Purple haired shouju tomboy straight out of a miyazaki movie and various folktales aspiring to be a pirate kunoichi who can control beasts!
I just had to.
Tama > Carrot
Tama for Cabin Girl would be more interesting.
You´re going into directions of role, personality and goals.
Which wouldve been more relevant if Carrot was a three-eyes, a ninja or a CD.
but not, she had to be a transforming humanoid animal, and you want to act as if this wasn't in the crew already. that's really really really faith that you got there.
I see the animal theme similarity it's not enough to dismiss the possibility Carrot could be made a member, it also doesn't prove she won't be.
It's a pointless argument and opinion that you think solid ground of her not getting in is having two furry characters.
Your Transforming opinion is pretty thoughtless too. Luffy has all these gear transformations, Sanji transforms into a germa suit, Zoro transforms into Asura, Franky is a literal transformer. I think this opinion is starting to make Carrot fit in with her Sulong transform now lmao. Could it be you actually want furries uwuuu stop trying to justify her getting into the crew dudeee
blue animal person
this hurt me to do
You're whole reply is mistaken, I'm not talking about designs. but about concept.
Samurais, other fishmen, cooks, musicians, robots, furries. all covered.
Implying Chopper's and Carrot's only concept is being a furry. Must be the most interesting thing to you about them, what Beastar's character do you have on your Dakimakura?
I've been around this block. Carrot "has had one line of dialogue in the last year" ain't joining.
I hope you're correct, I'd rather see her as a relegated character. I just find this super suspect that she was introduced so forcibly and has no presence on Wano yet… Could be a mismanaged character but arcs not over yet, just like how popular opinion swayed from Paulie to Franky due to arc progression.
Also I think I remember you used to have a crazy husky avatar, what happened to that?
I'll by that thing that Carrot is the ace under Oda's sleeve after we see the minks and she's not with them. By now, we can say she's just like Cockycent says Paulie was, a character who is there just to be the voice of their group.
I'm interested to see how her absence is dealt with, hope its intentional.
I definitely agree with you and Cockycent about the Paulie similarity.
It feels similar in that a lot of the audience is led to believe Carrot fits as a potential crewmember since her stowaway from Zou. Especially with how during Water 7 we were explicitly looking for a Shipwright so the intro and fleshing of Paulie was meant to make the audience think he was fitting but was a red herring to distract from Franky.
Also the Carrot = Pirate Disciple sounds a lot like a Cabin girl
As long as Carrot is a humanoid furry that transforms.. and as long as that's already covered within the crew, she and every other Mink are out the question.
Doesn't matter what animal she's based of, her concept its already in.
Sorry this is not solid ground evidence at all.
Just your subjective opinion on the character designs being similar which I subjectively disagree with.
Not even one of Chopper's forms is similar to Carrot. I would love to rule out Carrot visually but it just isn't happening. The only similarity you reach for is fur and animal inspired.
I don't think that's enough to stop her from being included. Sulong = Werewolf, its quite different from the Human Zoan awakened drug induced transformations Chopper does.
The character designs are very different in race, size, shape, gender, role, silhouette, height etc. They both also assist each other as characters with the Bropper dynamic as seen from their interactions. My job is character/concept design so It's just my opinion but it is also informed from experience. I don't think Carrot and Chopper's designs cancel each other out otherwise she wouldn't have even left Zou. If anything Minks seem to be quite important and there is no mink in the crew.
Trust me I don't want another furry character on the crew, but I still don't agree with your point at all even though I want to dismiss Carrot as a member.
Shachi and Penguin are almost carbon copies, that doesn't stop them from being central characters on a crew too. Too big of a stretch for me.
Also as all the other people in the forum posted it's obvious you are just hating the furry meme. I understand disliking it but it's clouding any logic you have for reasons she might actually be in.
Except there is, its called Chopper.
Oh yes I forgot Chopper the sulong using, female, minkman, electro user, bunny inspired, non devil fruit user. They are practically the same character…
Seriously though do explain further, I'm interested in your logic.
