we could
seing nectar was one of them
and kmo aswell i think
One Piece Mafia
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Well, Harvy was one of the players saying we should ignore Bogart since he's not present in the game and focus on other players.
And we should also check who didn't find Nectar suspicious, of course. Or who didn't exactly want Nectar to be investigated.
Question: Are we sure all the dead baddies are from the mafia team? Does any of them look like a bad 3rd party?
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Question: Are we sure all the dead baddies are from the mafia team? Does any of them look like a bad 3rd party?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Their abilities don't look like third party ones and besides, wouldn't they be depicted as being neutral in that case?
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Also, Nectar's refusal to go after Bogart when he's normal the first one to lynch the lurkers was one of the things that made me suspect him in the first place.
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True, none of them looks like a 3rd common party.
I'm not that sure all 3rd party look neutral. In the games I've played, only the survivor and sometimes the Jester looked neutral, the serial killer looked bad while lynched/killed (in normal investigation he'll look innocent while the other neutral parties would look non-town)…BUT, I never played Epic Mafia so I have no idea about the rules there. -
Ah, I mean not sided with the mafia or with the town. That kind of neutral.
Serial killer would still be neutral in that case. -
Wow, lots of stuff has happened in my absence. I'm still typing my report on Necter, though i hope to get it in soon. Also, I'm starting to get an idea of who ls looking more innocent and who's not. I'll tell you once I go over everything.
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Good thing mette turned out townie, I can't be mean to him with his new avatar.
Mastello? I suppose Mafia didn't want to risk targeting the protected MVP.
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Mind elaborating on that, little missus?
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@Mrs.:
Good thing mette turned out townie, I can't be mean to him with his new avatar.
Mastello? I suppose Mafia didn't want to risk targeting the protected MVP.
My top suspects right now are Wooden and Kinalara.Mind elaborating on that, little missus?
Seconded, kinalara i get, but it seems like you just pulled me out of a hat.
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Mind elaborating on that, little missus?
Seconded, kinalara i get, but it seems like you just pulled me out of a hat.
I'll overlook that condescending tone, Kina. As for my reasons, you two (mostly Kinalara) are the only people who so far haven't done much townie things in my eyes. When I look at the list of people who are left, you two are almost the only ones I don't think are townie.
I know this is not much, and I will reread your earlier posts to find more substantial arguments, but I just wanted to say this ahead to see if the others thought the same. -
My comment was meant to be lighthearted- sorry.
Either way I guess it can't be helped. I haven't done much this game in the helpful wagon so that makes me evil? Whoops. Guess I should start being more competant. Too bad I can't turn it on and off. As you already saw, the best thing I have done this whole game was on accident.
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Awww, why Masty?
Wasn't he like…harmless to the mafia due to the nullification?Almost forgot to say, but did that nullification even go through? I only remember my nullification actually going through, not Mastello's.
Either way I guess it can't be helped. I haven't done much this game in the helpful wagon so that makes me evil? Whoops. Guess I should start being more competant. Too bad I can't turn it on and off. As you already saw, the best thing I have done this whole game was on accident.
Well, if we're still in doubt at the end of the day there's always the mvp investigation left…
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@Silent:
Well, if we're still in doubt at the end of the day there's always the mvp investigation left…
Then who will we lynch? I'd really rather not have a no-lynch today, we only have 2 scums left to go and if we give them another night, they might get desperate. We still don't know what the chaos might do either.
And is there anyone else to be suspected?
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I meant in the sense of investigating whoever doesn't get lynched. A no-lynch is not a thing I'd want at this point in the game.
Sorry, should have been clear about that.Do you have some good idea's on who to lynch?
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I suppose I might as well give my list real quick- it'll help me gather my thoughts:
I'm pretty Ok about:
Mrs. Iceburg: Unless my memory fails, she was after Nectar for awhile. I also don't get too scummy of a read off her.
Holygamer: Though some things about him make me shaky- like his tendency to flip flop and such, it just seems like newbie syndrome to me. Was also chasing Vor's tail for awhile.
SUDK: Proven
Mette: Proven
Malice: Bagged Vora
SK: Bagged NectarI'm not Ok about:
Harvady: Went after several townies like Mette and Mast. Didn't vote Vora. Said he would, then conveniently disappeared. Didn't vote Nectar. Currently my biggest suspect- I'll be looking into this more.
