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Nintendo is the perpetual king of shovelware titles.
Discuss.
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Nintendo is the perpetual king of shovelware titles.
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Nintendo is the perpetual king of shovelware titles.
Discuss.
You mean like how there are quite a few stages in Brawl, but the majority of them are just a huge platform with a few platforms above it, meaning that visual differences and a fancy background are all that really set them apart?
Then yes, I agree with you.
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I mean that among other things.
Look! Here comes a Wii title now!!
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I mean that among other things.
Look! Here comes a Wii title now!!
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From a PS2 Shovelware title! The Irony!
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Well, I'll agree to the extent that I haven't seen a damn decent Wii title worth picking up in the last 2 or 3 months.
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Well, I'll agree to the extent that I haven't seen a damn decent Wii title worth picking up in the last 2 or 3 months.
Most of the games I want aren't even stateside yet:
OP:UC EP 1 & 2
Captain Rainbow
Tanosuko Vs Capcom
Warioware Wiiwarethat's 5 games and only one is 1st party. Any questions Wii haters?
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Well, I'll agree to the extent that I haven't seen a damn decent Wii title worth picking up in the last 2 or 3 months.
Then you need to look harder…
http://www.gamerankings.com/wii/958262-tiger-woods-pga-tour-10/index.html
http://www.gamerankings.com/wii/943385-little-kings-story/index.html
http://www.gamerankings.com/wii/954363-punch-out/index.html
http://www.gamerankings.com/wii/958390-dawn-of-discovery/index.html
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Then you need to look harder…
http://www.gamerankings.com/wii/954363-punch-out/index.html
http://www.gamerankings.com/wii/950923-wii-sports-resort/index.htmlWhoa almost forgot about Wii Sports 2 and Punch Out! Hey can you use Miis in Punch Out? I'll get it if I can use my Mike Tyson Mii fight!
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Wii Sports 2?
Wii Sports was fun for maybe 5 minutes.
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Then you need to look harder…
http://www.gamerankings.com/wii/958262-tiger-woods-pga-tour-10/index.html
http://www.gamerankings.com/wii/943385-little-kings-story/index.html
http://www.gamerankings.com/wii/954363-punch-out/index.html
http://www.gamerankings.com/wii/958390-dawn-of-discovery/index.html
http://www.gamerankings.com/wii/950923-wii-sports-resort/index.htmlEh, honestly I really don't like sports games. Although I do admit I feel guilty for not at least trying Punch Out since I know it's a classic. Also, I'm not a huge of fan of those expand-and-conquer Age-of-Empire-like games. I mean, they're fun to play, but it's like there's no end to them.
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well are you a solo player? I still play that game with my friends and family.
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well are you a solo player? I still play that game with my friends and family.
I've played it with my friends. It still couldn't keep us entertained any longer than that.
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Eh, honestly I really don't like sports games. Although I do admit I feel guilty for not at least trying Punch Out since I know it's a classic. Also, I'm not a huge of fan of those expand-and-conquer Age-of-Empire-like games. I mean, they're fun to play, but it's like there's no end to them.
Well, Punch Out isn't really a sports game, or rather not a simulation like Fight Night and stuff like that. It's hard to describe, but it's rather a strategy, puzzle-like game .
And you might rent Little Kings Story first. It's rather like a mixture of Pikmin, Harvest Moon and RPG with a lot of content - not too similiar to Age of Empires .
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I never really noticed why most wii owners also own a ps2. I owned a wii but only had that and 360 . Too many good games coming out this fall and need some money, so I'm selling my wii with a lot of games, get about 400 dollars since I'm selling A LOT of games
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What's with all the wii hate? I enjoy the Wii, why do 360 fanboys gotta rub it in that they're selling their wii? "I sold my wii for a 360 yay I'm such a manly man…" >_>
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What's with all the wii hate? I enjoy the Wii, why do 360 fanboys gotta rub it in that they're selling their wii? "I sold my wii for a 360 yay I'm such a manly man…" >_>
The wii's only fun sometimes, every time I look at it. It just reminds me that Nintendo doesn't care about "me" anymore and I get depressed.
