I fully understand about that fight with Ener…..... however, I believe given the circumtances.......... if Zoro could cut down a logia, he wouldn't have needed that seastones or even if he couldn't , he probably would prefer to refuse to use the seastones.....
at least that is what I think....
I predict zoro's will fix his "Yubashiri" or replace it with a blade comprised of "Vapolu Steel"
I don't see why you people think that he would refuse to use a Kairoseki Katana. If it helps him beat logia users, then Zoro wouldn't have a problem. I mean, you all seem to convienently forget he grabbed Wiper's Kairoseki runner in attempt to counter Enel's power.
Be it as it may he wants to rely on his own power, he's not stupid. He knows that he can't cut elements; hell, even Mihawk uses a devil fruit. (Yes, he does. His ship's sail is always rolled up. It's a tiny coffin shaped boat with no steam engine. If you think it's powered by wind, you're nuts).
It will be a legendary katana, either the one the Gorosei has, Tashigi's Autumn Rain, or something even better.
Trust me, relying on your own power is useful… to a fault. But one can't rely on his own strength forever.
Didn't Tashigi recovered a sword from a baroque works agent? It could become the new sword too.
this is unless Zoro doesn't know the katana he got has kairoseki in it…. until he fought a devil fruit and finds out....... by that time, he wouldn't just throw his katana away......... as he would have probably gotten used to it......
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I don't see why you people think that he would refuse to use a Kairoseki Katana. If it helps him beat logia users, then Zoro wouldn't have a problem. I mean, you all seem to convienently forget he grabbed Wiper's Kairoseki runner in attempt to counter Enel's power.
Be it as it may he wants to rely on his own power, he's not stupid. He knows that he can't cut elements; hell, even Mihawk uses a devil fruit. (Yes, he does. His ship's sail is always rolled up. It's a tiny coffin shaped boat with no steam engine. If you think it's powered by wind, you're nuts).
It will be a legendary katana, either the one the Gorosei has, Tashigi's Autumn Rain, or something even better.
Trust me, relying on your own power is useful… to a fault. But one can't rely on his own strength forever.
But zoro relying on anything besides his own power is out of character, I doubt he will get a kairoseki katana.
A kairoseki katana, would cheapen zoro completely, think about it. Anyfight involving a devil fruit user would result in zero curbstoping said user.
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Again, Zoro is not stupid. He knows his limits.
Just like Mihawk has a devil fruit, Zoro will get a kairoseki katana. I'm pretty sure the future depends on it.
It's nice to see my thread resurrected….Anyway.....
I still don't think that Zoro's next sword will be a kairoseki sword, mainly because of the fact that he would be too overpowered when facing DF users. Since he's already a bit overpowered when facing normal people, it would put him at a level that's higher than Luffy. Plus, I think that it would undermine all of his training find the "breath" of objects. It's true that Zoro knows his own limits, but isn't he training to surpass those limits?
Also, Just because Mihawk's ship was moving without wind doesn't mean that he has a DF power. Maybe it's a ship powered by his own sense of self satisfaction.
Hmm Yubashiri doesn't say anything to me, which of the blades got broken? The one he bought in Logue Town?
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Hmm Yubashiri doesn't say anything to me, which of the blades got broken? The one he bought in Logue Town?
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I suggest you go back and read the Loguetown Arc. He didn't "buy" either sword from Loguetown, they were given to him. Kitetsu III and Yubashiri (Snow Chaser) were both from Matsu's shop. The sword that got destroyed was Yubashiri by a marine that used an acid devil fruit. Rather cheap way for it to break, after it had been electrocuted, exposed to excessive amounts of seawater/cloud water/fresh water, used to cut through a Giraffe man using tekkai, used to slice a train car in half, and used to own a freakishly ugly Marine Captain, but Oda has his reason, I suppose…
Maybe his next sword will be a lightsaber. Not an actual Star Wars type of deal, but like the thing that T-Bone used. That would actually be kind of cool...
