alright im 99.99% sure that frankie will join. the reason? EVERY character that has joined so far has had a flashback. zoro had his childhood promis, sanji had his past with sef, usopp had the flashback with his dad leaving, nami had a flashback with her mother and arlong, and chopper had his flashback with dr hilruck. the only member whos questionable is robin and she hasnt officially joined yet. Franky has had a flashback and is the only one out of the people in this arc to have one.
However who knows, maybe paulie will have a flashback :P thats my theory…u can disagree with it if u want
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the only member whos questionable is robin and she hasnt officially joined yet.
True. This arc is what Arlong Park was for Nami. Nami didn't join for real until the end of Arlong Park and we really didn't know anything about her until that arc, the same is happening to Robin in this one.
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Originally posted by Kiden4911@Jul 14 2005, 09:53 PM
alright im 99.99% sure that frankie will join. the reason? EVERY character that has joined so far has had a flashback. zoro had his childhood promis, sanji had his past with sef, usopp had the flashback with his dad leaving, nami had a flashback with her mother and arlong, and chopper had his flashback with dr hilruck. the only member whos questionable is robin and she hasnt officially joined yet. Franky has had a flashback and is the only one out of the people in this arc to have one.
However who knows, maybe paulie will have a flashback :P thats my theory…u can disagree with it if u want
[snapback]89488[/snapback]Here's the thing though… all of these flashbacks took place near the end of the arc, or at the end of the arc. Sanji's came up when he was fighting Pearl/Gin, Zoro's was afer he'd joined, Usopp's was at the dead end of the arc, Nami's was right before the much kicking of fish tail, and I cant remember where exactly Chopper's was... but I think it was close to the end. Also, with all these flashbacks, barring Zoro's, someone else is telling it as a story. Franky's flashback is an actual flashback rather than someone telling their story. If you're wanting to go buy what Oda's done in the past, Franky's flashback doesn't really fit in with the other crewmembers' flashbacks.
There's still time for Paulie to have a flash back... heck, it may not even be until the end of the arc, while he's fighting his ex-friends, that we see one for him. And if his flashback is while he's fighting against CP9... that would be more inline with the rest of the crew flashbacks.
Nothing's set in stone, who's to say Oda will do the same thing he always does? It could be either of them... or it could be neither of them. I'm not convinced Franky willl join over Paulie... there's still time. But that's just my opinion.
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Sanji's was an actual flashback too, I think. Just wanted to point that out.
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Originally posted by Konis+Jul 15 2005, 09:22 AM–>QUOTE(Konis @ Jul 15 2005, 09:22 AM)
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It'll be untypical either way I think. Usually there's one (big) flash-back per arc right? Now we've already had one.. plus if Robin is gonna rejoin, she'll need to show her flashback too.. and if Paulie is gonna join, he'll need to share his. Seems like too many flashbacks XD. (or maybe oda is really gonna take Robin away from us for a while…)
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I truly believe that they will get a shipwright. Luffy clearly stated that they will get one as friend. You believe in Luffy, do you? So option no. 3 is a "NO".
Both of them joining is also a NO. I don't see it happening. I don't want one exceeds in their character development and the other one is left behind.
Paulie? I don't think he'd join. You know, the Strawhats could be the best among their fields. Such as greatest swordsman, cook, doctor etc. While I don't think Paulie could. Galley La is a group of shipwrights right? Each one has their own specialty: carpentry, sawyer, mast etc. Paulie's specialty is on the mast/rigging. I don't think he could also do better on the other parts.
My bet is on Franky. Oda already gave us a lot of hints on why he is the next one to join. The dream, flashback, weakness, etc. Yeah, I know it's been said a lot.
In the soon to be released game "Fighting for One Piece". All the characters there have something in common. They're either a StrawHat or a Logia user except for Franky. The only fitting category that Franky could be in is in the SH of course. If the game is not enough to prove that he could be the new member, why is he there? He's not even the main villain in W7. Why didn't they include Paulie and/or Lucci.
Eventhough my bet is on Franky, I'm just 98% sure. The other 2% is….
