yea I agree, the lame Mr. 3 puns are just a what the hell moment. Still I want to see the ruin that will be the actual street fights. Especially Sanji vs Mr. 2, the evil that comes from that fight will make little kid's heads explode.
Official 4kids Dub Thread Mk III (The End Has Come)
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I'm just dreading the fights:
#1 They'll make it look like Chopper does everything, and Usopp does nothing in thier fight. They'll cut out his speech, too. 4Kids seems hell bent on making Usopp look eternally useless and a supreme pain in the Strawhat Crew's arse.
#2 They'll just make it so that Sanji can't hit the woman he loves.. everything else will go.
#3 Nami's fight may stay exactly the same, but I can't remember how much her dress gets ripped. They'll edit it if it's too high up. Also the strangled dove will disappear to.
#4 And the worst one - All blood will disappear, of course. The entire fight will be cut from 20 mins down to just 8. And, no matter what it takes, they are not going to explain how to cut steel. That will be gone. Zoro will just somehow know how to do it.
#5 Not sure how shrivelled Luffy will be handled, because they kept in the dried up arm, which I thought they'd cut. One things for sure - they'll edit it so that it looks like crocs holding his shoulder, not his throat, just like Mr. 3.
#6 There'll be no scorpion poison, or secret knife either. Finally, not that this is anything new but, Luffy will beat croc with either his sweat, or spit. Most likely sweat, because they can't encourage spitting now, can they? Gomu Gomu no Storm may be cut down a bit too.
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I'm just dreading the fights:
#1 They'll make it look like Chopper does everything, and Usopp does nothing in thier fight. They'll cut out his speech, too. 4Kids seems hell bent on making Usopp look eternally useless and a supreme pain in the Strawhat Crew's arse.
#2 They'll just make it so that Sanji can't hit the woman he loves.. everything else will go.
#3 Nami's fight may stay exactly the same, but I can't remember how much her dress gets ripped. They'll edit it if it's too high up. Also the strangled dove will disappear to.
#4 And the worst one - All blood will disappear, of course. The entire fight will be cut from 20 mins down to just 8. And, no matter what it takes, they are not going to explain how to cut steel. That will be gone. Zoro will just somehow know how to do it.
#5 Not sure how shrivelled Luffy will be handled, because they kept in the dried up arm, which I thought they'd cut. One things for sure - they'll edit it so that it looks like crocs holding his shoulder, not his throat, just like Mr. 3.
#6 There'll be no scorpion poison, or secret knife either. Finally, not that this is anything new but, Luffy will beat croc with either his sweat, or spit. Most likely sweat, because they can't encourage spitting now, can they? Gomu Gomu no Storm may be cut down a bit too.
Actually, by the looks of the previews from the Naruto promo-discs in SJ, The hook and knife ARE kept, its just that Luffy looks sparkly-clean throughout the fight.
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Actually, by the looks of the previews from the Naruto promo-discs in SJ, The hook and knife ARE kept, its just that Luffy looks sparkly-clean throughout the fight.
Oh, I haven't seen that.
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Actually, by the looks of the previews from the Naruto promo-discs in SJ, The hook and knife ARE kept, its just that Luffy looks sparkly-clean throughout the fight.
GASP!
In Dub Piece, Luffy is allowed to use Gear Second against Crocodile? While us Japanese original fans have to wait until all the way until the Enies Lobby arc to see it. Damn you Al Kahn for messing up the timeline, again.Actually wait if he is shiny and clean in the tomb then what logical way can he actually hit Crocodile then? Only some sort of liquid on him would allow the sand to be kept in a compact state to recieve damage. All this thinking aboot the plotholes in Dub Piece are making my head hurt.
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They'll probably use sweat, which is clear… >_>;
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4kids Profit Falls Again 9% decline brings income to $34,000.
Article->http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?id=9338
4kids' falling profits aren't anything new, but I thought you guys would want to know about it.
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4kids Profit Falls Again 9% decline brings income to $34,000.
Article->http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?id=9338
4kids' falling profits aren't anything new, but I thought you guys would want to know about it.
good good…just keep falling 4kids
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Fall 4kids..Burn your asses in hell..Why dont you anime-ruining bastards just drop One Piece and cut fucking up our anime? The more you do it, the more they fall..
But those idiots dont even realize it so who gives a damn about them..Let them fall!
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too bad they're out of any long term debt.
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Looks like all of that money they got from Pokemon is going down the drain. With the situation they're in now; there's no way they can keep up with their stupid edits. Lets just hope they give One Piece to another company.
EDIT: If Viva Pinata does bad, then they're screwed.
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Business Wire had that news up about six days ago. I posted it in the last thread before it got closed.
But yes, 4kids is slowly shrinking away.
Kahn also cited 4Kids's new strategy of owning a property rather than licensing it, which he said hurt short-term profits this quarter.