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
he will get a light saber
jajajajajaja 
….... just joking
@Fire Fist:
Maybe his next sword will be a light saber. Not an actual Star Wars type of deal, but like the thing that T-Bone used. That would actually be kind of cool…
T-Bone had a normal sword…
I don't know but judging for the last chapters I started thinking that Zoro may try to find someone capable to reforge the Yubashiri using the broken one
Making a Yubashiri version 2 better, faster and extremely sharper
Nidai Yubashiri? I think Zoro's going to get Yubashiri remade fairly soon, if not possibly he could get Ichidai/Nidai Kitetsu.
Mihawk having a devil fruit would suck ass, he's an expert swordsman who relies on his own strength just like Zoro. I can't wait for someone to ask Oda what those two Captains' powers were, me thinks it was rust.
Making a Yubashiri version 2 better, faster and extremely sharper
It can be rebuilt; they have the technology. 
Sorry, couldn't help myself.
Personally, I'm hoping he gets a brand new sword. Just like Merry wouldn't have been the same ship if it had been possible to bebuild her from scratch, I also think this would be true of Yubashiri. It might look the same, but it wouldn't feel the same.
I also don't want to see Zoro with any type of novelty sword.
to reforge Yubashiri, Zoro will need to find not only a blacksmith, but a GREAT blacksmith….... or a LEGENDARY blacksmith..... better yet, find the person that forged Yubashiri..... because no normal blacksmith can just reforge a great katana just like that......skillz and experiences are needed for a reforge......
The way i see it Oda had the sword destroy so that one arc will be about Zoro finding some blacksmith that can make him a sword with the same elements of Mihawk legendary sword.
On another note Mihawk will never have a devil fruit because he needs to be that strong and we know that he used to be rival with Shanks who we now know is part of the Emperors.
I have a feeling the next minor arc before another major one is about Zoro coincidently meeting someone that recognizes Wadou, Kitetsu and Yubashiri….and is pissed that Yubashiri is destroyed.... he agrees to reforge Yubashiri on one condition and the story goes from there....
That cursed sword of his will probably lead him to another cursed sword
Zoro meets a wandering blacksmith when Zoro gets lost for some reason. He will exchange stories with that blacksmith. That blacksmith lost his dream to find a true swordsman to weild his greatest creation. (his son died at a young age and ironically looks like zoro). The wandering blacksmith gives zoro a uber cool sword and makes a dramatic exit or leaves it by zoro's side with a note while zoro sleeps. and BOOM! zoro gets a new sword.
He'll get the Shodai, that'll be cool I think.
Zoro meets a wandering blacksmith when Zoro gets lost for some reason. He will exchange stories with that blacksmith. That blacksmith lost his dream to find a true swordsman to weild his greatest creation. (his son died at a young age and ironically looks like zoro). The wandering blacksmith gives zoro a uber cool sword and makes a dramatic exit or leaves it by zoro's side with a note while zoro sleeps. and BOOM! zoro gets a new sword.
yeah thats what i think may happen but i think that the blacksmith would be younger and instead of a son maybe a older brother also he/she would join the crew to fix up Zoro's swords when ever he got a crack or something like that
Zoro says he wants to be able to cut anything carring a seastoned sword would give him a very big advantage one that he wouldn't want to have since he wouldn't be able to increase his own power as much as he can when he's fighting at a disadvantage
I think the destruction of Yubashiri marked the return of Tashigi to the story.
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Ok, so he broke Snow Chaser ans his other sword Kitetsu is cursed. That cursed sword could be the reason, at least a catalyst, for his new stronger powers. What if his new sword is "blessed or a "holy sword". He would then technically be holding powers of Heaven and Hell in both hands. We knoe Zoro is definatly in touch with the supernatural or metaphysical (breath of life in arabasta) He is also somewhat religeously themed as far as his abilities. 36/72/108 Passions is related to Buddhism and Asura (when he defeated Kaku) is a Hindu demon(cursed?). Now, the sword he puts in his mouth, Kunia's blade, the Wado Ichimonji could represent the earth or physical plane. Its name means "The One Road of Harmony" which, I believe, is one of the keys to Zoro's dream. So, to be in harmony with 3 planes of existance, or however you would classify them; Heaven, Earth, and Hell and to tap into each or all at the same time would allow Zoro to wield god like powers.
