Very happy with everything. Great chapter. Like I said in the spoiler thread, though, I fear that Croc might be used to show off Dofla's strength, and I can't have that. Hopefully they just tangle until they get interrupted by Blackbeard's show or something, or Oda mysteriously separates them as he done with others. Either way, can't wait until next chapter!
Posts made by Steven D. Teach
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RE: Chapter 566 "Fierce Attack" Discussion
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RE: Chapter 565 "Path of Oars" Discussion
@Elektrik:
is there a new chapter this week? where are the spoilers?
There's a chapter, but the "spoilers" floating around are unconfirmed.
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RE: Chapter 565 "Path of Oars" Discussion
I'm not familiar with the ID system used on 2ch for cell phones and whatnot, but from I understand nja is out of town and I haven't seen Apprentice post anything. You figure something's coming.
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RE: Chapter 565 "Path of Oars" Discussion
Yeah that's kind of how I remember it being settled, but wasn't sure if I remembered it correctly.
In any case, interested in seeing what happens with Luffy. I expect the "trump card" or something to interrupt his current situation, but it'd be cool to see him get into some type of fight, since everyone has been moving around so much.
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RE: Chapter 565 "Path of Oars" Discussion
@The:
So Stephen's wrong again?
Who can I trust? Greg.Well, like I said, I haven't seen the actual original text so I don't know what's what, but I remember a couple threads debating the actual line. I'm not flat out calling it a mistake by any means, just that I think people have questioned it before. My first post was a little misleading, I just meant to say that there's been argument about it before, which doesn't really help.
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RE: Chapter 565 "Path of Oars" Discussion
@The:
I wonder why people keep on arguing about who is the strongest admirals. Oda let one of Gorousei say Aokiji is the strongest for nothing?
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I couldn't tell you with 100% confidence because I don't have the Japanese script to look at and confirm/deny, but pretty sure that's been brought up as a translation mistake before.
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RE: Chapter 0 "Strong World" Discussion
He's a twisted guy but even his VA said he has a dream so I guess we'll see.
His VA is baller, for the record.
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RE: Post Your Pics, part deux
I guess it's about time I wandered into here. Never shown my face in these parts so here's a few random ones of me I grabbed from facebook:
In Japan with my girlfriend and a buddy. I'm the way drunker than he looks redhead in the middle.
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My truly frightening, but sexy Halloween costume.
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Explaining to my teacher that coloring pictures > learning.
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RE: Chapter 0 "Strong World" Discussion
@The:
Quick question.. what's it supposed to say in panel 3 here?:
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In looking at the raw, there was a narrator comment next to blank panel, so they just translated the narrator comment there and shifted the dialogue "Fleet Admiral Kong" or whatever to the below panel.
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RE: Chapter 0 "Strong World" Discussion
@'[[\0_0/:
/]_Spider;1373104']if this chap is not included in the movie i hope they make a OVA on it
It'll be animated.
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RE: Chapter 0 "Strong World" Discussion
I for one know that Croc will continue to be my favorite One Piece character. I find him awesome because of his personality and his actions not because of his gender.
Same for me as well. Although I feel very conflicted–if he ends up being a woman, it legitimizes my sexual desire for him.
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RE: Chapter 0 "Strong World" Discussion
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/530/05/
Just for anyone who forgot/skimmed past when Shiki was mentioned. I'm not using it as an argument for anything in the tired canon debate, just figured there would be a few people who needed a reminder, although it's common knowledge at this point.
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RE: Chapter 0 "Strong World" Discussion
Calling him Leo reminds me of the old HK fansubs.
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RE: Chapter 0 "Strong World" Discussion
No, not yet.
However they are printing 1.5 million copies of the issue, so I don't think there's gonna be any shortage of it going around.
There should be significantly less movie goers than people who purchase the manga volumes.Sounds good. I don't get to see it until the 18th…so I'm not counting on it, but it'd be nice.
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RE: Chapter 0 "Strong World" Discussion
If the events in the movie have no effect in the future manga storyline, it doesn't MATTER if it's canon or not.
So if it never gets mentioned in the manga again, there's really no problem.Right! If what happens in the movie doesn't alter anything and is supposedly canon, well, awesome, nothing changed. And if it's not canon to begin with, well, nothing to worry about to begin with. I just think it gets needlessly complicated when trying to cross-reference everything.