Not being important since they entered Wano is a solid ground to say she's not joining.
This is very suspect, Her disappearance is a red flag for sure. It feels intentional, but if it's not that's some real character mishandling.
It feels too early still to judge this, it's like being upset like the villagers that Oden started dancing like a fool when there is obviously context that's been omitted.
Thing is, according to 20 years of serliaziation. Things are already planned.
There's no most popular or most logical ground here, if she's not intended to join, she will not. Doesn't really matter if you want to stay in the 'But why would Oda bubble'.
We've seen it with Perona, Shirahoshi, Hancock, Rebecca. People got overly obsessed with whatever their participation in their arcs was and stretch it into 'Strawhat material' with no solid ground for any of them, and as of now, there's no solid ground for Carrot either.
Regardless of if she joins or not, I don't really care.
Just as of right now it seems that the story is pushing her as a Strawhat member or an honorary one like Vivi by including her for so long. That is the logic for me. It could easily be subverted of course.
There's no solid ground for Carrot joining, but there is no solid ground for her not joining. I just see lots more flags leading to her being more than a relegated side character than not. Especially how well she fits visually into the diversity of the Strawhats lineup.
Also about the 20 years of serialization, of course there are many plot points set in stone to make the long term storytelling hit harder and smarter. We must be reading different stories though if you haven't recognized how much unplanned improvisation goes into it as well to reach those plot points.
Examples like stating the One Piece and ending will be changed if it's guessed too early and Zoro originally going to be in Buggy's crew.
Either way I don't like Carrot, but being unbiased I still feel that she adds more to the Strawhats than she detracts and if it's in the cards for her to be a member it will probably work well.
If she's not, I'd rather that as I would rather see other Strawhats get more spotlight and fleshing out, but so far she feels more integrated than the princess side characters who have too much responsibility to join the crew.
Also lol at Perona as Strawhat. Waifu warriors do like to reach.
Gonna preface by saying I don't like Carrot at all. Feels too forced, however…
Carrot is by far the most logical choice right now. Subverting and red herring her like Paulie, or being a temporary member like Vivi would just feel lazy and repeated.
Anyone extremely against it is really grasping at straws and having to ignore a lot of her spotlight time probably from bias of disliking her.
Lots of people say she has to fill a role.
She doesn't need a specific role as an inexperienced Cabin boy(girl) was always a role I felt the crew would eventually have.
Chopper doesn't exactly fill this slot as he is Doctor, Older (17) and somewhat experienced now.
Carrot so far has the highest probability aside from Jinbei, but there's room for both. The story can always go in any direction of course that's the fun.
Not gonna list obvious examples as I'm sure this dead horse has been beaten. (Pedro relationship, Sulong intro,
Rather list my main points against her. 1.) No proper fleshed backstory, 2.) no main dream or goal, 3.) lack of use in Wano currently
All 3 don't feel like enough to deter her chances so far.
Backstory flashback can happen at any pivotal moment for her (Senor Pink), Main dream or goal was Pedro telling her Straw hats would bring Dawn of the World(seems quite important to her and pedro), The less she is used in Wano the more suspicious I am of her.
I don't really care either way if she's a Straw hat or not. I just want to enjoy the ride. Hope something interesting develops with her.
So Pedro mirrors Sanji quite a bit on that cover spread and also was saying he's a good guy without much interaction. Visually he has been given too much attention, I think Carrot is also somehow related since they all have blonde hair. I also think the full moon makes people who stay on Zou long enough become "Were-men" whereas people born on the island are "Mink-men" also a nice origin spot for Zoan devil fruits to be reverse engineered. Whatever just throwing out ideas, don't attack me…
That dude is so mad lol, somebody needs a hobby besides his escape into fantasy hero's journeys… Your standards are too high to ever please yourself if you keep up as the master critic and don't enjoy the ride. Those Chinese and Korean sequential artist probably derive some inspiration from Oda if they started after him. Get over yourself audience member #2365476
I want Doflamingo and Luffy to have a super close match almost tie and then both get grabbed by Kaidou. It would make for an arc involving co-operation of the Straw-hats and Doflamingo pirates. Would be golden. Oh wait things that I would like to see happen is a different thread. Oh wait thats pretty much the same stuff here.
