The hands repell everything. Sogekings Fire bird was repelled to, so I guess elementar attacks are no problem for him. Of course, the repelled attack won't hurt the logia user, since he's immune to his own element, but it still would work against a lot of Logia moves like Aces fire fist or Kizarus laser.
I guess the only way to hurt Kuma is to get him off-guard, like Zoro did. And of course sigh haki.
The Top 10 Non-Logia Devil Fruits
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The hands repell everything. Sogekings Fire bird was repelled to, so I guess elementar attacks are no problem for him. Of course, the repelled attack won't hurt the logia user, since he's immune to his own element, but it still would work against a lot of Logia moves like Aces fire fist or Kizarus laser.
I guess the only way to hurt Kuma is to get him off-guard, like Zoro did. And of course sigh haki.Kuma has just 2 Hands, I think Kizaru is too fast for him, also I think 3 Pacifsitas are enought to take him down.
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A battle between Kuma and Kizaru would be hilarious, both of them just teleporting around all the time.
And a pacifista is no match for kuma. They are way too slow for Kuma, and the attacks they cast are easly possible to repell. He's still a experienced fighter and very capable of using his Devil Fruit. He just didn't had the chance to shine against a worthy enemy. -
haha I find it pretty badass in general for oda to take something like "a guy who has paws" and make all those abilities out of animal paws, you would think paws would be like him growing animal finger nails instead of teleporting and repelling stuff.
Heres my list
Bonneys - Think about it, if you really can control age you could virtually own anybody and everybody by turning them into an infant, if it works against logias then thats a win
Kumas - Teleportation, repelling, everything else, the main reason its so badass is that kuma is a cyborg and if you DO get an attack on him it doesnt affect him much.
Laws - Untouchable if you know when something comes into your circle, not sure about logias though, it seems like it would be pretty useless unless he found their natural weakness
Doflamingos - control anybody and everybody as far as we know.
Morias - Cut of someones shadow and their dead if the sun hits them, control shadows, etc.
Luffys - with gear two and third makes his pretty amazing
Mr 5.s - bomb fruit, so much potential but wasted on a crappy character, maybe they'll find him in impel down and he'll be better ._. (just kidding incase your a douchebag)
Alvidas - untouchable without explosions or something that uses a radius
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Mr 5.s - bomb fruit, so much potential but wasted on a crappy character, maybe they'll find him in impel down and he'll be better ._.
Is it just me, or are bombs excessively weak in the OP-verse? Anyway, Mr 5 isn't in ID, all BW members in ID have been released already (mr 0 through mr 3). Mr 5 is with everyone else at Spider's Cafe (as per the cover story arc).
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You see, this is what happens when you don't read the cover stories. You look stupid.
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You see, this is what happens when you don't read the cover stories. You look stupid.
you look stupid because I was kidding douchebag
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Yeah, because that would have been the funniest joke.
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does everyone have to use the Japanese names for these fruits?
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I really like scratchman apoo's, mostly because I play a lot of instruments.
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You see, this is what happens when you try to save face by calling your stupidity a joke. You look even more stupid.
gomu=gum
bomu=bomb
kilo=kiloSome of them are very easy to figure out.
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I didn't see the invisiblity fruit in any list? (unless it was stated in japanese). Anyway, invisibility fruit is definitely in my top 10 hands down.
My list in no particular order:
Drake's Fruit: You turn to a t-rex, i mean c'mon, how awesome is that?
Pell's Falcon mode fruit: Imagine if usopp gets this fruit and in one of his mode, he grows a pair of wing but retains human form (like an angel) and he just flies up and start shooting from above.
Invisibilility Fruit: Given to a swordsman like zoro, he's moves will be harder to predict.
Paw Paw fruit
Shadow Fruit
Kidd's Fruit
Magellan's Fruit
Mero Mero Fruit: Make everyone your slave, you won't even have to fight anyone if this is the case cause even if there are some people who are immune to it, if you get some really strong fighters under your command then they could just fight for you.
The Doorknob fruit: Very nice for escaping and plotting strategies.
Alvida's Fruit
Kilo Kilo fruit: i think this fruit is being underestimated, if a fighter owns this fruit (like sanji for example) he could just increase the weight of his leg before each swing to deal more damage. -
Pell's Falcon mode fruit: Imagine if usopp gets this fruit and in one of his mode, he grows a pair of wing but retains human form (like an angel) and he just flies up and start shooting from above.
Yeah Ussop would rock with a bird type fruit. I see him as a woodpecker myself.