Sky: ….Does she still exist? Hasn't been mod-killed, yet I don't remember her talking in the past two days. First we couldn't get her to STOP talking- now there's silence? Also fishy that it should be around the time we start popping mafs. Though looing back I see SK spotted her lurking. Why so quiet?No real call on:
Wooden Giraffe: Meh.
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Also- about the vote thing in my blurb against Harv. Normally, not voting on a maf isn't exactly the best way to tell scum– but come on. Two- in a row.
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I'm here. I've been sick for the las few days so I'll be back to post something once I take my medicine and cool down so I can think straight.
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Also- about the vote thing in my blurb against Harv. Normally, not voting on a maf isn't exactly the best way to tell scum– but come on. Two- in a row.
Actually, you're wrong there. He did vote on Nectar.
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Ah, alright- I must have missed that. Okay, so I was wrong about that, but the rest still stands.
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Sigh. Your list makes sense, Kina, and it works in your favour that Nectar tried to lynch you before we did mette. But still..
Also true that Sky hasn't said anything lately, but would she just suddenly stop talking if she were Mafia? Also she was pretty enthusiastic in the beginning of the game.
About Harvady.. he's always counted as one of the fishy people, but I've never really been suspicious of him. Nectar was after him at the beginning of the game, some others aswell.. who were they, anyone remember? -
Correct me if I'm wrong, but kmo and I think mette and I were, I think, though those were pressure votes and I can't remember who else was after him. I do remember we were pretty desperate to not end the day on a no-lynch…
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I can't help but default to the frame of mind that she's just busy- but she was lurking earlier.
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@Silent:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but kmo and I think mette and I were, I think, though those were pressure votes and I can't remember who else was after him. I do remember we were pretty desperate to not end the day on a no-lynch…
Actually i think that mette was going after trapped that day. I do know that kmo was, as was myself and i believe he had 7 votes in total. but trust me, if i was mafia, sticking with nectar would be the last thing i do.
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i was after harvady before i went for trapped i think
i even i think i was the first or second one who voted for him
and that he voted for nectar when everybody was voting for him does absolutly not make him less supsios
and if sky was lurking and said nothing again we lynch her , quiet people dont help and are often mafia+ she has been quiet after trapped (i think?) accused her of asking to many questions
VOTE LYNCH :SKY
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I've been reading things through and it seems Nectar was constantly going after Harvady… and besides, I think he did the thing that everyone would do when in danger of getting lynched, mette.
It doesn't really say anything about whether he's suspicious or not.About Sky, she said she was really busy a while back, but still, I saw her lurking around here for a good 5-10 minutes while I was waiting for vorlianis to reply and it's kind of strange she didn't at least say something while she was here.
Personally, I think lurkers like Sky are only in the way right now. It's one admittedly understandable thing if she missed both days because they were so short, but that's clearly not the case.
Look at Bogart, he was a lurker and a mafia and it was by luck that we got rid of him so fast.I don't really want to risk lurkers to fall under the radar again. I think I'll wait a bit though, I'd like to hear what other people have to say about this first.
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Well- damn. There goes another section of my suspicion of Harv. e.o
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well my vote will stand for now
two days wthout saying anything , yet still alive and the bogart case isnt helping her in my case
she could do like haba did , say something like : i will read it all soon but she seems to not say anything
also haba i want to hear some of your thoughts about everything
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Updated list:
Dead
- Chucklepants Fallupface
- Shuhan
- Heart
- Trapped
- Kmohyudin
- Mastello
- Necter :devil:
- Bogart :devil:
- Vorlianis :devil:
Non-suspects
- Mrs. Iceberg
- Holygamer
- Malice
- SUDK
- Mette
Nutral/Unknown
- Wooden
- Sky
- Mr. Habaneroo
- Harvady
- Kinalara
I didn't feel that there was enough evidence to label someone as a suspect (yet).
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Its Day 8
Voting Nothing (11) - Harvady Alumnus, HolyGamer, Kinalara, Malice, Mr Habaneroo, Mrs Iceburg, Silent Klaubautermann, Sky, SomebodyUDon'tKnow, Wooden Giraffe
Sky (1) - Mettemine
11 Alive, Majority is 6
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Nectar:
I didn't like that at all. If you want to test the effects of revealing, give your character name only.
Probably not a good idea to do this
I am too! This could be perfect. If a "cleared" player is still lynched and turns out to be Mafia. The MVP that cleared him is dead too! Remember, we could have cops and watchers to double check. Pick someone to investigate!