Most SH's skill names has a signature something on it. Much like a formula or uniformity..
Luffy- Gomu Gomu + "Attack"
Zoro- mostly animal names
Nami- "Weather" + Tempo
Usopp- "Ammunition type" + Star
Sanji- mostly parts of the body in French
Chopper- "Transformation type" + Point
Robin- "Spanish number" + FleurFranky's skill names are random. At first I thought it would be "Attack + direction" (Strong Right & Weapon Left). In his fight with Nero, he's skill names doesn't have similarity with the other attacks. I hope skill names doesn't matter.
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What doesn't matter is the game. :P The fact that they have random Logia users instead of Lucci while based on Water Seven should say something. Not that we've even seen the final roster.
But really, the game isn't being made by Oda, the only person who has a say in who joins.
Originally Posted by Battle Franky
Bad move, bub!
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Originally posted by Buccaneer@Jul 16 2005, 06:17 PM
…Oda, the only person who has a say in who joins.Besides his editor, of course :P.
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But how the heck you all like franky?
Ok, he is quite nice at the beginning, and he have an interesting past to, but…
He is so freaking horrible!Stupid-weird-looking arms.
Stupid-ugly-weird-looking nose.
Stupid-ultra-ugly-weird-looking chin.And he wear only a pair of pants!
Neither the beauty of both Robin and Nami could balance is uglyness...
Geez... I don't wanna need to wash my eyes with bleach every time I read a new OP's chapter -_-
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Originally posted by Nico Robin Fan@Jul 16 2005, 09:44 AM
**But how the heck you all like franky?Ok, he is quite nice at the beginning, and he have an interesting past to, but…
He is so freaking horrible!Stupid-weird-looking arms.
Stupid-ugly-weird-looking nose.
Stupid-ultra-ugly-weird-looking chin.And he wear only a pair of pants!
Neither the beauty of both Robin and Nami could balance is uglyness...
Geez... I don't wanna need to wash my eyes with bleach every time I read a new OP's chapter -_-
[snapback]90471[/snapback]**Why do we like Franky? Because he's AWESOME!!! It seems like your only reasons for disliking Franky are because of the way he looks. That's a pretty shallow reason for disliking the character. One of the great things about One Piece is the fantastically imaginative character design. Franky is amongst the best that we've seen thus far in the series. He's a unique looking character much like Usopp and frankly I'd take that any day over the boring, generic cool guy look that Pauly sports.
That's something else I wonder about the others who want Pauly to join over Franky, is it because of Franky's character design and that he's not a hot/cool guy?
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Originally posted by Luffy1Piece@Jul 16 2005, 11:49 AM
That's something else I wonder about the others who want Pauly to join over Franky, is it because of Franky's character design and that he's not a hot/cool guy?
[snapback]90497[/snapback]You know, I bet if Franky still looked the same as he did in the flashback he would have even more votes. I remember when I first started into one piece I peeked in a thread with pics of Franky and Paulie and wondered how a funny looking guy like Franky would even be considered as a potential crew member. Now that I've caught up Oda has managed to turn Franky into a great character , much like he did when Usopp was first introduced.
And for those who like the idea of Paulie getting into debt with Nami because of his gambling. I don't know, I like it better when she gets angry hahah. Bring on Franky and his big money spending ways.
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Originally posted by Luffy1Piece@Jul 16 2005, 06:49 PM
It seems like your only reasons for disliking Franky are because of the way he looks.
[snapback]90497[/snapback]I know it's not a good reason, but I disliked him at the very first sight… He's so ugly that I can't appreciate his background and his characterization.
I can't do nothing... it'a an istinctive feeling -_-
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Franky kicks ass, and has his own sexy charm. If I was a chick I'd hit it.
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I should point out that I hated Ussop when he first arrived on the scene. But somewhere along the Arlong Arc, he grew on me, and now I really like him. Franky was the same way, I didn't like him at first, but now I do. So give him a chance, you may find yourself realizing one chapter, that you really like this weird guy.
