btw, i think "necessary evil" is talking about lucci. he "has to be evil" and kill robin to rid the world of her.
ooshi78
edit: btw, the title is wrong, can someone change?
btw, i think "necessary evil" is talking about lucci. he "has to be evil" and kill robin to rid the world of her.
ooshi78
edit: btw, the title is wrong, can someone change?
_Originally posted by wolfwood+Jul 1 2005, 11:16 AM–>QUOTE(wolfwood @ Jul 1 2005, 11:16 AM)what im wondering is why you think spandam would endanger the mission ?
Probably because it appears that he wants the power of Pluton for himself, while Lucci and the other´s do it for the World Government. It is yet not sure if Spandam truly want´s the blueprints because of egoistic motives or not but if he truly wants them for his own then his and Lucci´s interests devide from each other and it would appear as if Spandam is endangering the mission.
It has yet to be established whether Spandam will be egoistic or not, but if I go by stephen´s translation from page 3 of chapter 365 then I already see tendencies for egoistic motif´s from Spandam. Because last time I checked all the lunatic guys in anime-manga-cartoon-comic history who tried to take over the world where babbling something along the lines of: "The ultimate power to rule the world shall be mine! BUWUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!" ;)
@Jul 1 2005, 11:15 AM
No way am I writing all that out again, here. But, basically, he's gone a long way since the old days, hasn't he? - He looks a lot more evil now, for one thing.
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Looking a lot more evil doesn´t make him become stronger now does it?
franky+sanji+ooshi78: yeah–!!
lolz
I'll bet that Usopp ran in the wrong direction with Robin underneath his arm. It'd be very Usopp-like…
well, franky and sanji were both watching so i'm sure he's running in the right direction… usopp's not like zoro and luffy, he knows which way to go.
ooshi78
Wow, Usopp was amazing in this chapter. First, he beat a named character without any problem, and escaped with Robin by deceiving CP9 all in the same chapter! SogeKing rocks.
Anyone else notice that by the end of this arc there probably won't be any trains left?
Nero got punched thorugh the roof, Zoro chopped two cars in half, and the Rocketman may just crash into Puffing Tom.
Originally posted by molokidan@Jul 1 2005, 05:22 PM
Wow, Usopp was amazing in this chapter. First, he beat a named character without any problem…
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Who said it was Usopp who did it?
usopp says "i even beat a official" and it cuts to corgi defeated.
ooshi78
Originally posted by ooshi78@Jul 1 2005, 05:50 PM
**usopp says "i even beat a official" and it cuts to corgi defeated.ooshi78
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Well, Usopp is not a very reliable person when it comes to honesty. :P
Originally posted by ooshi78@Jul 1 2005, 05:50 PM
usopp says "i even beat a official" and it cuts to corgi defeated.
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Really? Ok my bad, thanks for clearing that one up. But, just because he said it, it doesn´t mean that it has to be the truth. ;)
However, I just had the idea that what if it is all a scheme by Usopp and Robin? I mean if Robin would claim that she did it then CP9 would already be more careful about her actions.
But if Usopp claims that he did it, added with what Robin just said to Sanji Lucci and CP9 were full of confidence and let their guard down so that Sogeking could actually make his move. If Robin wouldn´t have used her DF power on Sogeking and if she would have said that she wants to leave I think that Sogekings trick wouldn´t have worked that well. Just a theory.
corgi also looked burnt up like he took a hit with a "kayaku boshi" (gunpowder star)
ooshi78
It's hard for me to believe that such a trick could have fooled the likes of CP9. Sanji's and Franky's joy comes a bit too early. Maybe Robin'll beat the crap out of Usopp for pulling a stunt like that.
Originally posted by ooshi78@Jul 1 2005, 06:02 PM
corgi also looked burnt up like he took a hit with a "kayaku boshi" (gunpowder star)
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Now that´s a really good argument you bring in there. I have no real argument to counter it. I can just say that maybe Robin aided Sogeking with her powers to bring Corgi in the right position since it would have required some time to move Robin who was still sitting on Sogeking and shooting at Corgi afterwards without having Corgi himself moving any muscle.