This either
- I think one of the mafias has a copycat ability, that’s why the town should keep quiet about their roles or characters (the towns ability being mostly limited while theirs isn’t). We don’t want for the mafia to get another killing ability (if there’s a vigilante around), no?
That's a good theory! It could be activated by learning the name of your character.
He seems to want to learn peoples names badly.
Cop(s) should ONLY claim if they have a guilty! We could have a Godfather in the Mafia (Godfather is a Mafia player who will look innocent if investigated).
Does this mean there isn't one?
You should intentionally make it sound like we have multiple doctors. For all we know EVERYONE can be a doctor. We should be scaring the crap out of the Mafia.
Speaking of which, wouldn't it be funny if Midnight gave me a role I really wanted? Guess I'll be killed for saying that, unless I wanted the Mafia to visit me. Hmmm, I wonder which is true?
Why would he say this?
I'm also assuming that means we have another roleblocker (one Mafia/one Townie) sense Shuhan was blocked too
Yeah, you ya jack ass.
Agree with there not being a Lawyer and GF. A Lawyer would screw up my Vote Spy plan.
So we can assume the vote spy plane was a front?
Also, I noticed that he made some suspicious posts about the jailer earlier on.
To summarize what I gathered from reading:
1. Mafia want to know our names, so it's probably not a good idea to tell them.
2. Based on Necters past posts and the lack of evidence to suggest otherwise, its seeming less and less likely that there is a godfather (though I could of missed something and be completely wrong, so don't take into this right off the bat).
3. As Necter was adamantly going after him throughout the entire game, I don't believe that Harvady is mob. The same could be said of kina, but im less sure on that.
4. He made a lot of posts about the Jailer a while back and something struck me as suspicious. I can't put my finger on it though, so if you guys could go back and tell me what you can about his jailer posts, that would be great.
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To summarize what I gathered from reading:
1. Mafia want to know our names, so it's probably not a good idea to tell them.
2. Based on Necters past posts and the lack of evidence to suggest otherwise, its seeming less and less likely that there is a godfather (though I could of missed something and be completely wrong, so don't take into this right off the bat).
3. As Necter was adamantly going after him throughout the entire game, I don't believe that Harvady is mob. The same could be said of kina, but im less sure on that.
4. He made a lot of posts about the Jailer a while back and something struck me as suspicious. I can't put my finger on it though, so if you guys could go back and tell me what you can about his jailer posts, that would be great.
1. Très new information
2. Don't know about that, we thought mette was but then he turned out town. Still, why couldn't we lynch him? Was this because of the chaos thing?
3. I agree. Though it really seemed like Nectar was planning on getting Kina lynched, he was actually building a case against her so it didn't really seem like he was trying to cover up.
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1. Très new information
2. Don't know about that, we thought mette was but then he turned out town. Still, why couldn't we lynch him? Was this because of the chaos thing?
3. I agree. Though it really seemed like Nectar was planning on getting Kina lynched, he was actually building a case against her so it didn't really seem like he was trying to cover up.
4. So you're saying something was suspicious about his Jailer posts? What are you trying to imply, that there isn't a Jailer? Both mette and Kina have said to be jailed.Thanks for your imput. No I'm not saying there isn't a jailor. It's just that there's something in the back of my mind nagging me about Necters jailer posts, but I can't put my finger on it.
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Thanks for your imput. No I'm not saying there isn't a jailor. It's just that there's something in the back of my mind nagging me about Necters jailer posts, but I can't put my finger on it.
Still a little vague there mate. You mean like, something Nectar was trying to hide?
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@Mrs.:
Still a little vague there mate. You mean like, something Nectar was trying to hide?
Like I keep saying, there's something there but I havent figured out what yet. I just don't know right now. But I know there's something, and I was just asking for help figuring out what it could be. If I brought all of Necters jailer posts together, maybe that would help. Would you guys help me out then?
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Like I keep saying, there's something there but I havent figured out what yet. I just don't know right now. But I know there's something, and I was just asking for help figuring out what it could be. If I brought all of Necters jailer posts together, maybe that would help. Would you guys help me out then?
Well you do need to remember that nectar wasn't the only mafia we uncovered. I believe vor mentioned being jailed, so his posts might grant us some insight into the issue. Also, if your going to look for nectar posts to try and learn something, don't use any of the ones after he confessed. As i said before (well, in different words anyway) that was him simply try to mess with our minds.
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These are all Nectar's Jailer-related posts he made when we tried to lynch mette. He was after Kinalara at the time, but later switched to mette too.