I'd go more into it, but that'll just make me rage.:sad:
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The wii's only fun sometimes, every time I look at it. It just reminds me that Nintendo doesn't care about "me" anymore and I get depressed.
I'd go more into it, but that'll just make me rage.:sad:
How so? Wii 'hardcore' gamers had their chance with MadWorld, Red Steel, No More Heroes and Super Smash Bros Brawl! Not only that but freaking Super Mario Bros Wii is coming out! What more do people want? A madden Halo '09 FPS?! Look if you sell your wii okay tell someone who cares or on a 360 topic! If you have something against the wii go somewhere else like gamefaqs. Sorry but Ive been a loyal nintendo fan since the n64, I don't feel like nintendo hasn't forgoten Mii(yes I said it!)
rant over.
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I've been a loyal fan since the SNES days (although I first played an NES, I believe the NES was out a while before I was born.), and that's why I'm disappointed with the Wii.
Even the GCN had fantastic titles, and some of the best sequels. (Super Smash Bros. Melee and Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door.) The majority of the Wii's sequels are mediocre at best.
The only really truly great game on the Wii is Super Mario Galaxy, and that's a single player game that gets boring after you beat it.
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I've been a loyal fan since the SNES days (although I first played an NES, I believe the NES was out a while before I was born.), and that's why I'm disappointed with the Wii.
Even the GCN had fantastic titles, and some of the best sequels. (Super Smash Bros. Melee and Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door.) The majority of the Wii's sequels are mediocre at best.
The only really truly great game on the Wii is Super Mario Galaxy, and that's a single player game that gets boring after you beat it.
You're not really explaining why you're disappointed in the Wii. I played Galaxy and it's fun believe me I had a blast with that game not as much as SM64 but it was still fun and you shouldn't be disappointed have you even played sone of the wii games I mentioned? Even at E3 they announced a sequel to SMG! SM64 nor Sunshine had a sequel that continued on from it! It's nintendo listening to what the loyalists want! They even putting fucking Yoshi in the game for crying out loud! I'm happy with what's to come this year and next especially Metroid!
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I've been a loyal fan since the SNES days (although I first played an NES, I believe the NES was out a while before I was born.), and that's why I'm disappointed with the Wii.
Even the GCN had fantastic titles, and some of the best sequels. (Super Smash Bros. Melee and Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door.) The majority of the Wii's sequels are mediocre at best.
The only really truly great game on the Wii is Super Mario Galaxy, and that's a single player game that gets boring after you beat it.
You didn't like the Smash bros and Paper Mario games on the Wii?
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I am disappointed in the Wii because the games that I loved on the GCN got unsatisfactory sequels. Especially Animal Crossing. I've already ranted about that here, but City Folk is the most pathetic excuse for a "sequel" that I've ever seen. They basically threw together a Wild World port, downgraded it a little bit, added a gimmicky city, gave it a new name, and charged $50 for it.
I did not find Super Smash Bros. Brawl to be all of that great either. I may have overhyped it a little bit, but I still think that it is genuinely a disappointment. I could explain why, but I think it's obvious… and I've said it enough times. lol
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Was it because some of your mains were cut from the game or the Subspace Emissary you gotta remember not everyone goes through every post to find out why….
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Was it because some of your mains were cut from the game or the Subspace Emissary you gotta remember not everyone goes through every post to find out why….
Yes, but I've posted it so many times over the past year and a half that I'm sick of it. lol.
If you want a short version:
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The character roster is "meh." at best. With all of the development time that the game had, it's inexcusable. It's ridiculous that a certain Zelda villain still does not have their own moveset. And some of the choices were just bad. Oh, and R.O.B. was a horrible "WTF?" character choice. Mario Kart DS already used him as a "WTF?" character. What in the world was Sakurai thinking?
