I need to reread this one , kinda confused for now
also damn cobra got old
I need to reread this one , kinda confused for now
also damn cobra got old
First time I read spoilers after a looong time, and when the actual chapter comes. . .3 pages in and I'm already thrown off-guard! A "great man" from centuries ago?? What the fuck, isn't this like the biggest thing in this chapter? Shouldn't we focus on this?
Also, I loved Fukaboshi in this chapter. Ultramarine, underwater boxing, not giving up after being fucked up twice by Kirisame. . .but, ABOVE ALL, he said everything we discussed and comented here, on this forum, about Hody's character making no sense. We called him just a twisted fuck, that him wanting to destroy FI made no sense, cause he'd be left with nothing at all after that, what are his intentions. . .We all discussed this after the chapter were he stabs Decken, and everyone thought his motives made no sense. Now it's Fukaboshi who adresses all of these concerns directly at Hody, and receives an answer. I thought some people might feel more "satisfied" now that Oda is trying to make sense outta Hody, right?
Only concern with this chapter is the incredibl weird "flashback" with the air tank guys, that page made me feel like an idiot cause I wasn't understanding a thing. Then it made sense, but still Oda could've foreshadowed it a bit more. Nothing major, though.
So, bottom line: Great chapter, Hody will get fleshed out, he isn't that much of a pussy anymore, Fukaboshi is easily one of the top 3 characters introduced post-TS, and lots of speculating time about Noah, the "Great Man" from centuries ago and Hody's past/intentions/wathever.
Aside from some counfusion as to the chronology of events, I tought this chapter was really sweet, simply from a pure action perspective.
And of course, the end, which will probably be the talk of the internet until we get an answer. Hopefully it'll be good!
Yeah Cobra got really fucking gray in just two years.
The great man Neptune spoke of is obviously Joy Boy.
For the firs time I can proudly say I am interested in Hody..
Good chapter,i guess only vivi and the guards will attend the meeting from alabasta side.
Funny it seems Hodi can grow teeth back realy fast and guess the "armor" is not that ready for piercing attakc's just yet.
The bad translations are annoying sometimes you can see is not right.
First time I read spoilers after a looong time, and when the actual chapter comes. . .3 pages in and I'm already thrown off-guard! A "great man" from centuries ago?? What the fuck, isn't this like the biggest thing in this chapter? Shouldn't we focus on this?
Also, I loved Fukaboshi in this chapter. Ultramarine, underwater boxing, not giving up after being fucked up twice by Kirisame. . .but, ABOVE ALL, he said everything we discussed and comented here, on this forum, about Hody's character making no sense. We called him just a twisted fuck, that him wanting to destroy FI made no sense, cause he'd be left with nothing at all after that, what are his intentions. . .We all discussed this after the chapter were he stabs Decken, and everyone thought his motives made no sense. Now it's Fukaboshi who adresses all of these concerns directly at Hody, and receives an answer. I thought some people might feel more "satisfied" now that Oda is trying to make sense outta Hody, right?
Only concern with this chapter is the incredibl weird "flashback" with the air tank guys, that page made me feel like an idiot cause I wasn't understanding a thing. Then it made sense, but still Oda could've foreshadowed it a bit more. Nothing major, though.
So, bottom line: Great chapter, Hody will get fleshed out, he isn't that much of a pussy anymore, Fukaboshi is easily one of the top 3 characters introduced post-TS, and lots of speculating time about Noah, the "Great Man" from centuries ago and Hody's past/intentions/wathever.
We noticed those things, it's just that the hints are so vague that there's not much to talk about. You can't figure anything out from what Neptune said, just that it was centuries ago. And yeah, Oda loves to do that whole "have a character say exactly what a community/person is feeling about ____" thing. It's one of my favorite techniques that he uses, and shows that he's self-aware.
The translation is horribly messy. The sentences are awkwardly constructed and don't make much sense. It's like reading early scans of One Piece. This chapter did turn up the tension, though and The mystery with Hodi is a pretty good cliffhanger.
We noticed those things, it's just that the hints are so vague that there's not much to talk about. You can't figure anything out from what Neptune said, just that it was centuries ago. And yeah, Oda loves to do that whole "have a character say exactly what a community/person is feeling about ____" thing. It's one of my favorite techniques that he uses, and shows that he's self-aware.
As Blowfish said, it could be Joy Boy? Who knows, but in the spoiler thread there was no "Great Man".
And talking about the spoilers, there it was implied that The Boshi bros., Luffy and Shirahoshi all heard Hody's story, yet the ending of the chapter makes it look like only Fukaboshi knows what's going on with him. . .
