R.I.P. David Bowie
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This whole thing is crazy. I don't know if Bowie planned dying right after his album came out but I could see him doing something like that just to make people talk. Even crazier that he managed to record such a great album right before he died. It's honestly a perfect way for him to go out.
Unlikely.
David Bowie had been battling cancer for 18 months. The fact that he died a week after the release of his final album can be chalked up to nothing more than an unfortunate coincidence.
That being said, R.I.P., David Bowie.
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@Kaba:
Unlikely.
David Bowie had been battling cancer for 18 months. The fact that he died a week after the release of his final album can be chalked up to nothing more than an unfortunate coincidence.
That being said, R.I.P., David Bowie.
Nonetheless it sounds heavily like he knew he was on the way out and wanted to make one last album.
Brian Eno even said he got a message from him like a week or so before he died that was a seemingly generic yet strange "We had some great times, you're a good friend".
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@Monkey:
Nonetheless it sounds heavily like he knew he was on the way out and wanted to make one last album.
Brian Eno even said he got a message from him like a week or so before he died that was a seemingly generic yet strange "We had some great times, you're a good friend".
Bowie knew he was dying.My context was in regards to the notion that people believe Bowie committed suicide for the sake of album sales, which I find to be more conspiracy flavor of the day. I don't play the conspiracy card because I am a firm believer in rational discussion, plus the notion seems like a slap to the face to Bowie himself.
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Nobody's saying he killed himself. He knew he was going to die of cancer and it's not like people knowing around when that will happen hasn't happened before. It was just a really interesting thing to happen and seemed planned, not as in he killed himself but as in he knew around when he was going to die. Though this is disproved by him apparently working on another album and the producer saying he thought he had a few more months, but I made that post you quoted right after he died and at the time it seemed very likely.
And even if it wasn't as planned as it seemed, the album is still obviously a goodbye album and did coincide with his death so as to make it somewhat of a spectacle. And Bowie was known for spectacle.
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Nobody's saying he killed himself. He knew he was going to die of cancer and it's not like people knowing around when that will happen hasn't happened before. It was just a really interesting thing to happen and seemed planned, not as in he killed himself but as in he knew around when he was going to die. Though this is disproved by him apparently working on another album and the producer saying he thought he had a few more months, but I made that post you quoted right after he died and at the time it seemed very likely.
And even if it wasn't as planned as it seemed, the album is still obviously a goodbye album and did coincide with his death so as to make it somewhat of a spectacle. And Bowie was known for spectacle.
You can't just assume likely causes. It's better to wait until all the facts are in before discussing the outcome. Sure, it's easy to pose likely scenarios, but they tend to derail rational discussion in favour of conspiracy, no matter how plausible it is. That was the point I was trying to make. That being said…
I wonder if any member of Bowie's production team or family would step forward and state that Blackstar was the fruit of Bowie's final work to the fans of his music and music in general? Probably. Probably not. But it would be good to know.
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Probably not, considering he's still got stuff lined up to be released post mortem.
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@Kaba:
You can't just assume likely causes. It's better to wait until all the facts are in before discussing the outcome.
Why not? Are there some stakes here I'm missing? Nothing being said is very irrational. Serious cancers usually come with "X months to live" if it's advanced, which could have spurred him to start working on an album very easily. And he could have decided to hold off releasing it until he felt the end was near, maybe not. It's really not that crazy.
I wonder if any member of Bowie's production team or family would step forward and state that Blackstar was the fruit of Bowie's final work to the fans of his music and music in general? Probably. Probably not. But it would be good to know.
I don't think they would even need to say something that…well shit, obvious.
A person dying of cancer doesn't do so invisibly (hell even people likely to survive will visibly be fucked). People who would have been working with him in studios would have clearly seen something was very wrong.
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@Monkey:
Why not? Are there some stakes here I'm missing? Nothing being said is very irrational. Serious cancers usually come with "X months to live" if it's advanced, which could have spurred him to start working on an album very easily. And he could have decided to hold off releasing it until he felt the end was near, maybe not. It's really not that
crazy.Did you speak with David Bowie before he died? Did you get confirmation from his production team or his agent?
I don't think they would even need to say something that…well shit, obvious.
A person dying of cancer doesn't do so invisibly (hell even people likely to survive will visibly be fucked). People who would have been working with him in studios would have clearly seen something was very wrong.
That's unless studio/production stuff was done through emailed recordings and stuff.Obvious is obvious but I would rather have the facts presented.