probably because a spoiler pic was just leaked and now everyone is really hyped
! I saw one now, although it looks BS
probably because a spoiler pic was just leaked and now everyone is really hyped
! I saw one now, although it looks BS
Law's fruit denies the properties of matter allowing him to go thru anything no matter how hard it is.
In that panel Law's not cutting, it's a deffense move from Doula's atack.
In fact if Law had stamina to make a Room as huge as the actual size of the BC, he would slice it into little bit pieces.
Then Doflamingo creates birdcages endlessly and Law runs out of stamina and then Doflamingo stomps on his head. The End.
:ninja:
BTW, Found this cool pic a while ago
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These strings aren't all bullshit IMO, they are super sharp and strong as they resisted Laws slashes in his room. They're plot convenience, but I genuinely believe they'll just regenerate. Destroying one small section of the birdcage and it reforming really isn't going to help the situation at all.
I don't think we need to judge who can cut what.
Lol your sig is fine I just wanted to see a female dancing erratically instead ;)
What if I was a female and wanted to see that man dancing erratically instead? :happy:
If I find one with the Zyzz style.. maybe
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It's kind of sad that I noticed the change I guess it's not longer sunny in Dressrosa
Someone finally noticed :ninja:
So what you're saying is it's moving slightly faster than the anime.
More frames than the Anime ? :ninja:
Just look at it closely.
good logic i like it :ninja:
just joking , i just made this assumption based on your avatar and on your last 50 posts lol (again just joking don't take it seriously )
You don't get my avatar. Keep an eye on it.
That signature sucks, sorry DHL. Put boobs on there and I'd give you a thumbs up.
HAHA I thought it was hilarious.
Believe it or not, but that man inspired millions.
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huge Doffy fanboy spotted , (Luffy was basically chilling in the air after he thought doffy was beaten otherwise he would smashed his head against the rocks behind him , this if this or if that discussion leads nowhere imo :ninja:
and whats wron with the guy in your sig he moves too much :blink:
The fact of the matter is that Luffy didn't. Doflamingo knew Luffy would end up in that state and so did Law.
One Piece fans: If you prove points for a certain character or group you are regarded as a fanboy. If a fanboy all points must be disregarded.
It's Zyzz its cool and funny (to me) at the same time.
There was a panel that might indicate he can turn it off at his own volition. When he uses Leo Bazooka on Dofla, one of the people asks him why he's still bouncing and can't he stop himself, to which Luffy says "Nope.".
I agree it's nothing definitive, but Luffy not being able to deactivate G4 might be one of the answers.
Luffy wanted to use Gear 4 to finish OFF Doflamingo.
Doflamingo mentioned earlier Luffy couldnt stop bouncing. Its another drawback (if exposed). Luffy is basically a ball that kicks itself.
Both filled with air.
I'm aware drag versus momentum plays the biggest role and it's cleverly not as simple as I made it. But that might really be the Oda-physics explanation for it.
Really nice point on both filled with air btw
They should create two new categories in Physics textbooks.
Oda physics.
High school of the dead breast physics.
The difference would be how strong the characters are and there defense .
CC took that attack and was physically weak .
Don has one of the highest physically defense we have seen so far and was blocking with haki .
Well that just shows how insanely powerful gear 4s hits are doesn't it?
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Also, CC is made of gas. Naturally he'd float farther when knocked away!
For me. It was a lot easier to kick a soccer ball than a balloon for distance.
Yes i mean can't ( damn on screen keyboard lol)
I can't see why not. Really, What would the difference be?
Come on DHL you know you can compare the power of moves by using characters like that.
You mean can't?
I'm confused. What's your point
I definitely hope that Gear 5 is more Luffy-shaped though.
Come on man.
Gear 4 Chapter 783. Gear 2 chapter 387.
Gear 3 chapter 421. The next gear goes from 4 to 1. 4-2-1.
Gear 1 FTW
I don't think the lenght of G4 is that much of a problem, in itself. The fact Luffy can't switch it off and practially knocks himself out after using it is what makes it risky. It's more of a desperation attack than anything else, as it is now.
But it's a given Luffy will learn how to switch it off or keep it shorter to avoid being completely drained. I think he won't be switching it on and off so soon. Maybe he'll develop a middle ground. G4 but a form that doesn't make him as big, so he doesn't use that much Haki.
Hmm maybe. It might be a challenge for Luffy in the new world to master it. I believe he could have just been pushing himself to keep it sactivated. I don't know if Luffy would last well against the beasts if he'd be lying down for that long unguarded.