Maybe they all heard it but only Fuka knows what he's talking about? I know Shira was shown crying, but it could be because his brother was taking a beating, and Luffy's "sweating" didn't look like he just heard something "shocking".
Yeah I'm divided because according to the corrections it seems brohoshi's words are not refering to anything physical about Hody but his character, as in 'I've just realised the genuine reasons behind Hody's actions'. If it was anything'physical' Hody revealed (I'm a slave,half human etc) then Fukaboshi wouldn't really need later to dramatically shout 'I now understand his true form/character' to luffy seeing that they were all present at the time Hody revealed whatever he did and can draw these conclusions about hody themselves right?
Perhaps Hody didn't reveal anything about his origines himself but Fukaboshi might have guessed it from what he said or remembered some story about it.
But Im leaning more towards him realising from what Hody revealed that there are other reasons motivating him than his confusing 'hate hate humans & let's destroy FI coz dey too friendly' chorus. Maybe Fukaboshi realised he is acting for/endorsing the beliefs of yet another force that was known in FI's history at one point, (lol yes i know there is already arlong) but it could be much older than that,tie in Noah's history and whatever. E.g realised he belongs to an ancient fishman lineage that was very active 200 years ago with that migration attempt business. The legendary Davy Jones vs joy boy,200 years ago evil laugh
This post is confusing I know. The flashback was confusing as hell initially but good chapter all in all.
Wow, I had to reread this slowly to understand it. That's quite unique for a One Piece chapter, but actually also good as One Piece at times is TOO easy to understand. A bit thinking is not necessarily bad. There's just one thing left I'm unsure of: "The person Luffy met in the air tank a while back", is that just a Ryuugu soldier? The way the monologue is built up, it seems like an important person, but plot-wise I can only fit it with a soldier.
Great chapter, feels like its been an eternity since weve seen a fishman remove and regrow his teeth hasnt it?
I really do hope we learn more about hody's past in the next chapter, i like him quite a bit and fleshing out his character more would be excellent. But even if that doesnt happen im still content to him just being a no nonsense racist fishman
Is "True Form" an accurate translation? It makes me feel like Hodi is going to hollowfy into his tailed beast form.
I want to say based on this chapter alone brohoshi = future straw hat.
Also, there are SOOOo many unanswered questions in this chapter, i'm so confused here adn there T.T
Is "True Form" an accurate translation? It makes me feel like Hodi is going to hollowfy into his tailed beast form.
true character, identity, story, all of these are better options than true form.
Is "True Form" an accurate translation? It makes me feel like Hodi is going to hollowfy into his tailed beast form.
Nope ,True character.
I want to say based on this chapter alone brohoshi = future straw hat.
I doubt a pirate crew in one piece needs any aquaman in their ranks. At least a fishman can walk on land, this one is gonna crawl.
I doubt a pirate crew in one piece needs any aquaman in their ranks. At least a fishman can walk on land, this one is gonna crawl.
If mermaids can walk on land, why can't mermen?
I doubt a pirate crew in one piece needs any aquaman in their ranks. At least a fishman can walk on land, this one is gonna crawl.
He'll haev his bubble maker, i doubt a PRINCE actually resorts to crawling to get around. he can probably slither or soemthing iuno LOL
How did brohoshi see the "forM" or identity or w/e of hodi?? telepathicanesenesenese?
If mermaids can walk on land, why can't mermen?
Because, apparently, their tails don't split at all after age 30 unlike mermaids.
Yeah, I know it's retarded, but that's just how things are.
If mermaids can walk on land, why can't mermen?
Oda said male tails don't split, which in my opinion is kinda stupid but that is how Oda decided to do it.
Anyway there is a thread to talk about that guys.
If mermaids can walk on land, why can't mermen?
They can't, unless they reach 30, you know. ;)
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He'll haev his bubble maker, i doubt a PRINCE actually resorts to crawling to get around. he can probably slither or soemthing iuno LOL
How did brohoshi see the "forM" or identity or w/e of hodi?? telepathicanesenesenese?
I am under the impression that the bubble maker wont work outside of Fishman Island and Shabaody.
Uh, didn't we see Aladdin move on land just fine in the flashback? Or am I misremembering?
Uh, didn't we see Aladdin move on land just fine in the flashback? Or am I misremembering?
You might be correct. Totally forgot about Aladdin.
Uh, didn't we see Aladdin move on land just fine in the flashback? Or am I misremembering?
Moving is one thing. Doing other tasks like running and jumping is the real problem here.