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I dunno.. Franky just isn't very interesting to me. At first, I just didn't like how he looks, and that he's so much older than the rest… but as time goes on, he just seems overpowered to me. Yeah, he has his major weaknesses, the whole cola thing, and the back being normal, but he blew up a dock in Water 7! Zoro could probably do as much damage to an area, but he's had to work up to it... Franky's already powerful. He just seems like a... well, a twink. To me, in my opinion, he's already monstrously powerful.
I'm also not so sure someone like Franky would join a pirate crew. I guess it depends on how this turns out in the end. If he ends up a major criminal with a bounty.. yeah, maybe.. but otherwise, I just see him wanting to stay with the family he's come to appreciate over all these years.
I'll be disappointed if it's Franky who joins. I'll get over it, but that's still how I'll feel.
Paulie just seems to me like he has more potential. He doesn't seem at all like a "Wiper" character, Wiper was rather boring and had little that made his character unique... Oda's given Paulie several unusual quirks that I can't see a simple background character having. He's also got an unusual attack method that, I think, could evolve and be improved upon in time.
The crew's last addition was a very powerful character, I'd like to see the new member be closer to normal.
Again, this is my opinion, that's all.
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The points each side brings up, particularly omae and Konis, are entirely valid. Both characters have several unique quirks, distinct fighting styles, and a reason to travel with the Straw-Hats (Franky being a now-Wanted criminal, Paulie as payment for saving Iceburg or something). It really comes down to personal preference.
I'll start by saying that I voted "Franky." He's awesome. Where else will you see a cola-powered, Popeye-armed cyborg with kickass qualities but in one of Oda's works? If he joins as a Shipwright – and possibly a Musician -- I will be ECSTATIC. He's too fun a character to just waste, so if nothing else, we'll get a cover story if he doesn't join.
Paulie, though, is also a favorite. Why else would I have a sig made of him? =3 His fighting style just hasn't been seen before, and I'd like to see where Oda takes it... and him. His past also promises to be intriguing, even if not as tied to the story as Franky's was. The quirks Oda's given him -- namely, being a prude and having a gambling problem -- can be expanded upon and more added, and he just seems a very ripe character for development. But, sadly, he's been pushed off the seat of prominence he had up through the mansion assault, and he's really just been stale (if not exceedingly cool when he rescued the Strawhats) to me most of the time from the end of the mansion onward. Pity, and I hope that we see more of him. At least give him a minor battle, Oda-sensei!! He deserves to kick some ass after all the shit he's been through. Which, by the by, makes me think that I really prefer seeing Paulie's fighting style over Franky's. I might have to change my vote here...
I can see either one joining, and I'd be happy with one or both. Now, off to change my vote to Paulie...
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Originally posted by Luffy1Piece@Jul 16 2005, 01:49 PM
That's something else I wonder about the others who want Pauly to join over Franky, is it because of Franky's character design and that he's not a hot/cool guy?
[snapback]90497[/snapback]I'd never vote Paulie just because I don't like how Franky looks. If you'll go back and look through the thread, I'm sure you'll find a lot of people who go into detail on why Paulie will join over Franky, and none of which have to deal with looks. If you don't believe me, go find my long rant about it.
Really, that's almost an insult to the Paulie supporters who took the time to express their opinions here.
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I had no problem saying it would be Paulie last time (despite greatly prefering Franky instead), but now I'm leaning toward Franky. He has an impressive variety of cyborgisms that simply seem to work well with the Straw Hats in my mind. I can totally see somebody riding on centaur Franky, or Luffy guzzling down his Coke on a hot day, etc. The flashback and goal definitely don't hurt, either…
But we know there's a good chance Paulie has a yet-to-be-seen flashback and dream, too, so I don't think we can rule him out yet... We all know the focus is going to switch back to him at some point, I guess the chance of a comeback depends how great the upcoming focus is. I still see Paulie joining as a possibility... Franky would have to be a reccuring character for me to be satisfied, though, and I'm not talking about just a cover page mini story (though that definitely would be entertaining).
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_Originally posted by Paulie+Jul 16 2005, 09:36 PM–>QUOTE(Paulie @ Jul 16 2005, 09:36 PM)Peally, that's almost an insult to the Paulie supporters who took the time to express their opinions here.
