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1. I don't see why mafia can't have limited number of shots as well.
2.How the hell is my vote any less of a pressure vote as Mettes
3.i already said there are other possibilities to the bullet stealing then just bullets being limited.
One Piece Mafia
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Okay Chuckles. Could you please tell me what it was that vor did that made him suspicious? I am very willing to change my vote but only when I actually know what the deal is.
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But you also answered Huschel's question to Shuhan. NEVER answer a question directed at another player. It's very scummy and even if a townie does it, it interferes with the scumhunt.
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That is the gist of it yes Kitsune… I wasn't expecting so many people to jump, but the one I wanted to did so I'm happy.
so Vor, if you didn't want the mafia to be interested in your questions to Nectar, why even bring it up?
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I am not sure what is happening… but I feel it is something interesting :P
Just tell me who to vote for to end this mkay?
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I am not sure what is happening… but I feel it is something interesting :P
Just tell me who to vote for to end this mkay?
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@Shuhan1288:
That is the gist of it yes Kitsune… I wasn't expecting so many people to jump, but the one I wanted to did so I'm happy.
so Vor, if you didn't want the mafia to be interested in your questions to Nectar, why even bring it up?
Back then the question wouldn't be important to them now it would be.
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Interestingly enough, there's one thing I'm about 90% certain of, and that's that we have a clear. Unless that person's lying through their teeth and breeding paranoia, but I'm a bit doubtful of that.
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Also, kmo-bear-chwan, that post was way too stupid to be mafia. >_> Unless this is a gambit. But you just shot up on my suspect list...
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**Unvote lynch
Vote Lynch: kmohyudin** Unless you're joking, that post was also way too stupid to be a townie post. >_>
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That doesn't seem right. I myself am still waiting for the explanation before I vote for anyone else.What more explaination do you need? I have been gunning for Vorlianis since his fishing for characters. He has been on my list since then.
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I am not sure what is happening… but I feel it is something interesting :P
Just tell me who to vote for to end this mkay?
do we have another Maya incident on our hands? lol
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I want someone to plainly tell what it was that made vorlianis suspicious regarding your bullet comment. There is obviously something there because you and Chuckles seem convinced of him being scum all of a sudden (I know you were suspicious before) but I just don't see it. Or maybe I do but confirmation would be nice.
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Yeah… until kmo answers, he's got my pressure vote.
That doesn't cross vor off my list though and if kmo's answer is satisfactory, I'm aiming my rifle back at vor. ;)
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Really sorry guys, my mind is a bit mushy right now. But I did mean what I said, I really have no idea what is going on and am waiting for whatever is happening here to resolve itself so that I can finally vote for whoever the town decides is most likely scum.
In other words, I am knowingly sheeping :/
For those of you who care to know whats up, and for those of you who like me :) little off-topic stuff inside.
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@Shuhan1288:
Did you really read what I had to say Holy, your treading very close to being a bandwagoner my friend…
@Shuhan1288:
Did you really read what I had to say Holy, your treading very close to being a bandwagoner my friend…
Yeah I did. It didnt convince ne, and sounded mire like you were trying to throw attention on someone else rather then explain why you said what you said. Kitsune doesn't count because he'll vote for anything with the flip of a hat. You want me to consider unvoting you? Then explain yourself in terms of the points that Huschel, vor, and mette brought up a few pages ago that put you under suspicion.
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@ Huschel: He took Shuhan's bait and answered questions for him. I'm not fully trusting Shuhan either, but vor pretty much walked right into it. That doesn't mean he's mafia, granted, but I'm not about to drop it off to the wayside either.
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Kitsune doesn't count because he'll vote for anything with the flip of a hat.
Filler posts and clearly haven't noticed that I've been playing seriously over the past few pages. You're obviously not reading anybody's posts and jumping on every single bandwagon. Whose side are you REALLY on, Holy?