Doflamingo's crew has some parallels to Luffy in the sense that its a smaller crew with great personality. The only thing missing is fodder to show how strong they truly can be as a team…
The irrelevent strawhat nakama colosseum fighters already got their screen time, Time for us to actually care about them as they lose to our villains of the arc.
Unless Oda planned the collosseum fighters to defeat the Doflamingo crew therefore making the idea of the donquixote family being a threat a joke and wasting our time with this arc.
You mean Cavendish, Chinjao, Ideo, Sai, Boo, Elizabello, Sulieman cannot handle Baby5, Vise, Gladius, Lao G, Dellinger etc? I wonder who is delusional here.
Chinjao and Cavendish are the only ones I see putting up any sort of resistance and I also see both of them going directly for Doflamingo. Cavendish cause he got the cover page with Luffy and Chinjao cause he gets pissed easy and would probably direct it towards Dofla since they were affiliated to begin with. It would just be bad storytelling to have the meaningless fighters who already got their quick time to shine this arc do anything cool. I mean were not even that threatened by the Doflamingo pirates yet because we don't know what they can all do.
Anybody who believes the collosseum fighters who've already shown their stuff will take down Dofla's family is delusional. I place all my bets on Dolfa family winning and showing off their stuff. There is still Buffalo and Jola that can come to assist them or could be out of frame. Were gonna need the Strawhats who are fighting Big Mom I think.
Hmmm… Fighters vs Donquixote Family. I think the family will get a chance to show off powers and defeat the already seen collosseum fighters.
Ideo, King Punch, Daguma, Chinjao, Boo, Sai, Orlumbus, Bluegilly, Cavendish V.S. Gladius, Lao G, Dellinger, Baby 5, Machvise
Cavendish and Chinjao will storm ahead towards Doflamingo.
Donquixote family will probably have some good team combos to rock the fighters with.
I changed channels the second the 4kids crappy rap opening came on. However one time I switched channels to see Captain Kuro and Luffy's fight with him running along Luffy's elongated arm. Judging the ability to stretch from Reed from the fantastic four made me think it was lame and limited. However I then was already a frequent Naruto and Bleach reader and decided to give One Piece a try. I got to Arlong Park's end in a night and was hooked. I am a different and better person from it. I caught up to the manga at the beginning of Thriller Bark. Took me a while to make this account, but I always lurked.
I now aspire to be a sequential artist.
Zephos will be asked to join the Tenryuubito since he fills out the personality requirements
Usopp merely swallowed something spicy and has been beaten to a pulp off-screen. There's way more chance for redemption remember Enies Lobby after his fight with Jyabura? However as a writer there's many different ways to go about this scene without making a character's development and fanbase cringe
on this page when the family is looking down at the newborn child, are there two violets? who is the third girl if no?
I think it's the queen whom is turned toy, same place as princess dwarf, or dead?
Usopp's dream is to become a brave warrior of the sea. He can't have reached that goal already. What were seeing now is the growing pains.
I like the way you think. I'm not bothered by Usopp's retreat at all. The more you guys hate him for it the bigger his redemption will be within the next few chapters. Furthest I see him going is up a floor to see why Franky was stalling and then feeling like the weakest Strawhat just as Oda has always planned. Maybe by weakest, he meant weakest will.
Look at Kanjuro´s change that Oda´s done on chapter 725 (first picture from WSJ and second from Volume 73).
Oda hasn´t drawn Zoro´s mustache on chapter 729.