I think the destruction of Yubashiri marked the return of Tashigi to the story.
I hadn't thought of it that way, but yes, I think you're right. He did ask her to choose a second sword for him before Matsu gave him Yubashiri, so it would be symbolic for her to show up now when there's that same "vacancy" in his sword collection.
What do you think he will do with Yubashiri though? He can't seem to let go of it, and yet he'll have to if he gets another sword. Hmmm…
i have been thinking
if that rust captain face mihawk, would he be able to destroy mihawk's sword too ?
Probably not.
What it looked like to me was that Mihawk's sword is made of Onyx. That would explain the color and the name. Being a mineral, Onyx doesn't rust like processed iron (aka steel) does. Damascus steel (Or Wootz) is the hardest steel in the world, but it's still limited by the built in limitations of processed metal. Quartz is a step up from metal in terms of hardness.
then i guess zoro can get that kind of sword instead of a seastone sword
at least it provides some protection against rust kind of attack
i just found it kinda lame for top swords get broken easily by a rust captain =/
I Think Usopp will make him a Dial Sword, because he has offer it him on Sky Piea, und he has offer Nami to complete her clima tact, what he has do, and with Dials he maked his balls stronger, see Kabuto. When Usopp make him a Dial Sword he think he is very important for the gang, too, that's a reason to come in the gang back, then Franky must come in the gang and all of the mugiwaras are happy and lucky
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and with Dials he maked his balls stronger
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Zoro won't use a dial sword because he'll want to use his own skill to win a fight. I like the theory of him getting a heavenly sword and that would mean he has a good, evil and earthly sword. Maybe having 3 swords together like would upset some sort of balance between the three that would enable some sort of secret technique that can be used only by someone who has the skill to weild 3 swords like that.
Zoro won't use a dial sword because he'll want to use his own skill to win a fight. I like the theory of him getting a heavenly sword and that would mean he has a good, evil and earthly sword. Maybe having 3 swords together like would upset some sort of balance between the three that would enable some sort of secret technique that can be used only by someone who has the skill to weild 3 swords like that.
ooo, I like that theory a lot.
or suddenly, someone from water 7 is a freaking legendary blacksmith and he can upgrade all of Zoro's katana and fixed the broken one…...
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Just a thought… what if Zoro uses the remaining money from Skypiea to buy a kickass sword or a sword he feels he must own for some reason?
For the flashback Zoro had in Chapter 431 about Ippon-Matsu giving him Yubashiri makes me think that he feels like Yubashiri needs to be reforged
I really hope Zoro meet a blacksmith that say something like "when I made this sword long ago I never thought I would see it back" then he will complain about Zoro destroying the sword but in the end he will reforge Yubashiri (and the new Yubashiri will be even better then the older one)
For the flashback Zoro had in Chapter 431 about Ippon-Matsu giving him Yubashiri makes me think that he feels like Yubashiri needs to be reforged
I really hope Zoro meet a blacksmith that say something like "when I made this sword long ago I never thought I would see it back" then he will complain about Zoro destroying the sword but in the end he will reforge Yubashiri (and the new Yubashiri will be even better then the older one)
Yeah, i thought so too…. because in order to reforge Yabashiri...... no normal blacksmith can do it, even if they try, it won't last for even one battle......
hopefully, Zoro will meet someone legendary enough to reforge it or the legendary someone will give him one of their finest work....
I think alot of the flashback's emotional impact has been lost on most people: Ippon-Matsu gave Zoro his family treasure. He then told his wife that it was "all right to entrust another man with your dreams."
Ippon-matsu clearly loves swords. His family has owned that sword shop in Logue Town for over two hundred years. But just selling swords didn't seem to be what made him happy. Remember that Ippon-san only gave Zoro Yubashiri after the latter's 'luck' overcame the bloodlust of Kitetsu. Yubashiri was a gift to a fine swordsman-a swordsman of a caliber Ippon-san had not seen in some time.