Is it just me, or are bombs excessively weak in the OP-verse? Anyway, Mr 5 isn't in ID, all BW members in ID have been released already (mr 0 through mr 3). Mr 5 is with everyone else at Spider's Cafe (as per the cover story arc).
Well all he really blew up was boogers and his breath. So it yeah it should be pretty weak. That one explosive clothesline was pretty impressive though.
Kilo Kilo fruit: i think this fruit is being underestimated, if a fighter owns this fruit (like sanji for example) he could just increase the weight of his leg before each swing to deal more damage.
Indeed. The 5/val combo has probably been the worst used DF's in OP.
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Well all he really blew up was boogers and his breath. So it yeah it should be pretty weak. That one explosive clothesline was pretty impressive though.
Well, I'm not just talking about Mr 5 necessarily (though his kickbomb to Luffy's face was fairly unimpressive too). Pretty much anything that blows up seems to do less damage to people than it should. The best example is Pell of course. Luffy has been hit with plenty of cannonballs (why do they explode again?). Even the Buggy bomb at the beginning didn't manage to kill anyone, or even make them unable to fight. Fodder characters who got blown up by it were pretending to be unconscious.
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You clearly don't understand how Zoans work. We've already seen both of Pell's Fruit-powered forms, and neither gave him both wings and graspers that are on his arms. Unless you're saying he could go full bird and use the talons on his feet! And unless it's the Hummingbird model- the only bird that can fly in place.
You mean the Door Door Fruit? Where the Hell did "knob" come from?
I think you mean lightening his feet at the beginning so that he can swing it faster, and then making it heavier just before his foot connects. Many people before you have proposed this, although not with Sanji in paticular.
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You clearly don't understand how Zoans work. We've already seen both of Pell's Fruit-powered forms, and neither gave him both wings and graspers that are on his arms. Unless you're saying he could go full bird and use the talons on his feet! And unless it's the Hummingbird model- the only bird that can fly in place.
It's true that he has talons, but he can use them as hands. http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/170/06/ shows him gripping a sword to use it in combat while in flight.
You seem to be having an off day, CN.
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I See No Wings.
The forum cencors all-caps. Lame.
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You clearly don't understand how Zoans work. We've already seen both of Pell's Fruit-powered forms, and neither gave him both wings and graspers that are on his arms. Unless you're saying he could go full bird and use the talons on his feet! And unless it's the Hummingbird model- the only bird that can fly in place.
You mean the Door Door Fruit? Where the Hell did "knob" come from?
I think you mean lightening his feet at the beginning so that he can swing it faster, and then making it heavier just before his foot connects. Many people before you have proposed this, although not with Sanji in paticular.
Wow, what a nazi.
Anyway, to answer your questions, im clearly no Mr-I-know-everything-onepiece like YOU are but i was basing off usopp's zoan like chopper's zoan, more than 2 forms! Hell, where is it stated that zoans only have 2 forms?
Most doors have a knob fool. Plus it sounds better than Door door, i mean wtf, do we have to repeat everything twice just to match the japanese version? Besides, how do you open a door (that is not automatic)? You twist the knob :O.
And for the last one omg, its already implied that way. Thats like announcing to everyone that the sun will rise tomorrow.
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I See No Wings.
The forum cencors all-caps. Lame.
check again the wings are right there top frame
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Anyway, to answer your questions, im clearly no Mr-I-know-everything-onepiece like YOU are but i was basing off usopp's zoan like chopper's zoan, more than 2 forms! Hell, where is it stated that zoans only have 2 forms?
It should be 3 forms. Original form, form of the animal, and half/half. You bring up a damn good point though. Chopper should be sharing his rumble balls with his allies. How stingy. I wonder how potentially awesome Pell could be with rumble balls.
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It should be 3 forms. Original form, form of the animal, and half/half. You bring up a damn good point though. Chopper should be sharing his rumble balls with his allies. How stingy. I wonder how potentially awesome Pell could be with rumble balls.
Talon-Point! Beak-Point! Feather-Point!
Yeah, killer.
And if he can develop something like this for Zoans, why not for Paramecia? Get to the lab, Chopper!Just wanted to say that Noro Noro (Foxys fruit) is definitely top 10 material. That pompous jerk off could have made an effort, Noro Noro Field, Noro Noro Sphere, toggle speed, vary duration, etc.
About the Bomb fruit, Im glad it didnt get too much play. Not really inventive.
And meat-eater Bonneys fruit is up there as well. If she should fail at pirating, she can always open a beauty parlour where she offers rejuvenation cures.
