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Chapter 553 "Battle of the Highest" Discussion
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Yeah I think only like the first page after the cover was not a spread. I hope Oda doesn't get too fanservicy with the girls( that's more of a Kubo thing and lord knows he needs it to attract readers).
No matter how much you may or may not like Bleach, it does sell well. Kubo's not in trouble and doesn't "need" fanservice at this point.
And the "Oda not getting too fanservicey" boat has long since passed. Nami's main role in the series, now, is to be the Ms. Fanservice of the Straw Hats.
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Yeah I think only like the first page after the cover was not a spread. I hope Oda doesn't get too fanservicy with the girls( that's more of a Kubo thing and lord knows he needs it to attract readers).
Fanservice on the cover spreads are fine. And as long as it's not overdone in the chapter it's fine. Hopefully Oda doesn't start loading his chapters with too much fanservice :ermm: .
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No matter how much you may or may not like Bleach, it does sell well. Kubo's not in trouble and doesn't "need" fanservice at this point.
And the "Oda not getting too fanservicey" boat has long since passed. Nami's main role in the series, now, is to be the Ms. Fanservice of the Straw Hats.
Well unfortunately your right on both counts. Kubo's fanserivce spreads are actually well done I think. Hopefully Nami gets a combat upgrade in addition to the chest upgrade. I'm glad to see Robin is at least a little more covered even though I like Robin more.
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@Thousand:
Why not.
Because it's retarded as hell?
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@Kairouseki:
Fanservice on the cover spreads are fine. And as long as it's not overdone in the chapter it's fine. Hopefully Oda doesn't start loading his chapters with too much fanservice :ermm: .
I keep half expecting a chapter in which an entire page is just spent on a bikini clad Nami waxing the Clima Tact. To be fair, as Urouge reminded me, Oda did say Nami's body will continue to develop.
And Oda hasn't come close to an Orihime, Rangiku, or Harribel (and many others) level of fanservice.
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Why are you all partying, I'm here still.
There's no point talking to jack flash. There are many ways oda can make luffy matter in the war.
And they will be tiny and he will still get his ass kicked.
Lmao! Way to go Brennen if you did layeth the ban hammer. That guy was a huge anti Luffy troll, I had a larf at that "Lying in his own feces" part though.
Yeah, in a world where trolling is defined in pointing out a character will get his ass kicked when he will get his ass kicked.
Luffy will get his ass kicked big time, he will at best make lots of noise but have no effect on the tide of the battle. He isn't the focus of this in any way shape or form.
Luffy will get his ass kicked.
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Herald isn't worthy.
I hope we get a respectable female soon, maybe Lola!
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Wow, this is as bad as Impel Down, when people were going
"Luffy MUST BEAT Magellan."
"MUSSSSTTT…."The "Luffy will never lose again" trolls are just as bad.
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Why are you all partying, I'm here still.
And they will be tiny and he will still get his ass kicked.
Yeah, in a world where trolling is defined in pointing out a character will get his ass kicked when he will get his ass kicked.
Luffy will get his ass kicked big time, he will at best make lots of noise but have no effect on the tide of the battle. He isn't the focus of this in any way shape or form.
Luffy will get his ass kicked.
You're just not grasping the fact that him getting his ass kicked a third time in a row would do nothing for the story, seriously what could that accomplish? We already know a lot of the guys in the war are strong, him getting mopped again won't tell us anything, plus he has atleast 2 strong allies with him and can move about fairly unnoticed.
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@Fiasco.:
Herald isn't worthy.
I hope we get a respectable female soon, maybe Lola!
I don't think I've ever been wrong about things I've said won't happened.
Not that it's hard with the dumb things people suggest will occur.
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Wow, this is as bad as Impel Down, when people were going
"Luffy MUST BEAT Magellan."
"MUSSSSTTT…."The "Luffy will never lose again" trolls are just as bad.
Who said he'll never lose again? Most are saying he just won't lose a 3rd time in a row, damn I bet some of you guys thought Luffy would never beat Lucci after the Galley la mansion.
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The only miracle Luffy is gonna pull in this war is not running into someone who could and would easily kick his ass. Seeing how most of these individuals will probably be occupied by more important forces he might have a chance but knowing Luffy he will probably draw attention to himself.