Like most blade weapons, a well-made katana has some intrinsic beauty: the gentle curve of its blade, the pattern of the steel (revealing some of the forging process used), the way light reflects off of it. These are all part of its beauty as an object. But a sword has a different kind of beauty as well: its efficiency as a tool. A sword is a tool for killing. A well-made sword should therefore kill very well. It can do its job best when wielded by someone skilled in the use of that tool. Zoro fits that bill nicely. That's why Ippon-matsu gave him his treasure.
As stated above, Ippon-matsu loves swords. Not merely for their intrinsic beauty, but for their functional beauty as well. Perhaps he was a swordsman himself, in his youth. Perhaps he too longed to be The Greatest. We may never know. What we do know is that he has a wife and tends the family business-and that he's not always happy about either. At his introduction, he was shown to be a greedy, stingy, shifty character. The brief interlude with Zoro and Tashigi, two swordfighters who love swords as much as he, must have rekindled the spark of his old ambitions, wiped some of the tarnish called Reality off of the gleaming gold that was his Dream. The gift of Yubashiri was a promise asked and a vow taken: To use this sword well in order to become the Greatest.
Is it any wonder then, that Zoro looks so depressed? He follows a strict code of personal honour. To break an oath is a serious breach of that code. He feels that he has not merely failed himself, but Ippon-Matsu as well.
hmm, if he's gonna have a new sword, i hope it'll be one of the Oo-Wazamono
except that it has a devil fruit, but not too cheap of a DF… maybe a zoan is cool... but iono, if he fights mihawk with it, mihawk might have a disadvantage, which wll be wrong...
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I've been mulling many of these thoughts too, but just couldn't put them into words as eloquently as you have ... I think your characterization of Ippon Matsu is perceptive and gives him more credit and sympathy than most OP readers do. _In a previous thread, I said that it seemed as if a very strong emotion/feeling was keeping Zoro from letting go of Yubashiri. I caught the vibe, but couldn't place it exactly – but I think your guess is dead-on : that the "very strong emotion" is a mix of guilt, frustration, anger, and sadness. I sense too that Zoro somehow feels he's failed Ippon Matsu or betrayed his trust by breaking Ippon Matsu's family treasure as well as his dream.
And because of this -- (and the fact that there isn't much left of the blade) -- I feel that reforging can't be an option : it would reek of "whoops! try it again! I goofed the first time!". Yet letting go of Yubashiri couldn't be an option either, because that would be worse than breaking a promise : that would be abandoning a promise! And if there's one thing we know about Zoro, it's that he takes his promises very seriously.
The only other "solution" that comes to my mind is for Zoro to somehow adapt his Santoryu techinques so that they incorporate two perfect swords and one broken sword. (I know this sounds odd, but we've seen in other anime – like RuroKen -- that a broken sword is not entirely worthless, that it can still be used for blocking and defense, and like a blunt dagger at close range).
One last thing : you mentioned the beauty of a sword -- the curve of the blade, the patterns from tempering, etc. and I think it was Refii who said that a good sword makes a good swordsman better ...
... these two things I know from experience -- not with swords, but with kitchen knives. :)
I'm a fairly good cook (nowhere near as good as Sanji though!) so a few years back, I bought myself three high-quality kitchen knives. After a while, I began to sense that the knives were making my cooking better.
How? Well, they were sharper, so cutting was easier. They were durable, so I could use them heavily. They had nice balance, so I didn't have to exert as much pressure to cut through things. The handles were carefully shaped, so it was easier get a good grip on them and therefore I was less likely to cut myself with them. And finally, since they were easy to use and felt comfortable in my hands, I was more inclined to prepare food that required a lot of cutting than I'd ever been before, so I tried out a bigger variety of recipes.
Trial and error taught me how to sharpen them and how to store them and wash them to keep them strong. I am very attached to these knives. Like sanji says, they're "the soul of a cook".