Imagine having Robin as a secretary. Women CAN multitask:wub:
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Wow, what a nazi.
Anyway, to answer your questions, im clearly no Mr-I-know-everything-onepiece like YOU are but i was basing off usopp's zoan like chopper's zoan, more than 2 forms! Hell, where is it stated that zoans only have 2 forms?
Most doors have a knob fool. Plus it sounds better than Door door, i mean wtf, do we have to repeat everything twice just to match the japanese version? Besides, how do you open a door (that is not automatic)? You twist the knob :O.
And for the last one omg, its already implied that way. Thats like announcing to everyone that the sun will rise tomorrow.
For future reference, calling people nazis at random is the trademark of a butthurt half-wit.
I think what Urouge missed here is that you think Zoans can have however many forms they want, which I assure you is bullshit. Lucci, for instance, trained for several years to get his fourth form. No other Zoan shown thus far is nearly that dedicated.
Blueno doesn't need knobs. The entire point of his Fruit Power is that he can make a door by pushing literally anything.
I doubt you even know what it means to imply. Not only was I generous enough to begin the sentance with "I think you mean", but no, what you meant wasn't obvious at all. What you mean to say is only obvious when you actually say it correctly.
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That forth form was life control shown by Kumadori not a Zoan ability he used Bio feedback to slim himself and made him faster with excahnge for power
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all the supernovas…....
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You see, this is what happens when you try to save face by calling your stupidity a joke. You look even more stupid.
gomu=gum
bomu=bomb
kilo=kiloSome of them are very easy to figure out.
im saying it for people who arent exactly the craziest of one piece fans and know every single japanese name for the fruits by heart.
go cry.
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How pathetic that you can't even keep your story straight. Either you were "joking" or you were "saying it for those who don't know", in which case you would have blantantly mentioned that he is in fact working in the Spider Cafe. Which is to assume you even remember what this arguement is about.
Why are there so many fools so unwilling to admit their mistakes?
Edit: Ah, you most certainly don't remember. Mr.5's location has nothing to do with Devil Fruit names.
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Sounds to me like you'll just write down all the Devil Fruits that are named thus far. That's right, I'm calling you out you cheater!
is that a white flag?????
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More like a red flag, as in it's a retarded contest to be had especially on the Internet.
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More like a red flag, as in it's a retarded contest to be had especially on the Internet.
so does that mean you refuse my challenge??? Oh this sucks I already memorize all zoan df, I studied df last night instead on focusing on my finals, fuck this.
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See there? Get too competitive and everybody looses.
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For future reference, calling people nazis at random is the trademark of a butthurt half-wit.
I think what Urouge missed here is that you think Zoans can have however many forms they want, which I assure you is bullshit. Lucci, for instance, trained for several years to get his fourth form. No other Zoan shown thus far is nearly that dedicated.
Blueno doesn't need knobs. The entire point of his Fruit Power is that he can make a door by pushing literally anything.
I doubt you even know what it means to imply. Not only was I generous enough to begin the sentance with "I think you mean", but no, what you meant wasn't obvious at all. What you mean to say is only obvious when you actually say it correctly.
For future reference: Elitist morons can't use slang words like butthurt, let alone mix it with half-wit.
Anyway, you maybe right on some of them but i never said that Zoans could have as many forms as they want. Where did i say that? Quote it pls. All i said is that it is never written that you zoans only have 2 forms just because it is never shown that a flying zoan could stay in place while flying doesn't mean it couldn't exist, you're not oda to state that.
And while you're at it, you can call everyone here idiot or stupid for all i care, nobody here needs to save face from anyone, thats the beauty of internet. People who are too scared to confront someone outside of the real world can do just that in forums like this. In fact, that could be the only reason why you're hating on everyone here. I mean seriously, its okay to correct someone but do you have to make them sound stupid?
Im not exactly butthurt or anything but it just really grinds my gear when supposedly "smart" or "strong" people gets all high and mighty by putting down other people and they think they are better than everyone else. I usually just ignore it in the internet where there is an abundant number of elitists (more than the number of idiots) and each one of them thinks they are better than the others, but in your case, its just really irritating.
Im not tryna get marked as flaming so im just gonna leave as is, you can tell me to whine some more or whatever idc, have fun behind that monitor of yours while you claim victory. My replies end here D:
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For future reference: Elitist morons can't use slang words like butthurt, let alone mix it with half-wit.