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(I actually mentioned this in here earlier today.) The stage roster consists of a few unique stages, but the majority of them seem to be nothing more than a single platform with a few or so tiny platforms above them. The only difference is a fancy background.
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The SSE wasn't too impressive, and it's sad, but it's obvious that the rest of the game suffered from too much focus on the SSE. Even the single player mode suffered massively from the SSE. The "Classic Mode" is more watered down and repetitive than ever. So much that's it was a chore to play through it even once the first day I got the game.
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My copy of MadWorld is gonna shank er'rr one of y'all talkin' shit about the Wii's lineup. Then The Conduit will shoot you in the face. With pinpoint accuracy, because you don't have to aim with two sticks like Tonka truck controls.
Also, the fuck is up with that strip poker game on Wii Ware?! Where the hell did that come from?!
And if you don't see why they included ROB in Brawl…. Well, I am speechless... In a game revolving around Nintendo's history that included Mr. Game-and-Watch, if you don't understand why they'd include ROB...
...I have no words...
As for the stages in Brawl, I don't have the time to go into that, but Norfair, Luigi's Mansion, Delfino Plaza, Electroplankton, 75m, Pokemon Stadium 2, Halberd, etc. are all laughing at you right now.
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Originally Posted by Buccaneer
Celine Dion post in the MK thread. I wish I could neg you.
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Yes, but I've posted it so many times over the past year and a half that I'm sick of it. lol.
If you want a short version:
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The character roster is "meh." at best. With all of the development time that the game had, it's inexcusable. It's ridiculous that a certain Zelda villain still does not have their own moveset. And some of the choices were just bad. Oh, and R.O.B. was a horrible "WTF?" character choice. Mario Kart DS already used him as a "WTF?" character. What in the world was Sakurai thinking?
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(I actually mentioned this in here earlier today.) The stage roster consists of a few unique stages, but the majority of them seem to be nothing more than a single platform with a few or so tiny platforms above them. The only difference is a fancy background.
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The SSE wasn't too impressive, and it's sad, but it's obvious that the rest of the game suffered from too much focus on the SSE. Even the single player mode suffered massively from the SSE. The "Classic Mode" is more watered down and repetitive than ever. So much that's it was a chore to play through it even once the first day I got the game.
Wow that's one in a million. I actually loved Brawl, not only that but a lot of people loved it, the famitsu reviews prove it even the sales prove it, look not everyone is gonna be happy with the decisions made by Sakurai but what satify one customer to lose 100 others? Possibly more? My friend can kick ass with ROB and I actually finished Tabuu with just him….ON HARD MODE. What's more is that some people are already used to Gannon in Melee why change the moveset? At least his Final smash was different. If you want to complain about something complain about the 3 freakin' landmasters and why Nintendo didn't add Ryu or anyother 3rd party character! XD And if you want to enjoy your brawlin' even further get HBC and Gecko and you can use custom texture hacks to play for even more fun you can also customize your stages even more with a program that destroys the limitations on the Stage builder! Hacking and Brawling are fun.
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a lot of people loved it, the famitsu reviews prove it even the sales prove it
I hope you realize that none of that means anything. A first party Nintendo magazine giving a new sequel of a very highly esteemed series a high rating? OMG! Who would have guessed?
Also, in this case, sales mean little. It would mean more for a first time game, but Brawl is a sequel. A lot of people bought it just because they loved Melee…. and Melee sold a lot.
I'm aware that some of my expectations for Brawl may have been too high, but there are some things that I just can not understand.
Still I've tried to stop complaining about Brawl, because really Animal Crossing City Folk makes Brawl look like it's the best sequel to it's predecessor ever.
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I hope you realize that none of that means anything. A first party Nintendo magazine giving a new sequel of a very highly esteemed series a high rating? OMG! Who would have guessed?
Also, in this case, sales mean little. It would mean more for a first time game, but Brawl is a sequel. A lot of people bought it just because they loved Melee…. and Melee sold a lot.