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I have been wondering if there was a possibility that Mafia didn't have bullets from the beginning and had to steal those to kill (Since Huschel claimed that his/hers were stolen last night).
Maybe that would be too much of a nerf for Mafia though but maybe if they get enough they can achieve multiple kill at night.
In that case of course, any kind of claim would be extremely dangerous for the town.Now, I'll reread the last pages, take notes and see if I can find other suspects~
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Yeah I did. It didnt convince ne, and sounded mire like you were trying to throw attention on someone else rather then explain why you said what you said. Kitsune doesn't count because he'll vote for anything with the flip of a hat. You want me to consider unvoting you? Then explain yourself in terms of the points that Huschel, vor, and mette brought up a few pages ago that put you under suspicion.
Hmmm, I believe I already explained myself concerning that. All you have to do is actually read what I post. Right now your vote means nothing to me, bandwagoner…
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So it's not what vor said but the fact that he answered at all? Hardly condemning evidence but I didn't like his reaction to the accusation. So I'll just Shuhan for now.
Unvote. Vote Lynch: vorlianis If he turns out to be town, I know where to look…
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So I'll just Shuhan for now.
I'll just trust Shuhan for now.
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Nothing really damning on kmo considering the circumstances.
Unvote Lynch Now was I? Oh, yes.
Vote Lynch: vorlianis
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Now where was I?***
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So it's not what vor said but the fact that he answered at all? Hardly condemning evidence but I didn't like his reaction to the accusation. So I'll just Shuhan for now.
Unvote. Vote Lynch: vorlianis If he turns out to be town, I know where to look…
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I'll just trust Shuhan for now.
You'll just Shuhan for now made sense too… I mean, I read it as you will be copying Shuhan... like really BECOME him... sounded cleaver, using Shuhan as a verb like that... I am sad you corrected it :(
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If he turns out to be town, I know where to look…
Meh, scrap that. Keep scum hunting, people.
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You'll just Shuhan for now made sense too… I mean, I read it as you will be copying Shuhan... like really BECOME him... sounded cleaver, using Shuhan as a verb like that... I am sad you corrected it :(
I know. It was so Buffy . If that means anything to anyone.
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I know. It was so Buffy . If that means anything to anyone.
You are my hero. I just want to Huschel you now.
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That made me Chucklepants Fallupface…wait wut?
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@Chucklepants:
Elisabeth has been fairly quiet and not really scumhunting. She played a fantastic game in Mafia VI, yet she dances in obscurity now. Why is that, my dear?
I said from the beginning I wouldn't have as much time as I wanted for this game sighs
Furthermore, I do not dance in obscurity. I'm trying to see or at least feel things and for now, all I feel is that you, are suspicious to me.
Some of your actions tend to make me think you are Town but my guts tell me otherwise.Anyway~
A townie having a gun is a vig….....
Nice. I hope I'm right following you Shuhan~
Vote Lynch: VorlianisAlthough, Huschel, you seem to give your vote/trust a bit too easily in my opinion… HOW COME ? °0°
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@Chucklepants:
You are my hero. I just want to Huschel you now.
Well that's nice to hear. Don't overdo the huscheling, though.
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@Elisabeth:
I said from the beginning I wouldn't have as much time as I wanted for this game sighs
Furthermore, I do not dance in obscurity. I'm trying to see or at least feel things and for now, all I feel is that you, are suspicious to me.
Some of your actions tend to make me think you are Town but my guts tell me otherwise.Okay, forgive me, I have a horrid memory. I'm just not one to leave stones unturned. And the fact that you suspect me means I've made progress. ^_^
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@Elisabeth:
I said from the beginning I wouldn't have as much time as I wanted for this game sighs
Furthermore, I do not dance in obscurity. I'm trying to see or at least feel things and for now, all I feel is that you, are suspicious to me.
