yea the previous two chapters have been pretty boring. I'm not much of a fan Soifon and that other dude. Those two fraccion are lame too. The other fights look like they'll be interesting though. I particularly want to Barragan kick some arse.
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this would all have been done much quicker if barragan would of just pwnd all of the VC, komomaru and soi fon than preceded to do epic battle with genryusai
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Erm I like these chaptersO_O
We're finally getting exposition on seriously underused characters.
Weren't people bitching on how Kubo doesn't show off all his characters enough?
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its not that its a bad thing that hes showing off his minor chars but i just hate soi fon in general.
can we please get some shunsui action?
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this would all have been done much quicker if barragan would of just pwnd all of the VC, komomaru and soi fon than preceded to do epic battle with genryusai
You're saying Soifon < Hitsuga you're just bullshitting
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You're saying Soifon < Hitsuga you're just bullshitting
10th division captain: Hitsugaya Toushirou
Power: 80
Defence: 80
Mobility: 90
Kidou/Reiatsu: 90
Wisdom: 80
Stamina: 802nd Captain: Soifon
Power: 80
Defence: 60
Mobility: 100
Kidou/Reiatsu: 60
Wisdom: 60
Stamina: 100She would have made a good vice captain though.
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Wait where the fuck are you pulling those figures some crappy card game which is less reliable than filler?
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No, those figures are from the official guidebook.
As in, made(or at least aproved) by Kubo himself. :p
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The offical guidebook also states Kenpachi as the weakest captain so therefore all captains should be able to walk all over Niotira or Grimmjaw oh wait they can't.
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The offical guidebook also states Kenpachi as the weakest captain so therefore all captains should be able to walk all over Niotira or Grimmjaw oh wait they can't.
Go figure.Having no skill in Kidou sure is a drag on his average score. Also this particular character makes it very obvious how arbitrary those categories are. For example pairing Kidou with Reiatsu like that clearly doesn't work, if there are no further explanations provided that is.
11th division captain: Zaraki Kenpachi
Battle stats
Power: 100
Defence: 80
Mobility: 60
Kidou/Reiatsu: 0
Wisdom: 50
Stamina: 100I think everyone here knows how much sense the power levels in bleach make. You can make up your own background stories to explain them but in the end that part of the manga is just inconsistent.
All I wanted to say is
A:That Hitsugaya>SoiFon probably isn't the weakest of all cases you can possibly make and
B:I'm with everyone who wants her team to make way for the main act.The SoiFon&Omaeda combo is just annoying to me. Let's hope she makes up for the last two chapters with a halfway decent Bankai.
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Well even story-wise, he's the weakest in terms of overall ability.
Thing is, he's just so fucking insane that none of that matters.
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The offical guidebook also states Kenpachi as the weakest captain so therefore all captains should be able to walk all over Niotira or Grimmjaw oh wait they can't.
Go figure.Considering no other Captains fought Nnoitra, you can't really validate that statement. All the Captains except Kenpachi (at that time) and Byakuya have been shown to be stronger than Ichigo, and Byakuya's fight had Hollow form interfere with the fight.
As for Soifon, she technically is Vice Captain level, at least from what we've seen. She was basically given the position when Yoruichi flew the coop.
I'm curious now, I know Shinji obviously has the top stats for the Vaizard, but how does Kensei and Rose do? Though, I doubt the current Data Book has their stats as Captains / Vice Captains yet.
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Do you guys base you percivement of strength purely of data books?
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Well even story-wise, he's the weakest in terms of overall ability.
Thing is, he's just so fucking insane that none of that matters.
You forgot awesome. How could you forget awesome?!?:cwy:
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Do you guys base you percivement of strength purely of data books?
This page included the data book stats probably weren't even mentioned 10 times in the whole thread.