Actually it does Famu only gave 15 games a perfect score of 40 Only Zelda had two games with a score of 40. And Melee nor the original got a perfect 40 so yeah it's pretty much a big deal.
Brawl was the fastest selling game in NoA's history beating SMB 3 in record fast sales. A Wii fighting game selling more than a classic. Big deal? You tell me.
Like i said Nintendo isn't going to satify just you they gotta think big and they were right. You're not happy cause they couldn't get good stages for you and change Ganon's moveset. Just look I'm only discussing this with you and three maybe even more members of this forum enjoyed the game. You seem to be the only one stumped.
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Actually it does Famu only gave 15 games a perfect score of 40 Only Zelda had two games with a score of 40. And Melee nor the original got a perfect 40 so yeah it's pretty much a big deal.
I'm sorry but I still don't think it deserves a perfect score.
Brawl was the fastest selling game in NoA's history beating SMB 3 in record fast sales. A Wii fighting game selling more than a classic. Big deal? You tell me.
With the amount of hype surrounding Super Smash Bros. Brawl, it's still not that surprising.
Like i said Nintendo isn't going to satify just you they gotta think big and they were right. You're not happy cause they couldn't get good stages for you and change Ganon's moveset. Just look I'm only discussing this with you and three maybe even more members of this forum enjoyed the game. You seem to be the only one stumped.
You think I was the only one?
That's one funny joke you've got there. I wanted Ganondorf to have his own moveset because I wanted Sakurai to be more creative, and trust me a whole bunch of other people thought the same way.
And wanting more quality and creative stages? lol. Again there were quite a few stages that were good, but too many of them were as I said. And that's a problem to me personally. And I know of quite a few others that have agreed with me.
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I'm sorry I'm not trying to force you to change your opinion but I'm showing you that the facts outweigh your personal opinion. I don't think it's perfect but it's almost to that level and most of The public seems to favor the game. You're just the 10% of people that were disatified with the game….
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I'll tell you why Brawl is bad.
Tripping: This is stupid. It's retarded, there's no excuse for this, I don't know who thought this was a good idea but what the hell?
Balance: When they developed this game they never even put this into consideration and it shows.
Captain Falcon got his MAJOR moves weakened for no reason, and they lowered his priority.
Lowering a hand to hand only fighter's priority in Smash Bros is a huge mistake.Metaknight his lag is doesn't compensate for his speed at all.
The tornado is just ridiculous, to make matters worse he has a disjointed hit box and wide sword swings that make him almost unbearable to fight against.
Snake… He's just to freaking powerful. Period.
Mario... They ruined him by weakening his spike (His best move), and giving him fludd.
Ice Climbers.. They still have their grab infinite.
Smash Balls: Okay, this idea may have sounded great on paper but they're so powerful and unbalanced that it's impossible to have a "fair" game when fighting with them.
If they wanted to add a super system that's fine, no one would've been mad if they added a super bar.
The Fan item: It's pretty much inescapable. In the right situation.
Grabbing system: They literally changed the grab priority to which player is which. I'm not kidding.
P2 beats P1 and etc. WTF?
Online play: Okay... there's no excuse for this. Nintendo makes more money out of all the systems... and this is what we get?
Virtual Console demos and SSE: They really wasted character space for this?
If they took the the time to actually balance the gameplay instead of just change random attack physics to say "HURR DURR NOW IT'S DIFFERENT", implemented a BALANCED super system that isn't based on chance, not wasted roster memory on stupid crap, and had WORKING ONLINE PLAY then brawl would've been potentially awesome. But since they didn't....
This is why Brawl sucks.
This is why I'm waiting for TMNT Smash up and Tatsunako vs. Capcom.
I shouldn't have to, it's a first party game, if anyone should get it right it's them.
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I'm sorry I'm not trying to force you to change your opinion but I'm showing you that the facts outweigh your personal opinion. I don't think it's perfect but it's almost to that level and most of The public seems to favor the game. You're just the 10% of people that were disatified with the game….
