@RobbyBevard:
Like wrestling does?
And here come the claws.
@RobbyBevard:
"Gaydom?" Really?
Really.
@RobbyBevard:
You do realize you're on a site dedicated to a japanese comic book and that every single person here is a geek or nerd to some degree, right?
Of course. We might talk about Buffy, or Naruto, or Bleach or something like that around our water coolers metaphorically speaking but nothing we talk about matters to people who aren't nerds or geeks. I doubt Congress is gearing up for the next chapter of One Piece.
@RobbyBevard:
And that you're sporting an avatar of a nearly naked sweaty man based on your love of a franchise that you clearly think important and want to talk about?
Ouch. This kitten has claws.
@RobbyBevard:
All the time. It was incredibly reflective of the 90's, life in school in general, and influenced the tone of many things that came afterward.
So did Wonder Years.
@RobbyBevard:
Nearly every episode of the first several seasons was a common problem many teens faced, exaggerated into a monster of the day.
What show were you watching?
@RobbyBevard:
And yes, it did touch upon gay and lesbian issues, and presented them in an incredibly positive light with a very likeable character. (Censors wouldn't let Willow and Tara even kiss for nearly a year. While full blown straight sex was just fine.) Added in with the strong female leads and it had a lot of effect on how mainstream entertainment can deal with those sorts of things. Along with Xena and Ellen Degeneres, there was a time not all that long ago where it really WAS impossible to have a lesbian on tv, or a gay man that wasn't an outrageous stereotype.
I take it you've never seen Lifetime.
@RobbyBevard:
It tapped into all of them regularly.
You only see those things in Buffy that you want to see. I mean a thread ago you slammed 90s Spider-Man because it didn't capture the essence of the comics. By the way, it did. And now you're an advocate for Buffy and you're pointing out things you claim it did when, it didn't do any of those things. This is not What's Hot with RobbyBevard. You only see this stuff in Buffy because you actually liked the show. Nevermind the fact that all Buffy did was capitalize on the emo lifestyle of tweens.
@RobbyBevard:
Pop culture and influence, and long term relevence to society as a whole are completely different things. If you're going to be that extreme, nothing on television ever has contributed to anything, aside from Star Trek inspiring a generation to grow up and make cell phones.
That's a lie and you know it. Star Trek are not we would have still had cellphones, smartphones, cool visors, the list goes on. Technology doesn't need television Robby. It grows and evolves on its own.
@RobbyBevard:
Well yeah. The entire medium is only a little older than 50 years. Most entertainment ages badly in the course of a century. I Love Lucy, and the Honeymooners are probably the only things you can point to from 50 years ago that anyone remembers. All in the Family and MASH might have footnotes in the year 2062 as having has a little impact on society of the past, but they're not going to vibe with the times at all by then when they're 80 year old shows.
It's a given they'll be less relevant over-time. But the key here is that they actually had "relevance." You credit Buffy and Ellen and Xena with making lesbians market friendly. B.S. I think Virginia Woolf had a jump on them by a century except most Americans are too retarded to read. Xena didn't start wearing flannel until season 4 and that was only because ratings plummeted and Universal needed to find some way to get their numbers up. SAME with Buffy. These shows didn't advocate same-sex relations because of some equality driven virtue. These cashcows reached a point where they couldn't be milked so their parent companies did what they needed to do. I don't give credit where it's not due. That's not me.
@RobbyBevard:
JFK was shot 50 years ago. And we walked on the moon. But does anyone born in the last 30 years care at all beyond historical significance?
Does anyone care about Buffy or the lifestyle of tortured 90s teens today? Of course not. Sorry to throw this out there but no one cares about teenagers. If Buffy did something to change that then maybe I'd give it some props. If it changed how we all think then mad ups. But to adults living in the real world, teens are just kids with unbalanced hormones who still aren't mature enough to make smart decisions. Know why people still think that? Because that's reality. To most normal people Buffy is just a tv show. How do I know this? Because it hasn't changed anything. If I go on any forum right now, right this moment and ask anyone, "Hey, how has Buffy the Vampire Slayer changed your life?" most people aren't going to know what I'm talking about.