I can't see why he couldn't deactivate haki now. But you've mentioned a good point.
I think G4 Needs to be massive. It's got defence to blunt blows which doesn't make Luffy get smashed everywhere (see my here here post earlier )
I personally think Luffy has other modes but this was the best for the current situation.
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Not gear 4 modes. But other modes/gears outside this class.
@Fire Fist:
Buggy would easily beat the Bird Cage by just walking right through it.
So this means that Buggy is stronger than Doflamingo, then that means Buggy is legions ahead of Sanji.
Power levels intended
Lol I can't wait to re-read this arc and the fight between Luffy vs Doffy once it's finished :)
Yea, it will be interesting. I personally feel there should have been more. A lot of the time it was. The fight starts now, no now. NOW this is it, NOW THIS IS IT here we go.
Would be funny as hell, though not possible considering Roger died before Luffy was born. Unless Dragon pulled a Portgas pregnancy for years
I wonder how many Dumb predictions in this thread have come true.
It wasn't a feat, it was a foot that stopped a seemingly pissed off Doffy from crushing Law's skull (he even claimed that was his intention right after he was stopped) so there was definitely a lot of force behind that would-be stamp to the face, so stepping in and stopping it so casually requires strength. Yeah the scene was powerful but what if he didn't have the strength to stop that stamp, would it be powerful or a big fail on Luffy's part?
Also I don't think it's easy to tell when Luffy is using G2 anymore, he doesn't exactly say gear second and he seems to switch in and out of it with ease.
Of course Luffy is strong. He has to be. We're talking a 400m bounty powerhouse lol.
Just an e.g. If we are to compare that scene with a previous stomp Doflamingo did on this page , with what Luffy blocked, then Luffy must be super strong to stop that.
But then you have Luffy right after in gear 2 fail to stop Doflamingos kick and was smashed around here. Not to mention in here and also here and this one riiiiiight here .
! Here here here here LMAO
G2 Luffy was landing some hits that made him spurt out blood at some points in the fight, I wouldn't say he was getting toyed with, toyed with is what he did with Law as he helplessly watched Mingo sever his arm. Luffy stopped Doffy's imminent stamp on Law with one foot, he definitely has the strength in his default form.
You mean Luffys normal punches?
I mean at that point did you see where Doflamingo was 20 seconds ago?
Luffy stopping Doflamingos stomp wasn't a feat. It was meant to be a powerful scene of Luffy stepping in.
You're going to have wait until he faces Kaido then, so let's seeβ¦4-5 years time?
Kaido stops Kong Gun with one hand.
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is jet bazooka one of his most powerful g2 moves? literally just a g4 bazooka. Id say he has a real finisher like g4 cannon or storm or something. And the fact that he was surprised by luffy's speed isn't an excuse. He was watching him fly, then watched him disappear and re appear on his face. I just don't see any evidence that mingo is stronger then g4 luffy. He supposedly awakened his fruit against him too and puffy dodged those attacks easy. very one sided fight so far. G2 Luffy was getting toyed with g4 luffy was destroying Mingo
I can let it past and agree that G4 > Dofla, probably not by such an enormous gap if at full strength, but still being on top. But an overall fight against Luffy, Doflamingo would come out on top, simply because Luffy can't keep up gear 4 for that long.
I believe Luffy in future won't be holding g4 like that. I think in this situation Luffy had to go all out so he reached his limit in using it. I see quick switches between, 2/3/4 happening just like he has been with 2 & 3.
What is Luffys most current powerful seen Gear 2 move?
Luffys grizzly magnum sent ceaser halfway across the island.
Gear 4 Kong Gun which is the pistol version of his gear 4 sent Doflamingo flying into the central district. There is a massive difference between g2 and 4.
So look at Kong guns recoil and Grizzly magnums.
Oh okay .
Yeah he just move really fast to get there.
I wonder if that scene hints to Doffy CoO.
On this page Doflamingo is mesmerised by Luffy flying and notices Luffy dissapear, then Luffy has his attacked charged up.
Then on this page Doflamingo has Haki on his face trying to nullify as much damage possible. Not only did he know where the attack was coming from, but where it was going to hit.
im still waiting for Elephant Red Hawk Gatling
or gear 4's Gatling form which would just be like a machine gun duel barrel tank >.>
I wonder if Luffy can even transform to Gear 4 again. I think Luffy is just reaching a state in which he can use Haki. Gear 4 is going all out with Haki, so i really doubt Luffy is back up to full.
What ?