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Woo, just reread the chapter awhile ago and I have to say that Mihawk's slash is one HOLY MOTHER OF ALL SLASHES!
Fuck. If it had hit Moby Dick, the ship could have been cut in half easily.
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You're just not grasping the fact that him getting his ass kicked a third time in a row would do nothing for the story,
It does the same thing him getting his ass kicked twice in a row did. And the same thing him winning big three times in a row would do.
You have this random fantasy that him losing a lot means something bad.
seriously what could that accomplish?
Staying true to the power structures that are present instead of feeding into some intensely gay fanboy logic that he will be able to compete with people millions of times above him.
If Luffy is able to play on the field here it will be bad writing and destroy the carefully constructed careful sense of power balance Oda's had for tens of volumes.
This is Naruto fandom bullshit, Oda's too good for what you droogs want.
We already know a lot of the guys in the war are strong, him getting mopped again won't tell us anything,
Who the hell said it needed to? This isn't an arc where Luffy's power is in question it's one where he has a specific goal, a defeat would crush that goal.
plus he has atleast 2 strong allies with him
And 1 strong enemy. Luffy's brought problems as well as help with him.
Not to mention Jimbei and Ivankov have assloads of people to deal with themselves.and can move about fairly unnoticed.
Alright alright, you, YOU, accused another person of bias unfactual views of the main cast, and then you went and wrote this sentence about Luffy.
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Who said he'll never lose again? Most are saying he just won't lose a 3rd time in a row, damn I bet some of you guys thought Luffy would never beat Lucci after the Galley la mansion.
It was rather obvious they were close enough when Franky almost crushed Blueno's face.
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Anyone else feel like 90% of Whitebeard's supposed greatness comes from his crew? Yeah, the guy can make quakes, but ain't no way he'dve survived Kizaru or Mihawk's attacks.
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So what is Marco then, a gasoline man maybe. I was hoping for someone with no fruit powers but their powers seem pretty cool.
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If Marco turns out to be a gas fruit user, I predict many, many fart jokes in the future…
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I don't think I've ever been wrong about things I've said won't happened.
Not that it's hard with the dumb things people suggest will occur.
Haha so Luffy possibly beating someone of moderate strength and saving Ace or atleast contributing to his rescue is wild speculation? It's no more wild than thinking WB will die, (actually less so since no one significant has died in the current storyline) here's some more baseless speculation for you, Luffy will be the pirate king. I've said this before btw shock.
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Anyone else feel like 90% of Whitebeard's supposed greatness comes from his crew? Yeah, the guy can make quakes, but ain't no way he'dve survived Kizaru or Mihawk's attacks.
He would've brushed them off like Aokiji's.
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From posting a gas fruit in the Create Your Own thread I have learned that the Japanese word for gas looks similar to the word funky. Very important stuff. If it's a gas fruit then what is the wing-like thing over his face at the end?
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Anyone else feel like 90% of Whitebeard's supposed greatness comes from his crew? Yeah, the guy can make quakes, but ain't no way he'dve survived Kizaru or Mihawk's attacks.
ahahahahahhahaha
Oh god, this fucking forum. A fountain of laughter today.
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So the strongest man in the world can't survive attacks but his followers can? That doesn't make much sense. More like he didn't think they were worthy enough to deal with himself.
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Haha so Luffy possibly beating someone of moderate strength
In order to save Ace Luffy will HAVE to fight someone uber strong.
Do you really think he can get up there without running into at least a Vice Admiral?and saving Ace,
or atleast contributing to his rescue is wild speculation?No one will be saving Ace.
It's no more wild than thinking WB will die,
Whitebeard will certainly be out of the picture after this arc, dead or no he's going down.
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It does the same thing him getting his ass kicked twice in a row did. And the same thing him winning big three times in a row would do.
No the 1st beating served to setup the SH separation, the second to showcase Magellan as a serious threat to be avoided or stalled during ID, a 3rd beating would not only be utterly pointless but would be the 1st time Luffy swore to do something but failed, i.e save Ace.
You have this random fantasy that him losing a lot means something bad.