Actually, this isn't really a bad thing. Assuming something like Viva Pinata does well, then chances are they'll just move on completely to developing their own crap in-house or by collaborating with other companies, and just let their anime lisences expire.
Either way, things are looking brighter for us!
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Question for Cosmic or whichever mod comes in here.
Can we predict events that haven't happened in the anime yet? That means in the manga here in the 4Kids thread?
Thanks.
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You can talk about anything that has happened in the anime so far, but not beyond that without using the spoiler tag. Just try to think that not everyone here reads the manga, and also, not everyone may be watching beyond Kaizoku-Fansubs. Just be careful about things that might be a spoiler to someone. I think everyone knows about Usopp/Luff fight by now.
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Business Wire had that news up about six days ago. I posted it in the last thread before it got closed.
It probably got passed over by most due to the attack on the 4kids forums. I was the one who posted the episode titles in the other thread but everyone ignored it.
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It probably got passed over by most due to the attack on the 4kids forums. I was the one who posted the episode titles in the other thread but everyone ignored it.
Yeah, I didn't really wanna mention the 4kids forum escapade, since were off to a good start here…<<....>>....
Anyways, quick question, How many episodes total are in the Alabasta arc? And who hasn't lost the bet at this point?
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Yeah, I didn't really wanna mention 4kids forum escapade, since were off to a good start here…<<....>>....
Anyways, quick question, How many episodes total are in the Alabasta arc? And who hasn't lost the bet at this point?
ARG not this 4KIDS forum crap again. Sheesh does this stuff ever stop?
Um I originally bet that almost all the episodes were going to exist execpt for maybe/possibly seven or eight. Those episodes would be just edited down and merged into other episodes.
Well I didn't actually say that on this forum but another actually.
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You know what I noticed? 4kids either cuts stuff or makes it stupid. I mean now they're leaving a lot of stuff in, but they're making it retarded. Like in the first season they probably would have cut Mr 3 opening the cage and there'd be a really stupid plothole… instead he opens it, but tells a joke instead. So it makes me wonder what Gomu Gomu no Storm will be like.
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You know what I noticed? 4kids either cuts stuff or makes it stupid.
Wait, you just noticed this NOW? XD
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That video was sad in so many ways. Mr. 3's voice is so damn monotonous. And laughing so he could open the door… The kittens are crying.
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Yeah, I didn't really wanna mention the 4kids forum escapade, since were off to a good start here…<<....>>....
Anyways, quick question, How many episodes total are in the Alabasta arc? And who hasn't lost the bet at this point?
I recall someone's friend saying it would be fully uncut. I guess they won. >_> Unless they cancel One Piece now. :E
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I recall someone's friend saying it would be fully uncut. I guess they won. >_> Unless they cancel One Piece now. :E
Now now. Fully uncut? I wish.
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Now now. Fully uncut? I wish.
Well, you know what I meant.
4kids needs to cut stuff to have room for ads, so they can make more $$$
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Can anyone post the bets we had on episode count? I forget where they were.
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Lol. I know I lost. I put 15.
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I put 26… XD I think it's coming soon...
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I think I put 32 but I can't remember. I'm pretty sure tho.
They've already aired 18 and Alabasta is 38 episodes long.
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Sorry. That aint gonna happen. This is 4Kids. And besides, they will still have Luffy and Usopp a la puberty, Nami the bitch, Zor– erm, Zolo the pun receiver, Chopper the Actual Good Voice, Vivi the Robot and Crocodile the Chaser Sound-alike.
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Yeah, sure, even with the censored scenes, some worse than others as seen, the dub still put a lot of scenes out of original order.
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Sorry. That aint gonna happen. This is 4Kids. And besides, they will still have Luffy and Usopp a la puberty, Nami the bitch, Zor– erm, Zolo the pun receiver, Chopper the Actual Good Voice, Vivi the Robot and Crocodile the Chaser Sound-alike.
I know. I was joking.
Well… I do actually wish, but I know we're dealing with 4Kids here.
Though, if ever a chance in hell they made some, I would buy them. Even with the dub voices. For an uncut dvd they'll most likely have the original Japanese version in it anyways. And buying them leagaly is better than fansubs to me.
Alas... Such a chance isn't going to happen anytime soon, anyways.
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I know. I was joking.
Well… I do actually wish, but I know we're dealing with 4Kids here.
Though, if ever a chance in hell they made some, I would buy them. Even with the dub voices. For an uncut dvd they'll most likely have the original Japanese version in it anyways. And buying them leagaly is better than fansubs to me.
Alas… Such a chance isn't going to happen anytime soon, anyways.
Absolutely right. No offense to the fansubbers, but I'd rather spend my money on a decently produced dub, knowing that it supports the industry and the original creator.
Which is all the more reason we complain about 4kids here. Hack up the original version and then expect people to pay for DVDs of the same censored crap they saw on TV. Y'know, in some sense, the dub IS kinda being forced on us isn't it?
