Chapter 557 "Luffy and Whitebeard" Discussion

Neomaster121

i think we can now more assume that 1 yonkou and his crew is close to be equal in power to the 3 admirals and 7 shichibukai..
or else this WAR! wouldnt be rly a bother for the marines and WG.. the yonkous we cant rly see as one force cause they dont have much contact to each other and they are villains to each other… soin conclusion the 3 admirals and 7 shichibukai are the forces to control the power of the yonkou, but when all 4 yonkous would form a alliance the WG and the marines wouldnt stand a chance!

actually i tihnk this is mainly for wb

if it was kaidou or the other one i don't think the marines would be as worried

Don Quichotte De Flamingo

^^ yeah WB should be considered the strongest so it could be more right the way you say it…
BUT to be called a yonkou like WB you sure have to be also nearly as much power as he has..
think about shanks...he sure is damn strong, when he even has no worries to fight against WB on WBs ship! and also shanks crew should be on a level like WBs crew...
so i think the most problems sure are from WB for the marines and the WG but also the other yonkous should be so strong that the 3 admirals and the shichibukai wouldn`t be able to handle to other yonkous other than WB.

Neomaster121

@Don:

^^ yeah WB should be considered the strongest so it could be more right the way you say it…
BUT to be called a yonkou like WB you sure have to be also nearly as much power as he has..
think about shanks...he sure is damn strong, when he even has no worries to fight against WB on WBs ship! and also shanks crew should be on a level like WBs crew...
so i think the most problems sure are from WB for the marines and the WG but also the other yonkous should be so strong that the 3 admirals and the shichibukai wouldn`t be able to handle to other yonkous other than WB.

yea also maybe the marines new the wb had some control and was able to get several other great new world pirates to help him out

for all we know shanks only has 1 main crew
and no matter how strong shanks is with 1 main crew they'd be less worried

i'd think maybe with te other yonkou barring shanks and marines wouldn't need to bring all the major forces as they did for this war

GaaraofTheDesert

I wonder which side will Croc choose …..

wintergt

(…)
The "emperors" are their own group, doing as they please and not paying the government and so are the enemy. The Marines as the "good guys"want to stop both groups, but doesn't go after the shichibukai due to being under by the government.

But each group, as they are, are the same in power. However if something was to change like the death of a member of a group, that could change things then that group could actually lose their standing and be over taken by one of the other remaining groups!!!!!…

It would make more sense if the marines are equal to the shichibukai are equal to ONE yonkou. Since the yonkou aren't actually a group, they are competitors with one another.
Otherwise, WB being just 1/4th of the yonkou group, is up against the marines + the shichibukai, and it doesn't seem like he is outclassed that bad..

jennaiel

I think the Strawhats main opposition in the new world would be Kaidou and BB. Kaidou has been hyped up ever since Moria mentioned him . The 4th yonkou could be an ally if the theory that it is Lola's mom is true.

Of course this all too far ahead from the present

GaaraofTheDesert

That WB's ally looks more like Lola's mom…all the yonkou seem male to me.

Neomaster121

@jennaiel:

I think the Strawhats main opposition in the new world would be Kaidou and BB. Kaidou has been hyped up ever since Moria mentioned him . The 4th yonkou could be an ally if the theory that it is Lola's mom is true.

Of course this all too far ahead from the present

kinda already have shanks as an ally

NANLIT

@Neomaster121:

kinda already have shanks as an ally

What's wrong with being allies with more than 1 of the Yonkou?

Neomaster121

@NANLIT:

What's wrong with being allies with more than 1 of the Yonkou?

well it wb survives

i'm sure wb would become an ally (well help luffy out due to ace)

plus shanks

so we really saying 3 of the 4 yonkou will be luffy allies

for me shanks will be enough mking it 1 o 3 (wb will die in my opinion)

Don Quichotte De Flamingo

@Neomaster121:

yea also maybe the marines new the wb had some control and was able to get several other great new world pirates to help him out

for all we know shanks only has 1 main crew
and no matter how strong shanks is with 1 main crew they'd be less worried

i'd think maybe with te other yonkou barring shanks and marines wouldn't need to bring all the major forces as they did for this war

i think we can assume that also shanks has a lot of other pirates crew who follow him in a WAR!..(considering his personality)
also these are mostly just small fries for those who are RLY fighting this WAR!:..
i dont think we will see a new world captn fighting in the end an admiral…their are more for those smaller marines and such work...sure needed but definitely shanks crew could also do that alone..but would need a longer time...and the big guys of the crew would be easier to attack in that way

wintergt

I hope the fourth yonkou is the infamous pirate with the peg leg. (that Oda said he was saving for someone special) And that he becomes the strongest when WB dies. So after Luffy travels to the new world, and gets rid of Doflamingo and maybe some other local pirate hoodlum, he'll have to fight the 4th yonkou at the end. The final battle of the manga will ofcourse be on raftel, Luffy vs Blackbeard.

(to cut into Doflamingo's "new era" stuff.. the 4th yonkou will take out Kaido after WB dies.. that is why Kaido didn't want WB to go save ace, he knew he was in trouble)

Don Quichotte De Flamingo

@wintergt:

The final battle of the manga will ofcourse be on raftel, Luffy vs Blackbeard

that`s maybe toooooooo obvious…
but it would sure perfectly fit
but the end battle could also be a inner battle if luffy should reveal the true history or something in that way...

jakalox

why is it that spoilers not posted here anymore?

h3h3h3

@wintergt:

It would make more sense if the marines are equal to the shichibukai are equal to ONE yonkou. Since the yonkou aren't actually a group, they are competitors with one another.
Otherwise, WB being just 1/4th of the yonkou group, is up against the marines + the shichibukai, and it doesn't seem like he is outclassed that bad..