What? No I believe that the protagonist losing in a Shonen must serve a purpose and not just for the lulz.
Staying true to the power structures that are present instead of feeding into some intensely gay fanboy logic that he will be able to compete with people millions of times above him.
What is fanboy about him fighting a moderately strong guy such as Smoker who he hasn't fought since early in the series, a win like that would just say he's advanced since early on and can fight moderately strong guys.
@TheHerald:If Luffy is able to play on the field here it will be bad writing and destroy the carefully constructed careful sense of power balance Oda's had for tens of volumes.
Look I'm not saying he'll be exchanging shots with an admiral, I said moderately strong person.
@TheHerald:This is Naruto fandom bullshit, Oda's too good for what you droogs want.
No clue of how to respond to this 1.
Who the hell said it needed to? This isn't an arc where Luffy's power is in question it's one where he has a specific goal, a defeat would crush that goal.
What's in question is Luffy being able to keep an internal promise to save Ace, after failing at SA I think for him to fail here would be needless and won't do anything for his character.
And 1 strong enemy. Luffy's brought problems as well as help with him.
Not to mention Jimbei and Ivankov have assloads of people to deal with themselves.Who Croc? Are you forgetting the big secret Ivankov has him by the balls with? And I'm fairly certain Luffy could destroy Croc at his current fighting power.
Alright alright, you, YOU, accused another person of bias unfactual views of the main cast, and then you went and wrote this sentence about Luffy.
This was how you felt Luffy could be described. This.He's in a relatively small group in a battlefield, I wouldn't be surprised if the plan is initially to move secretly but Luffy will blow it of course. I'm assuming Iva, Jimbei, Luffy will split up with Croc and Mr. 1 doing their own thing same for Buggy and the pinstripes.
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Luffy will get his ass kicked.
Well, yeah. He'll get his ass kicked after he kicks….whoever is his antagonist for this arc then get beat down by someone in his weakened condition. It's like with Kuma, that's just bound to happen. It doesn't mean that the crew can't save Ace and escape.
I'd figure you'd know that by now. I mean you say it all the time.
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He's in a relatively small group in a battlefield,
He's in a massive group of dudes decke dout in prison fatigues, one of the Shichibukai, a Revolutionary officer, and his own dumb 300,000,000 bounty face fighting against a foe that can identify it's enemies based off them not wearing a Marine uniform.
Congrats.
I wouldn't be surprised if the plan is initially to move secretly
I would be becasue that's hilariously impossible given the location of Ace and amount of people around the platform.
I'm assuming Iva, Jimbei, Luffy will split up with Croc and Mr. 1 doing their own thing same for Buggy and the pinstripes.
There won't be any damn plan, they'll leap into battle with Whitebeard's men, Jimbei for sure.
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….whoever is his antagonist for this arc
This just shows how weak your stance is. How are you dead set on him beating someone if you can't pick who it will be?
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Oh lawdy, I dared speak against Whitebeard…
Yeah, let's forget that Kizaru's blasts were intercepted, and Joz is made of diamond. No, WB's just magically stronger and would take all that without flinching. Because this is totally DBZ and everything.
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Well, yeah. He'll get his ass kicked after he kicks….whoever is his antagonist for this arc then get beat down by someone in his weakened condition. It's like with Kuma, that's just bound to happen. It doesn't mean that the crew can't save Ace and escape.
I'd figure you'd know that by now. I mean you say it all the time.
I say none of the dumb poop you just did at any time.
Luffy will not fucking touch the admirals or Sengoku even in his dreams, I mean fuck, at least the others are suggesting some harebrained stealth job. You think Luffy will win against the main antagonist in a battle against the entirity of the Marines. That's completely delusional on every level. Luffy probably can't even beat more then one Vice Admiral let alone anyone higher.
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Just got done reading the chapter, i'm very interest in what abilities the other "captains" helping white beard out have not to mention all of them vice admirals. Seeing Jose (was that his name?) turn into diamond was both awesome and odd so I'm guessing it's him vs. Mihawk. Marco's power is a blue flame? that's what I got from the scan. Seems like he's the perfect match to go up against Kizaru. Hopefully next chapter we'll get to see what Red Dog can do (sorry can't remember dude's actual name)
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Oh lawdy, I dared speak against Whitebeard…
Yeah, let's forget that Kizaru's blasts were intercepted, and Joz is made of diamond. No, WB's just magically stronger and would take all that without flinching. Because this is totally DBZ and everything.