Not so subtle attempt at derailing a topic as exciting as the scheduling/calendar of One Piece chapter releases: is volume 0 thingydoo going to be available via retail in Japan at all? Probably answered a thousand times already, but might as well ask while I'm here.
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RE: Chapter 0 "Strong World" Discussion
If, for a moment I can be permitted to supersede all established logic and the fruits of manga fan debate, I'll say this: I think it's kinda silly to take a retroactive chapter that Oda writes, which uses characters and events that has influence on the current story, but also sets up a movie, and try to arrange some sort of canon hierarchy among them. I'm sure there's a way to explain that, but who cares, it's probably been discussed to death in as many threads as drinks that I've had tonight. Probably better use of time to talk about how packed with awesome stuff this chapter is.
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RE: Chapter 0 "Strong World" Discussion
I thought that the movie story was an arc that Oda wanted to put in the manga but never got around to, this means the movie is non-canon (never occurred in the manga) and Shiki will probably never be mentionned in the manga. I'm not sure if this is just a rumor though..
Although he was.
I think what most people are debating is whether he will or won't be reintroduced in the manga, and if so how. I think it's something that, whatever you regard as canon, can't be fully discussed without seeing what happens in the movie.
I just wish I was arriving back in Japan before the 18th. I want that volume 0. :sad:
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RE: Chapter 0 "Strong World" Discussion
But someone still thinks the movie isn't canon after this…
It would be strange with this MANGA chapter having Shiki being hyped in that way to make the movie non canon and never ever bring him in the manga again.
If it is not canon than he should appear in the manga which I doubt
Perhaps. He was clearly mentioned during the Impel Down arc, and if you accept chapter zero as canon, where Shiki essentially sets up the plan that he unleashes in the movie, then there's an obvious link to the movie. Maybe to a lot of people it depends on what happens in the movie and there's the problem of where to fit it into the main storyline, etc. I just sort of look at it all as One Piece being awesome.
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RE: Chapter 0 "Strong World" Discussion
The big difference is, Sengoku and Garp won the fight.
Clearly because of Sengoku's afro, especially when you consider what afros do, according to Ussopp.
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RE: Chapter 0 "Strong World" Discussion
I think what's interested me most about Shiki is that he's of the same old-fashioned pirate mindset as WB, but he has that twisted spunk to him…I'm not sure how to describe it, but it reminds me a lot of the parallel between Luffy and BB--as in he's very much the same as WB/Roger in personality and to some extent ideologically, but he has an attitude that shifts him to do things differently. Since his big "plan" supposedly takes twenty years, as him and Dr. Indigo say, you figure he had ample time to get used to having epic swords for legs. =P
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RE: Chapter 0 "Strong World" Discussion
@They:
Aohige_AP those three pirates in Shiki's alliance who get their own panels devoted to them they are not implied to be the three current top tier pirates held in Impel Down level 6 are they? Catarina Devon, Basco Shot, San Juan Wolf, obviously the gender pairing fits, and the background collusion between the Impel Down and current Marineford arc along with this Chapter 0 has certainly filled quite a few of the voids.
That'd be cool, but if you're asking if that's written anywhere in the text, then no. I assume they're just pretty strong cronies.
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RE: Chapter 0 "Strong World" Discussion
After rereading the chapter a couple times and rewatching the trailer, I'm very interested in Shiki. I can't wait to see what he's all about in a couple of weeks.
Still thrilled at how much was packed into this chapter, I clearly had my expectations set a bit low.
Would have appreciated a Croc frontal shot though. =P
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RE: Chapter 0 "Strong World" Discussion
Why is Nami not on the color spread? Can Oda not imagine her in Men's clothing or clothing for that matter. Can't remember the last spread with her modestly clothed.
If you've seen the trailer, it's shown that she gets snatched away by Shiki in the movie, so at the very least a large portion of it involves the crew being separated from her.
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RE: Chapter 0 "Strong World" Discussion
I don't get it. There is a possibility that Lola's mom was shown and nobody isn't hyped about it. But, when Lola's mom was first mentioned in the manga, everyone was going nuts, predicting that she could possibly be the last "Yonkou" and what not. Now it's as nobody cares, Captain Brooke is confused!:sad:
Didn't an ugly ass NW pirate show up in the war that people suggested was Lola's mom?
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RE: Chapter 0 "Strong World" Discussion
I just can't get over this chapter, can't stop going through it. I really wasn't expecting something like this.
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RE: Chapter 0 "Strong World" Discussion
This is…sooooo awesome.