Some of your actions tend to make me think you are Town but my guts tell me otherwise.Anyway~
Nice. I hope I'm right following you Shuhan~
Vote Lynch: VorlianisAlthough, Huschel, you seem to give your vote/trust a bit too easily in my opinion… HOW COME ? °0°
It's what I do ;)
The first game I played I was dead set on not hammering Mrs. Iceburg who of course turned out to be mafia. Just the naive little me. But I'll just stay that way a little bit longer. Let's see how it works out this game. -
Kina. I get that nobody likes to read my posts, but the problem with doing that is that you contradict me completely. I gave the information that led to my vote. The fact that no one has read it nor commented on it, is another beast entirely. Regardless of how much I apparently like hearing myself speak, I explained what I had going. I got my information from the moderator and it contradicted what he said. Thus, there must be a lie. Whether its accidental or intentional, people who try to get away with lying are obviously mafia. Our exchange didn't solidify my suspicion, so I didn't continue to push his wagon.
On an unrelated note, defining one's power by a single title only works if you have one ability. I understand that you're not voting solely on that, but I would also define a vigilante in that manner. Any other skills that are involved with such an example would be a modified Vigilante, as opposed to creating a specific title. You know, unless that title actually exists in popular discussion. Like J.B.W.E.J.A.
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Only about 9 hours until the day ends. Do something people.
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Going to sleep, therefore…
Vote Lynch Shuhan.
Yeah your explanation really didn't cut it for me. I think mistaking the definition for "Vig" is a somewhat less of a scumtell then claiming your earlier contradictory posts (as pointed out by mette, well done!) were "Bait". And I maybe missing out stuff here, but I really don't understand how that was bait in the first place… like you saying "Gun, no gun, bullets limited?" would lead vor to post that? And this was according to your plan? Again, perhaps it IS because I am not really sure what happened there but it just didn't made sense to me. So, sorry bro, had to be done :/
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Going to sleep, therefore…
Vote Lynch Shuhan.
Yeah your explanation really didn't cut it for me. I think mistaking the definition for "Vig" is a somewhat less of a scumtell then claiming your earlier contradictory posts (as pointed out by mette, well done!) were "Bait". And I maybe missing out stuff here, but I really don't understand how that was bait in the first place… like you saying "Gun, no gun, bullets limited?" would lead vor to post that? And this was according to your plan? Again, perhaps it IS because I am not really sure what happened there but it just didn't made sense to me. So, sorry bro, had to be done :/
I'm also sticking with my vote. Nowhere does shun explain himself, and he's still avoiding the questions asked to him.
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Off topic: Just saw Scream 4. Really good!
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Also, in case anyone missed this before, I'm flying to nebraska tomorrow, so my posts may be sporadic.
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I'm also sticking with my vote. Nowhere does shun explain himself, and he's still avoiding the questions asked to him.
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Off topic: Just saw Scream 4. Really good!
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Also, in case anyone missed this before, I'm flying to nebraska tomorrow, so my posts may be sporadic.
Consider this your last warning. Answer my questions or you're gone.
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I just finish reading everything, but I think I'm going to read again before I decided anything, because if I vote to lynch somebody, I wanna be sure of it
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LYNCH STATUS:
It takes 10 votes to lynch.
iamborednow [1]: xxomg_its_mayaxx
Wooden_Giraffe [1]: Harvady Alumnus
vorlianis [4]: Elisabeth Heart, Shuhan1288, Huschel, Chucklepants Fallupface
Shuhan1288 [4]: kmohyudin, Holygamer999, metteminne, vorlianis
Not Voting [9]: Gazzgirl, iamborednow, Kinalara, Merle, Sky, SomebodyUDon’tKnow, Silent Klabautermann, Vepe, Wooden_Giraffe -
@Chucklepants:
Consider this your last warning. Answer my questions or you're gone.
What were they again?
