@ArmamentHero:
Anyways the chapters will probably come out late tonight or early in the morning. Anyways, I enjoyed posting what information I had for you guys. Any thoughts or feelings about Naruto being Hokage? Is it satisfying?
@ArmamentHero:
In the defense of NH, every time a moment happened between them, it was when Naruto was in a bind. Kishi put a lot of emphasis on those scenes. Yeah, you're right about most of it though. My friend literally cried when she found out NH is happening.
For the dedicated shippers lurking around this forum, I want to applaud your perseverance and hard investment in your ships. Even though 15 years of dedication didn't pay off doesn't mean you should give up. Keep on Shipping.
@valiantt:
This is pretty much what fucks up the entire ending. Having closure WITHOUT rationale behind it and having the readers magically just fill in the plot points. Pretty much overall lazy shitty writing.
-Chouji and what's her face meet up and have a kid. How did it happen? Who cares? You make up how it happened!
-Orochimaru randomly died off screen? How did it happen? WHO KNOWS?! You make it up!
-Gaara is now a cool looking dork? How did it happen? YOU MAKE IT UP DAMMIT!
-Anko is now fat? How did it happen? WHO KNOWS?!
-Naruto is now HOKAGE? Um….yeah, I want to know how Naruto is Hokage material at all....rather than his true calling which is a ramen stall salesman.
No seriously, with time skips at least you can SEE how one can jump from one spot to another like with Hinata and Naruto thing, but everything else is just...made up on the spot.
Well, then. The ending of Naruto. 14 years of reading, 700 chapters.
I kind of wished I had felt more when reading those last two chapters. :(
Anyway, I still "kind of" liked those two chapters, if I shut down my brain that is, but whenever I saw Sasuke adnd Sakura and the whole stupid "yeah, he can go now, just don't go crazy again kay, and btw I am Hokage now for like 1/10 of a chapter, just so you know" scene with this half-assed aplogy and thanks and my brain was full on screaming BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUULLLSHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTT in my mind.^^;
The symbolism was really forced, but the symbolism I liked was the handing over of the damaged Konoha headband from the first Naruto and Sasuke fight. That was the only symbolism I liked though.
I feel like a lot of stuff is missing in those two chapters but I guess Kishi deemed those points not meaningful or important so he cut them off. Or maybe he forgot about them, could be the case as well.
Chapter 700, hah,…
I think for chapter 700 I have to explain why I started to buy naruto as a kid back then. When i had read Naruto I felt bad for him to be so hated for something he had no fault for, for something all the responsibility lies with his parents, mostly his dad. But when I readed his story I sort of admired how he didn't start to hate the world and everyone in it and instead tried to gain attention, approval, respect and love by doing whatever it takes, may it be pranks, becoming a Ninja,training hard and helping and caring for others. One of such moments which i can still remember was the Neji vs Hinata fight where Naruto screamed into the fight to get Hinata out of the mindcrap Neji had pulled her in. I liked that, I like how he got empathy with people who also felt like they had no place in the world or that the place they are in currently feels wrong to them.
Back then as a kid I already realized for myself that what Naruto wanted to be was not "hokage" which is in the end nothing but a title with lots of responsibilities and having to deal with lots and lots and lots and lots of paperwork. What Naruto wanted was a family, friends, comrades. He wanted to be accepted, be a part of a team, a community. He thought he would get all that magically by becoming the "strongest" and so gaining the Hokage title.
In other words all he wanted was somebody to tell "I love you" and add the words "just the way how you are" to said three important words.
It's why for me naruto became "disconnected" somehow after the timeskip, after Sasuke's betrayal and ofc the whole war arc mess and what not. For me I felt like Naruto, the character, was stuck in a single place, not growing up nor changing much. Sure he got more powerful, but all he did was the same as he did years ago. And that made me feel sad, disappointed and sometimes even angry at him.
I get that Naruto is his "own person" with views and ideals I might not share. But in his case I couldn't understand more and more things and at some point Naruto stopped feeling "real" to me like he did at the beginning and first part of Naruto.
The friendship with sasuke was such a point.
Friendship is, in my eyes, not a "one-way ticket". If only one person thinks he is a friend to somebody else who doesn't think the same, then that is no friendship. Friendship is about caring for each other, for listening to each other, for laughing and crying with each other, and sometimes even have some fights against or with each other, but no matter what happens in the end, a friend would be at your side, grin at you and fistbump you. Because he wants to.
