Well he can`t be 11 since we last saw him 20 years back.
Akainu/Sakazuki Discussion
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can I call Akainu ending up having a sort of laser ability, where he just creates a red light saber, and fights jedi-style, only to reveal to Franky that he is his dad? then he cuts off franky's arm and franky ends up rebuilding it, ergo, the franky upgrade of that arc.
failing at that, how about simply some form of energy? would complete the logia/personality triangle, his ability being massively powerful, red in general colour (seeing as how light isnt exactly yellow, nor ice blue) and he'd have to be really angry/hyped up, in contrast to aokiji's coolness and kizaru's fun side.
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…I thought Franky`s dad was a pirate, not a marine Admiral...
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ah, see, that's the twist. luke thought his father died fighting the Sith… see how it's all unravelling?
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So a random comment. Some of my students are convinced he'll be based on Beat Takeshi.
Found a picture of him and had a question (Spoilered cause it's big):
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Is that scar below his left eye a real scar he has or just makeup? If it's real, he'd be perfect for the role because it would be like a "Mirror" of Luffy.
As for his DF, my guess is Clay, Blood, or Red Syrup. Yes, Syrup. But… didn't we already have a guy (in filler) who ate a Syrup fruit?
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But… didn't we already have a guy (in filler) who ate a Syrup fruit?
It was a girl. Also I don't really see a scar under that guy's left eye. I see a crease but no scar. It like a line…... I dunno it might be make up or an attempt to cover up a more clearer scar.
can I call Akainu ending up having a sort of laser ability, where he just creates a red light saber, and fights jedi-style, only to reveal to Franky that he is his dad? then he cuts off franky's arm and franky ends up rebuilding it, ergo, the franky upgrade of that arc.
I like it but it is a little too much like Star Wars(the arm, the father thing), then again I could see Oda paying homage to Star Wars by doing that with Franky lol. Thing is Franky would start tearing up, being emotional and most likely ruin the epicness of that scene lol.
failing at that, how about simply some form of energy?
I like it, if not lava I'd settle for something like plasma.
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I was kidding about the light saber thing entirely, I just thought of a nice parallel between OPand SW. My guess is still that it's energy, possibly in the form of lava (seeing as how lava is heated rock, rock, with additional energy added to raise the temperature) or, my top bet, some fiendishly powerful close combat ability, that will really show his rottweiler-like fierceness. rabies rabies fruit anyone?
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Reading some more Japanese theories on who Akainu's model will be.
Another good one I've heard is Antonio Inoki based on his rather large chin we caught a glimpse of. Hmmm. Interesting. But….it would be a little goofy.
I can't help but wonder if his awkwardly large hood is hiding something that would otherwise be a dead giveaway. Another afro'd character perhaps? If so there's that Japanese boxer whose name escapes me at the moment. But he's not as physically imposing as Sakazuki so…
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Was his hood awkwardly large? I thought it was just a normal hood…
What interests me if thouse 2 large things on the sides of his head on the silhouette is a part of his haircut or clothes. -
Was his hood awkwardly large? I thought it was just a normal hood…
It hit me as what I'd describe as awkwardly large.
Regarding the shadow we saw, it seems that the middle would be Kizaru just wearing a formal hat. The shadows appear to be in the order Robin names them. While this cannot be proven it just makes sense. We've seen John Giant with a similar hat.
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Why would he wear a hat in the silhouette? :) I mean seems like illogical.
Can't be prooven till we see Sakazuki though, but I'll stick to the thought that the order of figures and names Robin gave got mixed.
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Why would he wear a hat in the silhouette? :) I mean seems like illogical.
Not if it's part of his formal uniform.
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On the subject of which silhouette belongs to which admiral, check the marine chart in the yellow databook. Kizaru's the one with the weird hat/hair. It probably just didn't make it to the final design.
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Thank you Khamolen for definitive evidence.