But then again it´s pure speculation from my side which looks weak in comparison to a good argument from your side.
if sogeking and luffy meet on the rockewtman again i can see this happening:
Luffy: Sogeking youre so cool. come join our crew. your a better sniper than usopp anyway.
Sogeking: IM USOPP YOU IDIOT!!!!!!!!!
Luffy: What?!
Sogeking: oh shit…........
Maybe that's the answer to everyone's question. Who'll join the crew? Franky or Paulie? Neither one of them, it'll be Sogeking. :D
Originally posted by KatanaJon@Jul 1 2005, 12:35 PM
**Anyone else notice that by the end of this arc there probably won't be any trains left?Nero got punched thorugh the roof, Zoro chopped two cars in half, and the Rocketman may just crash into Puffing Tom.
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You just made a great observation there! They are damaging the Puffing Tom like it's nothing when it took Tom's Workers years to build. Granted, that time was spent on most of the clearing and building of the tracks but they had to construct the train cars as well.
Maybe this will be a motivating factor for Franky and the Franky Family to join up with Galley-La at the end of this arc? I always saw the Franky Family as coming in and "beefing" up the Galley-La people now that Lucci, Kaku, and Calipha left. This would either be Franky's motivation for staying on Water 7 (thereby allowing Paulie to join the Straw Hats) or leaving his Family in the care of Iceberg and joining the Straw Hats himself.
i'm finally starting to warm up at franky (ye-ah, it's taken me this long, because there always was something about him i didn't like, but how is anybody able to resist THE POSES?!)
Yeah me too. A while back when he first came in, Franky was just too out of control and although I didn't think it was impossible for him to join (not saying that he will) I wasn't to keen on it. But after all this I really, really have gotten to like him an AWFUL lot and he will be greatly missed by me should the story continue without him.
About Usopp and Corgi
IT'S JUST CORGI FOR GOODNESS SAKES!
Ever since he first came in his title has been "Government Beaurocrat". He looks like a stubby stumbly old weasel and he's not a CP-anything. I dunno why it should even be considered neat that Usopp took him out (which he obviously did) when Usopp has taken on the likes of Manmer and BW and taken them down. Corgi is just an old fart.
Originally posted by omae no kaasan v.2@Jul 1 2005, 01:39 PM
Corgi is just an old fart.
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
Old people suck. Usopp probably knew he was coming into the train car and hid based on the smell of old man stink alone.
Yeah, Franky is really growing on me too. I was cracking up when Franky was posing in this chapter next to Sanji for no reason after just beating the crap out of Nero. While I'm still in the "Paulie Camp", I gotta give props to Oda for taking what could have been a very overblown and ridiculous character design and making him truly multidimensional.
Originally posted by omae no kaasan v.2@Jul 1 2005, 06:39 PM
**About Usopp and CorgiIT'S JUST CORGI FOR GOODNESS SAKES!
Ever since he first came in his title has been "Government Beaurocrat". He looks like a stubby stumbly old weasel and he's not a CP-anything. I dunno why it should even be considered neat that Usopp took him out (which he obviously did) when Usopp has taken on the likes of Manmer and BW and taken them down. Corgi is just an old fart.
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So what? I already said that it is just pure speculation by my side. There´s no need to shout.
Besides I´ve never said that Corgi is a super fighter or anything like it. I just said that maybe Robin used her DF power to twist one of his arms around. It´s not like she never used that skill on a random weakling.
Originally posted by dudeinthewater@Jul 1 2005, 12:34 AM
then again…. SHE'S SOOOO HOT!! :D
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I'll second that. Normally I'm not into the OP girl designs, for reasons I think are obvious enough, but I think it's because of her Water 7 outfit. Good stuff.
As for all the newly-found Franky love: it's about time.
Yeah, I finally get the beautiful chapter in my sight.:)
Franky's centaur thing was cool, kinda how I expected it to be.