[snapback]90557[/snapback]Woah!
I've never said that is better if is Paulie who join because Frenky isn't cool.
I've only said that i don't want to see Frenky because is ugly.Putting aside the cool or not cool topic, I prefer Paulie for many aspect already mentioned by others, like:
Originally posted by Paulie@Jul 11 2005, 12:18 PM
**First, let me address the point brought up that Paulie's ropes are too plain of a fighting style. I'd have to disagree; I have faith in Oda to make it into something grand. If you hadn't seen One Piece, I'm sure you'd think that a fighting style revolving around kicks would be lame, but Sanji has proven time and again that it can be pulled off, not only well, but with style. I expect to see the same thing from Paulie and his rope fighting. It might sound lame on paper, and perhaps what we've seen isn't the greatest; but I'm sure that Oda has all the real tricks saved up for the future, and when he pulls them out, we'll all be left saying "How cool is that?!"Secondly, I shall address the point of Paulie's character; in short, people say his character is too bland, not unique enough. His quirks are negligible, or they clash or what have you. Well, first off, he might have one or two we've yet to see that can make him more interesting. Oda hasn't delved in depth into Paulie's character, choosing instead to go into Franky's, the reason for which, in my opinion, is that after Water Seven, he won't get to go into Franky's character; AKA, he's left behind.
At any rate, even going by what we know now, I still think Paulie would be a fien addition to the crew. Why, you ask? Because his quirks can cause some good scenes between the pirates. His gambling problems, amusing as they are on their own, are sure to compound in amusement when coupled with Nami's vast amount of cash, and her money-hoarding ways. She can cheat him out of his, only to be begged into letting him borrow more to fund his habit. Also, of course, is how he treats women; this is sure to cause some debate between him and Sanji. Not only that, but others, especially the girls themselves, and possibly Zoro, can get dragged into it as well. In short, his personality can compliment the other Straw Hats well.**
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Originally posted by Roman Zaenom@Jul 11 2005, 01:14 PM
**Voted Paulie. If his rope techniques aren't original for you, how come you find Franky's to be original while they're only just things Usopp could do (fire, wind, nails, bombs…)? Ropes can come in handy anytime, not just in combat. Paulie has a less freaky design too and I love his interactions with the crew.Franky is funny, but kind of repetitive. It's still ok in this arc but might get really annoying if he joins and repeats the same puns (guitar, poses, crying...). Paulie is much more of a versatile character like Sanji or Zoro.
As said, if Franky is shown so much now is probably because Oda uses this character as much as he can while he still can and so that we have a background and personality for the new ship.**
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@Mar 16 2005, 04:30 AM
**Well, if he joins the Strawhats, maybe, in time, it'll become less pronounced… also, come on.. a GUY that's a prude... Nami will tease him relentlessly, just because it'd bug him, and she knows he's not interested. The kinda of mean, teasing things a girl could do to a prudish guy...And who knows, maybe there's a good reason for his being so prudish. shrug I think it's interesting, because you just don't see that sort of thing in males often, at least, not in anime. I'd love to see how he manages on a ship with two sexy girls and a shameless flirt who wants them dressed as skimpily as possible.
Also, I REALLY wanna see Paulie and Sanji bickering over Nami's attire. _ That would entertain me more than Sanji arguing with the brick wall that is Zoro. Nothing against Zoro, but he mostly ignores Sanji.
I honestly think Paulie has a lot of potential.**_
And so on…
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Im sittin in a internet cafe in Cabo verde so I havn read through all the post..
I think frankys fightnig style is little boring, it somehow reminds me of Usopps because they both shoots and they both use different items and such in battle.. And I still think Strong Right is like a copy of Gomu GOmu pistol. And he is also a fist fighter, wich is also boring, we already have Luffy and Choppa that fighs with their fists.
I also think that Frankys design doesnt fit wih the strawhatts.. Hes too cartoony, and he has the same color as Luffy on his clothes, and maybe not a big point but, every srawhatt has normal hair, its their natural hairstyle, but Franky has his strange surfer haircutt with alot of hair wax and things like that.