I still don't think it's a matter of it being dropped or not. Altered? Yeah sure, we saw that transpire with BB's crew. But not dropped. I just don't think we've seen them in full formal uniform yet.
For example:
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I'm aware of that, however I'm sure that the stuff in databook like manga images collages are made by editors, not by Oda, so mistake could have easily slipped through. The way they were introduced in manga had a different feeling from anime.
I spent quite some time starring at the silhouettes I'll illustrate you what I mean as soon as I get home.
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I mean, I hope I wasn't the only one who thought of this when I first saw the hat:
That said, regardless of who arranged what in the databooks, they couldn't not have been completed without Oda. There are names, places and information in them that was not available in the story. They had to at least contact Oda regarding the information and his name is on the books. So the argument cannot be made that he is/was unaware of their contents.
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Man… Ofcourse Oda is in charge of writing info for databooks, but you don't think he was the one who made collages out of his own images, especially of the stuff we already knew.
As I said, give me a few hours and I'll draw how I look at it. -
This famous guy for Akainu?
He didn't have a beard in the flashback, but it doesn't mean he couldn't have it now.
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HAHA! Papaya? Interesting! ^O^
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Al!na this is for you!
I'm fairly strict when it comes to accepting mistakes on an author's part, so when they put their name on something I accept it as something they have reviewed and/or approve of. That's basically how I accept OP data books. I know Oda doesn't cross every t or dot every i but his name is on the cover so he accepts responsibility for it.
Well I found a big mistake in Yellow today.
I was researching (what I thought were just) Yagra out of curiosity when I came across something interesting. I had forgotten that 'Yagra' was merely a class of 'Bull'. This originally confused me because I was trying to piece together what the giant thing Luffy and Nami saw with the masked riders (rimshot) in the town was since it was large but obviously physically different from S&G whom I specifically remembered being 'King'-types.
So I went to Yellow to see if it would clear things up and that's where I found the error.
What really are 'Bulls' are listed as 'Yagra' which it describes as having different types such as King and Rabka. It then goes on to make an even bigger mistake by saying there are different sizes of these types within each class.
Whoever organized that information thought that all the creatures were Yagras and that S&G were large-type Yagra (which they thought 'King' indicated) when they are really King-type Bulls. Which, by the way, would seem to indicate that the large unidentified Bull seen in town was a Rabka-type Bull.
The important thing is that the comic still makes sense and that Yellow has false information. So Al!na, your hypothesis and argument has plenty of weight, even though I personally believe the shadows were in correct order.
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Yay! XD I
m glad you
re at last agree with me now about databooks :3
Thanks for the interesting info!
As for silluetes… I`m not sure about them myself now XD The more I look at them... The more I get confused XD
I got too lazy to draw, but this is what I wanted to say also:the difference between introducing in anime and manga
In manga Robin just named them one after another, picture is not centered with the bubbles, so Oda probably just drew it and then added text, I mean it DOES look like they are given names, especially with Aokiji being in the middle, but if they are actually not in order it wouldn
t be a mistake on Oda
s part. Im not prooving anything cause I
m not so very sure myself, but still~In other news, I found an old movie called Midare Karakuri in which both Kunie and Matsuda acted, I ordered myself a DVD, so I
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Akainu will be fodder to Usopp.
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why ussopp? do u know something i dnt (set myself up here)
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@Fire Fist:
This famous guy for Akainu?
http://wiki.d-addicts.com/static/images/6/6b/Papaya_Suzuki.jpg
He didn't have a beard in the flashback, but it doesn't mean he couldn't have it now.
If Akainu does have an afro, then he'll be unbeatable.
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Is it safe to assume that Akainu would beat the SH single-handedly down the line as well?
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Right :3 I watched Midari Karakuri.