The "facts" as in sales and a possibly very biased review?
Sorry, but I don't buy that. I'm not saying that Brawl is a bad game, and I think that's it alright for a sequel, but as I said there were so many things that could have been done better.
And I seriously doubt that it's just "10%" who are disappointed in this game. If so… wow...
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I'll tell you why Brawl is bad.
Tripping: This is stupid. It's retarded, there's no excuse for this, I don't know who thought this was a good idea but what the hell?
Balance: When they developed this game they never even put this into consideration and it shows.
Captain Falcon got his MAJOR moves weakened for no reason, and they lowered his priority.
Lowering a hand to hand only fighter's priority in Smash Bros is a huge mistake.Metaknight his lag is doesn't compensate for his speed at all.
The tornado is just ridiculous, to make matters worse he has a disjointed hit box and wide sword swings that make him almost unbearable to fight against.
Snake… He's just to freaking powerful. Period.
Mario... They ruined him by weakening his spike (His best move), and giving him fludd.
Ice Climbers.. They still have their grab infinite.
Smash Balls: Okay, this idea may have sounded great on paper but they're so powerful and unbalanced that it's impossible to have a "fair" game when fighting with them.
If they wanted to add a super system that's fine, no one would've been mad if they added a super bar.
The Fan item: It's pretty much inescapable. In the right situation.
Grabbing system: They literally changed the grab priority to which player is which. I'm not kidding.
P2 beats P1 and etc. WTF?
Online play: Okay... there's no excuse for this. Nintendo makes more money out of all the systems... and this is what we get?
Virtual Console demos and SSE: They really wasted character space for this?
If they took the the time to actually balance the gameplay instead of just change random attack physics to say "HURR DURR NOW IT'S DIFFERENT", implemented a BALANCED super system that isn't based on chance, not wasted roster memory on stupid crap, and had WORKING ONLINE PLAY then brawl would've been potentially awesome. But since they didn't....
This is why Brawl sucks.
This is why I'm waiting for TMNT Smash up and Tatsunako vs. Capcom.
I shouldn't have to, it's a first party game, if anyone should get it right it's them.
The only one I agree about is the VC Demos…
What a complete waste of space... And they're TIMED demos... That's the worst... You can't even finish a race in F-Zero...
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Envy and Pyromonki just seem to be pissed that Brawl wasn't their idea of what it should be.
And Ganon will never have his own moveset because many, many players have already learned to use him as he is (
). A radical change would screw all of those players over, no matter how much you want to see some fancy animations from Twilight Princess. He got several tweaked A attacks, the Flame Choke, and many unique combos. He's fine.And Meta Knight is hardly an issue. Especially if you main heavyweights. Ganondorf alone out-prioritizes his so-called ridiculous tornado with half his ground moves. As for Falcon, his priority is fine; due to the nature of his attacks, priority often isn't his, well, priority anyway. He's meant to either strike first, or second. Plus, his Falcon Punch got beefed, and sped up to make it practical to use 1-on-1, so I don't see why you're complaining.
And for the record, most of the stages are different. Just because all your friends may want to play on the flat levels doesn't change the stage variety.
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Originally Posted by Buccaneer
Celine Dion post in the MK thread. I wish I could neg you.
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My copy of MadWorld is gonna shank er'rr one of y'all talkin' shit about the Wii's lineup. Then The Conduit will shoot you in the face. With pinpoint accuracy, because you don't have to aim with two sticks like Tonka truck controls.
Also, the fuck is up with that strip poker game on Wii Ware?! Where the hell did that come from?!
And if you don't see why they included ROB in Brawl…. Well, I am speechless... In a game revolving around Nintendo's history that included Mr. Game-and-Watch, if you don't understand why they'd include ROB...
...I have no words...