And Paulies fightning will give the SHs much more variety, he can do so much things with his ropes, and he has the right attack names for a SH too, with al the different knots and lifts and then the attack name..
And Pauley also has a beard style that will fitt with the strawhatts, and he smokes cigarr, noone does that in the Sh clan.
And as I~ve said before, franky already got his "clan" and he is he boss of it, so it no ned to join another clan.
And who says tat Paule is a decent shpwright? He is diciple of Iceburg ffs.
And when they get the new ship, it may be more advanced that Going Merry and Paulie seems to a good hand with ropes so he~s to prefect man t handle the Sail.
Sorry for the spell mistakes, I dont have time to correct it..
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It doesnt seems like people understand what Paulie can do with his ropes… He can throw his opponets without being near them ad he can tie weapons up, and then do sme cool moves.. And he can do alot of Combo attack.. Just think of him tie Sanjis hand then swing him around while ghe kicks everyone.. And can borrow Zoros and do some cool things.. And from what we have seen, Pauley has atleast 2 ropes.. And he is probably a great fisher.
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I dont know how many people will read this but here we go.
I dont think Franky is going to be a member for a few reasons.Ok look everyone who joined the crew show cased there general fighting style and then developed and showed more elaberate attacks after they joined.
Zoro he used three swords and Onigiri it was only after he was an offical member that he showed other moves.
Nami does'nt really count she never really had any moves.
Usopp they showed that he used his sling shot for long range attacks and they showed his Fire Star move,after he joined he used diffrent things.
Sanji they showed his fighting style powerful kicks he only used attacks with actual names after he joined.
Chopper is a little diffrent he used the rumble ball but that is his ability and his general fighting style,he did save other transformations after he joined.
Robin she is'nt really a member but same thing they showed her moves what it was in general and then gave her actual attaks after she came along.
Now Franky is showing off alot of attacks and Special moves already he is'nt just showcasing his fighting style he is showing all he has to offer.
Paulie on the other hand has show cased his moves the general idea of him using a rope to attack,but not going indepth with it to show special moves.
So if Oda sticks with the way he is going it is more likey for Paulie to join.
Also people saying that Franky will Join because he has had a flash back and all,well Franky has'nt really had anything happen as of lately that would trigger a flash back.I think that when he meets up with the CP9 his former friends a flashback will accure something like "We have known each other for as long how could you do this"Flash back to the good olds days.
Also people saying giving Franky a weakness makes him more of a candidate.Well specifically besides women what is Sanji's weakness getting hurt bad.The same can be said for Pauile him getting hurt bad would put him in the same state as Zoro or Sanji.Also the hole cola powered thing could be a big problem if they are out on an island that does'nt have cola he could be unable to do anything for an entire arc.If the ship gets broken he would'nt be able to fix it and a shipwright who would be unable to fix a ship is not a good shipwright.If Paulie was injured he could still manage minor repairs but Franky would not be able to move.
Well there is my thing I prefer Pauile over Franky I am sorry that is just my opinon.
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At this point, I don't really care that much anymore who joins. I'm just going to be really annoyed if he keeps freaking out about how Nami and Robin dress. It's going to end up being really lame like how Victreebel always tried to eat James every episode.
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Originally posted by Nico Robin Fan@Jul 16 2005, 05:44 PM
**But how the heck you all like franky?Ok, he is quite nice at the beginning, and he have an interesting past to, but…
He is so freaking horrible!Stupid-weird-looking arms.
Stupid-ugly-weird-looking nose.
Stupid-ultra-ugly-weird-looking chin.And he wear only a pair of pants!
Neither the beauty of both Robin and Nami could balance is uglyness...
Geez... I don't wanna need to wash my eyes with bleach every time I read a new OP's chapter -_-
[snapback]90471[/snapback]**You know, not every person in this world is as shallow as you. Some of us appear to prefer a characters personality over his appearance.
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At this point after the little plot twist Oda did at the Alabasta arc with Robin and the whoelbuild-up with Vivi I'm going to stay outta this. It's really hard to tell. For all we know it could be one of the CP9 members or someone that came just completely out of left field.