Franky's amazing poses = priceless
Lucci needs to shut his mouth. But then again, he such a good bad guy.
Sanji kicks Lucci but was blocked! Darn.
Sogeking: Robin is ours!
Sanji and Franky: YEAAAH!!
Hahahaha! :lol: That will forever be inside my brain, etched in the One Piece section.
im hoping for another coup de vent as the 4 of them are taking off in the 3rd carriage cos i bet that cp9 are gonna try to jump in on them
I wouldn't rule out that perhaps Robin lent assistance, but then again I wouldn't be surprised if Sogeking did it all by himself. I mean, he's been fragging CP agents for a few chapters now, it wouldn't shock me.
As for all the newly-found Franky love: it's about time.
True dat, he's been given the cold shoulder for far too long now. :/
Well, I just think it's cool that Soge King racked up a KO. :P Plus, I've been waiting for someone to do in that bastard ever since he was introduced.
that was an awsome chapter specialy the end of itwith sogeking running away with robin :P and the end of franky's fight was very fun
Originally posted by oceanizer@Jul 1 2005, 04:13 AM
**For colorspread… First time I paid close attention.Are they all left handed except Zoro? Luffy, Sanji, and Chopper all have their weapon on their left hands. Zoro carries umbrella on his left and put swords on the right with his right hand on it, which is strange.
Sanji has shin hair, but not Zoro. (Sorry, I've never paid attention to drawings before.)
Chopper's Kimono design is kinda gay.
Nami's sexy.Vertical line reads:
Life is full of laugh and tears. Not losing to the rain called the weary world, they'll set off to a stage filled with dream, hope, and impression.
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Actually, Oda seems to like giving most of his characters left hand characteristics….like Luffy's scar on his left cheek, Sanji's hair over his left eye...
So what? I already said that it is just pure speculation by my side. There´s no need to shout.
Pssst It's a message board, no one's shouting. And I like making exaggerated statements. Further proof of this see page 1.
if you type in all caps it's the same thing (as shouting)…
i'm still not too keen on franky... if i had to chose between vivi and franky, my vote would be for vivi.
ooshi78
Eh, about the Sogeking beatin Corgi thing, besides the fact that I'm (like I said before) the guy was probably simple enough to knock out, I don't think Usopp would be lying about it, because he kind of mumbled it to himself, he wasn't announcing it. He was like, "aw, crap, I even went around the long way and beat an official".
I don't think anyone has brought this up, but besides worrying about CP9, isn't it entirely possible that Robin will just flat out say "enough!" and not let Sogeking carry her off? She could do that easily.
Check it out.. last page, look how Usopp's mask seems to be slipping off his face.. and how his nose follows it up and yet his mouth is so low? o.0
Could it be the start of revealing Sogeking? XD
Heh, that's actually not the first time that's happened. I recall a couple of previous panels where his jaw was hanging down from the mask like that.
And for those who are wondering why Zoro doesn't have leg hair - Green leg hair anyone? XD
Originally posted by omae no kaasan v.2@Jul 1 2005, 08:11 PM
Pssst It's a message board, no one's shouting. And I like making exaggerated statements. Further proof of this see page 1.
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Well just as ooshi78 mentioned it, writing in caps is considered as shouting in online speech. It appears that you weren´t familiar with it. I couldn´t know that.
So since it wasn´t your inention to shout, I´m cool with it. B)
great chapter, as always, i cant wait for the next one.
now, who dislocated the car? was it Sogeking or Franky?
and how did Lucci block Sanji's kick?
I thought of that about Robin freeing herself, but I'm afraid of that happening because it'll put as back at square one.