As for the stages in Brawl, I don't have the time to go into that, but Norfair, Luigi's Mansion, Delfino Plaza, Electroplankton, 75m, Pokemon Stadium 2, Halberd, etc. are all laughing at you right now.
I like how every Wii owner uses this argument. Look, there's absolutely no accuracy with the wii-mote, and you play fps easier with dual analog since you don't have to raise your arm and shit. The Conduit was horrible, to say the least. I bought Madworld, was fun till you beat it, it's repetitive and only the music makes it worthwhile, I should have rented it.
Brawl was fun while it lasted, but it got boring soon, and I started playing Melee more. Galaxy? Short, easy. Let's face it, the Wii is not Nintendo's greatest console, I'm more fond of the N64 and GC.
What's with all the wii hate? I enjoy the Wii, why do 360 fanboys gotta rub it in that they're selling their wii? "I sold my wii for a 360 yay I'm such a manly man…" >_>
Call me what you want, I'm not rubbing it in. I don't think I'm a "manly man", you a I'm simply stating that the 360 has kept me more entertained than the Wii, I was actually a sheep before, praising nintendo and thought MS was greedy and the typical sheep bullshit, until I realized, "Wow, Nintendo's starting to suck, and are just trying to make easy money" I might be a lemming now (360 fanboy) but I still enjoy Nintendo games, just no more Wii.
Either way, I'm the minority here so I should shut the hell up since I'm in a wii discussion thread
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This is why I'm waiting for TMNT Smash up and Tatsunako vs. Capcom.
Umm what does TvC have to do with this?
What's wrong Conduit BTW? I hear it's a good game (prob. one of the best FPS), I'm just waiting for a price drop before getting.
Overall I've played and enjoyed the following games thus far-
Punch Out
Mario Galaxy (for the most part
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Mario Strikers Charged
Mario Kart Wii
Super Paper Mario
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Umm what does TvC have to do with this?
What's wrong Conduit BTW? I hear it's a good game (prob. one of the best FPS), I'm just waiting for a price drop before getting.
Overall I've played and enjoyed the following games thus far-
Punch Out
Mario Galaxy (for the most part )
Mario Strikers Charged
Mario Kart Wii
Super Paper MarioNowhere near best FPS, neither are 360 or ps3 fps, most people consider PC shooters the best. I keep hearing it's pretty bad, even from Wii fanboys. Examples of good fps are, call of duty, killzone, timesplitters, counter-strike, far cry, rainbow six vegas, cryisis, halo, perfect dark, doom, etc.
I enjoyed those games as well but notice how they all have the name Mario in the titles
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Actually it does Famu only gave 15 games a perfect score of 40 Only Zelda had two games with a score of 40. And Melee nor the original got a perfect 40 so yeah it's pretty much a big deal.
No it isn't. Famitsu is one of the least credible magizines for reviews. The gave fucking Nintendogs a perfect score as well, and that game had as much replay value as a can of soda.
Brawl was the fastest selling game in NoA's history beating SMB 3 in record fast sales. A Wii fighting game selling more than a classic. Big deal? You tell me.
Nope. For one it hasn't beat SMB3 in overall sales. For two Wii is the fastest selling console and with its bland lineup of shovelware Brawl's march release set it up for that easily. (It's only competition then was MGS4 and I think it got delayed anyway) And lastly the game pretty much sells itself. I mean if you can't push sales from a game with generations of iconic characters and the rewhoring of "MARIO VS SONIC!!!!" then you're pretty shitty company. Melee pushed GCN sales late in the system's lifecycle. Same with the orignal SSB. With a massive Wii userbase, Brawl selling so fast shouldn't be a far cry to anyone's imagination.
Like i said Nintendo isn't going to satify just you they gotta think big and they were right.
They thought big money. And they were right. Doesn't stop Wii from being the biggest paperweight since the PSP.