1979`s Japanese detective story, the only movie where Tanaka Kunie and Yusaku Matsuda played together. I decided it was a must-see and bought a DVD.Yusaku was failrue detective (as always XD), Kunie his… boss in police/investigation departament I think (I watched it in Japanese and mine`s far from being fluent, mind you) and there was the other guy who had much screen time and who got killed in the middle of the movie, one of the owner of the evil maison or something.
But.
There was a long scene with them three and the other lady (also some kind of a detective I think) investigating in the forest. Take a look.Let me tweek the contrast a bit.
Coincedence? Or SMELLS LIKE WIN?!
Here`s a close-up of his face
I can
t make out actor
s name, japanese credits are evil T_T Pictures on google wont help me either. But I
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Wow. Looks promising.
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@Al!naJames:
Right :3 I watched Midari Karakuri.
1979`s Japanese detective story, the only movie where Tanaka Kunie and Yusaku Matsuda played together. I decided it was a must-see and bought a DVD.Yusaku was failrue detective (as always XD), Kunie his… boss in police/investigation departament I think (I watched it in Japanese and mine`s far from being fluent, mind you) and there was the other guy who had much screen time and who got killed in the middle of the movie, one of the owner of the evil maison or something.
But.
There was a long scene with them three and the other lady (also some kind of a detective I think) investigating in the forest. Take a look.http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/1364/snapshot20081121212925om8.jpg
Let me tweek the contrast a bit.
http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/7827/snapsho20081121212925mp4.jpg
Coincedence? Or SMELLS LIKE WIN?!
Here`s a close-up of his face
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/alinajames/album/snapshot20081121211522.jpg
I can
t make out actor
s name, japanese credits are evil T_T Pictures on google wont help me either. But I
m sure he`s pretty well-known. Help, anyone?I must say that's pretty sweet. I hope he does turn out to be that guy because that would 100% Certified Win.
PMing a mod to ban the spammer.
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here is the video if anyone
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So we're not guessing what Akainu's DF might be anymore but what he will look like? Hmmm okay
Fuck it then
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The best goddman detective the world will ever know
Columbo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> L & any other fictional or real life detective for that matter
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@Al!naJames:
Right :3 I watched Midari Karakuri.
1979`s Japanese detective story, the only movie where Tanaka Kunie and Yusaku Matsuda played together. I decided it was a must-see and bought a DVD.Yusaku was failrue detective (as always XD), Kunie his… boss in police/investigation departament I think (I watched it in Japanese and mine`s far from being fluent, mind you) and there was the other guy who had much screen time and who got killed in the middle of the movie, one of the owner of the evil maison or something.
But.
There was a long scene with them three and the other lady (also some kind of a detective I think) investigating in the forest. Take a look.[qimg]http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/1364/snapshot20081121212925om8.jpg[/qimg]
Let me tweek the contrast a bit.
[qimg]http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/7827/snapsho20081121212925mp4.jpg[/qimg]
Coincedence? Or SMELLS LIKE WIN?!
Here`s a close-up of his face
[qimg]http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/alinajames/album/snapshot20081121211522.jpg[/qimg]
I can
t make out actor
s name, japanese credits are evil T_T Pictures on google wont help me either. But I
m sure he`s pretty well-known. Help, anyone?i just gotta say that this is awesome. it would be badass if he made the cut as Akainu!
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Now i'm pretty sure that Oda will use Takeshi Kitano as Akainu.Kitano is know for insanely bloody and violent movies.
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Well many people are known for bloody and violent movies… And what? O_o
Im really tired of the Kitano talk... =_= He is not the **70s movie character with curly black hair.** He has no connections with other two. Besides he
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Easily the best idea I've heard. Any guesses I've made were merely wishful thinking but this is actual detective work (rimshot). Looks like we may have our man.
