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      Cross Ange: Rondo of Angels and Dragons is a 2-cour edgy mecha action show that has began airing this Fall season, year of our lord 2014. As of making of this thread, 3 episodes have been released out of planned 25, shamelessly, for everyone to see.

      What is it about?

      In a world where Light of Mana has turned the world into a rosy utopia with magical baggage levitation and Quadditch, everyone has these fancy lame magical powers that allow them to do lame things, except those rare humans who don't. These are called Norma, they're reviled as horrific subhuman abominations and immediately removed, even babies! Like, babies are put into glass boxes and taken away as random bystanders look upon them in horror (it's as dumb as it sounds)! Also all of them happen to be female.

      Enter Angelise Ikaruga Misurugi, the member of the royal family. Why she's the most perfect shoujorific princess, beloved by all… that is until her evil Onii-sama publicly reveals the terrifying secret she never knew - that she was a Norma all along. Our protagonist is taken away to the same place s all those other women, the Rape Isla... sorry, I mean island base of "Arsenal" where they are "disciplined" into fighting DRAGONS FROM ANOTHER DIMENSION in giant robots while wearing stupid skimpy outfits.

      Who are the characters?

      Hitler Cagalli
      aka Angelise Ikaruga Raiden Gradius McWhatever aka Ange

      Our heroine. In her peaceful days, she was the most wonderful amazing princess you could ever dream of… well... except spouting ultra-racist hate speech that would make a KKK member blush and having whimsical dreams of ethnic cleansing. After all, she loves her world of kittens and rainbows and butterflies and figures that it would be even more kittens and raibows and butterflies if those filthy non-magical subhumans would just die. But now she has to deal with her new hard life where Bad Things happen to her in what's basically a Women's Prison slash frontline. Creepy Sexploitation Things.

      Evil Creepy Onii-sama
      aka Julio Asuka Misurugi

      He rats out Hitler Cagalli in order to usurp the power. Also plans to "restore the purity of the family line" with his other, 12 year old NotNunally sister. Yes, that's creepy as fuck.

      NotNunnaly
      aka Sylvia Ikaruga Misurugi

      Youngest princess. Completely innocent and unaware of the stuff going on. Seemingly bound to a wheelchair based on the first episode. Her brother wants to bang her apparently. Because this anime the worst.

      What's-her-name

      The commander/ prison warden of the fine establishment of Arzenal. She rules the place with an iron fist (because she has a robot hand, get it?). She welcomes Hitler Cagalli "into hell" by anally probing her in the very first episode.

      The rest of the Normas



      …etc

      Who cares, they die every episode for the sake of shock value. Also randomly shown in scenes of lesbian sex. The sex isn't always consensual. Especially if Hitler Cagalli is involved because this is really a Female Prison Sexploitation schlock somehow crossbred with edgy grimdark mecha.

      Also starring:

      Jesus Yamato

      as himself.

      Who made this?

      Studio Sunrise,with a certain Fukuda of Gundam SEED fame listed as the Creative Producer.

      !

      Why should I watch this?

      You shouldn't.

      Then why even open this thread?

      Because hatewatching, or rather, hatereading, is our fine, respected passtime, is it not? There happen to be a handful of depraved individuals here willing to indulge in this atrocity and rather than turn the Fall 2014 thread, a thread dedicated to an admittedly rather solid season, into the de facto discussion thread of this dumbass show, it's better to have a thread for it. Some of us like watching a special kind of trainwreck, and in this particular case the train comes wooshing of the rails, crashing babies (in glass boxes) and kittens as it rolls down the hill into trainwreck vallhalla!

      If you want an unironically enjoyable show, keep away from this. If you are concious about how women get treated in fiction, keep the hell away from this for your own sanity.

      But it is hilariously bad.

      Here comes the comedy of the season!

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        I eagerly anticipate the weekly loathing

        although I doubt that I'll make the only anime I watch right now Cross Ange

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          I hate you all…

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            TLC's got the right spirit for this

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              @Purple:

              I eagerly anticipate the weekly loathing

              Fun & Loathing In Arlong Park:ninja:

              Originally Posted by Ubiq

              I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting

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                You gotta love how the episode starts with the girl getting cut in half and there is this cheerful music playing in the background.^^ Off to watch the rest.

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                  Better shows with dragons that you could be watchng this season:
                  Chaika the Coffin Princess season 2
                  Rage of Bahamut: Genesis

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                    "She cared for her comrades" Ah, so that is why she sexually assaulted them when she felt like it.

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                      I hate you all…

                      Don't blame us. Blame your curiousity. I wrote many comments to warn you, to warn you all. Why didn't you listen to my cries of agony?

