senseless, this is what I think will happen the anger he will have will be dished out on the WG maybe not to defeat them but to allow WB to leave with his crew. The battle will have losses on both sides.
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how many millions over millions of berry stands in front of the battlefield..
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Oh men!!! This is abig big battle i love it!!!!!!
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right forgot about him…
but another question.
is the 4th division commander placed filled again..
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That's a good point, I would assume it's filled but we don't know.
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Look up the meaning of the word "Vista" sometime… You'll soon kick yourself.
It can't be a coincidence a guy named 'Vista' shows up the day that the successor to windows vista was officially released.
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@Usopp:
It can't be a coincidence a guy named 'Vista' shows up the day that the successor to windows vista was officially released.
Actually, it can.
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@Usopp:
It can't be a coincidence a guy named 'Vista' shows up the day that the successor to windows vista was officially released.
Actually it can be seeing as these chapters are made 3 weeks in advance.
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@Usopp:
It can't be a coincidence a guy named 'Vista' shows up the day that the successor to windows vista was officially released.
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s just a shitty translation…wouldn
t be the first mistake
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Maybe Vista have the upgrade no mi and will evolve into Seven
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Vista in spanish is Vision. And someone who has a good vision have a hawk eye or eagle eye. This fight is very ironic.
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@Thousand:
Actually it can be seeing as these chapters are made 3 weeks in advance.
and the release date was a surprise?
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Maybe Vista have the upgrade no mi and will evolve into Seven
LOL good one.
But maybe he has servicepack no mi.
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LOL good one.
But maybe he has servicepack no mi.
Then again windows 7 is a glorified service pack version of vista.