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RE: Chapter 564: "The Man Who Shakes the World"
Next week should be baller.
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RE: Chapter 563 "One Man, One Heart" Discussion
As I suggested in the spoiler thread, it's cool to see Croc react like that–the reaction Jinbei/Iva/Mr. 1 gave suggests that it's a little more than "you beat me, this pussy beat you, that sucks" sort of thing, and that maybe Croc has some shred of a sentiment of honor/respect for WB, and maybe only WB--and yeah, he's a merciless asshole, not some evil villain gone soft--but I thought it was very interesting. It'd be nice to get a flashback, even a tiny one, since we've assumed so much.
But Oda is masterful at this stuff. Ten, twenty chapters ago I wanted nothing more than BB to show up and stomp WB's face into ten million pieces. Now, I think I'll be sincerely saddened when WB kicks the bucket. Great time to take a break.
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RE: Chapter 563 "One Man, One Heart" Discussion
Aohige's translation of a script provided is as follows (Don't use it for scanslation as he hasn't said to, and I guess there's always a chance of a new bubble or two popping up).
Ace: Pops!!!
Buggy: Whitebeard!! Whitebeard's been stabbed!!!
Luffy: old man
Marco: Squaaaaaaadddd!!!!Marco slams Squad's head into the ground
Marco: Why did you do this!!
Squad: Shut up!! You guys are the one that made me do this!!
Stop this nonsense, Whitebeard!! You already made a deal with the marines right!?
The lives of you Whitebeard pirates and Ace will be spared, right!?Whitebeard pirate: What are you talking about!?
Squad: We've been trapped!! I didn't know… that Ace was the son of Gold Roger!!
When you took me in, I was all alone... you know why right!?
Because all my men were wiped out at the hands of Roger!!
You know how much I hate Roger!!Squad: You just had to tell me... that Ace is Roger's son, and you intend to make him the next pirate king!!
I was already betrayed at that point... I even became friends with Ace... what a mockery!!
And then Ace, who is so precious to you was captured...!!
You bought back his life in exchange for us, the 43 captains' heads!!Captains: !?
Squad: The Whitebeard pirates and Ace will survive... He's already made deal with Sengoku!!
Isn't that right!? And look at us, unaware of it...!!
We come all the way down here to give our lives for Whitebeard, and look what happened!!
The marines are only targeting US!! The iced wave blocks our way, and we can't even escape!!
The Pacifistas don't attack the Whitebeard pirates, just the allied captains and their crew.
Captain: Pops... is this true!?Whitebeard: ......
Squad: It was a miracle that I even got a single hit on you.... I'm ready for it, kill me!!
Flashback
Squad: You expect me to believe your nonsense?
Akainu: You'll soon change your mind. If you think you're lying, watch closely.
The focused attack that's starting now... only you pirates allied with Whitebeard will be attacked!!
We won't lay a hand on the Whitebeard pirates!!
Squad's men: Whoa!! You're lying, there's no way...!! Look, they're only targeting us!!Squad: I didn't want to believe it... I couldn't believe my eyes...!!
Marco: You fool!!! You've been tricked Squad!! Why don't you believe pops!!
???: It's true that Ace is Roger's son... And they picked the person most disturbed by this fact.... their scheme went above our anticipation.Sengoku: Aokiji!!!
Aokiji freezes Buggy and his men
Marine: Activate the Enclosing walls!
Marine: Yes sir!!Crocodile: Damn bastard... how disgraceful!! Whitebeard!!
I didn't lose to a weakling like this!!
Ivancov: Crocboy...!!
Jinbei: CrocodileMarco: (....yeah, he should have been able to dodge it... if it was the same pops we always knew...!!
No matter how unexpected, even attacks by his trusted comrades, he wasn't the type to easily get hit...!! That's the problem...!! His health is getting worse)Flashback
Whitebeard was sickened, and is seen taking off medical devices off himself
Whitebeard: What, you expect the enemies to pity me seeing me in these devices!? Take all of them off!!!
Marco: Pops!!Whitebeard: Squad... how dare you stab your own parent.... son, you're a fool!!
Squad: Uwaaa!!!Whitebeard: But I still love you, foolish son.
Whitebeard embraces Squad, instead of killing himSquad: Ugh...!! Don't play with me!!! You sold us out...!!
Whitebeard: Even your loyal and honest heart was pulled into the darkness... Who did this to you?