That is quite a big change on Kanjuro I must say. Hope he's still similar to the silhouette under the samurai sun hat thing
I have been for Leo joining because of his Devil Fruit potential, dwarf uniqueness for Strawhat crew, and cultivating plant skills. He has yet to have something truly specific to him though which…is not in his favor. He also hasn't met Luffy yet but it could be the end of my thinking he has a chance.
Kyros, Toy Soldier, though seems to be growing in my book. He had a flashback. Lost someone important. Was probably really strong when human. Seems to have some quirks in his toy form...not sure if they will apply when turned back. Unique fighting style...probably a lot deadlier than how Rebecca uses it. Name is short. First letter to first name is unique. Has a sword though...but he may be able to set himself apart. Foreshadowing of Luffy wanting a bronze statue...but will he leave Rebecca to travel with Luffy and crew?
He does fit the crew however I remember when people felt the same about Paulie. A power makes a not a character. I'm on your side though. There is alot of potential with Leo especially since we havn't seen the princess dwarf yet.
Jola's is a weird one for the fetish, innuendo theme. Maybe its meant to be cartoon fetish? If Gladius is pressure pressure no mi, that would be obvious.
Robin and Usopp will be enough to take down Sugar with wits but I think Trebol might beat up at least Usopp. I imagine Sanji coming back with Chopper, Momo, Brooke, Caesar and Nami kidnapped. So we get a Sanji vs Trebol, Zoro vs Pica and Luffy vs Doflamingo.
This would give Big Mom the ability to replicate the Yomi Yomi no Mi, Artificial Dragon Zoan, Hito Hito no Mi and have a direct target on herself for the Strawhats after this arc.
Sugar and Doflamingo really make controlling a country simple.
Don't be a racist.
Don't judge people for simply having been born.
Honestly, One Piece's themes and morals aren't that innovative to me. The way they are presented may sometimes be, but not the themes themselves.
That's because a theme isn't usually supposed to be too much, I find most themes repeat themselves through history anyways. It's always about the way it's presented
Would be cool if Dellinger had an extend extend no mi that's sorta like Goku's staff or the Monkey King's. Could work with his heels and make him the reason bellamy is always looked down on since he beats him up and have similar fruits.
I could see it, I think I dreamt it. His fruit would be kinda similar to Luffy's.
Honestly I think it could be a good movie. I've seen seppuku justified so I'm sure somehow their fight will be. But it's still not an ongoing series since 1997 and flourishing a non-existent world in our minds week by week.
IMO I'm more interested in the studio ghibli plane one. I've become indifferent to live actions often now. The acting has to really sell it.
It might involve some sort of dial, we have yet to see if he can throw an other "sugon elbow" without it.
Wow I love your toy Hakuba signature I can definitely see it now. If they do not get Sugar knocked out quickly I'm thinking Hakuba might attack everything on the ground and I believe Lao G is around?
Well you can't really say that. Because it's who do you think is the STRONGEST character Zoro has ever defeated. Mr 1 would probably be under the toughest fight Zoro has ever had or something like that.
I think if you threw all the characters Zoro has defeated into the Colosseum, Daz Bones would win. I don't think anyone Zoro has defeated has has amazing haki to cut a blade man except for Zoro himself. I could maybe see Kaku pulling some plot gimmick to get a haki cut on him since his character was deep. Just my 2 cents. Wait this isn't the Zoro opponents thread lmao.
I'm just so excited every chapter for this arc and it always delivers. Flap Flap man opens alot of possibilities. That opens a list of devil fruits to change the properties of materials.
I would be less surprised if vagabonds theory was correct than I was at the bars being Seastone on corrida colosseum. 50/50. Could be referring to tekkai, but Sanji fought Jyabura. Moving Tekkai expert. You'd think he'd know it when he sees it.
I just wanna see what the explosion of SAD did to Vergo.
What about those poor random marines sneaking away at Marinford who Akainu turned into ashe?
Relevent characters don't die easily, but I could maybe see more people dying in the harsher new world I guess. Hody is also a villain with little chance of redemption also aka dead