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Yep, which is why I have all intention of Importing it (damn the costs to import it) when I get the money. =P
I'll support those who need it, and not money-whores like 4kids who take pleasure in killing priceless pieces of art.
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I really don't see the big deal.
How long have all of us been waiting for uncut One Piece?
If 4Kids finnally made them (and granted, If the subtitles were good) I would leap for them… A boxset of like 15 episodes (or more)? That would be just fantastic.
I mean... If they finnally make uncuts and no one buys 'em... Then what was the point of us always bothering them for them?
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I have yet to get a real OP DVD set. That's gonna be quite a haul when I do get it.
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I don't know if it's the Anti-4kids part of me, or just the part of me that hates bad dubs, but I will not touch any horribly dubbed anime, no matter HOW good it was in Japanese.
Call me overzealous, but I'd rather be happy that I spent 300+ on a good product that I can enjoy, than spend 100+ on a shitty product that I'll detest.
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But… If they ever made uncut dvd's... They'll have the Japanese version... And cost a hell of alot cheaper than the Japanese dvd's... Which would have no subtitles.
There's no questioning that if uncuts were made with good subtitles they would be good... Don't see how it would be a shitty product.
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4Kids is never, ever, EVER going to release uncut DVD's. Case closed, court adjourned.
(That's pessimist for "It's not likely that they will do so".)
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4Kids is never, ever, EVER going to release uncut DVD's. Case closed, court adjourned.
(That's pessimist for "It's not likely that they will do so".)
Yes, yes. I know.
But… It's just a "what-if" question.
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I really don't see the big deal.
How long have all of us been waiting for uncut One Piece?
If 4Kids finnally made them (and granted, If the subtitles were good) I would leap for them… A boxset of like 15 episodes (or more)? That would be just fantastic.
I mean... If they finnally make uncuts and no one buys 'em... Then what was the point of us always bothering them for them?
Quality, my friend.
And quality was one of the big problems with the 4kids uncuts of Yu-Gi-Oh and Shaman King. 4kids didn't really put alot of effort into them. Those DVDs contatined dubtitles, which is just the spoken English script with only one or two differences for the names. That being said, some of the translation was off completely.
There were only 3 episodes a piece too, barely any extras, and they weren't exactly fully uncut either. They had removed the second eyecatches and previews to the next episode, and they didn't even translate the credits or even list English credits for that matter.
Nevertheless, the actual episdoes themselves were unedited and uncut.
I've heard on one side that they didn't sell well at all, and another side saying that had some success, outselling their edited counterparts.
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We could also "what-if", if we decided to make mockery of Al Kahn and 4kids, among other things.
But as I said, I'd rather support the Japanese than the Americans, if only because if I got it from Japan (and made sure it wasn't a terrible Chinese-bootleg), I would know the money went to a good cause.
Can you honestly tell me that sending money to 4kids is a good cause?
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Quality, my friend.
And quality was one of the big problems with the 4kids uncuts of Yu-Gi-Oh and Shaman King. 4kids didn't really put alot of effort into them. Those DVDs contatined dubtitles, which is just the spoken English script with only one or two differences for the names. That being said, some of the translation was off completely.
There were only 3 episodes a piece too, barely any extras, and they weren't exactly fully uncut either. They had removed the second eyecatches and previews to the next episode, and they didn't even translate the credits or even list English credits for that matter.
Nevertheless, the actual episdoes themselves were unedited and uncut.
I've heard on one side that they didn't sell well at all, and another side saying that had some success, outselling their edited counterparts.
That's what I'm saying though. "What-if" 4Kids made a good quality uncut DVD.
I know, it ain't gonna happen. But play along people.
I'm asking if they did indeed make a quality dvd… Would you buy it? Or would the 4Kids name on it still scare you away?
As for me... I'd buy them. I really don't care that the 4Kids logo is there, as long as the actual product is worthwhile and good.
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Well considering I could once rant for hours on end after hearing "Zolo" (no joke either =P), I probably still wouldn't buy Uncut versions.
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That's what I'm saying though. "What-if" 4Kids made a good quality uncut DVD.
I know, it ain't gonna happen. But play along people.
I'm asking if they did indeed make a quality dvd… Would you buy it? Or would the 4Kids name on it still scare you away?
As for me... I'd buy them. I really don't care that the 4Kids logo is there, as long as the actual product is worthwhile and good.
Seconded, no question about it.
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I'd download it =D
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And this is part of the reason why it won't get released. XD
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Personally, I would probably not buy the 4kids DVDs, just because of what they HAVE done, but buying the uncut DVDs, especially with 4kids label on them, would give them the message that the uncuts, when produced correctly, will yield the greatest return!
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Like some guy said before, 4Kids either accidently screwed up the uncuts or they wanted to show how weak they are. I haven't seen them in real life, I'm just bringing up something I heard.
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Another dub-sub video comparison posted on YouTube. Just some random scenes in the Alabasta arc side-by-side. A good thing if you want to compare the voices or whatnot…