When luffy drop kick him it was called rhino schneider .
Yea I am aware of that, but getting to Doflamingo isn't a Rhino Schneider. It's called moving really fast and then using Rhino Schneider.
Thats true haki does recover but i don't think Luffy was fighting with 100% of his available haki. Thats a mute point though as theres not really any evidence for that, just my opinion. How would mango have come out on top when he couldn't eve see half of Luffy's attacks? His rhino shnider or whatever its called was so fast mango had his head turned the other way. He straight up got bruenoed. While i agree we haven't seen doffy use all his tricks no way was leo bazooka Luffys best move either.
Well in Doflamingos defence he was a bit shocked to see Luffy flying, the dude didn't even know where he was after he flew across the country.
Also the the move wasn't the Rhino Schneider, Luffy just soru'd through the air and then attacked. You mean to say Luffy was fast to get behind Doflamingo?
Leo Bazooka is probably one of his most powerful moves. Elephant gattling is the most powerful destructive move.
(That we've seen)
"It's One Piece!! (LOL)"
Lmao.
Finally I know!
Some girl on my instagram doesn't speak English, but I guess One Piece connects all of us.. (Photo of Sanji, the hunter)
@Purple:
It's already pretty scummy to do it on the internet. Now to do it face to face for general services rendered that shouldn't otherwise be limiting to a certain group? I mean it's not like they're denying gay people because they asked for a gluten free cake rofl
I think that it's really scummy and wrong to not allow someone a cake based on who they are.
People might boykot the place and speak bad about them and whatnot. But I've never heard of anyone have charges against them in a similar situation.
ok well why do you think that? Bc Luffy ran out of haki and exhausted himself? Bc in a true 1v1 Luffy never would've fought Don or the toy solders or all those other guys and would've had much more haki to use and maintain g4 for longer. Mingo couldn't do anything to Luffy in that form and thats not bc of laws attack.
Laws attack has impaired him in his fight and Luffy himself KNOWS it and was counting on it.
Haki has a regen time remember, he had god knows how much time to regen the absolute minimum amount of Haki he used. Luffy used all of his energy going all out and failed to put him down. That's the facts. Doflamingo is still using Haki because he's not stupid and spamming it.
Doflamingo knew he couldn't afford to take anymore hits and he started fighting from a distance. As I've said, we've only seen very little from Luffy in Gear 4 and is not enough to judge what Doflamingo would be able to do at full strength.
The tide changer of the fight was the Kong Gun Doflamingo stupidly tried to "tank".
Doflamingo could have handled Gear 4 a ton better. Even say Luffy edged flamingo in gear 4 at full strength, Doflamingo would have come out on top anyway.
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seriously? Doffy has 1 foot in the grave and Zoro still hasnt even had a time to shine since the time skip, all his fights have all been just messing around. pretty sure zoro has some pretty monstrous new abilities still unseen.
But he still shits himself and knows he'd be in for a fight of his life once Fujitora trys to take him on.
Someone japanese commented this on my photo on Instagram.
What does it say??
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@uniaka:
This arc is a few chapters away from over, Doflamingo is like 1 chapter away from defeated but we still din't solve this arc's biggest mystery[qimg]https://12dimension.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/one_piece_ch714_p10-panel1.jpg[/qimg]What's in that suitcase???? It's killing me.Coult it be a symbol that Bartolomeo packed his bags to ask Luffy tojoin the Straw hats??
I've never seen that before.. Knowing Oda, its something.
I laughed so hard to this
Glad you liked it
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Excuse me, Sanji wasn't a beast. He was the hunter.
http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/247/7/2/sanji_the_hunter_by_law67-d2xzdo4.png
That hyped me up.
But keep in mind this happened after
We normally get our chapters at around plot thirty, plot devices are everywhere as these plot devices cover up the plot holes as if they never existed.
You think you have an Air Bender in Avatar? We have the ultimate plot bender in One Piece. :ninja:
One Piece is awesome, sexy and amazing all at the same time.. that sums it up.
They are pretty good. I was around during what we now call "The Rise and Fall of the Great Wall of Text, the True Story of Agog." Many lives were changed in that era. I was also involved in the great "War Lord Rebellion" when the only person who challenged Jinbe at the time was Hancock. I've seen some things and some stuff. What were we fighting for?
I think people fight to feel better about something happening in the Manga. It makes the person feel better when other people agree.
Some people make good predictions, some people go way off though. I've seen AGOGs name thrown around before, also saw wiki and is all about Perona LOL
If this is volume 6 of the next crewmate thread, then people should actually read the previous volumes and see how wrong previous theories were.