                      Seriously though I rather watch World Trigger or the Ronja anime over that one anytime. It's better to watch shitty animation or "boring" atmosphäre than pretty looking bowl full of shit.

                      @MajinArekkusu:

                      "She cared for her comrades" Ah, so that is why she sexually assaulted them when she felt like it.

                      She clearly cared more for them than Ange did. Ange even forgot how she was the cause for their deaths and instead was all drama-like "I won't die as easily as you guys." and me "YOU FUCKING KILLED THEM!!! THEY DIDN'T DIED EASILY BECAUSE THEY WERE WEAK BUT BECAUSE YOU WERE ACTING LIKE A BITCH AND STILL DOES SO!!!!". And what the hell was up with that pudding scene, the whole tears bs totally feels like she was crying because this pudding was DISGUSTING, not because she feels sorry for a little girl she ot killed with ehr desertation.

                      And don't get me started on htat supermecha she got as "reward"….

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                        @MajinArekkusu:

                        "She cared for her comrades" Ah, so that is why she sexually assaulted them when she felt like it.

                        Are we supposed to be saddened when everyone is a horrible person in addition to being two-bit cannon fodder?

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                          Gotta stop letting my curiosity and love of snark over this show take up my time otherwise both my laptop and vita will be dead.

                          Originally Posted by Ubiq

                          I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting

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                            I have never seen a more botched up character arc in my life and I read Freezing, a manga where the main heroine draws her strength from the memory of her awful mother who told her to bear with being raped by her step-brother. This is somehow even worse…

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                              Oh wow, first she pisses herself, then after the battle they really zoom in on her hard nipples. They are really trying to be offensive as much as they can, and they have to be doing it on purpose, cause if they seriously think this is good storytelling, oh boy.

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                                Definitely the best lacrosse manga I ever read.

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                                  Like every step with this character was sheer ineptitude. Her first appearance was a big shot of her boobs. Her first act the writers used to give a first impression was to spew hateful KKK speech. She's caused the deaths of her comrades through sheer incompetence and showed no sign of remorse. Her big comeback moment was constantly trying to get herself killed, pussying out and then her fucking tears activated a magic bullshit powerup. But just before this, she pissed herself and we got treated to erect nipples immediately afterwards. What the fuck is this shiiiiit….

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                                  Like I'm starting to think we're not supposed to root for her. That we're supposed to hate her as this stupid, incompetent bitch. If that being the case, why is the show wasting my time with this awful, hateful character. Yet the story structure clearly indicates this is supposed to be some sort of hero's journey. So what the fuck...?

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                                    I hope now at least she won't mop around so much, since she cut her hair. And does anybody here think, that her brother and sister are really gone? I am sure the brother and his female assistant will be the bad guys and ange will have to rescue her sister etc.

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                                    God, those credits speeches are also sooo dumb.

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                                      This thread is expected to provide our subforum with a proper second hand experience of the Cross Ange franchise.

                                      If these expectations are not met, thread will be reported for filthy norma pandering which can not be tolerated.

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                                        @MajinArekkusu:

                                        God, those credits speeches are also sooo dumb.

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                                          Fuck this, someone start recommending me some good Gundam series, I need to start watching some good mech anime.

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                                            I'm tempted to say this isn't actually the worst anime this season but I'd actually have to watch this first. I won't mention the other show because some people here can't help themselves but out of curiosity would watching paint dry for 22 minutes a week be more or less entertaining? Y'all seem to be having enough fun with this in any case.

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                                              @TLC:

                                              Fuck this, someone start recommending me some good Gundam series, I need to start watching some good mech anime.

                                              Watch Giant Robo instead.

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                                              This thread is expected to provide our subforum with a proper second hand experience of the Cross Ange franchise.

                                              If these expectations are not met, thread will be reported for filthy norma pandering which can not be tolerated.

                                              You mean mods will put me in a glass box and send me away? Nooooooooooooooo!

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                                                @Sen:

                                                but out of curiosity would watching paint dry for 22 minutes a week be more or less entertaining?

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                                                Originally Posted by Ubiq

                                                I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting

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                                                  But for modern Gundam, one should watch… Gundam Build Fighters.

                                                  Yes, that one show about kids fighting each other with plamo models is gud.

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                                                    @Sander:

                                                    You mean mods will put me in a glass box and send me away? Nooooooooooooooo!

                                                    Precisely. Water park administration will then assign you to the manga subforum where after a course of of specialized personal training you will be forced to post new n.a.k.a.m.a. theories.