You're not happy cause they couldn't get good stages for you and change Ganon's moveset. Just look I'm only discussing this with you and three maybe even more members of this forum enjoyed the game. You seem to be the only one stumped
Plenty of people enjoyed it. But it's a dissapointment nonetheless. Most of the games biggest supporters, especially those who supported all the silly changes Sakurai made stoped playing probably a year ago.
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And Meta Knight is hardly an issue.
AHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Ganondorf alone out-prioritizes his so-called ridiculous tornado with half his ground moves.
How many of those are practical to hit ANY mobile character nonetheless MetaKnight?
As for Falcon, his priority is fine; due to the nature of his attacks, priority often isn't his, well, priority anyway. He's meant to either strike first, or second. Plus, his Falcon Punch got beefed, and sped up to make it practical to use 1-on-1, so I don't see why you're complaining.
Priority is important for any character especially since CF got his speed nerfed to hell. And as sped up as the great Falcon Punch is, it still can be seen a mile a way and hard to combo into…. just live everything else in this game.
No matter what the small perks of using him is, the coolest character is the worst one in Brawl. One of the victims of the game's horrible balance.
They basically threw together a Wild World port, downgraded it a little bit, added a gimmicky city, gave it a new name, and charged $50 for it.
BUT IT GOT VOICE CHAT! You can't get advanced technology like that on a Xbox!
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I don't see Brawl, by itself, as imbalanced at all…
The only way it's unbalanced is if the players MAKE it unbalanced...
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BUT IT GOT VOICE CHAT! You can't get advanced technology like that on a Xbox!
But it didn't come free with the game.
The Wii Speak is nice, but I don't like how it was used to make Animal Crossing: City Folk look like it was actually worth buying.
Envy and Pyromonki just seem to be pissed that Brawl wasn't their idea of what it should be.
No I'm pissed because there were a few genuine disappointments.
And Ganon will never have his own moveset because many, many players have already learned to use him as he is (
). A radical change would screw all of those players over, no matter how much you want to see some fancy animations from Twilight Princess.Yet removing a character with a unique moveset called Mewtwo somehow didn't screw players over?
And for the record, most of the stages are different. Just because all your friends may want to play on the flat levels doesn't change the stage variety.
My friends and I both got bored of the game a long time ago. It has nothing to do with the frequency of how much I played those stages, it has to do with how many there really are.
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I don't see Brawl, by itself, as imbalanced at all…
The only way it's unbalanced is if the players MAKE it unbalanced...
Ah ok.
I just gotta remember to tell whoever I play to not make Meta Knight's tornado have so much priority, have less recovery, make his downsmash not come out so fast, lower the knockback on Shuttle Loop ect, ect.
He's gonna be programming for a while.
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Well, we all know that the 360 is and will always be superior in First Person Shooters and West RPGs and … that's it.
The Wii has the best library of high quality Action Adventures ( Zelda [ New Zelda at next years E3], Metroid Prime 3, Okami, Final Fantasy Crystal Bearers, Metroid: Other M, etc. ) and Platformers ( Soon 3 Mario Platformers, Klonoa, Wario Land, Muramasa, etc. ).
And within the next year the Wii will be at least as good as PS360 in Japan-RPGs ( Monster Hunter 3, Tales of Graces, Rune Factory, Dragon Quest 10, Fire Emblem etc. ), Horror games ( Resident Evil 4 which was still somehow creepy sometimes unlike RE5, and Silent Hill Shattered Memories, Fatal Frame 4, Cursed Mountain, etc. ) and Action Games ( No More Heroes 1/2, Sin and Punishment 2, Red Steel 2, Madworld, etc. ).If you're mainly looking for games developed by western studios ( especially First Person Shooters ), yes you're better off with a 360, but don't call the excellent Wii line-up bad, just because it isn't your taste.
By the way, Nintendo themselves brought out more 'hardcore' games and more of their classic franchises in this 2 and a half years of the Wii, than in the first 2 and a half years of N64 and Gamecube. So the argument that they only care about casual things just… is NOT true, just because they only make adverts for the casual stuff.