With Sasuke I felt, for well obvious reasons, never that much of a friendship with Naruto. And that made me sad, not because of their "break-up" but because Naruto refuded to se sasuke as anything else but a "friend", but because over the course of the manga Naruto had tons of people besides him and behind him who would have made great friends to him as they wanted to return their friendship to him. And yet, no matter what Naruto said or did, never did anything felt like he really wanted to become friends with those people like he wanted with Sasuke.
It feels weird talking about, especially when I think back to how I readed it as a kid. As a kid I always wanted Naruto to grow out of his obssession with Sasuke and his crush of Sakura, because those relationships and feelings of his never felt "real" or "true" to me, but more like substitute for what he never had before. So we it made me sad when he was going on and on about Sasuke this and Sasuke that and never created as deep a friendship with other characters who would have been great friends compared to Sasuke who lost himself in his revenge lust and most of all, who WANTED to be his friends. :(
Which gets me to the love part. Just like friendship, a one-sided love won't work out well in a relationship if the other party does not return those feelings. Love just like friendship isn't a give, give give, thing. It's a give and be given thing. Which is what I wanted for Sakura and Naruto to realize. That what they are doing, feeling and reacting upon those feelings won't be healthy to them nor will make them happy. I wanted Sakura to not onyl question her feelings but also to decide that those feelings, while inside her, are not "good" for her. Felings can be a cancer as much as a source of happiness. I wanted her to give up on sasuke and REALLY face him with everything she got to push Sasuke back n a way he would have not expected of the weak girl who he thought she was. ANd I wanted her to look for somebody who would be there for her, who would not think about himself, who would want to make her happy. Naruto COULD have been such a person but as I said, he is also someone I wanted to grow out of his feelings and realize that his feelings weren't "real" as in "More important than becoming Hokage" but something he "wanted to feel" to make himself "Normal". A normal boy would fall in love with a normal girl, right? At least that is how Naruto's crush on Sakura felt to me.
It would have been great to see Sakura bitchslap Sasuke and tell him she doesn't love him anymore which ofc won't bother Sasuke at all 'cause I can't remember anything where he could have shown that he's madly in love with her. But I wanted to see that for herself. And at the same time I wanted her to confide to Naruto, her friend who was always there for her and what not. And I wanted Naruto to see that when he thought he had what he wanted, that it did not made him happy in the way he expected it to do. It is were Hinata could have come in and where NAruto could have with time and events realized that there are things much more important for him than becoming Hokage. That he would gladly drop that title to do what he loves to do and be with who he loves to be and haveto be "the father of everybody in the village".
It's why the ending made me sad. To see Bolt doing this to the Hokage faces despite having two loving and most importantly ALIVE parents was really sad. Same with Naruto not helping his son to clean up that prank. Yeah, nice talk about how he can't be there for him all the time as he is Hokage and how he should "ninja up" because he is his son, but that doesn't help to solve the problem at all!
Bolt will still feel like his father is not there for him, will still feel "unloved" despite his father being there because his father rather wants to be Hokage for his village than being a "dad" for his son (and daugther).
Naruto was lonely because his parents died and because people feared him. Bolt is lonely despite his parents being alive and there for him and people clearly not fearing him, rather loving him despite his pranks.
Which of those two scenarios would make you more sad? :(
So about Naruto becoming Hokage, it did not made me happy at all. I would have liked it more if it had been like this:
Kakashi and Naruto are eating Ramen in a Ramen Stall/restaurant and talk about the past and present, like who married who, who died, what had happened to the world and how Kakashi's years as 6th Hokage were and that soon the 7t Hokage is to be named. And Kakashi put down his bowl and say
"Naruto, you know the reason I am here is not to just have a friendly talk, do you?"
"Yes, and you know my answer already."
Kakashi sighs and rub his hair.
"You could become Hokage in a heartbeat if you wanted to. The people adore you. You are their hero. They would be happy with you as their leader."
And Naruto laughs, spurting out his noddles out of his nose and coughing up which makes Kakashi sweatdrop as he watches a war hero with a noodle coming out of his nose trying to catch his breath. Naruto would then reply (while trying to get the noodle outta his nose):
"People think the craziest thing, Kakashi. Being a Hokage means stress, stress and stress again. You sit all day long in your office and read documents, write documents, stamp documents, worry about numbers and money and how to get all that work done in a day. Which you can't. It is a job where you grow grey hair, you see."
"If that was a hint to my hair, it was always grey." Kakahis deadpans while Naruto grins widely.
Naruto then stands up, collect the empty bowls and goes behind the abadonned counter and starts to clean the bowls with a whistle.