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                                                      Sunrise is actually trying its very best to make sure any of its incredibly awful tropes it's using here are never used again in the anime industry

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                                                        @Silverblade:

                                                        Precisely. Water park administration will then assign you to the manga subforum where after a course of of specialized personal training you will be forced to post new n.a.k.a.m.a. theories.

                                                        Oh nooo. And they will also force out eyes open like in clockwork orange and force us to reread the naruto war over and over.

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                                                        Sunrise is actually trying its very best to make sure any of its incredibly awful tropes it's using here are never used again in the anime industry

                                                        So you are saying they are actually trying to fight the good battle and change the anime industry for the better?

                                                        To support Viz and SHUEISHAs MANGA Plus service hosting all Jump manga for FREE, WORLDWIDE and day of release, Arlong Park will now support the official release.

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                                                          @MajinArekkusu:

                                                          So you are saying they are actually trying to fight the good battle and change the anime industry for the better?

                                                          It's the only logical explanation as to how this thing was green lit in the first place.

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                                                            @Purple:

                                                            It's the only logical explanation as to how this thing was green lit in the first place.

                                                            So like, Fukuda was drinking with his Sunrise pals one day:
                                                            -Dude, bet ya a million yen you can't do worse than Gundam SEED Destiny!
                                                            -You bet wrong.
                                                            -We'll see, will it have Jesus?
                                                            -Of course, Kira-kun transcends the boundaries of reality.
                                                            -What else will it have?
                                                            Fukuda cracks a sinister smile

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                                                              @Sander:

                                                              So like, Fukuda was drinking with his Sunrise pals one day:
                                                              -Dude, bet ya a million yen yyou can' do worse than Gundam SEED Destiny?
                                                              -You bet wrong.
                                                              -We'll see, will it have Jesus?
                                                              -Of course, Kira-kun transcends the boundaries of reality.
                                                              -What else will it have?
                                                              Fukuda cracks a sinister smile

                                                              See this doesn't make any sense. Who would want to be pals with Fukuda after GSD?

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                                                                Oh wonderful, you made the thread. Now all of my hatelove for this series won't have to be in a thread that discusses betterlesser anime.

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                                                                  @MajinArekkusu:

                                                                  So you are saying they are actually trying to fight the good battle and change the anime industry for the better?

                                                                  It could be that there are this many watchable shows this season because Cross Ange has mostly fulfilled the seasonal quota of suck by itself.

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                                                                    This whole fucking system of Norma and Mana users makes no fucking sense.

                                                                    This is basically Wizards being dicks to Norma(l) people for no good fucking reason. Maybe if we got a big backstory about where this racial intolerance came from, we could somehow relate but no, Normas are mutant scumbags because. It's just a very thinly veiled metaphor for racism that ultimately tells you nothing about the subtleties or nuances of racial intolerance, it's just a big fat sign saying racism is bad. It's like if someone made an anime about the KKK running a Utopia and sending black people to work in prisons to slay dragons. The anime is telling us "This is bad" and my reply would be "No shit, that's bad, why the fuck are you wasting my time with an obvious message". Yes, sending people to life-long enslavement for no good reason is bad, show, NO ONE will disagree, what else can you give me?

                                                                    Not to mention how senseless the system is. Why do Norma put up with this shit? Why do they just grin and bear lifelong servitude, they have a bunch of mechs at their disposal but they just follow orders and do their forced slave labor. There's no system in check to ensure obedience and prevent desertion or insubordination. Which shocker, Ange does, first thing. Then they act shocked when she fucks shit up and gets three people killed. Well, what the fuck did you expect? She didn't exactly make it a secret that she wanted nothing to do with the place. Gaaaaaaaaaaaah.

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                                                                      No you see, magic people love circle-jerking over how wonderful and magnificent their beloved Mana is. Norma destroy their flimsy magic barriers, which can be breached by simple sidearm, by mere touch by virtue of their anti-magicness, which in turn reminds magic people that their magic is pretty shit tier.

                                                                      So they put them babies in glass boxes. That the only way man, the only way.

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                                                                        I'm so glad I'm decided not to watch this show after hearing stuff about the first episode

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                                                                          What the fuck do they even do with the babies? Is there a kindergarden section at Arzenal?

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                                                                            actually there is. ange sat in a classroom with seven year olds.

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                                                                              I'm so glad I'm decided not to watch this show after hearing stuff about the first episode

                                                                              You better watch it and join our suffering.
                                                                              No wait, save yourself! Run! Run and never look back! RRRRRRUUUUUUUNNN~

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                                                                                Ideally in every season, there's got to be an anime that tanks all the hate that's supposed to go to other bad animes, or at least serves as bottom of the barrel so people can make comparison of what's bad and what's atrociously bad.
                                                                                This anime seems to be doing its job flawlessly.:ninja:

                                                                                "Where in this frail body do I find the strength to stand up?"