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@Harvady:
Kina. I get that nobody likes to read my posts, but the problem with doing that is that you contradict me completely. I gave the information that led to my vote. The fact that no one has read it nor commented on it, is another beast entirely. Regardless of how much I apparently like hearing myself speak, I explained what I had going. I got my information from the moderator and it contradicted what he said. Thus, there must be a lie. Whether its accidental or intentional, people who try to get away with lying are obviously mafia. Our exchange didn't solidify my suspicion, so I didn't continue to push his wagon.
So you got information that was different from something i suggested as a possibility? Well then why didn't you just say that to begin with. The reason no one read or commented on your post was probably because you never give straight answers and its rather difficult to figure what exactly it is that your saying. Anyway, there is no such thing as an accidental lie, these are actually called mistakes.
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So basically if i understand this you are all basing this completely on that everyone has a gun…. wich has been contradicted by Nectar since Mastellos role says otherwise except if Nectar left out the gun info.You confirmed that we have a limited number of bullets, not saying Huschel didn't implicate it but there still was room for doubt.
And still you are talking about the fishing for characters, it wasn't so much about the characters more about getting people to talk since this felt like a graveyard… and not a mafia one.
Huschel what exactly didn't you like about my response to the accusation?
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Unvote
Vote Lynch: Shuhan1288This is based on your overreaction to my dialogue and general antagonistic nature towards someone who has been campaigning for town.
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Well the angry, frustrated side of me wants to do this
Vote Lynch: Harvardy Alumnus
but then the logical side of me wants this
Unvote Lynch
Vote Lynch: Holygamer999 but I want there to be a lynch today, and I don't see it being him.Unvote Lynch So we'll just go with this.
Vote Lynch: Vorlianis Oh how badly I wish to answer some of the questions posed to Shuhan. But alas, Shuhan is not my name.
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Does anybody here actually know how to read?
I have said, from day 1, that I am operating under the idea that everyone has a gun. I don't consider that as I myself a vig. Harvady brought up the point that if you have a gun, but have a different ability, then you are a modified vig. That is possible, however, my ability is completely separate from my gun. It seemed like the fact that I had a gun was just tacked on. My ability name mentions nothing like vig in it, that is why I do not consider myself a vig.
Hypothetical question here about Epic Mafia, there is a townie known as a gunsmith that makes guns. That gunsmith can give any player they want a gun, does that warrant the recipient as a vig? To me no..
That is why not only did I say that I had a gun, but on the same page I said I wasn't a vig, because I did not consider the gun part of my actual ability.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but most, if not all of us, have a gun… That much is obvious...
Clear enough now?
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@Harvady:
Unvote
Vote Lynch: Shuhan1288This is based on your overreaction to my dialogue and general antagonistic nature towards someone who has been campaigning for town.
So basicly your sore at me… great reason
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And by that you choose to ignore that there wasn't a mention of a gun in Mastellos role?
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You can tell tonight is going to be delicious!
LYNCH STATUS:
It takes 10 votes to lynch.
Iamborednow [1]: xxomg_its_mayaxx
Holygamer999 [1]: Chucklepants Fallupface
vorlianis [4]: Shuhan1288, Huschel, Elisabeth Heart, Wooden_Giraffe
Shuhan1288 [5]: vorlianis, metteminne, Holygamer999, kmohyudin, Harvady Alumnus
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And by that you choose to ignore that there wasn't a mention of a gun in Mastellos role?
And by that you choose to ignore that he said his ability is independent of the gun?
Say Shuhan does die tonight. I seriously doubt it will mention a gun.
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@Chucklepants:
And by that you choose to ignore that he said his ability is independent of the gun?
Say Shuhan does die tonight. I seriously doubt it will mention a gun.
If someone who has admitted to having a gun dies and it is missing from the role then yes i will admit i was wrong.
No i am not ignoring that his ability is independant from the gun, i don't see a reason to comment on it and i don't see why we would need to find out each others abilities.
Your a leech Nectar
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If someone who has admitted to having a gun dies and it is missing from the role then yes i will admit i was wrong.