"So this is it?" will kakashi ask, his arms crossed before his chest. "Naruto Uzumaki, the son of the fourth Hokage, bearer of the nine-tailed beast, the most likely greatest warhero of Konoha - is stasified being a ramen cook?" (Big zoom-out of Naruto's ramen stall/restaurant being called "to the Ninetails" or soemthing weird like that XD)
Naruto continues the washing and cleaning.
"Is there something wrong with that?"
"Well, no, it is just...unexpected I guess. You always talked at every chance how you wanted to become Hokage and now when I would goffer you that title again, your answer is still 'No, I want to be the greatest Ramen cook of Konoha'?"
Naruto chuckles again and puts the bowls away to drip off the water of them.
"My dream as a kid might have been to be Hokage. But what I wanted to have was not the fancy hat, or the big position or that important title or seeing my face imbeded in stone...All I wanted were people to not hate me for who I am and I thought I would get what I wanted with becoming Hokage."
Naruto looks thoughtful while he dries his hand with a towel, Kakashi looks at him silently. Naruto then looks up to Kakashi with a small smile.
"But I already have everything I wanted, I got a job I love, friends who come by to make fun of my new creations and people who greet me back when I welcome them to my restaurant. And..." A bell rings as the door opens. "I got even much more than that."
"Dad!"
"Daddy!
"Hello, Hokage Kakashi. So that's why a "closed" sign is on the door. You should still open the restaurant soon, Naruto. It is bright daylight and the streets are full of people who want to see the new Hokage. I almost couldn't reach this door."
A smiling Hinata and two lively kids,a boy and a girl, enter from the crowded streets. The kids rush past the sitting Hokage to hug their father who returned that hug and with a grunt as if both kids were suuuuuuperheavy picks them up to carry in his arms. With his kids sitting comfortable, he walks around the counter to greet his wife with a peck on the cheek which the kids comments with "ewwww" sounds while Hinata giggles and blushes a little. Kakashi watches this whole scene with some strange sense of comfortness, aaand maybe just a bit of jealousy.
"As you see, kakashi. I already have everything to have the happiest time of my life. What need do I have for a job that would entitle to keep me away from what makes me happy?" Kakashi looks Naruto straight in the eye and sees nothing but honesty and happiness sparkling in those blue eyes, a happiness that seem to beam from the children and Hinata's faces as well. All by his side and in his arms. Behind his mask the soon to be retired Hokage smiled. The loud and nasty child who couldn't sit still to save his life and listen properly was saying such grown up things. 'Guess that's what being a father and husband does to you. It changes you more than you would expect.'
Kakashi gives a deep chuckle which Naruto counters with a confused look as he is not sure what was there to laugh about.
"You know, you might be the first Ninja who refused to become Hokage. Hah, well that means I only have one person left to ask for becoming the 7th Hokage." The boy gasps loudly and starts to shake his dad violently which makes Hinata pick up her puzzled daugther from naruto's left arm.
"You could become Hokage? Awesome! All the kids in school will drop their jaws when they hear my papa is Hokage!"
"Don't be silly. Uncle Kakashi said that papa didn't wanted to become Hokage." Explains the girl while sticking out her tonuge to her brother. WHich makes the boy shake his father even more violently.
"Why would you NOT want to be Hokage? I don't understand you!" Naruto, Hinata and Kakashi laughs at the pure shock of the boy. Naruto puts his son down and strokes through his blond hair looking just like his old man's.
"Bolt, my boy, I would pick you over the Hokage position anyday. And one day you will understand for yourself why I did so."
Bolt looks back to Kakashi, a dead serious expression on his face.
"He's crazy."
"That your dad is indeed." agrees kakashi and prepares to leave.
"Hey, Kakashi. Who is the other person you will offer this position?"
"Well, I thought about asking Shikamrau."
"Oh my. I doubt he knows about this honor yet." grins Hinata while Naruto laughs loudly as he imagine how Shikamaru will look like when he hears this offer. Kakashi grins unseen behind his black mask.
"If I had he would have found a way out of this. But he will be a good Hokage. Now that we live in an era of peace, strength and power is less needed. He will do just fine, believe me. He might be a bit surprised though when I tell him he is the next Hokage on the same day I give that title away."
Shikamaru was having a normal lunch with his wife and son as suddenly he felt as if his whole body being thrown into cold water. HE started to shiver, eyes wide of fear like a dear before a predator. Temari looks up, nonplussed by her husband's action.
"Something the matter, dear?"
"I just...I felt like somebody just put a mountain of work onto my shoulders and I got no way to say no."
The son blinked and looked back to his still calmly eating mother.
"Mom, dad is acting weeeeeeird again."
"Take notice to not become like your dad, son."
The end
Or something like that. :P