Anyway, you maybe right on some of them but i never said that Zoans could have as many forms as they want. Where did i say that? Quote it pls. All i said is that it is never written that you zoans only have 2 forms just because it is never shown that a flying zoan could stay in place while flying doesn't mean it couldn't exist, you're not oda to state that.
And while you're at it, you can call everyone here idiot or stupid for all i care, nobody here needs to save face from anyone, thats the beauty of internet. People who are too scared to confront someone outside of the real world can do just that in forums like this. In fact, that could be the only reason why you're hating on everyone here. I mean seriously, its okay to correct someone but do you have to make them sound stupid?
Im not exactly butthurt or anything but it just really grinds my gear when supposedly "smart" or "strong" people gets all high and mighty by putting down other people and they think they are better than everyone else. I usually just ignore it in the internet where there is an abundant number of elitists (more than the number of idiots) and each one of them thinks they are better than the others, but in your case, its just really irritating.
Im not tryna get marked as flaming so im just gonna leave as is, you can tell me to whine some more or whatever idc, have fun behind that monitor of yours while you claim victory. My replies end here D:
ROASTED….…......................
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For future reference: Elitist morons can't use slang words like butthurt, let alone mix it with half-wit.
Anyway, you maybe right on some of them but i never said that Zoans could have as many forms as they want. Where did i say that? Quote it pls. All i said is that it is never written that you zoans only have 2 forms just because it is never shown that a flying zoan could stay in place while flying doesn't mean it couldn't exist, you're not oda to state that.
And while you're at it, you can call everyone here idiot or stupid for all i care, nobody here needs to save face from anyone, thats the beauty of internet. People who are too scared to confront someone outside of the real world can do just that in forums like this. In fact, that could be the only reason why you're hating on everyone here. I mean seriously, its okay to correct someone but do you have to make them sound stupid?
Im not exactly butthurt or anything but it just really grinds my gear when supposedly "smart" or "strong" people gets all high and mighty by putting down other people and they think they are better than everyone else. I usually just ignore it in the internet where there is an abundant number of elitists (more than the number of idiots) and each one of them thinks they are better than the others, but in your case, its just really irritating.
Im not tryna get marked as flaming so im just gonna leave as is, you can tell me to whine some more or whatever idc, have fun behind that monitor of yours while you claim victory. My replies end here D:
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There are a couple, Law's, Hawkin's and Brook's to name a few, there are a couple that stand out but these are the ones that stand out most.
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Cheesy heart-filled speeches like that usually have the most meaning when the one you're mouthing off to understand what you're saying. Otherwise, you're just re-inforcing his perception that you are unworthy of being able to communicate at all. I also find it funny that you think yourself to be the law-maker of "elitists".
"you zoans". Wait, I'm a Zoan? What animal do I become? "it is never shown that a flying zoan could stay in place while flying doesn't mean it couldn't exist" Here's the meat of what I was talking about, although I'll pretend I understood anyway.
We all know Oda loves Science and only defies it when he strictly plans on it. It is also a known fact that hummingbirds are the only non-insects that are able to fly in place due to the rapid flapping of their wings. Any and all bigger birds flap more slowly and are therefore unable to stay in place while flying. I am willing to bet that if there is a hummingbird model for the Bird Bird Fruit, Oda would have the user flying in place even though they're too big. But he wouldn't have this happen with any other flight-related Zoan, unless he starts introducing bug Zoans. Besides, I believe it is Chopper that says Zoans only have three forms total, while explaining the purpose of his Rumble Balls to Chessmarimo. Do you see how paying attention works to your benefit?
If you didn't care that I'm correcting the mistakes of others, you wouldn't have complained about it for two entire paragraphs. Lastly, I think just as lowly of myself as I think highly. This would be vastly more obvious if you did meet me in real life because, you see…I am inflicted with autism. While I am unable to speak correctly in real life, people like you simply don't speak correctly because you are lazy and impulsive.
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hey CN.
Its just an manga, calm down :p. No need to get bent out of shape.
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Doflamingo's fruit could be potentially devastating seeing that it can make you kill your friends. Also the fruit Blackbeard has is deadly as shown by him destroying an entire city with it, and it can negate all other devil fruits' powers.
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Why is it every time I am attacked by bratty little shits who respond to every threat to their glass-like ego as if it's the end of the world, I'm the one accused of getting bent out of shape? It's like the Internet equivalent of an Outer Limits episode.
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Why is it every time I am attacked by bratty little shits who respond to every threat to their glass-like ego as if it's the end of the world, I'm the one accused of getting bent out of shape? It's like the Internet equivalent of an Outer Limits episode.
because you are the one getting bent out of shape most of the time
anyways back on topic.