No i am not ignoring that his ability is independant from the gun, i don't see a reason to comment on it and i don't see why we would need to find out each others abilities.
Your a leech Nectar
It is common to claim one's power on the eve of the lynch. Assuming the one claiming is the one being lynched.
@Shuhan1288:
Does anybody here actually know how to read?
I have said, from day 1, that I am operating under the idea that everyone has a gun. I don't consider that as I myself a vig. Harvady brought up the point that if you have a gun, but have a different ability, then you are a modified vig. That is possible, however, my ability is completely separate from my gun. It seemed like the fact that I had a gun was just tacked on. My ability name mentions nothing like vig in it, that is why I do not consider myself a vig.
Hypothetical question here about Epic Mafia, there is a townie known as a gunsmith that makes guns. That gunsmith can give any player they want a gun, does that warrant the recipient as a vig? To me no..
That is why not only did I say that I had a gun, but on the same page I said I wasn't a vig, because I did not consider the gun part of my actual ability.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but most, if not all of us, have a gun… That much is obvious...
Clear enough now?
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So basicly your sore at me... great reason
Being snide is just an excuse to discredit other players. I have never said anything that I didn't think was objective. If I'm 'lecturing', it's because I'm trying to convince people of a theory. If you don't accept it, fine. Just don't refer to my efforts to help other players as 'complaining'.
If I was going off my 'gut' feeling, I'd say you were town. If I go off of what I know to be 'dangerous play', then you are worthy of being voted. You can never be 100% sure about a person's alignment unless it's given to you by the moderator via role PM, so I am trying to contribute to the village by being active with my vote.
The fact is, we have so many other players in this game who've spoken significantly less than you and me. I'd like to hear from them, but if it's not going to happen, then I need to work with what I have.
If anyone wants to actively discuss a player who has not been contributing, then by all means. This isn't about easy targets. Everyone needs to be scrutinized at some point.
As a side note in regards to titles, I don't use them if I don't have to (when moderating). Rather than saying "You are a Doctor." I'll say "You have the power to protect." The fact that Nectar uses role names is somewhat intriguing. It causes people to make assumptions.
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I understand where you are coming from now… And I don't fault you. However, keep your vote on me and lose hope of getting a mafia today. I may play a dangerous game, but that is how I play, overly-complex plots and what not. It doesn't translate well on the forum and makes me very suspicious, but it causes a lot of conversation to happen...people who don't usually talk a lot begin to gang up on me and gives ample time for the scum to slip, which I believe Vorlianis has. He jumped onto my bandwagon fairly quickly, has caused confusion with his talks to Nectar, and generally, he hasn't been useful to conversation save for trying to nail me...
But do what you want, it is your choice...
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I been trying to decided who is really more suspicious Shuhan or Vorlianis, since both of them have said something that make me suspicious of them, but not enough for me to vote lynch one….
Right now I don't think me voting for one of them is gonna help, since the votes are split and I don't see anybody changing their votes right now.
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I been trying to decided who is really more suspicious Shuhan or Vorlianis, since both of them have said something that make me suspicious of them, but not enough for me to vote lynch one….
Right now I don't think me voting for one of them is gonna help, since the votes are split and I don't see anybody changing their votes right now.
For now they are on my list of suspectsBasically, Merle, if you aren't willing to put your vote down, you won't ever find out who is capable of changing their vote. Leave the villagers to do what they think is best. Ultimately, that includes trusting in another player's wagon enough to keep things moving. For people who don't vote are mafia. Fact.
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This sucks. I woke up early to see the day end because I wanted to be able to adapt my vote if necessary. And now there is probably not going to be a lynch at all…
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Keeping it moving, I guess.
**Unvote lynch
Vote Lynch: vorlianis** I'm almost certain Shuhan's town, but I can't really explain why. Gut feeling I guess. And my Holy wagon's going nowhere, so meh, let's get this over with.