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Keikaku doori:devil:
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The Wii has the best library of high quality Action Adventures ( Zelda [ New Zelda at next years E3], Metroid Prime 3, Okami, Final Fantasy Crystal Bearers, Metroid: Other M, etc. ) and Platformers ( Soon 3 Mario Platformers, Klonoa, Wario Land, Muramasa, etc. ).
Why in the world are you using some games that aren't even out yet? Especially Zelda Wii. We have no idea what exactly that is going to be like. I mean it probably will be good, but we can't even be sure of that.
If you're mainly looking for games developed by western studios ( especially First Person Shooters ), yes you're better off with a 360, but don't call the excellent Wii line-up bad, just because it isn't your taste.
I personally have no interest in the first person shooters on the 360. I don't even own a 360 for that matter.
By the way, Nintendo themselves brought out more 'hardcore' games and more of their classic franchises in this 2 and a half years of the Wii, than in the first 2 and a half years of N64 and Gamecube. So the argument that they only care about casual things just… is NOT true, just because they only make adverts for the casual stuff.
The problem is that a lot of people feel that these "hardcore" games have become a lot more casual than they used to be. Look at Mario Kart Wii, you get punished by items more for being in first place than you ever have in the past games.
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I'll tell you why Brawl is bad.
Tripping: This is stupid. It's retarded, there's no excuse for this, I don't know who thought this was a good idea but what the hell?
Ya it is stupid
Balance: When they developed this game they never even put this into consideration and it shows.
Captain Falcon got his MAJOR moves weakened for no reason, and they lowered his priority.
Lowering a hand to hand only fighter's priority in Smash Bros is a huge mistake.Metaknight his lag is doesn't compensate for his speed at all.
The tornado is just ridiculous, to make matters worse he has a disjointed hit box and wide sword swings that make him almost unbearable to fight against.
Snake… He's just to freaking powerful. Period.
Mario... They ruined him by weakening his spike (His best move), and giving him fludd.
Ice Climbers.. They still have their grab infinite.
Ok, characters get nerfed and buffed all the time.
Melee did this too. I remember playing melee for the first time and being pissed because they made Pikachu worse. But doesn't make it a terrible game. And don't pretend that melee was this perfectly balanced game either, which is far from the truth.Smash Balls: Okay, this idea may have sounded great on paper but they're so powerful and unbalanced that it's impossible to have a "fair" game when fighting with them.
If they wanted to add a super system that's fine, no one would've been mad if they added a super bar.
The Fan item: It's pretty much inescapable. In the right situation.
You can turn items off. You can literally pick which specific item you want turned off.
Grabbing system: They literally changed the grab priority to which player is which. I'm not kidding.
P2 beats P1 and etc. WTF?
If this is true then yes, thats really stupid
Online play: Okay… there's no excuse for this. Nintendo makes more money out of all the systems... and this is what we get?
Online play was the only major complaint I have about this game. I tried playing my cousin once who lives maybe 5 km from me and it lagged. I got into some random online games during the first few months and then it stopped working. I agree with you, online play really sucked. However, the stages and videos they would send everyday was a very nice feature.
Virtual Console demos and SSE: They really wasted character space for this?
They had a dual layered disk! Its not like they were intentionally leaving out stuff so they could put the virtual console demos in. And how many new characters do you want anyway? They added like 16 new characters.
And SSE was fun for me, especially because I could play co-op with my brother. Seriously all games should be co-op. The SSE was a nice distraction from the rest of the game and the boss battles were really fun.
I hated the last 20% of it when you had to go through those dark worlds though.If they took the the time to actually balance the gameplay instead of just change random attack physics to say "HURR DURR NOW IT'S DIFFERENT", implemented a BALANCED super system that isn't based on chance, not wasted roster memory on stupid crap, and had WORKING ONLINE PLAY then brawl would've been potentially awesome. But since they didn't….
This is why Brawl sucks.
So it sucks because its not perfect?