I think if Bonneys DOES control age, hers would be the best because she could just turn everyone into infants, thus making them helpless.
Or doflamingos, with the little we know about it, if he can control people like puppets and they cant do anything about it, what more is there to say?
Blackbeards is one seeing the only thing that seems like that could beat it so far is haki since it makes others devil fruit powers useless.
most of the tops that have been mentioned are pretty evened out it seems like.
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I get no more "bent out of shape" than any other logical thinker who is pestered by noobs.
Bonney's Fruit Power easily makes her my favorite non-Strawhat in the entire series. One beam and you have a whole nother childhood!
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i think im the only one who thinks bellamy's was horribly used.
his may be my favorite. :3
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No, there are plenty who think of Bellamy as a pompus jackass. Which is probably because it's true. I would've liked him to stop on mid-punch, confusing Luffy, only to load his fist with a spring and let loose. Not that he would have done any more damage, but we really only saw one move out of him.
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Personally I think All DF have potential to become top 10 as it depends on the user.
But if I have to insist on some good DF
Noro Noro DF- make your opponets really really slow… unless logia you can just slash your enemy and you win (If it wasnt a devy beck fight, Foxy COULD have deafeted Luffy.)
Doru Doru No Mi- Mr.3's fruit reason is that This fruit can be used in many ways and
have a one hit kill move.Door Df- Bluno's DF you can do many things with this DF
Kuma;s DF- Obivious,
Boeny's DF- Age your opponet and can control your age, definetly one of the best DF
HIna hina no mi- Robin's DF, EVen with all the restriction and all, ITs just a really powerful DF that Swordman or Martial Artist will have huge Disadvantage..
Bera Bera no mo- Oda's Favorite and if you really think about it, the potential of this
Fruit was not really shown as Buggy tend to be a comic relief character, but if used right deadly.Zoan Fruits- I wont specify a type but since this fruit increase your basic strength and all the stuff shown by CP9. Zoan fruits are definetly a good fruit, the only bad part about is you have to TRAIN HARD!.
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As most people has already said, paw paw fruit is a overkill.
First, teleporting around to confuse.
Second, Hit people like 20 feet away. And If they are too strong, just blast them away to anywere. "Heya bitchas, If you wanted to go somewere, were would that be?"
Third, HE CAN EXPEL PAIN!!! LEIK UBERCHEAT!!
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I think if Bonneys DOES control age, hers would be the best because she could just turn everyone into infants, thus making them helpless.
Yeah I was thinking about that for a minute, and somehow I think its still about will-power. Baby Luffy would still kick her ass. Gomu Gomu no Baby Pistol!!!
Or picture Aokiji: Mini Ice Time!
I mean, from what we saw from the soldiers, only their bodies aged. I listed her as well, but not just for fighting ability.PS Thinking about it, if Luffy continues using Gear Third he will have to learn to fight in mini form. The last time he already looked more badass and less surprised.
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Yeah I was thinking about that for a minute, and somehow I think its still about will-power. Baby Luffy would still kick her ass. Gomu Gomu no Baby Pistol!!!
Or picture Aokiji: Mini Ice Time!
I mean, from what we saw from the soldiers, only their bodies aged. I listed her as well, but not just for fighting ability.PS Thinking about it, if Luffy continues using Gear Third he will have to learn to fight in mini form. The last time he already looked more badass and less surprised.
haha I bet if later in the future luffy DOES face off with bonney, he'll use gear third, dodge her aging beam (if she has a beam, I cant remember how she does it). She thinks she hit him, and when he pops up tiny she'll be like "yes I got him". He goes back to normal and owns her.
I could see that happening.
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Considering how many Marines had been babified, I'm confident that it is a beam. They were so suprised as if it were sudden.
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Considering how many Marines had been babified, I'm confident that it is a beam. They were so suprised as if it were sudden.
maybe her ability doesnt change their mindset. but just their appearance.
Like, they'll be exactly the same as before, only they'll be smaller.
Just an idea, because if not then yes she has one of the most powerful fruits.
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As I recall, it was proven just as it soon as it was shown: A baby Marine reports that he's been turned into a baby. Why is this even a theory?
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As I recall, it was proven just as it soon as it was shown: A baby Marine reports that he's been turned into a baby. Why is this even a theory?
not sure, ive only re-read it once.
When I read it I thought it was an adult marine reporting that "he" as in his comrades has been turned into a baby.
Chapter?