He is outclassed that bad but this is Whitebeard. All powers are equal anything else is bullshit.

Charzonsos

@wintergt:

I hope the fourth yonkou is the infamous pirate with the peg leg. (that Oda said he was saving for someone special) And that he becomes the strongest when WB dies. So after Luffy travels to the new world, and gets rid of Doflamingo and maybe some other local pirate hoodlum, he'll have to fight the 4th yonkou at the end. The final battle of the manga will ofcourse be on raftel, Luffy vs Blackbeard.

(to cut into Doflamingo's "new era" stuff.. the 4th yonkou will take out Kaido after WB dies.. that is why Kaido didn't want WB to go save ace, he knew he was in trouble)

I thought he was saving someone with an eye patch for someone special?

Darkstorm

@jakalox:

why is it that spoilers not posted here anymore?

The spoiler subforum still exists, you just can't see it unless you're logged in.

HaxeyeMihawk

I wonder if Nja is on a business trip?

Blackbeast

@Kairouseki:

Besides, there was already a timeskip in the beginning of the story.

huh? when? …..

mstarsup5

@Blackbeast:

huh? when? …..

First chapter…

Darkstorm

Child Luffy -> Teen Luffy

huron

@Darkstorm:

The spoiler subforum still exists, you just can't see it unless you're logged in.

i just found a new one on mh
i hope its the true one

Norman

The "new one" is actually the same as the previous one.

huron

@Norman:

The "new one" is actually the same as the previous one.

well i found 2 "new ones" on mh lol

Norman

:P That other "new one" wasn't there when I send that post.
No more spoiler talk here now.

wintergt

These are real guys, they are all similar from different sources, and there is now also a script (or part of it) out. Plus they all make sense.

Hiroy

Luffy could be using his sweat to stop Croc. He done it before.

MagneticMonkey

or it was his blood?

wintergt

@Hiroy:

Luffy could be using his sweat to stop Croc. He done it before.

Why would he need sweat to beat aokiji? just his fists will do

KaiPirinha

@wintergt:

These are real guys, they are all similar from different sources, and there is now also a script (or part of it) out. Plus they all make sense.

Great. Hope someone open the spoiler thread now.

Jdanzi

Reading the mangahelpers discussion threads is so hilarious, so many people have less than no clue. Makes people like Syler look informed.

Hekti

@KaiPirinha:

Great. Hope someone open the spoiler thread now.

Yeah true … at least I understand a little of the spoiler xD

Jadosra

@Zik:

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2330/1578642586_154006b91b.jpg

"Someone doesnt like One Piece?
WELL, HE HAS A DIFFERENT OPINION FROM ME, SO HE IS OBVIOUSLY AN IDIOT/A CLOWN"

vlad Dracul

where the heck is the spoiler section? xD

Mmod

Heh, true spoilers are out. Why not opening the spoiler thread?

vlad Dracul

okay found it xD

silasyl

Edit: Waiting 16 times.

KaiPirinha

@Hekti:

Yeah true … at least I understand a little of the spoiler xD

You are lucky. I tried the Babelshit. LOL

"White self-depreciation" -> I think that should be Whitebeard.

Jadosra

Could you guys stop talking about spoilers in this thread?
Thank you very much

Norman

Really. No talking about the spoilers outside the spoiler threads.

HaxeyeMihawk

It's easier to get people to stay on topic by actually raising a discussion point. :/

Jadosra

Blackbeard is awesome.
Discuss

KaiPirinha

This post is deleted!

brennen.exe

@Jadosra:

Blackbeard is awesome. Discuss.

Stop discussing fake spoilers Jadosra. For everyone else, stop discussing anything that is or relates to the possibility or fact that someone somewhere posted something that could be seen as anything that could be said to be similar to or vaguely reminiscent of the word 'spoiler'. Don't try to wiggle through, around, over, or under that either. sets phaser to stun

UsoppSpell

@brennen.exe:

Stop discussing fake spoilers Jadosra. For everyone else, stop discussing anything that is or relates to anything regarding the word 'spoiler'. Don't try to wiggle through, around, over, or under that either. sets phaser to stun

TREKKIES SUCK!:getlost:

Except in the big bang theory. Love that show

HaxeyeMihawk

@brennen.exe:

Stop discussing fake spoilers Jadosra. For everyone else, stop discussing anything that is or relates to the possibility or fact that someone somewhere posted something that could be seen as anything that could be said to be similar to or vaguely reminiscent of the word 'spoiler'. Don't try to wiggle through, around, over, or under that either. sets phaser to stun

Insert Kairouseki's exploding head gif

dirt monkey AL

@brennen.exe:

Stop discussing fake spoilers Jadosra. For everyone else, stop discussing anything that is or relates to the possibility or fact that someone somewhere posted something that could be seen as anything that could be said to be similar to or vaguely reminiscent of the word 'spoiler'. Don't try to wiggle through, around, over, or under that either. sets phaser to stun

longer and harder

UsoppSpell

I saw some boilers in a steamboat engine once, they were pretty neat.

LightningAce

@UsoppSpell:

I saw some boilers in a steamboat engine once, they were pretty neat.

Fascinating. 16 Char

SMUDGE

@brennen.exe:

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Why, is the BAN setting broken?

Anyway, I was wondering about the whole Kuma scenario about to occur. As we all know he stated that he wouldn't see Luffy again, but is clearly about to come into to contact with him in the next few chapters, how can this be?

(I thought perhaps it had something to do with Kuma being completed by Vegapunk.)

So does anyone has a suggestion about what might happen.