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You're saying Soifon < Hitsuga you're just bullshitting
no I was mentioning everyone that fought against barragan directly thus including his fraccions these people would be:
Kira, Ikkaku, Oemaeda, Soi fon, Kommomaru, Iba, yamichika, 69 dude (his name escapes me once again). Did I forget anyone?
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i hate him too
Kenpatchi and Shunsui NUMBAH 1!
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Heh heh, Kon. Does he still exist?
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im still waiting for retsu to show what she gots cause i believe she is just as strong as yamamoto or even stronger
i thought that when they showed her that she was going to kick some ass but again they showed more of her bad assness by scaring people by her smile or haki XD ( sorry little one piece joke )
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Erm, I like Hitsugaya. I think he's cool
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anyone got predictions for next chapter: I predict soi fon's ban kai (lol)
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Soi fon's bankai. Then the chapter will end with the Stark's fraccion girl fight starting or the continuation of Matsumoto's 3 fraccion fight.
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Wouldn't mind seeing Soi Fon's Bankai but seeing it that she seems to be about to finish her opponent off without actually having used her Shikai to it's full potential I'd rather not expect too much. I'd actually be happy already to see her Shikai succeed in finishing somebody of.
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Wouldn't mind seeing Soi Fon's Bankai but seeing it that she seems to be about to finish her opponent off without actually having used her Shikai to it's full potential I'd rather not expect too much. I'd actually be happy already to see her Shikai succeed in finishing somebody of.
What potential? It's the most useless, boring ability of them all. I'm already afraid of what her bankai might be. ZOMG ITS A ONE HIT KILL!!!
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I can't wait for her to release her bankai next chapter just so that she can explain what it does again during her Espada fight.
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What potential? It's the most useless, boring ability of them all. I'm already afraid of what her bankai might be. ZOMG ITS A ONE HIT KILL!!!
Excuse me, potential was the wrong word. I actually just want to see her skill get the job done. And though it might not be spectacular I personally find such sleazy killing skills somehow attractive.
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What potential? It's the most useless, boring ability of them all. I'm already afraid of what her bankai might be. ZOMG ITS A ONE HIT KILL!!!
The fastest person in bleach can kill instantly you if you get hit by her, even minorly, twice on the same spot. This does not scream useless.
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The fastest person in bleach can kill instantly you if you get hit by her, even minorly, twice on the same spot. This does not scream useless.
It is useless in the context of this manga because instant kills don't make for good fights. I admit now that she is actually allowed to kill her opponent it's not totally useless anymore but it's still rather boring to look at. It wouldn't be shounen anymore if people actually used efficient ways to deal with an opponent so whenever a character is given that kind of ability you know it'll be very restricted in its use on named characters.
lol@fastest :D
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It wouldn't be shounen anymore if people actually used efficient ways to deal with an opponent
Kenshirou says hello.
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Proof that things aren't as good as they used to be.
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New spoilers:
! -Soifon seems to get serious and defeats Ggio
-Barragan finally "stands up".
-Cuts back to Matsumoto vs. Halibel's trio
-Cliffhanger involves a "fireball" attacking them…people are predicting Momo (which makes sense due to Tobiume) but somehow I hope for Nanao too.Y'know, Negima WAS awesome…
For the first 18 volumes.
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Yes Kubo, just what I always wanted. More side characters to enter the battle and get 2-3 chapters.
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Matsumoto is no side character. She is medium captain level:
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I still say go with the flow with this nonsense: personally I still say this is the last chance many of these characters will get in this series so just let them have their fights. Personally though I hope we do get Nanao…mostly since she has yet to really have a fight, but seeing Momo go nuts again with Aizen right behind that firewall listening would be a fun change of pace.
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Matsumoto is no side character. She is medium captain level:
1 Fraccion < 3 Fraccion = Soi fon < MatsumotoDid you read the spoiler. It looks like someone is coming to help Matsumoto in her fight. Probably momo. I wouldn't be surprised if a 3rd character ends up showing up to help the fight. Hey we haven't seen Kaien's brother and sister in a while. Let's have one of them fight next.
