The themes were great.
Parental love is the strongest force in the universe taken literally…pfft You can tell Nolan had no idea what he was doing with them. He's infamous for his robotic characters and funnily enough, he tries to make the space film, his most sentimental one.
The themes were great. The characters were mostly great.
The characters ranged from meh to awful. McConaughey was doing his best tipsy impression, Anne Hathway was ughhhh, Mat Damon was bad but funny, the two astronauts who gives a damn, the son who gives a damn, the daughter meh, I guess the best characters were John Lithgow (who they unceremoniously killed) and Michael Caine whenever I could understand him over the loud music.
The themes were great. The father-daughter emotions were phenomenal. I never got the "love transcends all dimensions" shoehorning from the movie as you did, so whatever.
Anne Hathaway had an entire speech about it. That's how unsubtle it was.
The themes were great. Pacing was meh at some places but nothing abysmal.
That entire middle half was a slog of Nolanisms that could have been replaced with a sign saying stuff happens.
The themes were great. The story and soundtrack were fantastic, despite some audio issues. And, mostly, the science was great up till pt3 which is purely speculative anyways so what gives?
Planets had light sources from non existent stars, off all the planets orbiting stars, they pick to explore the two orbiting black holes and I'm pretty sure they fucked up Relativity. Soundtrack I liked aside from how deafening it was though if I had to give another nitpick, I thought it would have fit a horror film more than a science fiction film.
The themes were great. While completely ridiculous to stay alive there, Science doesn't "know" ANYTHING about black holes, so there is no problem of inserting some fiction here -.-
I'm pretty sure there's a consensus that you go anywhere near a black hole, you're crushed to the smallest atom. Or even the acceleration and heat of being sucked in would vaporize you instantly.
The themes were great. So, you liked Looper and Oblivion and Blade Runner and Inception, which all crap on science in every single way? When talking about time travel and relativity, Looper was SO INCREDIBLY FALSE, it's really bad. Interstellar was perfect in this regard. Hail Mary they even mentioned you can't travel backwards in time, thank god - and you nitpick on it but not on Looper? Ouch. Twelve Monkeys is great according to my professor who teaches time travel and science/philosophy of time, I still haven't seen it though. Planet of the Apes series, the Thing, Aliens- yeah I don't have to mention those I guess?
I was asked which Sci-Fi films I liked not which ones had the most accurate science. All these movies I mentioned have different tones and different stories and different messages to give and their treatment of Science varies. I'm the first to agree that Looper's science was bad, yes you have time travel and all you use it for is body disposal, real smart. I liked it because of the exploration of human character and determinism, whether we are bound by fate or whether we can change our destiny, Sci-Fi should explore as much the human condition as it does scientific concepts. I could go on and on on all those movies if you want but suffice it to say, I hated Interstellar not just because of the bad science, if everything else was good, it would just be another Looper or Inception to me. Really, I'm just more pissed off at that movie on it's really dumb take on love vs science where it proves love is scientifically quantifiable (and miss the point of the theme completely) than orbiting black holes.
The themes were great. Nolan did try, a lot, in this movie, and contrary to your belief (to which you are entitled to) it really shows. This is not "science fantasy" as you might call it. Pretty much all the science addressed is accurate, and so much more accurate than any comparable movie I know or know of… So really, what I mean to say is - I don't get you.
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The themes were great. Edit: maybe if you brush up a bit on contemporary time&space travel theories and the science behind it, you might understand it a bit better.
Dude. I eat science fiction for breakfast, it's my favorite genre, this movie had McConaughey dock into a rotating space station, go WHOOO (which I liked because it was one his very few human moments), and immediately, immediately like two seconds later after, go "Oh shit, we're out of fuel, tell you what, we'll go through the event horizon of the black hole to slingshot us and…" Whuh? Where did he pull that plan out from?
This movie was dumb.
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"Love transcends all dimensions" didn't matter. That was just emotional undertone,
It was the crux of the film.
and everything else was made by super-intelligent species which evolved from humans well past the point of singularity.
And then, those creatures created stable paradox for their own existence.
Yeah Super Powerful alien beings who were actually human that could warp dimensions pulled out of nowhere. I guess it had foreshadowing but oh boy was it under explored.