Well, I'd guess that he was moving pretty fast here.
Well, I'd guess that he was moving pretty fast here.
Or he could just be entering a fighting stance. Kinda hard to judge anything from that panel.
I'm talking about the whole "Sun pirates dashing toward the area where Tiger is at full speed" thing… or do you think he was being carried? >_>
Cobra is aging pretty bad, compared to all the other old men we saw in OP…
I'm talking about the whole "Sun pirates dashing toward the area where Tiger is at full speed" thing… or do you think he was being carried? >_>
That's an amusing thought, actually.
But joking aside, there's still the issue of jumping. I can't see him dodging effectively in a battle with no legs unless it's underwater.
What if Hody Jones is half human and half fishman? His features are more man than fish, if you catch my drift.
What if Hody Jones is half human and half fishman? His features are more man than fish, if you catch my drift.
What features are you talking about? He is as much human-looking as Arlong.
Unless you think Arlong is also a hybrid…
True "FORM".
Dammit, Mangastream's mistranslations will stir stupid shit again.
16 char of nevermind
Ok, I said the air tank thing wasn't foreshadowed. . .and once again Oda proves that I should just shut the fuck up.
http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/639/9
As Fukaboshi says here, they took a while to get ready. . .
Best reason for Hodi to be angry at humans would be his fishman mother was raped by a human and he is half human half fish. But it would be even more shameful for him if his mother fell in love with a human. Or maybe it was him who fell in love with a human female but was rejected… but that wouldn't explain he has a "true form" !?
The true form thing is a mistranslation. It's meant to be "true character".
did anybody notice that Hodi was saying something off screen?
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Look at the center panel. Hody was about to say something there and fukaboshi look surprised afterwards. Probably has something to do with Hodi's "true form" that fukaboshi talking about.
did anybody notice that Hodi was saying something off screen?
! http://img.mangastream.com/m/5/59032007/969bc57c65d7e752abd9313c10a25f64.png
Look at the center panel. Hody was about to say something there and fukaboshi look surprised afterwards. Probably has something to do with Hodi's "true form" that fukaboshi talking about.
Captain obvious to the rescue?
Captain obvious to the rescue?
Just saying. And it's not that obvious, I doubt everybody noticed it in the first read.
If we have pirates who can't even swim, i'm sure we can have a pirate who have a little more difficulty chasing on land. + like people said, alladin makes a great example of merman on land. Also, i can't imagine one of his parents as human lol. I hope its something a little more sophisticated than that
Just saying. And it's not that obvious, I doubt everybody noticed it in the first read.
Most people certainly did. That is easily understood in those panels…
I dont no Why but i think hodys à fishman cyborg.
I'm a bit confused.
isn't it the way Oda hide talks ? :
http://www.mangareader.net/103-2620-10/one-piece/chapter-513.html
Is there any sfx or anything in the raw?
it seems to me that air is coming from Hody's mouth, backuping the half thing theory. (even if I don't like it)
So yeah, not obvious for everyone ^^
I guess this chapter will be better animated, because of all the underwater action that happened is hard to follow(well, I just woke up).
But I liked it.
Best chapter in a long time.
I'm a bit confused.
isn't it the way Oda hide talks ? :
http://www.mangareader.net/103-2620-10/one-piece/chapter-513.html
Is there any sfx or anything in the raw?it seems to me that air is coming from Hody's mouth, backuping the half thing theory. (even if I don't like it)
So yeah, not obvious for everyone ^^
Hodi is saying something. Fukaboshi in the previous page also has bubbles coming from his mouth when speaking. A bubble there would have messed up the drama. In Kuma's case Oda had to make a speech bubble so we would know something was being said to secretly to Rayleigh. Hodi's words also weren't said softly since the Princess and apparently Luffy heard. Luffy just didn't understand its significance.
did anybody notice that Hodi was saying something off screen?
! http://img.mangastream.com/m/5/59032007/969bc57c65d7e752abd9313c10a25f64.png
Look at the center panel. Hody was about to say something there and fukaboshi look surprised afterwards. Probably has something to do with Hodi's "true form" that fukaboshi talking about.
Its true CHARACTER, not form, that is why Fukaboshi said he knows his true character now, Hody probably told him his real intentions or wtv the fuck he did Xd.
Its true CHARACTER, not form, that is why Fukaboshi said he knows his true character now, Hody probably told him his real intentions or wtv the fuck he did Xd.
Because of a mistake in the translation, there'll be more posts about the "true form" (which doesn't exist), so don't waste your caps yet.