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                                                                                  I'm so glad I'm decided not to watch this show after hearing stuff about the first episode

                                                                                  We'll probably still wind up assaulting your senses with visuals like this.

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                                                                                  I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting

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                                                                                    If Jesus Yamato does ugly crying in this show too, it may as well be the fabled Gundam SEED Movie we were promised ages ago.

                                                                                    Also wincestbro is obviously Clovis ripoff – was killed by Lelouch, comes back in alternate reality to fuck Nunally; reincarnation revenge.

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                                                                                      @Green_vs_Red:

                                                                                      We'll probably still wind up assaulting your senses with visuals like this.
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                                                                                      None of those images work lol

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                                                                                        The real question is can Super Robot Wars feature this series and make it better?

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                                                                                        I have always been dissatisfied, I know that. But lately I find I reek of discontentment; it fills my throat and floods my brain. Sometimes I fear there's no longer a dream but only the discontentment.

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                                                                                          I'll get to watch Rondo in October and November, hooray!

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                                                                                            This is really the best comedy show of the season.

                                                                                            Watches Coco die.
                                                                                            Ange: Well that sucked. Oh wells. Gotta go.
                                                                                            *Coco's friend and yuri rape girl gets killed.
                                                                                            Ange: Why do all these non human pieces of trash keep dying on front of me? I need to go back.
                                                                                            *Gets almost killed and wakes up with everyone calling her a useless piece of crap..
                                                                                            Ange: So uh did my letter come yet?
                                                                                            Jill: No, your brother overthrew your father, and you got your mother killed in the process while being branded a norma.
                                                                                            Ange: So you're saying there's a chance?
                                                                                            *Goes to the graveyard too bury the dead bodies.
                                                                                            Ange: You guys all suck. Eat shit. I'm a real princess.
                                                                                            Jill: lol, u mad? Here's a top secret mech for you.
                                                                                            *Goes to fight the dragons.
                                                                                            Ange: Please kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiillllllllllllllllllllll mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!11111111
                                                                                            *Pisses herself and somehow gets turned on with zoomed in erect nipples.
                                                                                            Ange: I wanna live!
                                                                                            *Kills dragon, cuts hair and go into her room.
                                                                                            Ange: How could Coco eat this. This pudding is shit just like the norma are.

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                                                                                              Well I knew having the sequel to Build Fighters that has G Gundam influences and what seems to be a spiritual successor to Turn A Gundam running in the same season HAD to have a catch. Fukuda getting the worst mecha anime of all time greenlit was the catch. And so here I am watching it.

                                                                                              3 episodes in I have to wonder, is this show actually meant to be capitalizing on being so bad it's good (or at least so hateable that it gets views)? If so, Fukuda turned into a goddamn genius by capitalizing on the sucky writing that made GSD a trainwreck. If not, why the hell did he get the ok to make this?

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                                                                                                I have this feeling that they know they're making a terrible show, going by what Ange says in the previews e.g. "This is a terrible episode!" "This episode is also terrible!"

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                                                                                                  @loledinmypants:

                                                                                                  3 episodes in I have to wonder, is this show actually meant to be capitalizing on being so bad it's good (or at least so hateable that it gets views)? If so, Fukuda turned into a goddamn genius by capitalizing on the sucky writing that made GSD a trainwreck. If not, why the hell did he get the ok to make this?

                                                                                                  Sunrise haven't had a new break out hit franchise since, I dunno, Code Geass? Maybe after the rape scene in Valrave the Liberator (also knowns as "Valvrape the Lubricator") got people talking, they decided to take a bet on shock value?

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                                                                                                    @Sander:

                                                                                                    Sunrise haven't had a new break out hit franchise since, I dunno, Code Geass? Maybe after the rape scene in Valrave the Liberator (also knowns as "Valvrape the Lubricator") got people talking, they decided to take a bet on shock value?

                                                                                                    I knew there was a recent crappy mecha anime that Cross Ange vaguely reminded me of. Valvrave. Watch Jesus Yamato be some vampire/weredragon just so this show can go down as the unholy fusion of Valvrave and GSD.

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                                                                                                      Okay, you really need to educate me on this Jesus Yamato now.^^

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                                                                                                        @MajinArekkusu:

                                                                                                        Okay, you really need to educate me on this Jesus Yamato now.^^

                                                                                                        He cried for your sins

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