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I'VE FIGURED IT OUT!
Spandam's joining!
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Originally posted by o-chan@Jul 16 2005, 07:05 PM
**At this point after the little plot twist Oda did at the Alabasta arc with Robin and the whoelbuild-up with Vivi I'm going to stay outta this. It's really hard to tell. For all we know it could be one of the CP9 members or someone that came just completely out of left field.O-chan
[snapback]90646[/snapback]**Nero could be a possibilty.. otherwise Oda has just put him in so Franky had someone to pound on?
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_Originally posted by Nico Robin Fan+Jul 17 2005, 01:44 AM–>QUOTE(Nico Robin Fan @ Jul 17 2005, 01:44 AM)But how the heck you all like franky?
Ok, he is quite nice at the beginning, and he have an interesting past to, but...
He is so freaking horrible!Stupid-weird-looking arms.
Stupid-ugly-weird-looking nose.
Stupid-ultra-ugly-weird-looking chin.And he wear only a pair of pants!
[snapback]90471[/snapback]:wub:
Honestly, I think Franky is the better looking of the two. He's so masculine and cartoony, fun to look at. And his "evil" face is just awesome. Pauly seems like the generic "cool" guy, with slicked back hair, Trunks' clothes, and goggles. He's even a bishie without the hair around his mouth. But this is part of why I like Franky more, not why I think he'll join.
@Jul 17 2005, 06:59 AM
It doesnt seems like people understand what Paulie can do with his ropes… He can throw his opponets without being near them ad he can tie weapons up, and then do sme cool moves.
[snapback]90592[/snapback]_And earlier in the thread I said how all he can do is throw ropes. XD
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Originally posted by Nico Robin Fan@Jul 16 2005, 11:44 AM
**But how the heck you all like franky?Ok, he is quite nice at the beginning, and he have an interesting past to, but…
He is so freaking horrible!Stupid-weird-looking arms.
Stupid-ugly-weird-looking nose.
Stupid-ultra-ugly-weird-looking chin.And he wear only a pair of pants!
Neither the beauty of both Robin and Nami could balance is uglyness...
Geez... I don't wanna need to wash my eyes with bleach every time I read a new OP's chapter -_-
[snapback]90471[/snapback]**Man, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Personaly, I'd jump on that Cyborg like the last chopper outta 'Nam. Hot DAMN what a man!
Plus, yes, he is Professor Awesome. A train, man. A TRAIN. <3
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I think frankys fightnig style is little boring, it somehow reminds me of Usopps because they both shoots and they both use different items and such in battle.. And I still think Strong Right is like a copy of Gomu GOmu pistol. And he is also a fist fighter, wich is also boring, we already have Luffy and Choppa that fighs with their fists.
Dude. ROPES. Franky shoots goddamn bullets and nails out of his body, and has a flamethrower! And I'm sure not much more we haven't seen.
Meanwhile we have Pauley and his jolly rodeo, tying up people. And that's it.
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Pauley was my choice a little while when he first showed up… then Franky started developing. Once we learned he wasn't going to be the main villain of the saga and he starts chatting with Usopp, it just slapped me in the face that he could join. Proof kept piling up:
Franky has a flashback (a weak support, but i feel it still backs him up; everyone but Nami had some flashback when on their first island)
Franky has 900 times more potential for wierdness. He's got dozens of weapons stocked into him without god-moding. He may even have other transformations in store (perhaps even compete with Chopper at this?)
THE MAN GRAPPLED A TRAIN, THEN WENT ON TO REPAIR HIS OWN BUTCHERED BODY!!! HOW ON EARTH IS THAT NOT WORTHY OF MAKING HIM A MEMBER!!!?