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Ah that`s such a relief to hear ^_^
I wish there were more info about Toru aviable in english so I could find more possible links in other movies he played in, I think there are at last 50. -
He's clearly gonna be Columbo, you guys have deluded yourselves
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I mean c'mon now this screams Admiral Akainu! -
Please, stop posting nonsence… I
m really trying hard to find more links here to be sure T_T It
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@Al!naJames:
Please, stop posting nonsence… I
m really trying hard to find more links here to be sure T_T It
s important to me, I`m a fan of the trio (read: geek).Fuck you. Funny how this thread has a specific topic and you decided to post something completely different and now tell me I'm posting nonsense.
If you want to guess who Akainu is make a thread about it. If you want to keep posting it in here don't criticize me for my guesses.
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I was not the one who started the talk about actor…
And were not just guessing out of nowhere, you see. We
re trying to follow LOGIC.
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@Zik:
Fuck you. Funny how this thread has a specific topic and you decided to post something completely different and now tell me I'm posting nonsense.
If you want to guess who Akainu is make a thread about it. If you want to keep posting it in here don't criticize me for my guesses.
Sometimes I agree with you on topics Zik, but this was totally uncalled for. James is actually posting interesting topics, and it seems (see as I put seems instead of looks) as if you are trying to stir everyone away from a clever idea with joke posts. Idk.
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@Al!naJames:
I was not the one who started the talk about actor…
And were not just guessing out of nowhere, you see. We
re trying to follow LOGIC.
You just talk nonsence… You have no rights to talk rude to me becuase of your own idiotism. T_TYes my "idiotism", it must boggle your mind.
@OldSnake:Sometimes I agree with you on topics Zik, but this was totally uncalled for. James is actually posting interesting topics, and it seems (see as I put seems instead of looks) as if you are trying to stir everyone away from a clever idea with joke posts. Idk.
Not so much it's just that for a person who once told me to stay on topic in a thread you'd think that person would stay on topic. This guess what real life person Akainu will be based off should be made in to it's own thread. I will admit I'm doing this in an asshole like manner but what goes around comes around.
Besides Akainu being based off Columbo would be cool imo.
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@Zik:
Not so much it's just that for a person who once told me to stay on topic in a thread you'd think that person would stay on topic. This guess what real life person Akainu will be based off should be made in to it's own thread. I will admit I'm doing this in an asshole like manner but what goes around comes around.
Besides Akainu being based off Columbo would be cool imo.
I understand that completely, but lately it's hard as hell to make a thread without at least
one modcoming out of nowhere saying"DIZ SHOULD BE IN DIZ THREAD I'M SHUTTING DOWNZ!"
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So I also understand why he would post the idea in this thread.
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I don
t see a reason for creating a new topic upon this - everybody already spoke their opinions on Akainu
s devil fruit and I cant see why discussing his model-actor would be an offtopic here… I
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Zik. You are taking things out of context. Any other Akainu related thread would likely get merged with this one, and your posts were either directly or indirectly insulting all the hard work that Al!naJames had put into this. On top of it, your grudge against her for the other topic is what is really out of context. In that thread Al!na didn't want people posting other works and works that weren't predictions. IE: Fanart and fan colorings. She wanted the thread to remain predictions and not turn into just a fanart and "post a colored pic" thread. The difference is that one is an ongoing and neverending thread (until the Manga completes), where another is just baseless speculation and exists to stimulate conversation – which she is doing, while staying fairly on topic. (Being as it is in regards to Akainu).
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On top of it, your grudge against her for the other topic is what is really out of context.
Honestly I would've done this anyway since I'm more interested in discussion dealing with what Akainu's DF would be.
Any other Akainu related thread would likely get merged with this one
Well I haven't seen many other Akainu threads, I don't know if I should take your word for it. I wasn't aware this is an all out everything Akainu thread.
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It isn't. It should be though. There was another thread merged with this one a while back. I figure lets just keep the peace.
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Thank you Brennen.
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James has right….the name of the actor is Toru Minegishi , bloody movies are the ones characteristic for him.So after i saw the movie on youtube and viewed his photo i'm 95% sure that he's the one.The rest of 5% goes to Takeshi Kitano.
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Great job, Alina!