I might have a go at it for a kick.
People actually underestimate Pica.
Zoro, even though slicing stone is easy for him, to actually defeat him took him a long time. Pica as there to fuck shit up, Zoro had to try stop him.
789: Viola is manhandled by Doffy.
Or maybe Viola womanhandles Doffy.
Viola is done for already, check the bottom of the page and how Rebecca is screaming .
Although, it could be one of those BS screams and Viola actually landed something.
- An editor sometimes sleeps under his deskβ¦
Oda: I don't know if this page is alright, hmm let me pull out my editor
tap tap tap
Oda: Wake up!
@The:
Yes, I did a 4 year degree in Marine Biology, and I've been doing this for 2 years (tomorrow is exactly 2 years from doing my first offshore trip.
We need to change your name to "The Franky Boat" :ninja:
and its true luffy would've died as a kid if shanks wasn't there. Thats how dire that situation was. Do you see what I'm getting at? You can say that for almost any fight in the manga. If so and so wasn't there then so and so would've died.
We know that lol.
But what we've established is, is a 1 on 1. Luffy vs flamingo no distractions with full strength, Doflamingo would win. That's what I sincerely understand.
Tsuru's Fruit, Woshu Woshu No mi as it was written in the one piece wikia "allows her to literally "wash and hang out to dry" people and objects as if they were clothes, turning them into flat and malleable like clothes. This disables the opponents by rendering them unable to move. This can also "clean" a limited amount of evil off the victims, which is considered a dangerous ability against pirates"
So, cleanin the devil off from Doflamingo or any of his crew could be troublesome. I cannot imagine doflamingo as an "Angel of Love" lol
Trying turning diamente in to flat clothing
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@HTC:
For all the power DD and his family had, makes you wonder how strong VA Tsuru is to make even DD want to run away from her:
http://mangafox.me/manga/one_piece/v77/c767/19.html
and
Well it is always classic that the pirates run away from the marines. It was 13 years ago to. Doflamingo was still learning his fruit and powers as well.
Tsuru 13 years younger too :)
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@mario:
[qimg]https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/11350505_10153464773744059_3947310267646563996_n.jpg?oh=6580cf0d8905c40f5c2082f7e1abd338&oe=55F343E2[/qimg] sorry if im ot
Lmao.
Dude probably trains. His kick has good form. Conditioning and power.
Well he had kin and Kanjuro with him but if he leading lol.
Side note was reading back over from when luffy starting fighting back don .
Then i notice all those panels where we see certain thing are to counter act what don was saying about people getting kill with the bird cage .
For eg he said that some won't be fast enough or the old won't make .
Chapter later we get king riku speech and a old women running like crazy .
Vol format just so much better for this arc.
Yea it would
And BTW. Luffy said he wouldn't let a single person die. So Zoro going for Flamingo would cost Luffy his words.
Zoro could have gotten to him on time but people would have start dying.
We also have to factor in Zoro getting lost
Because strings slashing you is different compare to someone holding you and using all there leg strength to cut off you arm .
Luffy was in pain from the haki punch to the face not the strings you can see him holding his forehead .
And don did use stronger strings attack it's call overheat.
It nicked Luffy (overheat).
Luffy got slashed and screamed in pain and got punched after. If it did nothing Luffy would still be battling no problem.
Yea Imentioned overheat as well. What's your point?
I think I need to say that Luffy doesn't care for dancers.
I doubt he wouldn't be attracted to a beauβ¦ohh woops
What about Sanji. He can invite her to the swirlystraw crew.
A lot of stuff is wrong with the last part of the arc. It doesn't make sense that they all are about to die, Sabo, Issho and Zoro remains unhurt and they all wait for Luffy to recover. The arc was clogged with too many character and Oda should have make sure they are hurt too which will make sense for the Luffy wait.
By the time Zoro would have gotten to Luffy the cage would have killed everyone, Zoro was the one that motivated EVERYONE to slow it down. Zoro doesn't even know how weakened Doflamingo is now, and once again, hes far. Hell why wouldn't sabo just pull off a big move in the middle of his fight to finish off DD? Sabo knows his hands are full.
No one else around DD other than Luffy is strong enough to defeat him. Fujitora has his own reasons as well.
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@mario:
yes when luffy wake's up then he will go save violet
Violet got messed up already maybe?
Rebecca was screaming her name as if she got bitch-slashed
Oh man, you'll fit right in with the new users.