That is only a theory, nobody knows what will happen to a living creature when it passes event horizon.
That's like saying we don't know what would happen if the sun blew up because it never happened. There's a scientific consensus on what black holes do. You can extrapolate what that would do to a living being. 1+1=2. I'm pretty sure it doesn't take you into hyper space.
Especially if that is a black hole made specifically for purpose of getting one man and a robot to the hypercube.
Was it said that the aliens made the black hole or simply commandeered it? Dumb either way.
2001 is full of religious metaphors and at the same time ideas of Nietzche which are a lot more "in your face" than anything about love in IS.
Where exactly is science in Edge of Tomorrow? It has aliens with time-travel blood and a plot of Groundhog Day. How is that not fantasy?
How is Minority Report not fantasy? It has people who can see the future.
Alien franchise, the Thing basically shit on actual biology yelling "Alien lifeforms not gonna explain a thing!" Not fantasy?
Looper has retarded premise, which can't be justified by any time-travel accuracy.
How is Inception not fantasy?
Dude, you're just getting into a strawman argument. If I like this I have to like this. No I don't because movies are a complex thing with a lot of different factors that go into it. Acting, directing, pacing, characters. Just look at my reply to Juvar about it. I hated this movie not just for the bad science but for a lot of reasons, just for fun's sake, I'll address the themes of the movies you mentioned for fun (again Sci-fi is not just about the science but about exploring the human condition)…but if you carry on about them, you'll just be missing the point of my argument.
I thought 2001's exploration of it's themes about evolution and reaching our potential were good until it got to space baby which I hate.
Edge of Tomorrow explored a man dealing with constantly having to relive a day and how it can take it out of you, I agree it's one of the more dubious choices.
Time viewing is actually theoretically possible. And it had a fuck load of determinism themes.
Alien had a pretty accurate representation of interstellar travel, I liked how much of a methodical movie it was with the way the characters explored the alien nest.
The Thing was an exploration of isolation and paranoia and how it can affect a man.
Looper, I addressed in my other post.
Inception creates this world and system and tries to follow these rules, it's no great film I agree, I liked it though, better than IS at least.
See, it seems that when you like the movie, you tend to overlook anything. But if you don't, everything is a flaw.
I don't overlook anything. I can LIKE a movie while still acknowledging its flaws. I know, radical concept. Avengers is one of my favorite movies, you think I don't recognize or appreciate what a dumb movie it is?
Interstellar is more science fiction than half of things you mentioned, but you still hate it.
And I've stated over and over it wasn't just because of the bad science. I can tolerate bad science like I did with Looper or Inception or whatever if it just gave me something else to latch on to. With that said, this is an adult sci-fi film, that has a man discover NASA because his daughter told him ghosts gave her the coordinates. Pft.
Yes, you hate 90% of everything,
So now we're down to 90%? Uh huh. Yet you have no idea how many movies I've seen (over 800 of what I can remember, and that's not counting books, TV shows, games, manga etc.) and what ratio of those I like.
but your top ten doesn't have single sci-fi movie, but has fantasy.
…So? It's still my favorite genre.
And suddenly IS is bad because not "muh hard Sci-Fi".
It's bad for many reasons.
Maybe you just don't like the genre?
Or maybe you should stop trying to put words in my mouth.
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Just wanted to say I agree with everything you said.
Me and my girlfriend went to see it because of me, mostly. She's not much of a SF fan. She ended up liking it more than I did, lol (the only problem was the length).
! I started having a bad feeling the moment Coop sat on the desk and started avoiding the subject of how he found NASA. You didn't think that mysrterious gravity morse message was an important bit of information for the mission, even if the fate of humanity wasn't at stake and leading scientist didn't think that gravity is the key to salvation? Maybe things wouldn't have been so hard if they figured out it was a message from the future. It might have actually been interesting to see characters guessing what they can or cannot safely do, considering someone was guiding them.
I saw this with my best friend and his girlfriend. His GF liked the parental stuff but couldn't give a damn about the science. My buddy pretty much shared my opinion on it though. We kept giving each other looks during the movie.