FYI Matsumoto is a side character. And until she learns bankai she's not at captain level.
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Did you read the spoiler. It looks like someone is coming to help Matsumoto in her fight. Probably momo. I wouldn't be surprised if a 3rd character ends up showing up to help the fight. Hey we haven't seen Kaien's brother and sister in a while. Let's have one of them fight next.
FYI Matsumoto is a side character. And until she learns bankai she's not at captain level.
I'd love to see the Shibas return but…somehow ever since Ichigo and SS made friends, everyone else there dissapeared from relevance. Too bad, considering Ganjuu had cool abilities and Kuukaku should be even better being more experience and older.
Y'know, Negima WAS awesome…
For the first 18 volumes.
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@Tokoro:
I'd love to see the Shibas return but…somehow ever since Ichigo and SS made friends, everyone else there dissapeared from relevance. Too bad, considering Ganjuu had cool abilities and Kuukaku should be even better being more experience and older.
Yeah I wouldn't mind them returning but not them fighting. Kubo doesn't have to have every single character fight in the manga. It's also annoying how he'll have a character fight again and he'll have them once again explain thier swords techniques. It's up to the point now where it's become canon filler.
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As is now, it's one part stretching the story, one part fanservice and one part "last hoorah" in my head. Many of the characters fighting now, essentially VCs, have no further importance to this story after this current set of fights. Once they're done, Kubo doesn't have to use them anymore and can move on without us wondering any further what they can do. My brain is turned off regarding Bleach recently so it's not like I care anymore if he stretches it out in this way.
Y'know, Negima WAS awesome…
For the first 18 volumes.
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@Tokoro:
As is now, it's one part stretching the story, one part fanservice and one part "last hoorah" in my head. Many of the characters fighting now, essentially VCs, have no further importance to this story after this current set of fights. Once they're done, Kubo doesn't have to use them anymore and can move on without us wondering any further what they can do. My brain is turned off regarding Bleach recently so it's not like I care anymore if he stretches it out in this way.
Nah this is Bleach. He'll find some way to reintroduce the weaker characters during the King's Key arc with them re-explaining their weapons again. Most likely more Fraccions since they're basically fodder arrancar.
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Nah this is Bleach. He'll find some way to reintroduce the weaker characters during the King's Key arc with them re-explaining their weapons again. Most likely more Fraccions since they're basically fodder arrancar.
He has an excuse now since many of the weaker characters got no exposure or some of their secrets not even explained or revealed during SS…heck, Hisagi and Oomaeda getting their Shikai finally explained better made that worth it. I say though that Kubo will just forget anyone he's finished with outside Ichigo's group and a couple fan favorites (sighs...Shrimpo better not go with them to the King's Dimension) once many of them finally get a chance to show off.
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the spoiler seems to be alright.
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good lord, i have no idea who's worse at creating chapter endings, Kubo or Kishimoto.
They always seem to like ending chapters without revealing the face of the latest person to appear, only to disappoint everyone when they do reveal that mystery character.
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Hmmmm… enter Gin!?
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I'm guessing it's Ishida, since it seemed to me the arrancar was shot by a arrow.
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I'm guessing it's Ishida, since it seemed to me the arrancar was shot by a arrow.
How can it be Ishida when:
1.) The shot fired was clearly a fireball, not an arrow.
2.) He's trapped in Hueco Mundo just like everyone else.
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Ending definately hints at Momo: her Shikai fires techniques like that. (having played the DS games)
Meanwhile…I'm happy we finally get an in-manga death via Suzumebachi...I sort of wish Soifon used her Bankai but I guess she's saving it for Barragan if he finally enters the battle now.
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Now I truly regret speaking ill of Soi Fon. This is utter win.
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Filler chapter. About 3/4's of it was Soi Fon talking to Omeda and the fraccion about how she's only fooling around. Then she gets a quick kill when she's finally done talking.