The hell, you were serious about that:wassat:
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Oh lawdy, I dared speak against Whitebeard…
Yeah, let's forget that Kizaru's blasts were intercepted, and Joz is made of diamond. No, WB's just magically stronger and would take all that without flinching. Because this is totally DBZ and everything.
Hmm yes, Whitebeard the strongest man in the world would totally be at danger to a guy Rayleigh was already able to match up with and deflect blasts from.
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I say none of the dumb poop you just did at any time.
Luffy will not fucking touch the admirals or Sengoku even in his dreams, I mean fuck, at least the others are suggesting some harebrained stealth job. You think Luffy will win against the main antagonist in a battle against the entirity of the Marines. That's completely delusional on every level. Luffy probably can't even beat more then one Vice Admiral let alone anyone higher.
I would have to agree, luffy could get to sen goku but all that would be waiting for him would more than likeally be utter anihilation.
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The hell, you were serious about that:wassat:
Why wouldn't I be?! At what point did OP ever show us to be the kind of series where someone would magically just be that strong without reason? And reason beyond someone's title.
Strongest Man in the World? Doi, he can create quakes and shit. Sengoku's scared shitless of him. Let's not act like he's more than he is.
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Why wouldn't I be?! At what point did OP ever show us to be the kind of series where someone would magically just be that strong without reason? And reason beyond someone's title.
Strongest Man in the World? Doi, he can create quakes and shit. Sengoku's scared shitless of him. Let's not act like he's more than he is.
Sengoku's playin scarred, I bet dollars over dimes that he has an even scarier power than WB.
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This just shows how weak your stance is. How are you dead set on him beating someone if you can't pick who it will be?
Not really i can say the same who is going to beat luffy , you could say 1 of the big boys but they have other people to worry about .
So this going go around in circles (just a eg)
(you)Luffy going to have meet a VA to save ace .
(me) So why can't they be fighting a member of WB crew.
(you) Because they are guarding ace
(me) But WB crew has 14 commanders plus new world captains that are going to be attackingSo let's just see who what going to happen.
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In order to save Ace Luffy will HAVE to fight someone uber strong.
Do you really think he can get up there without running into at least a Vice Admiral?Atm I don't know who his obstacle will be and what level are the VAs at, so if VAs are moderately strong and would give him a tough fight but not a curbstomping then fine, I can see him fighting one.
No one will be saving Ace.
WB dying I can see, although Ace dying would probably cause a change in Luffy (an interesting one) it also has a 1% chance of happening.
Whitebeard will certainly be out of the picture after this arc, dead or no he's going down.
I agree.
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Sengoku's playin scarred, I bet dollars over dimes that he has an even scarier power than WB.
I actually kinda hope not. I like the idea that the head of the Marines isn't some superpowered guy. Just someone who's that good at running an organization like that.
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Why wouldn't I be?! At what point did OP ever show us to be the kind of series where someone would magically just be that strong without reason? And reason beyond someone's title.
It never ceases to amaze me how all the people with awful theories never seem to have actually read the series.
Less then six volumes ago rayleigh was cutting and blocking logia powers from a Light Man, and here Detective Doofus has deducted that Whitebeard not being at danger from Kizaru and Mihawk is "Dragonball Z esque" and that the strongest man in the world can't possibly overcome such already matched powers.
Strongest Man in the World? Doi, he can create quakes and shit. Sengoku's scared shitless of him. Let's not act like he's more than he is.
Why the fuck are you talking like Kizaru and Mihawk's attacks are the equivalent of planetary combustion.
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Why wouldn't I be?! At what point did OP ever show us to be the kind of series where someone would magically just be that strong without reason? And reason beyond someone's title.
Well sorry dude but even if there is more hype than substance to him, saying there aint no way that he could survive the most basic attacks of Mihawk and Kizaru is just so damn out there that i couldnt interperted it in any other way than that you were joking around.