Franky looks like Popeye. Popeye the sailor man. Put it together (jk)
In terms of Pauley, the points kept stacking against him while they stacked up FOR Franky:
His rope powers allow him to entangle and grab things from a long distance... exactly like Luffy already can. He'd practically be a third wheel in battle
Focus has drawn greatly away from Pauley, since it seems now he's not much more than a representative for Galley La (or whatever it's really called)
Pauley, except for his dedication to Iceburg, hasn't shown any depth worth noticing, in my opinion. He's shown he has a lot of debt and hates scantily clad women, but it potentially makes him too much like he's just some pile of quirks thrown together to make a character. He seems too much like just a Dalton or Pell type of character to me
Also concerning his quirks, his hate for Nami and Nico's apparel would never cease. He would probably wind up doing nothing but ranting, which really would get repetitive as he snaps every time he's on deck. And the girls sure as hell aren't going to change their dress just for his liking (not if Sanji's got anything to say about it)
The only possible problem i see is the involvement of the Franky Family. Pauley also has this factor against him with Galley La, but i keep remembering him leaving them behind to spend the money he got from . It seemed like while he cared about them enough to seek revenge, he had faith enough to leave them for a while.
The way i see it, Franky's touched by the crew's closeness, wanting to go with them but can't due to the damages done to the city that he feels like he should repair, as well as care for the Franky Family (which are apparently failed carpenters). Pauley/Iceburg catch onto this, and promise to fix up the island as well as train the Family to be true carpenters. Franky has a touching moment with Iceburg, then offers his services to the crew. He, Galley La, and the Franky Family all construct a huge ship for the Strawhats (creating a hiatus period, like after Alabastia), Franky finally offering to join when the crew is ready to leave. Usopp (having returned, of course) backs Franky up, and perhaps Sanji or Robin as well.
Luffy: "No way Speedo-man can join us! He beat up Usopp and took our gold for no reason! He's like the king of jerks"
Franky: "OH, you break my heart, kid." strums on guitar "This' what i call the ballad of the broken heart..."
Luffy: "Awesome! Welcome aboard! You're our new musician!"
Frank: "I'M A SHIPWRIGHT!" -
honestly i really dun like franky that much right now but i have to admit that he is a much more likely future crew member than paulie
im also sure that franky will fit in with the crew and everyone will eventually like him (or at least respect) like they do any other member. i remember when i first saw usopp i absolutely couldnt stand him but now hes an indespensible member
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Originally posted by Buccaneer@Jul 16 2005, 07:43 PM
And earlier in the thread I said how all he can do is throw ropes. XD
[snapback]90671[/snapback]That's kinda like saying all Zoro can do is cut things =)
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Well, no, he has defense as well with his swords.
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Franky can defend with his ropes.He could pull 3 ropes from his sleeve and then pull them across his chest like a net.
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Didn't do that when he needed to…..
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Dude.. ropes aren't defense. I'd cut thru ropes straight if you gave me a knife. Ropes are clever tactical tools, they aren't attacks either. Fighting with ropes… I thus conclude that it's not very reliable.
I LIKE Franky more, and I think Franky will join too. The franky family, already bonding with galley-la, will join them in the end to rebuild water 7, while franky leaves with the strawhats after building them a new ship. He will follow to fulfill his dream of being able to make a ship that can best the grand line. Of course, he will have to repair the ship and maintain it.
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Originally posted by Buccaneer+Jul 16 2005, 07:43 PM–>QUOTE(Buccaneer @ Jul 16 2005, 07:43 PM)
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Originally posted by Buccaneer@Jul 16 2005, 08:43 PM
And earlier in the thread I said how all he can do is throw ropes. XD
[snapback]90671[/snapback]And all Sanji can do is kick….
Honestly, have a little more faith in Oda, would you? You haven't seen all of Paulie's tricks.
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Well I have a feeling Paulie is gonna have an interesting fight once they get to Eneas Lobby.He cant be left out of the fights he is pissed off at CP9 also,more then the Strawhats for sure.They were his friends and they just back stabbed him hardcore.He is gonna show us some cool moves and just how creaive Oda is.
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Originally posted by Ivotas@Jul 17 2005, 12:37 AM
You know, not every person in this world is as shallow as you. Some of us appear to prefer a characters personality over his appearance.
[snapback]90632[/snapback]Oh, but you are. Maybe you should read avery post before quoting and pressing key randomly.
I've already said why I prefer Paulie.