I imagine it's the same feeling -- only much much stronger -- between a swordsman and a sword. Especially if the swordsman has to carry the additional psychological weight of two other swords(wo)men with him. Think about it : he's carrying two dreams as well as two treasures (Kuina's and Matsu's).
And who knows what psychological baggage the third sword (Kitetsu) brings with it ..._
Think about it like this… there is a man who holds a capable katana...not 10 feet away from Zoro at this very moment...
Yes the right hand man of Garp who is a skilled swordsman in his own right may have one of the legendary swords...
Surely Zoro will notice it... maybe he'll ask him for advice.
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Think about it like this… there is a man who holds a capable katana...not 10 feet away from Zoro at this very moment...
Yes the right hand man of Garp who is a skilled swordsman in his own right may have one of the legendary swords...
Surely Zoro will notice it... maybe he'll ask him for advice.
In One Piece, everything happens for a reason.
Actually, Although zoro may feelbad for losing the sword I dont' see him just walkign up to amarine and sking for advice. :/ Even if the marine's captain is Luffy's grandfather. It would ust seem out of character for Zoro I guess. :/
Kaze: It could very well be the other way around. Maybe the swordsman noticed the famous three-sword user Zoro use only two swords against 'Meppo. Or he notices the quality, in short: He might approach Zoro.
dinty: The beauty of a blade, no matter it's purpose, is always something magical. Every blade is different, even mass produced knives develop a genuine 'face' after a short while. Swords which are one of a kind have an incredible strong soul, I think it's nice how Oda worked that into OP. I'm really interested in what the Kitetsu will behave like in the future…as far as I remember, the curse hasn't really been mentioned except for one maybe two times during the whole series.
Btw: I'm a cook and I know exactly what you are talking about, professional knives take the work to a higher level and it feels almost painful if you have to step down and use something of lesser quality.
As for the Yubashiri replacement issue, I think Zoro will keep Yuba but it won't be reforged yet. I think that Oda might give this issue a single spotlight later on. Maybe Zoro will keep it with him and pick up a replacement making it four sword sheaths in his belt. Or he'll lock it in his cabin on the new ship but that'd be quite dangerous.
unless a legendary blacksmith pops up, Yabashiri is not going to be reforge anytime soon…...
I feel that Zoro will get another katana as replacement, then later get Yabashiri fix/upgraded.
If you guys know anything about swords (or common sense for that matter) you would know that a half melted sword can not be reforged because most of the metal is gone anyway, but if you know anything about swords (seriously this time) you would know that once a sword breaks, it would never be as strong as it was before. This isn't Lord of the Rings, I'm afraid.
Zoro will need a new sword for sure… tho it could be made by the same blacksmith that made yubashiri. That would be the only relation.
no zoro will go to toys'r'us and get him a sweet triple slash set for only $24.99 and a name change…. >>>> http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/dragonballzcentral_1917_956401490
stabs her little sister
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anyway, i think the next sword zoro gets should have an "unique" type quality (forged from something not ordinary, like that quartz thing you guys said, or maybe a really weird size berserk <3 or maybe have some interesting extra like it bends at wierd angles or made so thin and sharp its transparent diamonds maybe?)
*dont kill me for my stupid ideas plz ;o; *
I understand what you mean….but IF Zoro meets the blacksmith that makes Yabashiri.... he/she probably can reforge it........
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You cant reforge that sword tho, the other part pretty much turned into dust if im not mistaken. You can only reforge when u have most of the sword together, if you just have half than its a completely different sword when remade.
He needs a heavenly sword. Like the curse seal Orochimaru uses, some are earth, others heaven, and some hell.
let's hope if another kick ass sword….. but not legendary....
If you guys know anything about swords (or common sense for that matter) you would know that a half melted sword can not be reforged because most of the metal is gone anyway, but if you know anything about swords (seriously this time) you would know that once a sword breaks, it would never be as strong as it was before. This isn't Lord of the Rings, I'm afraid.
Zoro will need a new sword for sure… tho it could be made by the same blacksmith that made yubashiri. That would be the only relation.
yes but its also not real life