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Atm I don't know who his obstacle will be and what level are the VAs at, so if VAs are moderately strong and would give him a tough fight but not a curbstomping then fine, I can see him fighting one.
And after such a fight Luffy would be done, tired as hell. If Garp is any indication they are powerful as hell. Heck Luffy probably still has no way to fight Smoker who is a Commodore.
WB dying I can see, although Ace dying would probably cause a change in Luffy (an interesting one) it also has a 1% chance of happening.
It's happening 100% likely, you can quote me on this in your sig.
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Plasma is a good guess. It can be colored blue, such as St. Elmo's Fire, and is known to be able to stop light.
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I say none of the dumb poop you just did at any time.
Luffy will not fucking touch the admirals or Sengoku even in his dreams, I mean fuck, at least the others are suggesting some harebrained stealth job. You think Luffy will win against the main antagonist in a battle against the entirity of the Marines. That's completely delusional on every level. Luffy probably can't even beat more then one Vice Admiral let alone anyone higher.
Luffy can't beat a Vice Admiral?I thought you were more orginal then that. I mean, you are the only guy on the internet called, TheHerald.
This just shows how weak your stance is. How are you dead set on him beating someone if you can't pick who it will be?
I'm sorry, but you're being a jerk without realizing it. I DO have an antagonist in mind, but saying it always gets everyone's panties in a bunch. It's Magellan, okay?
Luffy will beat Magellan with his haki. There I said it. Are you happy man? You could have left this alone, but no, you had to start something!
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He's in a massive group of dudes decke dout in prison fatigues, one of the Shichibukai, a Revolutionary officer, and his own dumb 300,000,000 bounty face fighting against a foe that can identify it's enemies based off them not wearing a Marine uniform.
Congrats.
But yet there was 43 ship worth of NW pirates rushing head on, now don't you think they'll be a bit preoccupied even if they notice Luffy and his group?
I would be becasue that's hilariously impossible given the location of Ace and amount of people around the platform.
I'm saying Ivankov may suggest it and they may use stealth halfway before Luffy blows it or all of ten ft prior to him blowing it, my point is that even if/when they notice him they would already be too busy with the 12 ft tall motherfucker who's cracking air as well as his cohorts to spare anyone stronger than Smoker on Luffy and the ragtags.
@TheHerald:There won't be any damn plan, they'll leap into battle with Whitebeard's men, Jimbei for sure.
I can't imagine Ivankov not even suggesting a plan now that the possibility of Dragon not coming exists.
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How the hell can Luffy beat Magellan if they've already left ID behind? You think Magellan's going to travel into the middle of a war? And again with the Haki…
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@Kairouseki:
How the hell can Luffy beat Magellan if they've already left ID behind? You think Magellan's going to travel into the middle of a war? And again with the Haki…
Didnt he tell them to get a boat cause he was going to follow them and finish the job.
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Well sorry dude but even if there is more hype than substance to him, saying there aint no way that he could survive the most basic attacks of Mihawk and Kizaru is just so damn out there that i couldnt interperted it in any other way than that you were joking around.
I don't mean those particular attacks they threw out, I mean their attacks in general. If your flesh is regular old meat-and-potatoes flesh, Mihawk is likely gonna cleave you in two. Likewise, Kizaru can move at the speed of light, and fire blasts that topple mountainous trees with his finger while grinning like an idiot. The gov't has alot of "broken in a 1v1 situation" types on their side. I'm just saying Whitebeard, while very very strong, is likely to lose if he ends up against a handful of these guys. His air quakes won't do much against beams of light, after all.
That is, unless he has some special ability we haven't seen yet. But at this point, it's doubtful. Not saying he's weak by any stretch of the imagination, just that it's clear that much of his status should be attributed to his crew. If a guy like him commanded a crew of mooks, he'd be dead in a day, regardless of titles. Despite the fact that his title is apparently completely literal, and law, to many of the folks here.
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He might have, but I still can't imagine that happening. If Luffy was going to beat Magellan then he would've done it at ID. If Magellan and Luffy face off in this war… I don't know how I'd feel, but not happy about it. And if he beats him with Haki...