Go rant about Birdcage like your life depends on it, that'll win you some more brownie points I'm sure.
His name says it all.
A dog as a sexual predator? Demonic poodle indeed. Not a poodle in pic but damn
i don't understand the string part :ninja: , but doffla still fight like he would be fighting if he was not hit by gamma knife , characters in one piece recover quickly , so no he is not nerfed
Tell that to whitebeard. Shit I'll recover after that magma fist in my abdomen. Not only recover, but uberly fast.
I'm saying, if you study silk and strings you'll understand the limits and strengths.
One simple example is the birdcage stopping communication. There's actually a legitimate post accurately explaining how it works.
As Doflamingo said, simple first aid, then he can get medical attention. People gotta understand Doflamingo is applying first aid on his organs, but what about other parts inside his body after they blew up.
Not everybody is the same or as strong .
Don strings were never gong to cut or hurt certain characters as much .
He hit luffy with them and they hardly did any damage and law block them with haki .Talking about DF i wonder what robin awakening would be like .
One of the most broken DF is OP ( but nerf because of they type of charcter robin is )could get even more broken .
Then why didn't law use Haki to stop Doflamingos fretsaw.
There are stronger strings that Doflamingo has obviously. The attacks don't necessarily need to cut parts off. But at least do a considerable amount of Damage.
Luffy was in a lot of pain after he received one to the back and that was basic. Sure he was feeling better after but they do hurt.
The way you say strings did nothing to Luffy, so that means overheat is the same? Imagine Doflamingo getting a clean shot with that.
Just gave up discussing, since Adam is right in one thing. There is no evidence Dofla was weakened in any way since Oda didn't make it clear enough. It's up to reader's intrerpretation. I can't tell him he's wrong because I can't support it with evidence. Dofla isn't caughing blood or losing step or complaining about pain. Luffy has a slight momentum after Law and Trebol are out of the picture, but it's nothing especially threatening to Dofla. He's still able to avoid and block perfectly. Luffy starts making the difference only when he goes G4 which, arguably, might have happened even if Dofla didn't take GM.
Best to drop it, since it's a dead end discussion. Unless Dofla or Law say Gamma Knife fucked him up in one of following chapters.
EDIT: Also, with the awakening angle, there's no telling what the limits of Dofla's ability are. Maybe he can just regenerate organs with his awakened strings. If he can turn stuff into strings, maybe he can turn strings into stuff. This would be a level above clones, though.
Well I can argue that Doflamingo had never been seen going out at full strength. People gotta understand it's not just his organs. Its everything else that got affected. He probably doesn't have as much power in his attacks and is limiting himself.
One of the main reasons he's using awakening now is because it doesn't require much body movement at all.
Luffy himself said Law had done A LOT for Luffy in order to take him down.
The fact of the matter is, Luffy vs Dofla 1 on 1 all out, no distractions with both at 100%, Dofla would win.
Gear 4 was out of the roof, and yes it was powerful, but all Luffy got in was a hit Doflamingo didn't try to dodge. Confused the living crap out of him and then landed one more hit after.
What about Doflamingos string trap when Luffy charged with a Kong gun? Just an example. Or hell, even a spider web.
The fact is, Doflamingo had already taken well way too much damage and then took on Luffy.
Cause please. Luffy could have gone gear 4 instead of using an elephant gun.
To me regardless, there are going to be split sides on this, and I'm sticking to mine.
I know! I saw those glasses too! I can't believe that they're only making 300 of them! They look enticing though, I must admit.
However in regards to cosplay I've got to tell you my own personal advice. Go home made. I do it every year with my dad; who's actually Akainu in the photo. It was his first time cosplaying, we've gone together every year we've gone, but this was his first time going in costume. (Just to put it into perspective, I'm 17). Me and him make the props and I assist my grandmother (who has lived close by my entire life, and has 14+ years Experiance via having made me and my sister's Halloween costumes throughout our childhood) with the actual costume.
I'm just telling you this because I will firmly attest to the fact that if you're wiling, any homemade cosplay trumps something store bought. Just to show you some examples, all of the following were made from scratch/found and modified.
Anime Boston 2014, with me as "The Medic"
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[/hide]And from Anime Boston 2013, I don't mean to brag. But my Law sword is the best one I've ever seen at a con.
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[/hide]Wow, sorry if I got a bit off track. But any chance I have to help out someone with cons/cosplay I jump at it! If you want more insight/tips just PM me.
Wow. You're really into it. Although I feel I'll never reach the quality of the actual outfit which puts me off. Opinion?