Originally posted by CosmicDebris@Jul 1 2005, 12:39 PM
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well, she's already rejected their rescue many times… she even threw usopp back towards sanji and franky in the chapter. at this point it's a reverse kidnapping... they just might wait till everything is settled and then ask her what she really wants.
i think fraky detached the car. lucci blocked sanji's kick with his arm.
ooshi78
Usopp specifically told Franky to dislocate the car. But someone could have gotten impatient, I guess.
if you type in all caps it's the same thing (as shouting)…
I still don't see how that means I'm shouting/verbalizing with text. ^_^; I may be typing in bold to exaggerate and make what I'm saying grandiose like Comic Book Guy's WORST _____ EVER phrase, but only a jerk "yells" at other people in a textual based electronic community.
Thanks for understanding Ivotas ;)
I don't think I've really read all of this topic (I never do), so maybe this has already been pointed out, but…
Lucci: "If you can't take anything seriously, you're not fit to be in CP9. We're "superhuman" because we have all Six Forms, boy..."
Far from concrete, but only now have I considered a Rokushiki-using Spandam as a possibility, just because how he said it makes me think he's speaking of CP9 as a whole. I always thought it would be too tedious to have him continue the trend, but this makes me wonder... I'm still hoping he's just a swordsman with an elephant steed, though.
in the online community all caps is akin to shouting. it's also considered rude and in a lot of online places typing in all caps is banned. if you want to emphasize what you're saying you should use stronger language. you know the whole "speak softly and carry a big stick" mentality. not the yosemite sam "i speak louder and carry a bigger stick" deal…
ooshi78
Originally posted by omae no kaasan v.2@Jul 1 2005, 08:56 PM
Thanks for understanding Ivotas ;)
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Hey no problem! ;) You can actually consider yourself lucky to have found it out this way that typing in caps means shouting in the online community. I for one learnd it a far more unpleasant way. However that lays all way back and I´m happy about it. :D
HEY GUYS LET'S FIND A BETTER SUBJECT TO DISCUSS!
Stephen, you're awesome.
Your yelling makes my ears go ouchie, stephen. :(
In any case…
Aren't those the cars detaching in the last panel? I could be wrong, but that, to me, insinuates Soge King already got away.
Which brings up how they'll deal with getting on Rocket Man, etc. ...
Originally posted by stephen@Jul 1 2005, 10:04 PM
HEY GUYS LET'S FIND A BETTER SUBJECT TO DISCUSS!
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Well if you insist, just in case it hasn´t been mentioned before: Franky´s centaur mode is so awesome, Lucci is an evil bastard and Sogeking rocks! :P ;)
I dunno if anyone noticed, but it appears that Hattori is laughing with Lucci..
I noticed. It looked even freakier with the two of them.
**Aren't those the cars detaching in the last panel? I could be wrong, but that, to me, insinuates Soge King already got away.
Which brings up how they'll deal with getting on Rocket Man, etc. …**
Nah. I don't think that they'll escape from CP9 that easy. And I still can't believe that Spandam is at the same level of strentgh as he was ten years before. A guys gotta advance if he wants to be the commander of a super-powered secret agents unit. Well, with that settled, here's a list of fights that might come up in the next chapters (I know this is overused, but I can't remember if anyone had mentioned these combinations):
Luffy vs Spandam ('cause Luffy always gets to beat the main villains)
Zoro vs Lucci (and Zoro gets the second strongest)
Sanji vs Kaku
Nami and Robin vs Kalifa ('cause Sanji probably wouldn't have the guts to hit her)
Usopp and Chopper vs Blueno
Originally posted by Green Hair@Jul 1 2005, 10:30 PM
Luffy vs Spandam ('cause Luffy always gets to beat the main villains)
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Luffy already said that he is going to kicks Lucci´s ass. Once Luffy determines his rival fighting him is as sure to happen as to hear the amen in a curch.
It was just a speculation. It'll probably be like you said.
hm.. sogeking's nose seems very… bad placed.. at least, the mask seems.. well, is sogeking.. REALLY usopp?
Originally posted by Rakuen@Jul 1 2005, 05:09 PM
hm.. sogeking's nose seems very… bad placed.. at least, the mask seems.. well, is sogeking.. REALLY usopp?
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Lol, yes it does look quite odd on the last panel :lol:
Loved this chapter!