Squad: .... a traitor among the marines... he told me if I slay you, my men will be spared!!Flashback
Akainu: I'm against this mission. The one that needs to be slain is Whitebeard!!
To let him go is out of question. If you work with me, I'll save your men.Whitebeard: Is that what Akainu said...
I know how much you hate Roger... I know it painfully well...
But Squad, blaiming the sins of a parent on the child is foolish... what did Ace ever do to you?
Get along with him... Ace isn't any more special than the rest... you are all my family!!
Whitebeard: You haven't changed a bit Sengoku... you really screwed with us.Pirate: Pops!! Please tell me he's lying!!
Damn it, we've been sold out!!Whitebeard: Are you saying I sold off the heads of my sons...!?
Whitebeard creates a quake, and destroys the iced walls
Sengoku: He opened a retreat path for the pirates... He's one crafty man.
Whitebeard: If you call yourself a pirate!! You decide yourself what to believe in!!!Squad's men: The iced walls are no more...!! We can take over this ship!! We can get out of here at any time now!!
Captain: Pops....!!
I knew it, it was a lie!! It's all the marines' plan!!Whitebeard: "A wealking" huh...? Say whatever you want, but give me a break croc brat...!
I'm still just a man... with one heart.
They may call me a demon and a monster, but I can't stay the most powerful man forever!!
If I save the future of one young life, I should be allowed to retire from this, no?
Ace: Pops.....Whitebeard: Anyone coming with me... throw your life down with me, and follow me!!
Everyone: Uooooo!!!!!!!! Let's go!!!
Whitebeard comes down from the ship, and heads to the enemies.Sengoku: Get ready men!!! The world's strongest man... is about to rampage!!!!!
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RE: Chapter 562 "Pirate Maelstrom Spider Squad" Discussion
Yeah, you probably don't want to post that.
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RE: Chapter 562 "Pirate Maelstrom Spider Squad" Discussion
well, i guess you have to log in for those (already deleted) and since i'll never join them…
You don't have to (as I just checked) but from what I saw they were just translations (poor ones) of some of the faker looking ones on 2ch.
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RE: Chapter 562 "Pirate Maelstrom Spider Squad" Discussion
2ch. But it's a world of idiocy over there sometimes. I.E. right now.
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RE: Chapter 562 "Pirate Maelstrom Spider Squad" Discussion
@Fire Fist:
Ace: Yes, it's my pride and joy…
"Whitebeard" is the greatest pirate I've ever known.
I want to make him the pirate king... not you, Luffy...!!The way Ace says that makes me think he did, at one time, want Luffy to become Pirate King.
I'd love to hear where you see that implied in the passage you provided. :wassat:
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RE: Chapter 562 "Pirate Maelstrom Spider Squad" Discussion
Overall, I do like the Squardo development. It's something new enough to keep us on our toes during the war, and I just feel like anything that has to do with the New World is good.
Interesting spoiler talk on 2ch, but it seems kinda early for it. Oh well, I guess I'll wait until morning to find out.
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RE: Chapter 562 "Pirate Maelstrom Spider Squad" Discussion
It's not a new idea or anything like that, but I haven't seen it brought up in a while: I think Squardo's (or however we're supposed to romanize his name) comments were made with some sense of sarcasm/disgruntlement. I think the spy idea is plausible to some degree, but don't think Doflamingo has anything to do with it. I got the vibe that he either acted out of his own free will as some sort of indication that New World pirates/silver medalists sense the end of the old era and want to push the envelop by getting WB out of the picture, or even that BB had some influence over it. At this point I'm really not sure (knowing Oda I'm probably way off), but that was what initially struck me. Can't wait to see how it actually unfolds.
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RE: Chapter 561 "Luffy vs Hawkeye" Discussion
@Thousand:
Sigh, I can't believe anyone can be so retarded. It's sad:(
It's pretty funny how a chapter (or perhaps even an arc) can beat you over the head with the thematic point it's trying to drive, and someone just totally doesn't pick up on it.
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RE: Chapter 561 "Luffy vs Hawkeye" Discussion
You have to be kidding me. In front of Kuma,Smoker, and Mihawk luffy isn't dangerous at all. His friends triple teaming them might be dangerous tho.
…that's what he's saying.
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RE: Chapter 561 "Luffy vs Hawkeye" Discussion
The Croc fanboy in me is worried, since we don't really see where Dofla/Jozu go. Stay safe, Crocoboy!
Awesome chapter, though, definitely worth the wait.