I've done the comment on how ugly is Frenky only because I look from every prospective and this argument were still untouched.Bad english, bad english… I'm still sleeping <_<
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Nico Robin Fan and Ivotas, stop it. Calling each other names is not going to do anything but get this topic locked if it esclates.
And concerning Paulie and his ropes, there really aren't alot of uses for rope. I spent a few good hours thinking about the matter and all I came up with is:
- Strangle the enemy
- Attach knives or other sharp objects then throw the rope at the enemy.
- Attach one end to the enemy and swing him around, into a heavy object maybe.
- Manipulate the objects around them, like grabbing a big heavy object and smushing the bastard or pulling a lever.
And that's about it really. Most of the stuff is countered if the enemy in question has a knife to cut the rope or is stronger than Paulie. Sad to say, but it's true.
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Initially (like everyone else, I thought Paulie was going to join, after all his "dedication" to Iceberg and Galley Company speech), however this weakens his chance of joining the straw hats. Since 2 of the 5 top shipwrights (Lucchi and Kaku) are MOST LIKELY not going to be a part of galley company after this arc, I am confident that Paulie would stay and repair the mess. However Franky is still a criminal (despite his good intentions to Water 7), which I see more as a reinforcing factor for him joining. And yes, Franky has all the criterions, 1.Several interesting quirks, 2.A dream 3.Interesting design, etc…however the problem with his dream is that, it is too short (Building a dream ship probably would not be as extenuating as becoming such as the World Greatest Swordsman, but I could be wrong). Also Paulie really hasnt shown much interest in the "Strawhats" in comparison to Franky; Even Robin had an interest in the Strawhats before she joined. I personally hope it is Franky, though one problem is that I cannot see him in a different attire then his hawaiin shirt and speedo (For we all know Oda likes to dress up the characters in different attires)
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Originally posted by Zio@Jul 17 2005, 03:26 AM
**And concerning Paulie and his ropes, there really aren't alot of uses for rope. I spent a few good hours thinking about the matter and all I came up with is:- Strangle the enemy
- Attach knives or other sharp objects then throw the rope at the enemy.
- Attach one end to the enemy and swing him around, into a heavy object maybe.
- Manipulate the objects around them, like grabbing a big heavy object and smushing the bastard or pulling a lever.
And that's about it really. Most of the stuff is countered if the enemy in question has a knife to cut the rope or is stronger than Paulie. Sad to say, but it's true.
[snapback]90827[/snapback]**Except, this is Oda… and just because you can think of those uses doesn't mean there aren't others you're overlooking. Oda's made it one of his things to pull unusual uses for otherwise normal things. The things you've listed are things we've seen Paulie do... I think there's more to come. What if he can weave the ropes? What if he can make them come from his pant legs? I say just wait and see. He's also fairly strong and a skilled carpenter.. I'd be surprised if he didn't have talents we haven't seen yet.
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Dont forget using pulleys! Or attaching his end to something! He can swing himself on the ropes to gain momentum for a physical attack! Etc.!
There's a lot that can be done that people are surely overlooking. If Paulie is intended to join, as I am, at least, sure of, then you can bet Oda's sat down and thought of quite a variety of interesting things for Paulie to be doing in battle.
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Originally posted by Nico Robin Fan+Jul 17 2005, 08:51 AM–>QUOTE(Nico Robin Fan @ Jul 17 2005, 08:51 AM)
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People've been saying that on both sides for the entire argument. No need to pick out one person. Paulie's so generic, Franky's so ugly. It's nothing not seen here before, so get over it.
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There's a difference you know.
If Paulie is generic, that means he's too normal. Thus the reason for this argument: Paulie looks normal, not that I don't like him but I don't think he will join!
If Franky is ugly, that means he's.. aesthetically unpleasing. Thus the reason for that argument would be : Franky is ugly! I don't like him! I don't want him to join.
The reasons behind saying one is generic and one is ugly are different. I'm not supporting whoever, just pointing out, okay :)
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Or Franky's too unusual. That better?
Saying Paulie is too plain can be inferred as "I don't like his look" anyway.
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Yup, unusual would be the right word.
Paulie's too generic and Franky's too unusual. Same argument basis.