When I say "investigate" I mean he interrogated you. He tried to find out whether or not you're Townie and decided to you were not. The chaos probably kept him from killing you.
**I got problems with Mette too, but if the TOWNIE JAILER suspects Kinalara enough to try to kill her, I want her dead!
The chaos was unleashed after Kinalara was jailed but before the Jailer decided to kill.**
They must use quicktopics like with the Graveyard or Mafia.
Never will understand the value in posting lists. Just gives the Mafia an excuse to jump on a bandwagon by agreeing. Let's not think for ourselves so we can blame Holy if he's wrong.
Trapped was suspicious of Kinalara before dying and the Jailer wanted her dead! Two confirmed Townies don't trust her!!!!
It's called scumhunting! Pretending to not be Townie to gain the Mafia's trust. A Jailer being a Third-Party? Seriously?!!!!!!!!!
When Kinalara came back from Lurkertown to Lynch Vote Trapped she didn't post anything else! Pure bandwagon.
Jailer being 3rd Party? How? What's his win condition? To jail a Mafia and live to tell about it? Think about it! What's the best way to trap a non-Townie? Answer: Pretending to not be one yourself!!!!!!
**A Jailer being 3rd is like a Cop being Mafia! It doesn't make sense!
Way to not think for yourself, Mastello. This is why a Mafia hasn't died yet!
You're right, but once again, think about it. The Jailer hasn't killed ANYONE yet! That's right. If he did then we would know because there would've been a second death and that death would NOT be hidden. This isn't some Kill-At-The-Drop-Of-A-Hat Jailer. He decided THIS time to kill someone, that has to count for something!
I'll give you that, BUT SUDK is very scummish, even if he's Townie to the point that I want him dead just to keep him from trolling us. And, please don't get super defensive. I DON'T know everything, I just trust the Jailer over you!
Did you answer any of his questions? You must have did something to want him to kill you. He also could have thought you were stalling, which you could have been.
Not at all. Once again, it's comes down to trust. Jailer VS Kinalara, you lose.
I have two top suspects, Mette and Kinalara. Hmmm… Mette tried to out the Jailerl but Kinalara did. Mette also tried to use SUDK as an excuse for surviving the Night before last, but Kinalara said the Jailer tried to kill her.
Unvote: Kinalara
Vote Lynch: MetteminneI'm more suspicious of Mette. Why? Because even though Kinalara outed the Jailer, Mette was VERY vague about it like he was trying to get the Jailer to out himself and nullify (a killer Jailer is VERY dangerous to non-Townies). He also seems to be going with the flow when it comes to lynching (see Heart Incident). Kmo thought you were a Godfather, lets find out!
He confidently talked a lot about it, like he wasn't even scared of the Jailer. Maybe the Jailer was Mafia or 3d Party after all? But that doesn't make sense. Or maybe there is no Jailer? But both mette and Kina told us they have been jailed, and mette is cleared, so…
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no i was jailed
still dont get why i wasnt killed
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Hey Mette- just curious, I may have missed when you said this- but in his last post, did the jailer type Kill?
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he did type kill , but we talked a bit after that about what he was going to do
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So you managed to talk to him after he made that decision? I'm not sure how a jailer's kills work, but maybe he changed his mind? As for mine- I honestly think my death was stopped by the chaos. His very last post was the kill post, so I didn't get a chance to say anything after that.
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well i aksed him if the kill could be stopped by him and he/she said no so
and he killed me pretty quickly so we had time to talk
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Ah…well that's very confusing. e.o
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Now this may mean nothing- but something that SGR said in his pm to me irks me- he said at the END of the session, the jailer could choose to kill me.
Maybe that implies that he was more supposed to send in his kill or let live descision to SGR and, in the case of you at least, he decided you were good from your discussion afterwards?
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I got problems with Mette too, but if the TOWNIE JAILER suspects Kinalara enough to try to kill her, I want her dead!
Right here! It almost sounds like he's saying Mette is the jailer, but if that were true, then mette would be lying, so it probably was him just screwing with us. Ill keep looking.
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It does? I don't see him sounding like he's saying anything like that about mette.
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a weird thing i dont get i vor protecting me
maybe he thought that they would lynch me before me , see that i am townie and that that would clear him?
and nectar never said i was jailer
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You misinterpreted, Holy. He wasn't calling mette the jailer- the "TOWNIE JAILER suspects…" was part of another statement entirely against me.
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I know, I stated it was probably just nectar screwing with us in my post.
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oh and it seems kinalara was really jailed to me