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RE: General Blackbeard Thread
Honestly, I wouldn't put it past Teach to have used a fork on Shanks.
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RE: Chapter 560 "The Prisoners of Impel Down" Discussion
Too bad I get back to Japan right after the movie comes out. Phooie. Or is it Phewie?
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RE: Chapter 560 "The Prisoners of Impel Down" Discussion
Regarding point 4–the next page shows Croc in half-sand form, which suggests to me (and I know it can't be proven) that he may have been preparing an attack. It's a moot point anyway, since Dofla stepped in.
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RE: Chapter 560 "The Prisoners of Impel Down" Discussion
What do you think Haki is? He cuts what he wants to cut. Haki not a magical power its their very determination.
I repeat Croc was getting smashed by Luffy all of round 2. Minor, single attacks. I'm not speaking about the Storm. Those attacks are comparable to Jozu's attacks? His angry bullet he didn't bother to call out is comparable to a punch from Joz?
As for that punch not being stronger than Luffy's full offensive. So you'd expect Blueno&Hannybal to be about as injured from one of Joz punches as they were after taking their beatings from Gear 2 Luffy. Or was the beating Croc took round 2&3(minus storm) even more severe from those examples?
I'm feel like I'm discussing Bleach where a million excuses are given for Ichigo's bullshit power-ups. Who just a few weeks ago thought Luffy's base physical strength was on Jinbei and thus very likely Joz level? Who here thought Croc wouldn't be done in by a jet pistol when even base Lucci was knocked on his ass by one? Now post-taking a hit people are changing their tune.
The bolded part is what I think a lot of people are trying to convince you of–that those attacks you describe as minor are actually pretty strong. Luffy's Gear attacks are sensationalized and obviously represented as a powerup, so they overshadow his "regular" attacks, but I think to focus completely on that ignores the fact that his base strength is actually supposed to be pretty incredible.
And actually, no, I wouldn't ever think one jet pistol would defeat Croc, just because Lucci got knocked on his ass by one. Either Croc is tougher than you're assuming he is, or Jozu's punch, diamond or not, is really powerful, but not earth-shattering.
Btw, I absolutely hate discussing things in the mold of "power levels" and who could take who, so I'm not trying to get into a debate about that. Just letting you know how I see things.
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RE: Chapter 560 "The Prisoners of Impel Down" Discussion
I don't know what Oda has planned for Croc, but I can't see Doflamingo losing or getting taken out this early on without a really good explanation, which makes me think that his little tag-team with Croc will find a way to handle Jozu. Right now, I'm getting the vibe that a lot of these skirmishes will go unfinished (as they sort of have), with either BB or Sengoku's plan shocking a bunch of people mid-battle.
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RE: Chapter 560 "The Prisoners of Impel Down" Discussion
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/544/08/
I don't know if he knew it was BB, though.
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RE: Chapter 560 "The Prisoners of Impel Down" Discussion
@Usopp:
hello family member
f-father? Is that you?
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RE: Chapter 560 "The Prisoners of Impel Down" Discussion
I don't think we necessarily have to regard it as a total power increase for Croc–sure, we only ever really saw his tornadoes toss around fodder before, but maybe they could always reach that level. I'm not going to speculate on why he can take a Jozu punch, since just about every possibility has been discussed. I don't regard him as the toughest guy on the field, but maybe the simplest explanation will suffice--Jozu's punch just isn't more than Croc can handle.
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RE: Chapter 560 "The Prisoners of Impel Down" Discussion
"Alligator man". Way to go, Franky House.
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RE: Chapter 560 "The Prisoners of Impel Down" Discussion
"Jozu: How was the temperature in that pool of blood?"
Wonder if he means Impel Down or if it has to do with Croc's past.
EDIT: Nevermind, Dofla says it.
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RE: Rio de Janeiro wins 2016 Olympics Bid
I dunno about Madrid but I'm glad Tokyo didn't win. Not when they say stupid shit like this is an effort to appeal to the committee:
http://www.reuters.com/article/olympicsNews/idUSLU38985020090930Fun-Fact, this wonderful country also had the most people opposed to holding the Olympics than the other three. Oh Japan.
Hahaha, Ishihara never fails to disappoint with his classic racism and gaffes, that quote doesn't surprise me so much. Happy about Rio, though.
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RE: Chapter 559 "A Mandate from Heaven" Discussion
Croc better show up next chapter, even if he gets punched in the face, he needs to do something.